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Date: 17 Dec 2008 23:26:12
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: 2009 ATP Point Scores are really dumb!
If you are one of the top 8 seeds and win a Masters level event by
winning 5 best of 3 set matches, you get 1000 points.

If you win 5 best of 5 set matches in a slam and then lose the 6th
match, you get 720 points.

How dumb is that?

The 2008 system scored them at 500 and 450 points.

On the plus side:

Winning events is going to count a lot more in 2009. A Nadal 2008 like
year will be a very clearcut #1. A Federeresque 3 slam and 11 or 12
title year will be off planet!

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Cheers,

vc




 
Date: 18 Dec 2008 10:32:33
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: 2009 ATP Point Scores are really dumb!
Vari L. Cinicke wrote:
> If you are one of the top 8 seeds and win a Masters level event by
> winning 5 best of 3 set matches, you get 1000 points.
>
> If you win 5 best of 5 set matches in a slam and then lose the 6th
> match, you get 720 points.
>
>
> How dumb is that?

The standard of player you beat in the MS will be higher than in the slam. You
also win a title. Against that is the higher prestige of the slam. All things
considered, yes it's dumb. If they increase the points at slams (or decrease
them at MS) at every round they will fix this and the likelihood of a non-slam
winner getting to #1 - an embarrassing occurrence for the ATP and WTA - will be
less.




  
Date: 17 Dec 2008 23:55:46
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: 2009 ATP Point Scores are really dumb!
DavidW wrote:
> Vari L. Cinicke wrote:
>> If you are one of the top 8 seeds and win a Masters level event by
>> winning 5 best of 3 set matches, you get 1000 points.
>>
>> If you win 5 best of 5 set matches in a slam and then lose the 6th
>> match, you get 720 points.
>>
>>
>> How dumb is that?
>
> The standard of player you beat in the MS will be higher than in the slam. You
> also win a title. Against that is the higher prestige of the slam. All things
> considered, yes it's dumb. If they increase the points at slams (or decrease
> them at MS) at every round they will fix this and the likelihood of a non-slam
> winner getting to #1 - an embarrassing occurrence for the ATP and WTA - will be
> less.
>
>

Well, the ATP hasn't had that issue much, if at all, and the past 5
years have been exemplary.

The WTA hasn't changed its point system, has it? It is even crazier with
3 separate tiers of Tier I, 2 tiers each of Tiers II and III, and just a
single tier of Tier IV.

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Cheers,

vc