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Date: 21 Jan 2009 04:27:49
From: mimus
Subject: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
Arrgh.

I don't want either one to lose.

But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely outcome, all
things considered, although Chakvetadze's been struggling too).

What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the set)
seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.

--

Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.





 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 10:08:57
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Jan 22, 5:20=A0am, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:10:59 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
>
>
>
> <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 21, 3:33=A0pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
> >> Sakari Lund wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.a=
u >
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> DavidW wrote:
> >> >>> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big
> >> >>> let-down for Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>
> >> >> The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>
> >> >> Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. =A0Impossible to pic=
k.
>
> >> > I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
> >> > quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving.
>
> >> It was very fitting, but very unfortunate for neutral spectators, that=
the
> >> match ended on two DFs. We were denied seeing if Dokic could serve it =
out, and
> >> she was denied the chance to win it herself.
>
> >> > Some good shots from
> >> > Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary.
>
> >> She was very uptight. I thought she looked on the verge of tears at ti=
mes.
>
> >Chakvetadze has seemed on the verge of tears for quite a while.
>
> Well, I think she has always seemed on the verge of tears during
> matches, even before the burglary, so that's nothing new. I just think
> her level has dropped.
>
> >I have a feeling that the burglary affected her more than we can
> >know...or that more happened than we are aware of.
>
> Do you mean what I think you mean?

I just wonder if there is more to the story than we know.
Not that she is in anyway obligated to tell...

I am just thinking in print here...wondering what caused her decline.
Of course, others have shot up the ranking and fallen without
burglaries. Nicole Vaidisova, for example.

Rodjk #613


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 06:05:51
From:
Subject: Re: Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
In article
<9474ac36-91a0-4e00-921a-0ebe11f049a4@v5g2000pre.googlegroups.com >,
rjkardo@gmail.com (Rodjk #613) wrote:

>
> I am just thinking in print here...wondering what caused her
> decline.
> Of course, others have shot up the ranking and fallen without
> burglaries. Nicole Vaidisova, for example.

I think having her house broken into and being held hostage and having
stuff stolen is really enough of an explanation - the higher ranked she is
and the more she wins the more of a target she is, and it wouldn't be
surprising if she had mixed feelings about her success since it's already
made her a target of violence once.

I don't think Chakvetadze (who has had a significantly better career so
far than Vaidisova, and hasn't fallen nearly as far) was a head case
before; Vaidisova was.

wg


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 14:10:59
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Jan 21, 3:33=A0pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided > wrote:
> Sakari Lund wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> > wrote:
>
> >> DavidW wrote:
> >>> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big
> >>> let-down for Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>
> >> The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>
> >> Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. =A0Impossible to pick.
>
> > I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
> > quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving.
>
> It was very fitting, but very unfortunate for neutral spectators, that th=
e
> match ended on two DFs. We were denied seeing if Dokic could serve it out=
, and
> she was denied the chance to win it herself.
>
> > Some good shots from
> > Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary.
>
> She was very uptight. I thought she looked on the verge of tears at times=
.

Chakvetadze has seemed on the verge of tears for quite a while.
I have a feeling that the burglary affected her more than we can
know...or that more happened than we are aware of.

Rodjk #613


  
Date: 22 Jan 2009 13:20:11
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:10:59 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
<rjkardo@gmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 21, 3:33†pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>> Sakari Lund wrote:
>> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> DavidW wrote:
>> >>> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big
>> >>> let-down for Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>>
>> >> The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>>
>> >> Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. †Impossible to pick.
>>
>> > I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
>> > quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving.
>>
>> It was very fitting, but very unfortunate for neutral spectators, that the
>> match ended on two DFs. We were denied seeing if Dokic could serve it out, and
>> she was denied the chance to win it herself.
>>
>> > Some good shots from
>> > Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary.
>>
>> She was very uptight. I thought she looked on the verge of tears at times.
>
>Chakvetadze has seemed on the verge of tears for quite a while.

Well, I think she has always seemed on the verge of tears during
matches, even before the burglary, so that's nothing new. I just think
her level has dropped.

>I have a feeling that the burglary affected her more than we can
>know...or that more happened than we are aware of.

Do you mean what I think you mean?



   
Date: 22 Jan 2009 13:03:16
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)

"Sakari Lund" <sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote in message
news:0dlgn4titm7q5q8ati5epd8naesac1pstt@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:10:59 -0800 (PST), "Rodjk #613"
> <rjkardo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 21, 3:33 pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>>> Sakari Lund wrote:
>>> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >> DavidW wrote:
>>> >>> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big
>>> >>> let-down for Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>>>
>>> >> The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>>>
>>> >> Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. Impossible to pick.
>>>
>>> > I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
>>> > quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving.
>>>
>>> It was very fitting, but very unfortunate for neutral spectators, that
>>> the
>>> match ended on two DFs. We were denied seeing if Dokic could serve it
>>> out, and
>>> she was denied the chance to win it herself.
>>>
>>> > Some good shots from
>>> > Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary.
>>>
>>> She was very uptight. I thought she looked on the verge of tears at
>>> times.
>>
>>Chakvetadze has seemed on the verge of tears for quite a while.
>
> Well, I think she has always seemed on the verge of tears during
> matches, even before the burglary, so that's nothing new. I just think
> her level has dropped.
>
>>I have a feeling that the burglary affected her more than we can
>>know...or that more happened than we are aware of.
>
> Do you mean what I think you mean?


You mean they were rapists pretending to be burglars?




 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 10:22:00
From: Pedro Dias
Subject: Re: Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Jan 21, 6:40=A0am, Hg <h...@hg2.hg > wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:27:49 -0500, mimus wrote:
> > Arrgh.
>
> > I don't want either one to lose.
>
> > But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely outcome,
> > all things considered, although Chakvetadze's been struggling too).
>
> > What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the set)
> > seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.
>
> It's easy to forget that Dokic was a great player in the past. I remember
> watching her beat Clijsters when Kim was No 1 in the world. Not possible =
to
> do without excellent point construction and court generalship.
>
Hmmm... Not sure I'd have chosen to credit Dokic with "point
construction and court generalship", as I understand those concept. My
recollection - possibly distorted, never paid that much attention - is
of a basher who did very well when her shots went in, but was on the
whole horribly inconsistent.


  
Date: 21 Jan 2009 13:45:16
From: mimus
Subject: Re: Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:22:00 -0800, Pedro Dias wrote:

> On Jan 21, 6:40 am, Hg <h...@hg2.hg> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:27:49 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>
>>> Arrgh.
>>>
>>> I don't want either one to lose.
>>>
>>> But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely outcome,
>>> all things considered, although Chakvetadze's been struggling too).
>>>
>>> What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the set)
>>> seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.
>>
>> It's easy to forget that Dokic was a great player in the past. I remember
>> watching her beat Clijsters when Kim was No 1 in the world. Not possible to
>> do without excellent point construction and court generalship.
>>
> Hmmm... Not sure I'd have chosen to credit Dokic with "point
> construction and court generalship", as I understand those concept. My
> recollection - possibly distorted, never paid that much attention - is
> of a basher who did very well when her shots went in, but was on the
> whole horribly inconsistent.

Fast, powerful, with quick straight flat winners and putaways, with her
little pointy Southern Slavic face generally scrunched up horribly as she
whacked Hell outa the ball.

Fun to watch.

But no-one would've taken her for Hingis out there, although Hingis
herself only leads their head-to-head 3-2 (woohoo!). . . .

--

Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.



 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 07:36:14
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Jan 21, 6:26=A0am, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >DavidW wrote:
> >> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big let=
-down for
> >> Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>
> >The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>
> >Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. =A0Impossible to pick.
>
> I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
> quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving. Some good shots from
> Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary. I am
> kind of happy for Dokic.

I'm happy for Dokic, but had forgotten about the burglary and now feel
bad for Chakvetadze.


  
Date: 22 Jan 2009 23:34:33
From: Jesper Lauridsen
Subject: Re: Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On 2009-01-21, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swallow@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> I'm happy for Dokic, but had forgotten about the burglary and now feel
> bad for Chakvetadze.

I wanted both to win, but Dokic does need it a lot more (quick quiz: when
did Dokic last win a slam match?), so I was happy to see her take it.

My sympathies run out in the next round, though.


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 11:40:27
From: Hg
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:27:49 -0500, mimus wrote:

> Arrgh.
>
> I don't want either one to lose.
>
> But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely outcome,
> all things considered, although Chakvetadze's been struggling too).
>
> What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the set)
> seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.


It's easy to forget that Dokic was a great player in the past. I remember
watching her beat Clijsters when Kim was No 1 in the world. Not possible to
do without excellent point construction and court generalship.


--
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Date: 21 Jan 2009 16:51:52
From:
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
In article <LQDdl.23347$Sp5.16193@text.news.virginmedia.com >, hg@hg2.hg
(Hg) wrote:

>
> It's easy to forget that Dokic was a great player in the past. I
> remember
> watching her beat Clijsters when Kim was No 1 in the world. Not
> possible to
> do without excellent point construction and court generalship.

It makes a big difference, I'm sure. Dokic knows what it's like to beat
top players and make the sf of Slams. So does Chakvetadze, of course, but
if Dokic is really back she's a very tough floater to come up against in a
2R.

And let's not forget that this is a player who as an unknown 16yo
qualified for Wimbledon and then proceeded to beat the #1 seed (Martina
Hingis) in the 1R, (also seeded) Mary Pierce in the 3R, and get all the
way to the quarterfinals - and then followed it up by making the Wimbledon
semi the following year.

It should be an interesting match against Wozniacki; in fact they remind
me of each other. They both have a lot of intensity and like to hit hard
and fairly flat - which is why they both like grass a lot. ISTM that
either could win; Dokic in fact has more experience at this level, even
though Wozniacki has been playing extremely well over the last year.

I think Dokic's serve is looking much improved from the old days, too.

wg


  
Date: 21 Jan 2009 07:20:56
From: mimus
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:40:27 +0000, Hg wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:27:49 -0500, mimus wrote:
>
>> Arrgh.
>>
>> I don't want either one to lose.
>>
>> But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely outcome,
>> all things considered, although Chakvetadze's been struggling too).
>>
>> What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the set)
>> seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.
>
> It's easy to forget that Dokic was a great player in the past. I remember
> watching her beat Clijsters when Kim was No 1 in the world. Not possible to
> do without excellent point construction and court generalship.

I ended up basically rooting for her based I think on the "who is coming
back from the deepest and longest Hell" principle.

(I hadn't heard the story or stories about the bruises before, either.)

But it made me mad when one of the ESPN commentators was meowing about
she'd never understood how Chakvetadze was ever Top 5 or even Top 10:

Nobody _gave_ her that ranking, and at her best she can hang and has hung
tough with the best, all but the biggest of Big Babes (and, of course,
Henin) on their best games.

(Mean, too, in the American sense-- I like how she'll stand out there
on the baseline and have obviously bitter conversations with herself.)

Both great players, both on the comeback trail, and, like I said, I hated
to see either lose.

--

Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.



 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 21:17:40
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big let-down for
Dokic, having been in a winning position.





  
Date: 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
DavidW wrote:
> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big let-down for
> Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>
>
>


The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.

Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. Impossible to pick.



   
Date: 21 Jan 2009 16:26:11
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>DavidW wrote:
>> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big let-down for
>> Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>
>Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. Impossible to pick.

I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving. Some good shots from
Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary. I am
kind of happy for Dokic.


    
Date: 22 Jan 2009 08:33:45
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> DavidW wrote:
>>> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big
>>> let-down for Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>>>
>>
>> The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>>
>> Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. Impossible to pick.
>
> I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
> quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving.

It was very fitting, but very unfortunate for neutral spectators, that the
match ended on two DFs. We were denied seeing if Dokic could serve it out, and
she was denied the chance to win it herself.

> Some good shots from
> Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary.

She was very uptight. I thought she looked on the verge of tears at times.





    
Date: 22 Jan 2009 06:50:12
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> DavidW wrote:
>>> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big let-down for
>>> Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>>
>> Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. Impossible to pick.
>
> I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
> quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving. Some good shots from
> Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary. I am
> kind of happy for Dokic.


They were going for it so you have to expect errors, but pretty gutsy
overall, despite some df's from chak especially.



     
Date: 21 Jan 2009 22:32:56
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:50:12 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Sakari Lund wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> DavidW wrote:
>>>> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big let-down for
>>>> Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>>>
>>> Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. Impossible to pick.
>>
>> I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
>> quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving. Some good shots from
>> Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary. I am
>> kind of happy for Dokic.
>
>
>They were going for it so you have to expect errors, but pretty gutsy
>overall, despite some df's from chak especially.

99,9% of WTA players are going for it these days, but that doesn't
make it good. I can't say about the first two sets, but the third set
was pretty bad tennis. Totally different thing is all the non-tennis
issues involved in the match, which made it interesting to watch.




      
Date: 21 Jan 2009 17:26:51
From: mimus
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:32:56 +0200, Sakari Lund wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:50:12 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Sakari Lund wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:22:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> DavidW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A set all. What a nerve-fest this is going to be. It must be a big let-down for
>>>>> Dokic, having been in a winning position.
>>>>
>>>> The quality is pretty good though - both trying to hit out.
>>>>
>>>> Whichever girl hits purple patch 1st will win. Impossible to pick.
>>>
>>> I only saw the 3rd set (almost from the beginning). I thought the
>>> quality was mostly lousy. Especially the serving. Some good shots from
>>> Dokic. Chakvetadze is a shadow of herself after the burglary. I am
>>> kind of happy for Dokic.
>>
>> They were going for it so you have to expect errors, but pretty gutsy
>> overall, despite some df's from chak especially.
>
> 99,9% of WTA players are going for it these days, but that doesn't make
> it good. I can't say about the first two sets, but the third set was
> pretty bad tennis. Totally different thing is all the non-tennis issues
> involved in the match, which made it interesting to watch.

And which also impacted the quality, although not the drama, since both
were nervous wrecks:

Anna in particular had to go off after the first set on the break to throw
up and/or cry.

And in the end, Jelena held it together a bit better-- maybe her long
history of being on the receiving end of all that insanity and abuse has a
bit of an up-side, eh? along the lines of Dementieva not being
particularly worried about finding herself in the middle of a break-fest--
and her edge in power helped.

--

Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.



 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 20:29:25
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
mimus wrote:
> Arrgh.
>
> I don't want either one to lose.
>
> But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely outcome, all
> things considered, although Chakvetadze's been struggling too).
>
> What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the set)
> seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.
>


Jelena is going for her shots & most are going in, but the other chick
is pretty consistent - gets everything back unless it's out of reach.



 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 20:30:24
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
mimus wrote:
> Arrgh.
>
> I don't want either one to lose.
>
> But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely outcome,
> all things considered, although Chakvetadze's been struggling too).
>
> What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the set)
> seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.

Dokic is playing pretty well but it's a competetive match. Chakvetadze is
pretty good in rallies but her serve is awful. She looks intimidated and a
little overwhelmed by the occasion. She must feel that the whole stadium is
against her and she looks nervous, but I think she's playing well enough to win
if she can just cut out the DFs and weak serves.





  
Date: 21 Jan 2009 20:42:48
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
DavidW wrote:
> Chakvetadze is pretty good in rallies but her serve is awful.

I should clarify: Her first serve has plenty on it but she's in trouble when
she misses it. She was broken in one game almost entirely due to her serve.





  
Date: 21 Jan 2009 20:33:23
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
DavidW wrote:
> mimus wrote:
>> Arrgh.
>>
>> I don't want either one to lose.
>>
>> But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely outcome,
>> all things considered, although Chakvetadze's been struggling too).
>>
>> What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the set)
>> seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.
>
> Dokic is playing pretty well but it's a competetive match. Chakvetadze is
> pretty good in rallies but her serve is awful. She looks intimidated and a
> little overwhelmed by the occasion. She must feel that the whole stadium is
> against her and she looks nervous, but I think she's playing well enough to win
> if she can just cut out the DFs and weak serves.
>
>
>


Yeah it's anyone's match. I think Chak has a tyrannical father too so
it's like Jelena playing her junior self.


   
Date: 21 Jan 2009 20:54:54
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
Whisper wrote:
> DavidW wrote:
>> mimus wrote:
>>> Arrgh.
>>>
>>> I don't want either one to lose.
>>>
>>> But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely
>>> outcome, all things considered, although Chakvetadze's been
>>> struggling too).
>>>
>>> What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the
>>> set) seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.
>>
>> Dokic is playing pretty well but it's a competetive match.
>> Chakvetadze is pretty good in rallies but her serve is awful. She
>> looks intimidated and a little overwhelmed by the occasion. She must
>> feel that the whole stadium is against her and she looks nervous,
>> but I think she's playing well enough to win if she can just cut out
>> the DFs and weak serves.
>>
>
> Yeah it's anyone's match. I think Chak has a tyrannical father too so
> it's like Jelena playing her junior self.

Three breaks in a row. They've both got their demons tonight.





    
Date: 21 Jan 2009 20:58:27
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: [AO] Dokic-Chakvetadze (Partial Spoiler)
DavidW wrote:
> Whisper wrote:
>> DavidW wrote:
>>> mimus wrote:
>>>> Arrgh.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want either one to lose.
>>>>
>>>> But Dokic takes the first set 6-4 (perhaps the more unlikely
>>>> outcome, all things considered, although Chakvetadze's been
>>>> struggling too).
>>>>
>>>> What little I just got a glimpse of on ESPN (the last game of the
>>>> set) seemed to show Dokic taking advantage of an edge in power.
>>>
>>> Dokic is playing pretty well but it's a competetive match.
>>> Chakvetadze is pretty good in rallies but her serve is awful. She
>>> looks intimidated and a little overwhelmed by the occasion. She must
>>> feel that the whole stadium is against her and she looks nervous,
>>> but I think she's playing well enough to win if she can just cut out
>>> the DFs and weak serves.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah it's anyone's match. I think Chak has a tyrannical father too
>> so it's like Jelena playing her junior self.
>
> Three breaks in a row. They've both got their demons tonight.

Make that four. Neither has the nerve to hold her serve.