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Date: 13 Feb 2009 17:28:33
From: Whisper
Subject: 7543 goats


Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.

There are some remarkable coincidences;



Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.

Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.

They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).

They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
No.1.

There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.

Both use single hands.












 
Date: 16 Feb 2009 15:16:27
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 9:50=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:07 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Feb 13, 6:25=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Feb 13, 1:19=A0pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
> >> >> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> >> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fello=
w tennis player, Sampras
> >> >> > married a Z-list actress.
>
> >> >> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>
> >> >Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted in
> >> >a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very goo=
d
> >> >actress. She can act like a psychopath though.
>
> >> bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
> >> disgusting.
>
> >I dont know whether she is a gold digger. She was probably as rich as
> >Sampras was. She was an actress after all. In fact Sampras should
> >thank his stars he ended with a hot chick like Bridgette. She also
> >seems like a good wife.
>
> She was a BAD actress and NOT rich at all. She was attractive and had
> a hole. That was good enough for Pete.

Geez Dave. Its bad enough to bad-mouth Pete, but why all this hatred
to his wife?

Rodjk #613


  
Date: 17 Feb 2009 01:33:03
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:16:27 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
<rjkardo@gmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 13, 9:50 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:07 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Feb 13, 6:25 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Feb 13, 1:19 pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>>
>> >> >> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > -                      Graf married a fellow tennis player, Sampras
>> >> >> > married a Z-list actress.
>>
>> >> >> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>>
>> >> >Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted in
>> >> >a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very good
>> >> >actress. She can act like a psychopath though.
>>
>> >> bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
>> >> disgusting.
>>
>> >I dont know whether she is a gold digger. She was probably as rich as
>> >Sampras was. She was an actress after all. In fact Sampras should
>> >thank his stars he ended with a hot chick like Bridgette. She also
>> >seems like a good wife.
>>
>> She was a BAD actress and NOT rich at all. She was attractive and had
>> a hole. That was good enough for Pete.
>
>Geez Dave. Its bad enough to bad-mouth Pete, but why all this hatred
>to his wife?
>
>Rodjk #613


truths.

1. she is generally acknowledged as being a bad actress.
2. she was not rich.

no hatred there. just facts.

if she was a merryl streep type do you think she would have even given
that monkey a second look ?


 
Date: 16 Feb 2009 15:15:32
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 16, 11:56=A0am, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 16, 11:50=A0am, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 14, 8:18=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 14, 7:10=A0am, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 13, 10:50=A0am, guyana <guyanper...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 13, 11:47=A0am, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
> > > > > <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > On Feb 13, 4:16 pm, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Feb 13, 12:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote=
:
>
> > > > > > > > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > > > > > > > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > > > > > > > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in th=
e finals.
>
> > > > > > > > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the =
finals.
>
> > > > > > > > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments)=
.
>
> > > > > > > > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & ove=
rall weeks at
> > > > > > > > No.1.
>
> > > > > > > > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > > > > > > > Both use single hands.
>
> > > > > > > Graf won 6 French Open, Sampras laid an egg there. Remarkable
> > > > > > > coincidence there ;-)
>
> > > > > > Here are several differences between them:
>
> > > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf won 6 FOs, Sa=
mpras 0.
>
> > > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf had a big nos=
e, Sampras had a hairy chest.
>
> > > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is obsessed o=
ver by a knife-wielding
> > > > > > maniac, Sampras is obsessed over by a bored Aussie with too muc=
h time
> > > > > > on his hands.
>
> > > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fel=
low tennis player, Sampras
> > > > > > married a Z-list actress.
>
> > > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is of no inte=
rest to Whisper sexually,
> > > > > > Sampras is.
>
> > > > > that is funny! Sampras is a great player in spite of whisper's
> > > > > petefucking!
>
> > > > Yeah, Whispers nonsense has done a lot of harm (in RST) to Pete's
> > > > legacy.
>
> > > > Rodjk #613- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Well, I think what happens is that Whisper's refusal to acknowledge
> > > Sampras' weaknesses (couldn't be
> > > arsed at the French because it was too close to Wimby, and other tall
> > > tales) prompt the Fed fans to dig through his record and find a few
> > > losses (Yzaga, Hewitt, etc.) that are fairly insignificant in the
> > > grand scheme of things.
>
> > Its the bad logic thing.
> > If you say 'player x cannot be GOAT because he has not won the French'
> > and yet you support player Y for GOAT...you should be certain that
> > player Y won the French. Its really pretty simple.
>
> > If you complain about Player X losing badly in a tournament, you need
> > to be prepared for similar statements about player Y.
>
> > I think Sampras is GOAT.
>
> Just because you have the most slams, you do not become GOAT. Sampras
> was less dominating than every champion in Open era who won 7 slams
> (except Newcombe, Wilander and Agassi). Yes, Rosewall/Laver/Connors/
> Borg/McEnroe/Lendl/Federer were all more dominating than him.
>
> >Federer is very close to taking that mantle.
> > He is not there yet, but he could well do so, in my mind.
>
> > But to make the numerous stupid claims against Fed is just silliness.
> > I hate that people here get caught up in the nonsense because it makes
> > Pete look bad. It happens, because it is so easy to turn around the
> > negative things Whisper says about Federer and use them against Pete.
>
> > Rodjk #613

There are a lot of different opinions. Thats fine.
Most of them are personal, resulting from preferences.

I was a big Borg, Wilander and Lendl fan. Became a Becker fan later.
Pete was a favorite to, his behavior and 'big game' were great to
watch, except at Wimbledon.

Now, I like Fed, Nadal and Andreev. I kind of hope Mecir's son
improves his ranking and we get to see him play.

Like I said, I see Pete as GOAT. Not just the slams, but 6 straight
years as #1 means he was dominating something.

Rodjk #613



 
Date: 16 Feb 2009 09:56:46
From: Raja
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 16, 11:50=A0am, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 14, 8:18=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 14, 7:10=A0am, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 13, 10:50=A0am, guyana <guyanper...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 13, 11:47=A0am, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
> > > > <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > On Feb 13, 4:16 pm, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Feb 13, 12:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > > > > > > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > > > > > > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the =
finals.
>
> > > > > > > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the fi=
nals.
>
> > > > > > > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > > > > > > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overa=
ll weeks at
> > > > > > > No.1.
>
> > > > > > > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > > > > > > Both use single hands.
>
> > > > > > Graf won 6 French Open, Sampras laid an egg there. Remarkable
> > > > > > coincidence there ;-)
>
> > > > > Here are several differences between them:
>
> > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf won 6 FOs, Samp=
ras 0.
>
> > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf had a big nose,=
Sampras had a hairy chest.
>
> > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is obsessed ove=
r by a knife-wielding
> > > > > maniac, Sampras is obsessed over by a bored Aussie with too much =
time
> > > > > on his hands.
>
> > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fello=
w tennis player, Sampras
> > > > > married a Z-list actress.
>
> > > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is of no intere=
st to Whisper sexually,
> > > > > Sampras is.
>
> > > > that is funny! Sampras is a great player in spite of whisper's
> > > > petefucking!
>
> > > Yeah, Whispers nonsense has done a lot of harm (in RST) to Pete's
> > > legacy.
>
> > > Rodjk #613- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Well, I think what happens is that Whisper's refusal to acknowledge
> > Sampras' weaknesses (couldn't be
> > arsed at the French because it was too close to Wimby, and other tall
> > tales) prompt the Fed fans to dig through his record and find a few
> > losses (Yzaga, Hewitt, etc.) that are fairly insignificant in the
> > grand scheme of things.
>
> Its the bad logic thing.
> If you say 'player x cannot be GOAT because he has not won the French'
> and yet you support player Y for GOAT...you should be certain that
> player Y won the French. Its really pretty simple.
>
> If you complain about Player X losing badly in a tournament, you need
> to be prepared for similar statements about player Y.
>
> I think Sampras is GOAT.

Just because you have the most slams, you do not become GOAT. Sampras
was less dominating than every champion in Open era who won 7 slams
(except Newcombe, Wilander and Agassi). Yes, Rosewall/Laver/Connors/
Borg/McEnroe/Lendl/Federer were all more dominating than him.


>Federer is very close to taking that mantle.
> He is not there yet, but he could well do so, in my mind.
>
> But to make the numerous stupid claims against Fed is just silliness.
> I hate that people here get caught up in the nonsense because it makes
> Pete look bad. It happens, because it is so easy to turn around the
> negative things Whisper says about Federer and use them against Pete.
>
> Rodjk #613



 
Date: 16 Feb 2009 09:50:37
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 14, 8:18=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 14, 7:10=A0am, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 10:50=A0am, guyana <guyanper...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 13, 11:47=A0am, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
> > > <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 13, 4:16 pm, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 13, 12:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > > > > > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > > > > > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the fi=
nals.
>
> > > > > > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the fina=
ls.
>
> > > > > > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > > > > > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall=
weeks at
> > > > > > No.1.
>
> > > > > > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > > > > > Both use single hands.
>
> > > > > Graf won 6 French Open, Sampras laid an egg there. Remarkable
> > > > > coincidence there ;-)
>
> > > > Here are several differences between them:
>
> > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf won 6 FOs, Sampra=
s 0.
>
> > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf had a big nose, S=
ampras had a hairy chest.
>
> > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is obsessed over =
by a knife-wielding
> > > > maniac, Sampras is obsessed over by a bored Aussie with too much ti=
me
> > > > on his hands.
>
> > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fellow =
tennis player, Sampras
> > > > married a Z-list actress.
>
> > > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is of no interest=
to Whisper sexually,
> > > > Sampras is.
>
> > > that is funny! Sampras is a great player in spite of whisper's
> > > petefucking!
>
> > Yeah, Whispers nonsense has done a lot of harm (in RST) to Pete's
> > legacy.
>
> > Rodjk #613- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Well, I think what happens is that Whisper's refusal to acknowledge
> Sampras' weaknesses (couldn't be
> arsed at the French because it was too close to Wimby, and other tall
> tales) prompt the Fed fans to dig through his record and find a few
> losses (Yzaga, Hewitt, etc.) that are fairly insignificant in the
> grand scheme of things.

Its the bad logic thing.
If you say 'player x cannot be GOAT because he has not won the French'
and yet you support player Y for GOAT...you should be certain that
player Y won the French. Its really pretty simple.

If you complain about Player X losing badly in a tournament, you need
to be prepared for similar statements about player Y.

I think Sampras is GOAT. Federer is very close to taking that mantle.
He is not there yet, but he could well do so, in my mind.

But to make the numerous stupid claims against Fed is just silliness.
I hate that people here get caught up in the nonsense because it makes
Pete look bad. It happens, because it is so easy to turn around the
negative things Whisper says about Federer and use them against Pete.

Rodjk #613


 
Date: 14 Feb 2009 06:18:48
From:
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 14, 7:10=A0am, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 10:50=A0am, guyana <guyanper...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 11:47=A0am, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
> > <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On Feb 13, 4:16 pm, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 13, 12:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > > > > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > > > > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the fina=
ls.
>
> > > > > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals=
.
>
> > > > > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > > > > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall w=
eeks at
> > > > > No.1.
>
> > > > > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > > > > Both use single hands.
>
> > > > Graf won 6 French Open, Sampras laid an egg there. Remarkable
> > > > coincidence there ;-)
>
> > > Here are several differences between them:
>
> > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf won 6 FOs, Sampras =
0.
>
> > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf had a big nose, Sam=
pras had a hairy chest.
>
> > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is obsessed over by=
a knife-wielding
> > > maniac, Sampras is obsessed over by a bored Aussie with too much time
> > > on his hands.
>
> > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fellow te=
nnis player, Sampras
> > > married a Z-list actress.
>
> > > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is of no interest t=
o Whisper sexually,
> > > Sampras is.
>
> > that is funny! Sampras is a great player in spite of whisper's
> > petefucking!
>
> Yeah, Whispers nonsense has done a lot of harm (in RST) to Pete's
> legacy.
>
> Rodjk #613- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, I think what happens is that Whisper's refusal to acknowledge
Sampras' weaknesses (couldn't be
arsed at the French because it was too close to Wimby, and other tall
tales) prompt the Fed fans to dig through his record and find a few
losses (Yzaga, Hewitt, etc.) that are fairly insignificant in the
grand scheme of things.


 
Date: 14 Feb 2009 04:10:16
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 10:50=A0am, guyana <guyanper...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 11:47=A0am, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
>
>
> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 4:16 pm, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 13, 12:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > > > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > > > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals=
.
>
> > > > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> > > > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > > > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall wee=
ks at
> > > > No.1.
>
> > > > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > > > Both use single hands.
>
> > > Graf won 6 French Open, Sampras laid an egg there. Remarkable
> > > coincidence there ;-)
>
> > Here are several differences between them:
>
> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf won 6 FOs, Sampras 0.
>
> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf had a big nose, Sampr=
as had a hairy chest.
>
> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is obsessed over by a=
knife-wielding
> > maniac, Sampras is obsessed over by a bored Aussie with too much time
> > on his hands.
>
> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fellow tenn=
is player, Sampras
> > married a Z-list actress.
>
> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is of no interest to =
Whisper sexually,
> > Sampras is.
>
> that is funny! Sampras is a great player in spite of whisper's
> petefucking!

Yeah, Whispers nonsense has done a lot of harm (in RST) to Pete's
legacy.

Rodjk #613


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 20:38:03
From: kipps
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 10:00=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> wkhedr wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> >> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> >> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> >> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> >> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> >> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks =
at
> >> No.1.
>
> >> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> >> Both use single hands.
>
> > Any one that ignores Laver's achievement has no clue about tennis.
>
> Laver is not 7543 goat.

Who the fuck cares ?


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 18:19:07
From: Raja
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 6:25=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Feb 13, 1:19=A0pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
> >> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fellow t=
ennis player, Sampras
> >> > married a Z-list actress.
>
> >> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>
> >Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted in
> >a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very good
> >actress. She can act like a psychopath though.
>
> bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
> disgusting.

I dont know whether she is a gold digger. She was probably as rich as
Sampras was. She was an actress after all. In fact Sampras should
thank his stars he ended with a hot chick like Bridgette. She also
seems like a good wife.




  
Date: 14 Feb 2009 03:50:41
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:07 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepfloyes@gmail.com >
wrote:

>On Feb 13, 6:25 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Feb 13, 1:19 pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>>
>> >> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >> > -                      Graf married a fellow tennis player, Sampras
>> >> > married a Z-list actress.
>>
>> >> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>>
>> >Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted in
>> >a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very good
>> >actress. She can act like a psychopath though.
>>
>> bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
>> disgusting.
>
>I dont know whether she is a gold digger. She was probably as rich as
>Sampras was. She was an actress after all. In fact Sampras should
>thank his stars he ended with a hot chick like Bridgette. She also
>seems like a good wife.
>


She was a BAD actress and NOT rich at all. She was attractive and had
a hole. That was good enough for Pete.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23
From: Raja
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 1:19=A0pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fellow tenn=
is player, Sampras
> > married a Z-list actress.
>
> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.

Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted in
a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very good
actress. She can act like a psychopath though.



  
Date: 14 Feb 2009 00:25:30
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepfloyes@gmail.com >
wrote:

>On Feb 13, 1:19 pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>>
>> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > -                      Graf married a fellow tennis player, Sampras
>> > married a Z-list actress.
>>
>> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>
>Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted in
>a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very good
>actress. She can act like a psychopath though.


bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
disgusting.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 13:11:18
From: robin
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On 13 Feb, 20:58, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 8:47=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 1:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> > > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> > > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks=
at
> > > No.1.
>
> > > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > > Both use single hands.
>
> > Any one that ignores Laver's achievement has no clue about tennis.
>
> and no-one gives a shit about pre-open era

Despite being 30 at the start of the open era, Laver still managed the
only open era CYGS. The only gaps in Laver's record are due to factors
beyond his control - no HC slams in his era and pros being banned from
playing the majors for the bulk of his best years. The same cannot be
said of either Sampras or Federer.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 12:58:38
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 8:47=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 1:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks a=
t
> > No.1.
>
> > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > Both use single hands.
>
> Any one that ignores Laver's achievement has no clue about tennis.

and no-one gives a shit about pre-open era


  
Date: 14 Feb 2009 03:22:22
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: 7543 goats

"Professor X" <suebokaian@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:3a6b3529-11e0-4e72-859b-4fa8b8f82a85@j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 13, 8:47 pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
> > No.1.
>
> > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > Both use single hands.
>
> Any one that ignores Laver's achievement has no clue about tennis.

>and no-one gives a shit about pre-open era


The most dominant season in Open era belongs to Laver.




 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 12:56:17
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 8:47=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 1:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks a=
t
> > No.1.
>
> > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > Both use single hands.
>
> Any one that ignores Laver's achievement has no clue about tennis.

it's hard to take laver seriously b/c he is only 5ft tall.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 12:47:39
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 1:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
> No.1.
>
> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> Both use single hands.

Any one that ignores Laver's achievement has no clue about tennis.



  
Date: 14 Feb 2009 14:00:48
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
wkhedr wrote:
> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>
>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>
>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>
>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>
>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>
>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>> No.1.
>>
>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>
>> Both use single hands.
>
> Any one that ignores Laver's achievement has no clue about tennis.
>


Laver is not 7543 goat.



 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 11:19:32
From: robin
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
<thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
>
> - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fellow tennis=
player, Sampras
> married a Z-list actress.

Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.


  
Date: 17 Feb 2009 04:51:26
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 16, 9:30=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:25:09 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
>
>
>
> <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 16, 7:33=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:16:27 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
>
> >> <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Feb 13, 9:50=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:07 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com=
>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Feb 13, 6:25=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.=
com >
> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >On Feb 13, 1:19=A0pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
> >> >> >> >> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a=
fellow tennis player, Sampras
> >> >> >> >> > married a Z-list actress.
>
> >> >> >> >> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>
> >> >> >> >Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never ac=
ted in
> >> >> >> >a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a ve=
ry good
> >> >> >> >actress. She can act like a psychopath though.
>
> >> >> >> bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
> >> >> >> disgusting.
>
> >> >> >I dont know whether she is a gold digger. She was probably as rich=
as
> >> >> >Sampras was. She was an actress after all. In fact Sampras should
> >> >> >thank his stars he ended with a hot chick like Bridgette. She also
> >> >> >seems like a good wife.
>
> >> >> She was a BAD actress and NOT rich at all. She was attractive and h=
ad
> >> >> a hole. That was good enough for Pete.
>
> >> >Geez Dave. Its bad enough to bad-mouth Pete, but why all this hatred
> >> >to his wife?
>
> >> >Rodjk #613
>
> >> truths.
>
> >> 1. she is generally acknowledged as being =A0a bad actress.
> >> 2. she was not rich.
>
> >> no hatred there. just facts.
>
> >> if she was a merryl streep type do you think she would have even given
> >> that monkey a second look ?
>
> >Again, what does any of this have to do with tennis?
> >Dave, you were not always like this.
> >It is a shame when other people in here bad-mouth Mirka.
> >It is a shame when you do it to Bridget.
>
> >Pete and Roger, by all indications, get along well and have a lot of
> >respect for each other. So why talk bad about Pete and his family?
>
> >This whole RST mess is not Pete's fault...
>
> >Rodjk #613
>
> correct. it's whispers.
>
> i used to be a big sampras fan and supporter until whisper made me
> hate him.

Whisper is a troll. Why let him goad you into posting the hateful
things about Pete and his family? Cuss out Whisper if you want, but
why take it out on someone else and their family?

Rodjk #613


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 23:53:39
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:19:32 -0800 (PST), robin
<robinson.neil@gmail.com > wrote:

>On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
><thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> -                      Graf married a fellow tennis player, Sampras
>> married a Z-list actress.
>
>Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.


so was debbie does dallas.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 08:50:26
From: guyana
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 11:47=A0am, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
<thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 4:16 pm, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 12:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> > > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> > > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks=
at
> > > No.1.
>
> > > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > > Both use single hands.
>
> > Graf won 6 French Open, Sampras laid an egg there. Remarkable
> > coincidence there ;-)
>
> Here are several differences between them:
>
> - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf won 6 FOs, Sampras 0.
>
> - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf had a big nose, Sampras=
had a hairy chest.
>
> - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is obsessed over by a k=
nife-wielding
> maniac, Sampras is obsessed over by a bored Aussie with too much time
> on his hands.
>
> - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fellow tennis=
player, Sampras
> married a Z-list actress.
>
> - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf is of no interest to Wh=
isper sexually,
> Sampras is.

that is funny! Sampras is a great player in spite of whisper's
petefucking!


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 08:47:23
From: Silence, Fedfucker!
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 4:16 pm, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 13, 12:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> > There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> > Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> > Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> > They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> > They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
> > No.1.
>
> > There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> > Both use single hands.
>
> Graf won 6 French Open, Sampras laid an egg there. Remarkable
> coincidence there ;-)

Here are several differences between them:

- Graf won 6 FOs, Sampras 0.

- Graf had a big nose, Sampras had a hairy chest.

- Graf is obsessed over by a knife-wielding
maniac, Sampras is obsessed over by a bored Aussie with too much time
on his hands.

- Graf married a fellow tennis player, Sampras
married a Z-list actress.

- Graf is of no interest to Whisper sexually,
Sampras is.


  
Date: 16 Feb 2009 19:25:09
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 16, 7:33=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:16:27 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
>
>
>
> <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 13, 9:50=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:07 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Feb 13, 6:25=A0pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com=
>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Feb 13, 1:19=A0pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>
> >> >> >> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > - =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Graf married a fe=
llow tennis player, Sampras
> >> >> >> > married a Z-list actress.
>
> >> >> >> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>
> >> >> >Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted=
in
> >> >> >a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very =
good
> >> >> >actress. She can act like a psychopath though.
>
> >> >> bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
> >> >> disgusting.
>
> >> >I dont know whether she is a gold digger. She was probably as rich as
> >> >Sampras was. She was an actress after all. In fact Sampras should
> >> >thank his stars he ended with a hot chick like Bridgette. She also
> >> >seems like a good wife.
>
> >> She was a BAD actress and NOT rich at all. She was attractive and had
> >> a hole. That was good enough for Pete.
>
> >Geez Dave. Its bad enough to bad-mouth Pete, but why all this hatred
> >to his wife?
>
> >Rodjk #613
>
> truths.
>
> 1. she is generally acknowledged as being =A0a bad actress.
> 2. she was not rich.
>
> no hatred there. just facts.
>
> if she was a merryl streep type do you think she would have even given
> that monkey a second look ?

Again, what does any of this have to do with tennis?
Dave, you were not always like this.
It is a shame when other people in here bad-mouth Mirka.
It is a shame when you do it to Bridget.

Pete and Roger, by all indications, get along well and have a lot of
respect for each other. So why talk bad about Pete and his family?

This whole RST mess is not Pete's fault...

Rodjk #613


   
Date: 17 Feb 2009 03:30:55
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:25:09 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
<rjkardo@gmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 16, 7:33 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:16:27 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
>>
>>
>>
>> <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 13, 9:50 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:07 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Feb 13, 6:25 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >On Feb 13, 1:19 pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>>
>> >> >> >> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > -                      Graf married a fellow tennis player, Sampras
>> >> >> >> > married a Z-list actress.
>>
>> >> >> >> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>>
>> >> >> >Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted in
>> >> >> >a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very good
>> >> >> >actress. She can act like a psychopath though.
>>
>> >> >> bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
>> >> >> disgusting.
>>
>> >> >I dont know whether she is a gold digger. She was probably as rich as
>> >> >Sampras was. She was an actress after all. In fact Sampras should
>> >> >thank his stars he ended with a hot chick like Bridgette. She also
>> >> >seems like a good wife.
>>
>> >> She was a BAD actress and NOT rich at all. She was attractive and had
>> >> a hole. That was good enough for Pete.
>>
>> >Geez Dave. Its bad enough to bad-mouth Pete, but why all this hatred
>> >to his wife?
>>
>> >Rodjk #613
>>
>> truths.
>>
>> 1. she is generally acknowledged as being  a bad actress.
>> 2. she was not rich.
>>
>> no hatred there. just facts.
>>
>> if she was a merryl streep type do you think she would have even given
>> that monkey a second look ?
>
>Again, what does any of this have to do with tennis?
>Dave, you were not always like this.
>It is a shame when other people in here bad-mouth Mirka.
>It is a shame when you do it to Bridget.
>
>Pete and Roger, by all indications, get along well and have a lot of
>respect for each other. So why talk bad about Pete and his family?
>
>This whole RST mess is not Pete's fault...
>
>Rodjk #613


correct. it's whispers.

i used to be a big sampras fan and supporter until whisper made me
hate him.


    
Date: 17 Feb 2009 22:49:05
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
Superdave wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:25:09 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
> <rjkardo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 16, 7:33 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:16:27 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 13, 9:50 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:07 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 13, 6:25 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 1:19 pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>>>>>>>>> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> - Graf married a fellow tennis player, Sampras
>>>>>>>>>> married a Z-list actress.
>>>>>>>>> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>>>>>>>> Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted in
>>>>>>>> a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very good
>>>>>>>> actress. She can act like a psychopath though.
>>>>>>> bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
>>>>>>> disgusting.
>>>>>> I dont know whether she is a gold digger. She was probably as rich as
>>>>>> Sampras was. She was an actress after all. In fact Sampras should
>>>>>> thank his stars he ended with a hot chick like Bridgette. She also
>>>>>> seems like a good wife.
>>>>> She was a BAD actress and NOT rich at all. She was attractive and had
>>>>> a hole. That was good enough for Pete.
>>>> Geez Dave. Its bad enough to bad-mouth Pete, but why all this hatred
>>>> to his wife?
>>>> Rodjk #613
>>> truths.
>>>
>>> 1. she is generally acknowledged as being a bad actress.
>>> 2. she was not rich.
>>>
>>> no hatred there. just facts.
>>>
>>> if she was a merryl streep type do you think she would have even given
>>> that monkey a second look ?
>> Again, what does any of this have to do with tennis?
>> Dave, you were not always like this.
>> It is a shame when other people in here bad-mouth Mirka.
>> It is a shame when you do it to Bridget.
>>
>> Pete and Roger, by all indications, get along well and have a lot of
>> respect for each other. So why talk bad about Pete and his family?
>>
>> This whole RST mess is not Pete's fault...
>>
>> Rodjk #613
>
>
> correct. it's whispers.
>
> i used to be a big sampras fan and supporter until whisper made me
> hate him.


That's very weak. What kind of moron actually changes his thinking
based on what someone else thinks?


     
Date: 17 Feb 2009 13:20:52
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:49:05 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Superdave wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:25:09 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
>> <rjkardo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 16, 7:33 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:16:27 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 13, 9:50 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:07 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 6:25 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:09:23 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 1:19 pm, robin <robinson.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Feb, 16:47, "Silence, Fedfucker!"
>>>>>>>>>> <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> - Graf married a fellow tennis player, Sampras
>>>>>>>>>>> married a Z-list actress.
>>>>>>>>>> Hey, you take that back. Mortal Kombat was a great movie.
>>>>>>>>> Lol, it was not. But Bridgette looked hot in that. She never acted in
>>>>>>>>> a good movie. All her movies were pathetic. And she is not a very good
>>>>>>>>> actress. She can act like a psychopath though.
>>>>>>>> bridgette is a classic gold digger. i find gold diggers most
>>>>>>>> disgusting.
>>>>>>> I dont know whether she is a gold digger. She was probably as rich as
>>>>>>> Sampras was. She was an actress after all. In fact Sampras should
>>>>>>> thank his stars he ended with a hot chick like Bridgette. She also
>>>>>>> seems like a good wife.
>>>>>> She was a BAD actress and NOT rich at all. She was attractive and had
>>>>>> a hole. That was good enough for Pete.
>>>>> Geez Dave. Its bad enough to bad-mouth Pete, but why all this hatred
>>>>> to his wife?
>>>>> Rodjk #613
>>>> truths.
>>>>
>>>> 1. she is generally acknowledged as being a bad actress.
>>>> 2. she was not rich.
>>>>
>>>> no hatred there. just facts.
>>>>
>>>> if she was a merryl streep type do you think she would have even given
>>>> that monkey a second look ?
>>> Again, what does any of this have to do with tennis?
>>> Dave, you were not always like this.
>>> It is a shame when other people in here bad-mouth Mirka.
>>> It is a shame when you do it to Bridget.
>>>
>>> Pete and Roger, by all indications, get along well and have a lot of
>>> respect for each other. So why talk bad about Pete and his family?
>>>
>>> This whole RST mess is not Pete's fault...
>>>
>>> Rodjk #613
>>
>>
>> correct. it's whispers.
>>
>> i used to be a big sampras fan and supporter until whisper made me
>> hate him.
>
>
>That's very weak. What kind of moron actually changes his thinking
>based on what someone else thinks?


No. Your outrageous fan fucking made me investigate deeper into
Sampras accomplishments and it was then and only then that I realized
all his flaws and shortcommings and was able to overcome the Madison
avenue hype and find the truth. Something you obviously have no
interest in whatsoever.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 08:16:58
From:
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 12:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
> No.1.
>
> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> Both use single hands.

Graf won 6 French Open, Sampras laid an egg there. Remarkable
coincidence there ;-)


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 06:34:25
From:
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 1:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
> No.1.
>
> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> Both use single hands.

Amazing.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 15:46:19
From: tttt
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
Whisper wrote:
>
>
> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
>
>
> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
> No.1.
>
> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> Both use single hands.


and there's one more remarkable coincidence:

Without Guenther Parche, they also would have won exactly the same
number of slams = 14


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 14:52:01
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: 7543 goats

"tttt" <ga96man@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:gn3tfn$nin$1@saavi.uwasa.fi...
> Whisper wrote:
>>
>>
>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>
>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>
>>
>>
>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>
>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>
>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>
>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>> No.1.
>>
>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>
>> Both use single hands.
>
>
> and there's one more remarkable coincidence:
>
> Without Guenther Parche, they also would have won exactly the same number
> of slams = 14


Nice one. :)




   
Date: 13 Feb 2009 16:04:42
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
"*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr > wrote in message
news:gn3tu6$bv4$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> "tttt" <ga96man@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:gn3tfn$nin$1@saavi.uwasa.fi...
>> Whisper wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>
>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>>
>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>
>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>
>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>>> No.1.
>>>
>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>
>>> Both use single hands.
>>
>>
>> and there's one more remarkable coincidence:
>>
>> Without Guenther Parche, they also would have won exactly the same number
>> of slams = 14
>
>
> Nice one. :)

lol




 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 04:44:23
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 6:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
> No.1.
>
> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> Both use single hands.

For every won similarity you list you would be able to list 10000
differences.


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 23:47:39
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
Professor X wrote:
> On Feb 13, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>
>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>
>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>
>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>
>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>
>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>> No.1.
>>
>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>
>> Both use single hands.
>
> For every won similarity you list you would be able to list 10000
> differences.


Well looking at the biggest achievements in the game - things like
winning Wimbledon, USO, No.1 record etc - there are remarkable
similarities. Your '10,000 differences' relate to moronic things like
number of letters in their name etc which have absolutely fuck all to do
with achievements on court.



 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 04:43:51
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 12:42=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:17:05 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>
>
>
> <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 13, 6:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> >> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> >> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> >> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> >> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> >> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks =
at
> >> No.1.
>
> >> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> >> Both use single hands.
>
> >Their are so many possibilities for coincidences in Tennis (or most
> >sports) that you can make statistics show anything you want. Their
> >were probably 1000000000bits of potential information you could have
> >examined about graf & sampras, yet only 4bits of the 10000000000000
> >seems to represent some sort of massive coincidence to you?
>
> >What if I were to say that it is a "coincidence" that all the top 4
> >players in the word come from countries beggining with "S"
> >Scotland
> >Switzerland
> >Serbia
> >Spain
>
> Hey, you stole that from me.
>
> >+ You are not even comparing like with like on your first point
> >( comparing french and USO)
>
> And you didn't even notice what was the bigger difference.

that graf WON the french open lol?


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 14:48:16
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:43:51 -0800 (PST), Professor X
<suebokaian@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 13, 12:42 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:17:05 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>>
>>
>>
>> <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Feb 13, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> >> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>
>> >> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>
>> >> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>
>> >> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>
>> >> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>
>> >> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>> >> No.1.
>>
>> >> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>
>> >> Both use single hands.
>>
>> >Their are so many possibilities for coincidences in Tennis (or most
>> >sports) that you can make statistics show anything you want. Their
>> >were probably 1000000000bits of potential information you could have
>> >examined about graf & sampras, yet only 4bits of the 10000000000000
>> >seems to represent some sort of massive coincidence to you?
>>
>> >What if I were to say that it is a "coincidence" that all the top 4
>> >players in the word come from countries beggining with "S"
>> >Scotland
>> >Switzerland
>> >Serbia
>> >Spain
>>
>> Hey, you stole that from me.
>>
>> >+ You are not even comparing like with like on your first point
>> >( comparing french and USO)
>>
>> And you didn't even notice what was the bigger difference.
>
>that graf WON the french open lol?

That she beat a different Martina in her first and last wins.


   
Date: 15 Feb 2009 22:19:38
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:43:51 -0800 (PST), Professor X
> <suebokaian@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 13, 12:42 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:17:05 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 13, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>
>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>
>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the
>>>>> finals.
>>>
>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>
>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>
>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall
>>>>> weeks at No.1.
>>>
>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>
>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>
>>>> Their are so many possibilities for coincidences in Tennis (or most
>>>> sports) that you can make statistics show anything you want. Their
>>>> were probably 1000000000bits of potential information you could
>>>> have examined about graf & sampras, yet only 4bits of the
>>>> 10000000000000 seems to represent some sort of massive coincidence
>>>> to you?
>>>
>>>> What if I were to say that it is a "coincidence" that all the top 4
>>>> players in the word come from countries beggining with "S"
>>>> Scotland
>>>> Switzerland
>>>> Serbia
>>>> Spain
>>>
>>> Hey, you stole that from me.
>>>
>>>> + You are not even comparing like with like on your first point
>>>> ( comparing french and USO)
>>>
>>> And you didn't even notice what was the bigger difference.
>>
>> that graf WON the french open lol?
>
> That she beat a different Martina in her first and last wins.

One could go further and say that the 2nd Martina was named after the 1st.





    
Date: 15 Feb 2009 22:24:56
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
DavidW wrote:
> Sakari Lund wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:43:51 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>> <suebokaian@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 13, 12:42 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:17:05 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 13, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>
>>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>
>>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the
>>>>>> finals.
>>>>
>>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the
>>>>>> finals.
>>>>
>>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>
>>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall
>>>>>> weeks at No.1.
>>>>
>>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>
>>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>>
>>>>> Their are so many possibilities for coincidences in Tennis (or
>>>>> most sports) that you can make statistics show anything you want.
>>>>> Their were probably 1000000000bits of potential information you
>>>>> could have examined about graf & sampras, yet only 4bits of the
>>>>> 10000000000000 seems to represent some sort of massive coincidence
>>>>> to you?
>>>>
>>>>> What if I were to say that it is a "coincidence" that all the top
>>>>> 4 players in the word come from countries beggining with "S"
>>>>> Scotland
>>>>> Switzerland
>>>>> Serbia
>>>>> Spain
>>>>
>>>> Hey, you stole that from me.
>>>>
>>>>> + You are not even comparing like with like on your first point
>>>>> ( comparing french and USO)
>>>>
>>>> And you didn't even notice what was the bigger difference.
>>>
>>> that graf WON the french open lol?
>>
>> That she beat a different Martina in her first and last wins.
>
> One could go further and say that the 2nd Martina was named after the
> 1st.

Oops. I missed Whisper's post. Been catching up after two days' absence.





   
Date: 13 Feb 2009 23:54:48
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:43:51 -0800 (PST), Professor X
> <suebokaian@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 13, 12:42 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:17:05 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 13, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>>>>> No.1.
>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>> Their are so many possibilities for coincidences in Tennis (or most
>>>> sports) that you can make statistics show anything you want. Their
>>>> were probably 1000000000bits of potential information you could have
>>>> examined about graf & sampras, yet only 4bits of the 10000000000000
>>>> seems to represent some sort of massive coincidence to you?
>>>> What if I were to say that it is a "coincidence" that all the top 4
>>>> players in the word come from countries beggining with "S"
>>>> Scotland
>>>> Switzerland
>>>> Serbia
>>>> Spain
>>> Hey, you stole that from me.
>>>
>>>> + You are not even comparing like with like on your first point
>>>> ( comparing french and USO)
>>> And you didn't even notice what was the bigger difference.
>> that graf WON the french open lol?
>
> That she beat a different Martina in her first and last wins.


Well Hingis was actually named after Navratilova.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 04:40:20
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 12:29=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Iceberg wrote:
> >>>> =A0If Federer wins his 14th at USO, he will be the only player in
> >>>> OE to win 6 USO.
> >>> So? Agassi had 4AO, Borg 6FO ,Fed would have 6 USO, and Sampras 7
> >>> Wimbledons.
>
> >>>> Better performance than Pete at 3 out of 4 grand slams that tip
> >>>> the scale in Federer's favour.
> >>> Well that's the only thing that tips anything but it's negligble sinc=
e
> >>> Fed himself holds no slam records.
> >> Perform better than Pete in 3 out of 4 slam of course give the nod to
> >> Federer
> >> in Goat debate. =A0Of course pete suckers like you will always think
> >> neligible.
>
> > Goat debate ended on Jan 1st 2009.
>
> What happened Jan 1?

What about remarkable coincidences between fed and sampras (I can
think of one of the top of my head (without even checking) --- they
both share the SAME birthday.

It's easy this game.


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 16:02:45
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
"Professor X" <suebokaian@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:f2cac5a4-1b7f-41ad-bd05-591d64032ff9@b16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 13, 12:29 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Iceberg wrote:
> >>>> If Federer wins his 14th at USO, he will be the only player in
> >>>> OE to win 6 USO.
> >>> So? Agassi had 4AO, Borg 6FO ,Fed would have 6 USO, and Sampras 7
> >>> Wimbledons.
>
> >>>> Better performance than Pete at 3 out of 4 grand slams that tip
> >>>> the scale in Federer's favour.
> >>> Well that's the only thing that tips anything but it's negligble since
> >>> Fed himself holds no slam records.
> >> Perform better than Pete in 3 out of 4 slam of course give the nod to
> >> Federer
> >> in Goat debate. Of course pete suckers like you will always think
> >> neligible.
>
> > Goat debate ended on Jan 1st 2009.
>
> What happened Jan 1?
>
>What about remarkable coincidences between fed and sampras (I can
>think of one of the top of my head (without even checking) --- they
>both share the SAME birthday.
>
>It's easy this game.

no they don't.




  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 14:50:01
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:40:20 -0800 (PST), Professor X
<suebokaian@hotmail.com > wrote:

>What about remarkable coincidences between fed and sampras (I can
>think of one of the top of my head (without even checking) --- they
>both share the SAME birthday.
>
>It's easy this game.

No, they don't.



  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 23:41:38
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
Professor X wrote:
> On Feb 13, 12:29 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Iceberg wrote:
>>>>>> If Federer wins his 14th at USO, he will be the only player in
>>>>>> OE to win 6 USO.
>>>>> So? Agassi had 4AO, Borg 6FO ,Fed would have 6 USO, and Sampras 7
>>>>> Wimbledons.
>>>>>> Better performance than Pete at 3 out of 4 grand slams that tip
>>>>>> the scale in Federer's favour.
>>>>> Well that's the only thing that tips anything but it's negligble since
>>>>> Fed himself holds no slam records.
>>>> Perform better than Pete in 3 out of 4 slam of course give the nod to
>>>> Federer
>>>> in Goat debate. Of course pete suckers like you will always think
>>>> neligible.
>>> Goat debate ended on Jan 1st 2009.
>> What happened Jan 1?
>
> What about remarkable coincidences between fed and sampras (I can
> think of one of the top of my head (without even checking) --- they
> both share the SAME birthday.
>
> It's easy this game.


Links?



 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 14:35:19
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:28:33 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>
>
>Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
>There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
>
>
>Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
>Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.

:-)


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 04:24:47
From:
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 4:03=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> >> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> >> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> >> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> >> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> >> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks =
at
> >> No.1.
>
> >> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> >> Both use single hands.
>
> > Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
> > with Martina though. They're the two
> > greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
> > volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
> > to other surfaces.
>
> Pete was far stronger from baseline than MN, allowing for gender.- Hide q=
uoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, his topspin backhand was far stronger than Graf's, so maybe we
can't compare those two either?


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 13:26:29
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: 7543 goats

<jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:4816fa28-0dc4-4a89-bb01-b87cbd322dea@f3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 13, 4:03 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> >> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> >> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> >> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> >> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> >> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks
> >> at
> >> No.1.
>
> >> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> >> Both use single hands.
>
> > Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
> > with Martina though. They're the two
> > greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
> > volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
> > to other surfaces.
>
> Pete was far stronger from baseline than MN, allowing for gender.- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

>Well, his topspin backhand was far stronger than Graf's, so maybe we
>can't compare those two either?


Yes, Sampras easily in straights. :)




 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 04:17:05
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 6:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
> No.1.
>
> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> Both use single hands.

Their are so many possibilities for coincidences in Tennis (or most
sports) that you can make statistics show anything you want. Their
were probably 1000000000bits of potential information you could have
examined about graf & sampras, yet only 4bits of the 10000000000000
seems to represent some sort of massive coincidence to you?

What if I were to say that it is a "coincidence" that all the top 4
players in the word come from countries beggining with "S"
Scotland
Switzerland
Serbia
Spain


+ You are not even comparing like with like on your first point
( comparing french and USO)


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 14:42:46
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:17:05 -0800 (PST), Professor X
<suebokaian@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 13, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>
>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>
>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>
>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>
>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>
>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>> No.1.
>>
>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>
>> Both use single hands.
>
>Their are so many possibilities for coincidences in Tennis (or most
>sports) that you can make statistics show anything you want. Their
>were probably 1000000000bits of potential information you could have
>examined about graf & sampras, yet only 4bits of the 10000000000000
>seems to represent some sort of massive coincidence to you?
>
>What if I were to say that it is a "coincidence" that all the top 4
>players in the word come from countries beggining with "S"
>Scotland
>Switzerland
>Serbia
>Spain

Hey, you stole that from me.

>+ You are not even comparing like with like on your first point
>( comparing french and USO)

And you didn't even notice what was the bigger difference.


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 23:24:43
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
Professor X wrote:
> On Feb 13, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>
>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>
>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>
>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>
>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>
>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>> No.1.
>>
>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>
>> Both use single hands.
>
> Their are so many possibilities for coincidences in Tennis (or most
> sports) that you can make statistics show anything you want. Their
> were probably 1000000000bits of potential information you could have
> examined about graf & sampras, yet only 4bits of the 10000000000000
> seems to represent some sort of massive coincidence to you?
>
> What if I were to say that it is a "coincidence" that all the top 4
> players in the word come from countries beggining with "S"
> Scotland
> Switzerland
> Serbia
> Spain
>
>
> + You are not even comparing like with like on your first point
> ( comparing french and USO)


Measuring achievement is a little different to place of birth etc.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 02:11:10
From:
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 9:03=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> >> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> >> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> >> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> >> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> >> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks =
at
> >> No.1.
>
> >> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> >> Both use single hands.
>
> > Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
> > with Martina though. They're the two
> > greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
> > volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
> > to other surfaces.
>
> Pete was far stronger from baseline than MN, allowing for gender.

Doesn't that mean that Martina was the bigger talent overall, since
net play demands more tennis skills?



  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 10:36:32
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
<gregorawe@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:fafcce32-4955-4f26-9524-0fb8968b4ac4@p13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 13, 9:03 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> >> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> >> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> >> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> >> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> >> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks
> >> at
> >> No.1.
>
> >> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> >> Both use single hands.
>
> > Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
> > with Martina though. They're the two
> > greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
> > volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
> > to other surfaces.
>
> Pete was far stronger from baseline than MN, allowing for gender.
>
>Doesn't that mean that Martina was the bigger talent overall, since
>net play demands more tennis skills?

he didn't say Sampras was a worse volleyer did he?




 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 00:14:03
From: Fan
Subject: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 8:17=A0am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 13, 1:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> >> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> >> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> >> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> >> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> >> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks =
at
> >> No.1.
>
> >> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> >> Both use single hands.
>
> >Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
> >with Martina though. They're the two
> >greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
> >volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
> >to other surfaces.
>
> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.

Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams. There are a few
other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome to
do it. Very impressive indeed.

The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
the French. There is no such thing as a =93goat=94.


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 20:06:58
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
Fan wrote:
> On Feb 13, 8:17 am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>>>> No.1.
>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>> Both use single hands.
>>> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>>> with Martina though. They're the two
>>> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>>> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>>> to other surfaces.
>> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.
>
> Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
> Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
> Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams.



duh - I have no problem saying 2 + 2 = 4.


> There are a few
> other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
> Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome to
> do it. Very impressive indeed.
>
> The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
> conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
> everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
> because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
> the French. There is no such thing as a “goat”.



Sampras is goat because nobody has a better record. FO will only be a
factor when somebody wins as much as him overall.

Sampras isn't perfect because he hasn't won FO or calendar slams, but he
has the best record in history so is goat at this point.



   
Date: 13 Feb 2009 10:18:47
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:49953836$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Fan wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 8:17 am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks
>>>>> at
>>>>> No.1.
>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>>>> with Martina though. They're the two
>>>> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>>>> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>>>> to other surfaces.
>>> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.
>>
>> Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
>> Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
>> Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams.
>
>
>
> duh - I have no problem saying 2 + 2 = 4.
>
>
>> There are a few
>> other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
>> Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome to
>> do it. Very impressive indeed.
>>
>> The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
>> conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
>> everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
>> because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
>> the French. There is no such thing as a “goat”.
>
>
>
> Sampras is goat because nobody has a better record. FO will only be a
> factor when somebody wins as much as him overall.
>
> Sampras isn't perfect because he hasn't won FO or calendar slams, but he
> has the best record in history so is goat at this point.

The Sampras detractors hate this obvious and blatant fact.




   
Date: 13 Feb 2009 20:16:24
From: john
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats

"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:49953836$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Fan wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 8:17 am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks
>>>>> at
>>>>> No.1.
>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>>>> with Martina though. They're the two
>>>> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>>>> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>>>> to other surfaces.
>>> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.
>>
>> Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
>> Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
>> Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams.
>
>
>
> duh - I have no problem saying 2 + 2 = 4.
>
>
>> There are a few
>> other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
>> Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome to
>> do it. Very impressive indeed.
>>
>> The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
>> conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
>> everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
>> because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
>> the French. There is no such thing as a “goat”.
>
>
>
> Sampras is goat because nobody has a better record. FO will only be a
> factor when somebody wins as much as him overall.
>
> Sampras isn't perfect because he hasn't won FO or calendar slams, but he
> has the best record in history so is goat at this point.
>

7543 is rubbish and it is outdated. Sampras is Goat at the moment but
that will change when Federer win his 14th slam. Federer may not win a FO
but
Sampras has a major hole in his record that he never once made FO final.




    
Date: 13 Feb 2009 10:21:48
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
"john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:499539f6$0$23918$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:49953836$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Fan wrote:
>>> On Feb 13, 8:17 am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> No.1.
>>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>>> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>>>>> with Martina though. They're the two
>>>>> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>>>>> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>>>>> to other surfaces.
>>>> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.
>>>
>>> Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
>>> Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
>>> Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams.
>>
>>
>>
>> duh - I have no problem saying 2 + 2 = 4.
>>
>>
>>> There are a few
>>> other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
>>> Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome to
>>> do it. Very impressive indeed.
>>>
>>> The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
>>> conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
>>> everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
>>> because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
>>> the French. There is no such thing as a “goat”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sampras is goat because nobody has a better record. FO will only be a
>> factor when somebody wins as much as him overall.
>>
>> Sampras isn't perfect because he hasn't won FO or calendar slams, but he
>> has the best record in history so is goat at this point.
>>
>
> 7543 is rubbish and it is outdated. Sampras is Goat at the moment but
> that will change when Federer win his 14th slam.

so that means Sampras is goat now then, right, for definite?




    
Date: 13 Feb 2009 10:52:38
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats

"john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:499539f6$0$23918$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:49953836$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Fan wrote:
>>> On Feb 13, 8:17 am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> No.1.
>>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>>> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>>>>> with Martina though. They're the two
>>>>> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>>>>> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>>>>> to other surfaces.
>>>> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.
>>>
>>> Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
>>> Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
>>> Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams.
>>
>>
>>
>> duh - I have no problem saying 2 + 2 = 4.
>>
>>
>>> There are a few
>>> other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
>>> Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome to
>>> do it. Very impressive indeed.
>>>
>>> The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
>>> conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
>>> everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
>>> because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
>>> the French. There is no such thing as a “goat”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sampras is goat because nobody has a better record. FO will only be a
>> factor when somebody wins as much as him overall.
>>
>> Sampras isn't perfect because he hasn't won FO or calendar slams, but he
>> has the best record in history so is goat at this point.
>>
>
> 7543 is rubbish and it is outdated. Sampras is Goat at the moment but
> that will change when Federer win his 14th slam.

Why? What record will Federer own then? On his own?
no slams, no single slam, no #1 records..






     
Date: 13 Feb 2009 21:43:06
From: john
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats

"*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr > wrote in message
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>
> "john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:499539f6$0$23918$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:49953836$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> Fan wrote:
>>>> On Feb 13, 8:17 am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall
>>>>>>> weeks at
>>>>>>> No.1.
>>>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>>>> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>>>>>> with Martina though. They're the two
>>>>>> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>>>>>> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>>>>>> to other surfaces.
>>>>> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.
>>>>
>>>> Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
>>>> Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
>>>> Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> duh - I have no problem saying 2 + 2 = 4.
>>>
>>>
>>>> There are a few
>>>> other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
>>>> Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome to
>>>> do it. Very impressive indeed.
>>>>
>>>> The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
>>>> conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
>>>> everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
>>>> because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
>>>> the French. There is no such thing as a "goat".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sampras is goat because nobody has a better record. FO will only be a
>>> factor when somebody wins as much as him overall.
>>>
>>> Sampras isn't perfect because he hasn't won FO or calendar slams, but he
>>> has the best record in history so is goat at this point.
>>>
>>
>> 7543 is rubbish and it is outdated. Sampras is Goat at the moment but
>> that will change when Federer win his 14th slam.
>
> Why? What record will Federer own then? On his own?
> no slams, no single slam, no #1 records..

Federer already has the longest un-interrupt reign as No.1 of 4.5 years
better than
Sampras' 6 YE No.1. If Federer wins his 14th at USO, he will be the only
player in
OE to win 6 USO. Better performance than Pete at 3 out of 4 grand slams
that tip
the scale in Federer's favour.

>
>
>
>




      
Date: 13 Feb 2009 12:01:22
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats

"john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
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>
> "*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
> news:gn3ff6$8kr$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>>
>> "john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:499539f6$0$23918$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:49953836$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>> Fan wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 13, 8:17 am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the
>>>>>>>> finals.
>>>>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall
>>>>>>>> weeks at
>>>>>>>> No.1.
>>>>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>>>>> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>>>>>>> with Martina though. They're the two
>>>>>>> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>>>>>>> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>>>>>>> to other surfaces.
>>>>>> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.
>>>>>
>>>>> Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
>>>>> Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
>>>>> Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> duh - I have no problem saying 2 + 2 = 4.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There are a few
>>>>> other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
>>>>> Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome to
>>>>> do it. Very impressive indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
>>>>> conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
>>>>> everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
>>>>> because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
>>>>> the French. There is no such thing as a "goat".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sampras is goat because nobody has a better record. FO will only be a
>>>> factor when somebody wins as much as him overall.
>>>>
>>>> Sampras isn't perfect because he hasn't won FO or calendar slams, but
>>>> he has the best record in history so is goat at this point.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 7543 is rubbish and it is outdated. Sampras is Goat at the moment but
>>> that will change when Federer win his 14th slam.
>>
>> Why? What record will Federer own then? On his own?
>> no slams, no single slam, no #1 records..
>
> Federer already has the longest un-interrupt reign as No.1 of 4.5 years
> better than
> Sampras' 6 YE No.1.


I fail to see how is 4 > 6 and 237 > 286?
moronic


> If Federer wins his 14th at USO, he will be the only player in
> OE to win 6 USO.

So? Agassi had 4AO, Borg 6FO ,Fed would have 6 USO, and Sampras 7
Wimbledons.


>Better performance than Pete at 3 out of 4 grand slams that tip
> the scale in Federer's favour.

Well that's the only thing that tips anything but it's negligble since Fed
himself holds no slam records.




       
Date: 13 Feb 2009 22:27:45
From: john
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats

"*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr > wrote in message
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>
> "john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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>>
>> "*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>> news:gn3ff6$8kr$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>>>
>>> "john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:499539f6$0$23918$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:49953836$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>> Fan wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 13, 8:17 am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the
>>>>>>>>> finals.
>>>>>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>>>>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall
>>>>>>>>> weeks at
>>>>>>>>> No.1.
>>>>>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>>>>>> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>>>>>>>> with Martina though. They're the two
>>>>>>>> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>>>>>>>> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>>>>>>>> to other surfaces.
>>>>>>> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
>>>>>> Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
>>>>>> Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> duh - I have no problem saying 2 + 2 = 4.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are a few
>>>>>> other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
>>>>>> Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome to
>>>>>> do it. Very impressive indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
>>>>>> conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
>>>>>> everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
>>>>>> because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
>>>>>> the French. There is no such thing as a "goat".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sampras is goat because nobody has a better record. FO will only be a
>>>>> factor when somebody wins as much as him overall.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sampras isn't perfect because he hasn't won FO or calendar slams, but
>>>>> he has the best record in history so is goat at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 7543 is rubbish and it is outdated. Sampras is Goat at the moment but
>>>> that will change when Federer win his 14th slam.
>>>
>>> Why? What record will Federer own then? On his own?
>>> no slams, no single slam, no #1 records..
>>
>> Federer already has the longest un-interrupt reign as No.1 of 4.5 years
>> better than
>> Sampras' 6 YE No.1.
>
>
> I fail to see how is 4 > 6 and 237 > 286?
> moronic
>
>
>> If Federer wins his 14th at USO, he will be the only player in
>> OE to win 6 USO.
>
> So? Agassi had 4AO, Borg 6FO ,Fed would have 6 USO, and Sampras 7
> Wimbledons.
>
>
>>Better performance than Pete at 3 out of 4 grand slams that tip
>> the scale in Federer's favour.
>
> Well that's the only thing that tips anything but it's negligble since Fed
> himself holds no slam records.

Perform better than Pete in 3 out of 4 slam of course give the nod to
Federer
in Goat debate. Of course pete suckers like you will always think
neligible.

>
>




        
Date: 13 Feb 2009 12:27:41
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
"john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
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>
> "*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
> news:gn3ju4$ike$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>>
>> "john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:49954e47$0$23941$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>
>>> "*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>>> news:gn3ff6$8kr$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>>>>
>>>> "john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:499539f6$0$23918$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49953836$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>> Fan wrote:
>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 8:17 am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>>>>>>>>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>>>>>>>>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the
>>>>>>>>>> finals.
>>>>>>>>>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the
>>>>>>>>>> finals.
>>>>>>>>>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>>>>>>>>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall
>>>>>>>>>> weeks at
>>>>>>>>>> No.1.
>>>>>>>>>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>>>>>>>>> Both use single hands.
>>>>>>>>> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>>>>>>>>> with Martina though. They're the two
>>>>>>>>> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>>>>>>>>> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>>>>>>>>> to other surfaces.
>>>>>>>> sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Find it hard to understand why Sampras trolls are not satisfied with
>>>>>>> Sampras' real accomplishments. I have no problem with saying that
>>>>>>> Sampras was best at Wimbledon and won most slams.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> duh - I have no problem saying 2 + 2 = 4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are a few
>>>>>>> other Sampras records that Sampras fans (big difference between
>>>>>>> Sampras fans and Sampras trolls :) could list and they are welcome
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do it. Very impressive indeed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem I have with Sampras trolls is that they are trying to
>>>>>>> conjure up crazy and meaningless numbers to make their hero best at
>>>>>>> everything. Nothing, absolutely nothing can make Sampras a "goat"
>>>>>>> because he never won the French, he never even came close to winning
>>>>>>> the French. There is no such thing as a "goat".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sampras is goat because nobody has a better record. FO will only be a
>>>>>> factor when somebody wins as much as him overall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sampras isn't perfect because he hasn't won FO or calendar slams, but
>>>>>> he has the best record in history so is goat at this point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 7543 is rubbish and it is outdated. Sampras is Goat at the moment but
>>>>> that will change when Federer win his 14th slam.
>>>>
>>>> Why? What record will Federer own then? On his own?
>>>> no slams, no single slam, no #1 records..
>>>
>>> Federer already has the longest un-interrupt reign as No.1 of 4.5 years
>>> better than
>>> Sampras' 6 YE No.1.
>>
>>
>> I fail to see how is 4 > 6 and 237 > 286?
>> moronic
>>
>>
>>> If Federer wins his 14th at USO, he will be the only player in
>>> OE to win 6 USO.
>>
>> So? Agassi had 4AO, Borg 6FO ,Fed would have 6 USO, and Sampras 7
>> Wimbledons.
>>
>>
>>>Better performance than Pete at 3 out of 4 grand slams that tip
>>> the scale in Federer's favour.
>>
>> Well that's the only thing that tips anything but it's negligble since
>> Fed himself holds no slam records.
>
> Perform better than Pete in 3 out of 4 slam of course give the nod to
> Federer
> in Goat debate. Of course pete suckers like you will always think
> neligible.

Goat debate ended on Jan 1st 2009.




         
Date: 13 Feb 2009 23:29:43
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
Iceberg wrote:
>>>> If Federer wins his 14th at USO, he will be the only player in
>>>> OE to win 6 USO.
>>> So? Agassi had 4AO, Borg 6FO ,Fed would have 6 USO, and Sampras 7
>>> Wimbledons.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Better performance than Pete at 3 out of 4 grand slams that tip
>>>> the scale in Federer's favour.
>>> Well that's the only thing that tips anything but it's negligble since
>>> Fed himself holds no slam records.
>> Perform better than Pete in 3 out of 4 slam of course give the nod to
>> Federer
>> in Goat debate. Of course pete suckers like you will always think
>> neligible.
>
> Goat debate ended on Jan 1st 2009.
>
>


What happened Jan 1?



          
Date: 13 Feb 2009 12:31:45
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Nuts! - Re: 7543 goats
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:499567bb$0$23951$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Iceberg wrote:
>>>>> If Federer wins his 14th at USO, he will be the only player in
>>>>> OE to win 6 USO.
>>>> So? Agassi had 4AO, Borg 6FO ,Fed would have 6 USO, and Sampras 7
>>>> Wimbledons.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Better performance than Pete at 3 out of 4 grand slams that tip
>>>>> the scale in Federer's favour.
>>>> Well that's the only thing that tips anything but it's negligble since
>>>> Fed himself holds no slam records.
>>> Perform better than Pete in 3 out of 4 slam of course give the nod to
>>> Federer
>>> in Goat debate. Of course pete suckers like you will always think
>>> neligible.
>>
>> Goat debate ended on Jan 1st 2009.
> What happened Jan 1?

Nadal year end number 1.




 
Date: 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07
From:
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Feb 13, 1:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>
> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>
> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>
> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>
> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>
> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
> No.1.
>
> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>
> Both use single hands.

Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
with Martina though. They're the two
greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
to other surfaces.


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 20:03:01
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>
>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>
>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>
>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>
>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>
>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>> No.1.
>>
>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>
>> Both use single hands.
>
> Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
> with Martina though. They're the two
> greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
> volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
> to other surfaces.


Pete was far stronger from baseline than MN, allowing for gender.



  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 07:17:11
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: 7543 goats
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:52:07 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Feb 13, 1:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Graf & Sampras are the 7543 (ie slam quality) goats.
>>
>> There are some remarkable coincidences;
>>
>> Sampras won his 1st & last slams at USO beating Andre in the finals.
>>
>> Graf won her 1st & last slams at FO beating Martina in the finals.
>>
>> They both won 7 Wimbledons & 5 USOs (2 biggest tournaments).
>>
>> They both hold alltime No.1 records, including yr-end & overall weeks at
>> No.1.
>>
>> There is 12 years between their 1st & last slams.
>>
>> Both use single hands.
>
>Some interesting parallels. I still see Pete having more in common
>with Martina though. They're the two
>greatest Wimby champions, imo. Both were great net players, serve/
>volleyers, both struggled on clay relative
>to other surfaces.


sampras sucked really. very over rated imho.