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Date: 24 Jan 2009 20:47:44
From: mimus
Subject: [AO] Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
ROFLMAO

World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
Bartoli 6-1 6-4.

It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline and
the service box (no exaggeration at all) and got down into her low
butt-waggling return posture, like a cat getting ready to go after a bird,
in an obvious intimidation-move, which worked, tactically, drawing the
netted second serve and break she wanted, but may've back-fired a bit
operationally or strategically in making Jankovic mad and waking her up a
bit.

Great match.

And, BTW, on Bartoli's final service-game, for the match, she got to three
match points, and on missing a serve _did not_ fiddle with any Miss Nancy
second-serve nonsense but went for it, over one hundred miles an hour, not
quite a complete first serve but darned close.

--

Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.





 
Date: 25 Jan 2009 12:53:06
From:
Subject: Re: Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler) (Does this mean Serena will be #1)
Horrible, horrible result for tennis. Why is this woman so fat? Miss
Piggy needs to go on a diet.



 
Date: 25 Jan 2009 10:45:34
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler) (Does this mean Serena will be #1)
On Jan 24, 7:47=A0pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> ROFLMAO
>
> World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
> Bartoli 6-1 6-4.
>
> It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
> break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline and
> the service box (no exaggeration at all) and got down into her low
> butt-waggling return posture, like a cat getting ready to go after a bird=
,
> in an obvious intimidation-move, which worked, tactically, drawing the
> netted second serve and break she wanted, but may've back-fired a bit
> operationally or strategically in making Jankovic mad and waking her up a
> bit.
>
> Great match.
>
> And, BTW, on Bartoli's final service-game, for the match, she got to thre=
e
> match points, and on missing a serve _did not_ fiddle with any Miss Nancy
> second-serve nonsense but went for it, over one hundred miles an hour, no=
t
> quite a complete first serve but darned close.
>
> --
>
> Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.

Does this mean Serena will be #1? This just blows



 
Date: 25 Jan 2009 19:04:32
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: [AO] Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:47:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com >
wrote:

>ROFLMAO
>
>World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
>Bartoli 6-1 6-4.
>
>It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
>break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline and
>the service box (no exaggeration at all) and got down into her low
>butt-waggling return posture, like a cat getting ready to go after a bird,
>in an obvious intimidation-move, which worked, tactically, drawing the
>netted second serve and break she wanted, but may've back-fired a bit
>operationally or strategically in making Jankovic mad and waking her up a
>bit.
>
>Great match.
>
>And, BTW, on Bartoli's final service-game, for the match, she got to three
>match points, and on missing a serve _did not_ fiddle with any Miss Nancy
>second-serve nonsense but went for it, over one hundred miles an hour, not
>quite a complete first serve but darned close.

I thought she would make it a bit longer and lose to Zvonareva.
Looking great for my finalist prediction. Jankovic and Ivanovic out,
Safina almost out (would have been better if she lost too). Surely
Dokic isn't going to stop Vera?


  
Date: 25 Jan 2009 12:28:13
From: mimus
Subject: Re: [AO] Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:04:32 +0200, Sakari Lund wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:47:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> ROFLMAO
>>
>> World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
>> Bartoli 6-1 6-4.
>>
>> It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
>> break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline
>> and the service box (no exaggeration at all) and got down into her low
>> butt-waggling return posture, like a cat getting ready to go after a
>> bird, in an obvious intimidation-move, which worked, tactically,
>> drawing the netted second serve and break she wanted, but may've
>> back-fired a
>> bit operationally or strategically in making Jankovic mad and waking
>> her up a bit.
>>
>> Great match.
>>
>> And, BTW, on Bartoli's final service-game, for the match, she got to
>> three match points, and on missing a serve _did not_ fiddle with any
>> Miss Nancy second-serve nonsense but went for it, over one hundred
>> miles an hour, not quite a complete first serve but darned close.
>
> I thought she would make it a bit longer and lose to Zvonareva. Looking
> great for my finalist prediction. Jankovic and Ivanovic out, Safina
> almost out (would have been better if she lost too). Surely Dokic isn't
> going to stop Vera?

Don't ask me, I'm totally bewildered by the goings-on on the wimmen's side.

About the only note of normalcy is Serena still plugging along.

--

Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.




   
Date: 25 Jan 2009 19:47:54
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: [AO] Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:28:13 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com >
wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:04:32 +0200, Sakari Lund wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:47:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ROFLMAO
>>>
>>> World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
>>> Bartoli 6-1 6-4.
>>>
>>> It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
>>> break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline
>>> and the service box (no exaggeration at all) and got down into her low
>>> butt-waggling return posture, like a cat getting ready to go after a
>>> bird, in an obvious intimidation-move, which worked, tactically,
>>> drawing the netted second serve and break she wanted, but may've
>>> back-fired a
>>> bit operationally or strategically in making Jankovic mad and waking
>>> her up a bit.
>>>
>>> Great match.
>>>
>>> And, BTW, on Bartoli's final service-game, for the match, she got to
>>> three match points, and on missing a serve _did not_ fiddle with any
>>> Miss Nancy second-serve nonsense but went for it, over one hundred
>>> miles an hour, not quite a complete first serve but darned close.
>>
>> I thought she would make it a bit longer and lose to Zvonareva. Looking
>> great for my finalist prediction. Jankovic and Ivanovic out, Safina
>> almost out (would have been better if she lost too). Surely Dokic isn't
>> going to stop Vera?
>
>Don't ask me, I'm totally bewildered by the goings-on on the wimmen's side.
>
>About the only note of normalcy is Serena still plugging along.

Who is my pick to win :-) I thought I don't know either what is
going on at WTA at the moment, but actually it has gone very much as I
expected. Some surprises of course like Dokic and Suarez Navarro.


    
Date: 25 Jan 2009 22:31:40
From: mimus
Subject: Re: [AO] Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:47:54 +0200, Sakari Lund wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:28:13 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:04:32 +0200, Sakari Lund wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:47:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ROFLMAO
>>>>
>>>> World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
>>>> Bartoli 6-1 6-4.
>>>>
>>>> It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
>>>> break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline
>>>> and the service box (no exaggeration at all) and got down into her low
>>>> butt-waggling return posture, like a cat getting ready to go after a
>>>> bird, in an obvious intimidation-move, which worked, tactically,
>>>> drawing the netted second serve and break she wanted, but may've
>>>> back-fired a
>>>> bit operationally or strategically in making Jankovic mad and waking
>>>> her up a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Great match.
>>>>
>>>> And, BTW, on Bartoli's final service-game, for the match, she got to
>>>> three match points, and on missing a serve _did not_ fiddle with any
>>>> Miss Nancy second-serve nonsense but went for it, over one hundred
>>>> miles an hour, not quite a complete first serve but darned close.
>>>
>>> I thought she would make it a bit longer and lose to Zvonareva. Looking
>>> great for my finalist prediction. Jankovic and Ivanovic out, Safina
>>> almost out (would have been better if she lost too). Surely Dokic isn't
>>> going to stop Vera?
>>
>> Don't ask me, I'm totally bewildered by the goings-on on the wimmen's
>> side.
>>
>> About the only note of normalcy is Serena still plugging along.
>
> Who is my pick to win :-)

Uh-oh . . . .

--

Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.



 
Date: 25 Jan 2009 00:47:41
From: Darkfalz
Subject: Re: Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Jan 25, 12:47=A0pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> ROFLMAO
>
> World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
> Bartoli 6-1 6-4.
>
> It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
> break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline and
> the service box (no exaggeration at all) and got down into her low
> butt-waggling return posture, like a cat getting ready to go after a bird=
,
> in an obvious intimidation-move, which worked, tactically, drawing the
> netted second serve and break she wanted, but may've back-fired a bit
> operationally or strategically in making Jankovic mad and waking her up a
> bit.
>
> Great match.
>
> And, BTW, on Bartoli's final service-game, for the match, she got to thre=
e
> match points, and on missing a serve _did not_ fiddle with any Miss Nancy
> second-serve nonsense but went for it, over one hundred miles an hour, no=
t
> quite a complete first serve but darned close.
>
> --
>
> Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.

Bartoli looks slimmer. Not bad.


 
Date: 25 Jan 2009 08:59:29
From: Roger That
Subject: Re: [AO] Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
mimus a écrit :
> It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
> break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline and
> the service box (no exaggeration at all) and got down into her low
> butt-waggling return posture, like a cat getting ready to go after a bird,
> in an obvious intimidation-move, which worked, tactically

Well, that's the way she learned to play tennis, returning the serves
standing inside the court. She used to play when she was young on a
court in a gymnasium or something like that, with the wall not too far
from the baseline.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 18:24:46
From: David W
Subject: Re: Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Jan 25, 1:18=A0pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:58:36 -0800, David W wrote:
> > On Jan 25, 12:47=A0pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> ROFLMAO
>
> >> World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
> >> Bartoli 6-1 6-4.
>
> >> It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
> >> break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline =
and
> >> the service box (no exaggeration at all)
>
> > No, no exaggeration. She would have had to hit almost a half-volley
> > return.
>
> >> and got down into her low butt-waggling return posture, like a cat
> >> getting ready to go after a bird, in an obvious intimidation-move,
> >> which worked, tactically, drawing the netted second serve and break sh=
e
> >> wanted, but may've back-fired a bit operationally or strategically in
> >> making Jankovic mad and waking her up a bit.
>
> >> Great match.
>
> > From Bartoli anyway. Terrible from Jankovic. It looks really bad when
> > the no. 1 player is pushed around like that and has nearly every 2nd
> > serve punished for a winner. The no. 1 who should be doing that. She's
> > only a shadow of the 2008 JJ.
>
> What happened to those strength-exercises she was supposed to have if
> anything over-bulked-up with over the off-season? they sure didn't add
> anything to her serve or strokes.
>
> I mean, she had already amped-up her power quite a bit-- I mentioned just
> recently how I'd noticed her in the China Open last year basically
> overpowering Kuznetsova-- so I wonder what that was all about.
>
> She needs serve-improvement more than anything else, more aces and
> service-winners; her rallying has always been fine, with her wheels her
> single most outstanding asset.

Her serve was pretty good at the USO. Not big, but enough to be
effective. I remember thinking that it wasn't really a big weakness
any more. Now she's serving like a no. 100.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 18:00:28
From: David W
Subject: Re: Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Jan 25, 12:58=A0pm, David W <dw7...@gmail.com > wrote:
> The no. 1 who should be doing that.

The no. 1 should be doing that.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 17:58:36
From: David W
Subject: Re: Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Jan 25, 12:47=A0pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> ROFLMAO
>
> World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
> Bartoli 6-1 6-4.
>
> It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
> break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline and
> the service box (no exaggeration at all)

No, no exaggeration. She would have had to hit almost a half-volley
return.

> and got down into her low
> butt-waggling return posture, like a cat getting ready to go after a bird=
,
> in an obvious intimidation-move, which worked, tactically, drawing the
> netted second serve and break she wanted, but may've back-fired a bit
> operationally or strategically in making Jankovic mad and waking her up a
> bit.
>
> Great match.

From Bartoli anyway. Terrible from Jankovic. It looks really bad when
the no. 1 player is pushed around like that and has nearly every 2nd
serve punished for a winner. The no. 1 who should be doing that. She's
only a shadow of the 2008 JJ.


  
Date: 25 Jan 2009 19:05:20
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:58:36 -0800 (PST), David W <dw7654@gmail.com >
wrote:

>From Bartoli anyway. Terrible from Jankovic. It looks really bad when
>the no. 1 player is pushed around like that and has nearly every 2nd
>serve punished for a winner.

:-)


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 21:18:42
From: mimus
Subject: Re: Jankovic-Bartoli (Spoiler)
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:58:36 -0800, David W wrote:

> On Jan 25, 12:47 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ROFLMAO
>>
>> World Number One Jelena Jankovic gets mowed down by Marion "Ball-Gun"
>> Bartoli 6-1 6-4.
>>
>> It was so bad that early in the second, on Jankovic's second serve at
>> break-point, Bartoli moved forward to _half-way_ between the baseline and
>> the service box (no exaggeration at all)
>
> No, no exaggeration. She would have had to hit almost a half-volley
> return.
>
>> and got down into her low butt-waggling return posture, like a cat
>> getting ready to go after a bird, in an obvious intimidation-move,
>> which worked, tactically, drawing the netted second serve and break she
>> wanted, but may've back-fired a bit operationally or strategically in
>> making Jankovic mad and waking her up a bit.
>>
>> Great match.
>
> From Bartoli anyway. Terrible from Jankovic. It looks really bad when
> the no. 1 player is pushed around like that and has nearly every 2nd
> serve punished for a winner. The no. 1 who should be doing that. She's
> only a shadow of the 2008 JJ.

What happened to those strength-exercises she was supposed to have if
anything over-bulked-up with over the off-season? they sure didn't add
anything to her serve or strokes.

I mean, she had already amped-up her power quite a bit-- I mentioned just
recently how I'd noticed her in the China Open last year basically
overpowering Kuznetsova-- so I wonder what that was all about.

She needs serve-improvement more than anything else, more aces and
service-winners; her rallying has always been fine, with her wheels her
single most outstanding asset.

--

Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.