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Date: 13 Jan 2009 04:46:52
From:
Subject: AO classic moments
http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3381#video_location

Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for Federer-
Safin match though.

McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against Pernfors ...




 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 13:31:25
From: Raja
Subject: Re: AO classic moments
On Jan 13, 1:17=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:18:21 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> > wrote:
>
> >> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3D3381#video_location
>
> >>> Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for Federer-
> >>> Safin match though.
>
> >>> McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against Pernfors .=
..
>
> >> The Fed-Safin match was a snoozefest - only mildly interesting for abo=
ut
> >> 6 points.
>
> > No experts agree with you. None.
>
> They all do. =A0This match is already forgotten. =A0It won't get anywhere
> near even the '71 & '72 WCT finals between Rosewall v Laver.- Hide quoted=
text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

None of Sampras' matches will be remembered as well



 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 09:49:26
From:
Subject: Re: AO classic moments
On Jan 13, 12:40=A0pm, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 13, 7:17=A0am, PeteWasLucky <Waleed.Kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 13, 7:46=A0am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > >http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3D3381#video_location
>
> > > Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for Federer-
> > > Safin match though.
>
> > > McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against Pernfors .=
..
>
> > I think defaulting McEnroe was one of the best decisions that was ever
> > made, if this was repeated too many times, he would have rectified his
> > behavior.
>
> It was typical tennis, and typical Mac.
> For tennis, the default came about 11 years too late.
> Mac should have been defaulted back in 79 or so, it would have made a
> difference in his behavior. Of course, others like Connors and Nastase
> should have been defaulted earlier, but I am just referring to Mac
> here. Throw him out of one of the slams when he was young, you set a
> standard that no matter who you are, you are expected to behave.
>
> Again, for Mac, he was playing his usual game of trying to torment an
> opposing player who was playing very well that day. His 'mistake' was
> in forgetting that the rules were changed and he would be defaulted on
> the 3rd infraction, not the 4th. He thought he could continue to
> misbehave for longer. My thought is, he also did not think they would
> really default him.
>
> Problem is, all that did is taught players that as long as you are in
> your prime, you can get away with bad behavior.
>
> Kind of like Vilas and acceptance money. (Getting paid just to show
> up). Suspending him near the end of his career did not help anything.
> Suspend a few up and coming players and make it count.
>
> Rodjk #613

McEnroe wanted to be defaulted and was looking for an out so he could
spend more time with Tatum. If the venue had been Wimbledon or the US
Open, he would not have acted up and been defaulted. He knew exactly
what he was doing and played his hand that day at the AO.

He's no dummy - no one has ever manipulated the system as well as he
has, and gotten away with it. And now look, he's a commentator. lol.







  
Date: 14 Jan 2009 08:09:39
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: AO classic moments
blueskates1111@aol.com wrote:
> On Jan 13, 12:40 pm, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 13, 7:17 am, PeteWasLucky <Waleed.Kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 13, 7:46 am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3381#video_location
>>
>>>> Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for
>>>> Federer- Safin match though.
>>
>>>> McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against
>>>> Pernfors ...
>>
>>> I think defaulting McEnroe was one of the best decisions that was
>>> ever made, if this was repeated too many times, he would have
>>> rectified his behavior.
>>
>> It was typical tennis, and typical Mac.
>> For tennis, the default came about 11 years too late.
>> Mac should have been defaulted back in 79 or so, it would have made a
>> difference in his behavior. Of course, others like Connors and
>> Nastase should have been defaulted earlier, but I am just referring
>> to Mac here. Throw him out of one of the slams when he was young,
>> you set a standard that no matter who you are, you are expected to
>> behave.
>>
>> Again, for Mac, he was playing his usual game of trying to torment an
>> opposing player who was playing very well that day. His 'mistake' was
>> in forgetting that the rules were changed and he would be defaulted
>> on the 3rd infraction, not the 4th. He thought he could continue to
>> misbehave for longer. My thought is, he also did not think they would
>> really default him.
>>
>> Problem is, all that did is taught players that as long as you are in
>> your prime, you can get away with bad behavior.
>>
>> Kind of like Vilas and acceptance money. (Getting paid just to show
>> up). Suspending him near the end of his career did not help anything.
>> Suspend a few up and coming players and make it count.
>>
>> Rodjk #613
>
> McEnroe wanted to be defaulted and was looking for an out so he could
> spend more time with Tatum. If the venue had been Wimbledon or the US
> Open, he would not have acted up and been defaulted. He knew exactly
> what he was doing and played his hand that day at the AO.

I've heard differently, i.e., that he thought he had one more warning before the
default. He miscalculated.




  
Date: 14 Jan 2009 06:23:47
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: AO classic moments
blueskates1111@aol.com wrote:
> On Jan 13, 12:40 pm, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 13, 7:17 am, PeteWasLucky <Waleed.Kh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 13, 7:46 am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3381#video_location
>>>> Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for Federer-
>>>> Safin match though.
>>>> McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against Pernfors ...
>>> I think defaulting McEnroe was one of the best decisions that was ever
>>> made, if this was repeated too many times, he would have rectified his
>>> behavior.
>> It was typical tennis, and typical Mac.
>> For tennis, the default came about 11 years too late.
>> Mac should have been defaulted back in 79 or so, it would have made a
>> difference in his behavior. Of course, others like Connors and Nastase
>> should have been defaulted earlier, but I am just referring to Mac
>> here. Throw him out of one of the slams when he was young, you set a
>> standard that no matter who you are, you are expected to behave.
>>
>> Again, for Mac, he was playing his usual game of trying to torment an
>> opposing player who was playing very well that day. His 'mistake' was
>> in forgetting that the rules were changed and he would be defaulted on
>> the 3rd infraction, not the 4th. He thought he could continue to
>> misbehave for longer. My thought is, he also did not think they would
>> really default him.
>>
>> Problem is, all that did is taught players that as long as you are in
>> your prime, you can get away with bad behavior.
>>
>> Kind of like Vilas and acceptance money. (Getting paid just to show
>> up). Suspending him near the end of his career did not help anything.
>> Suspend a few up and coming players and make it count.
>>
>> Rodjk #613
>
> McEnroe wanted to be defaulted and was looking for an out so he could
> spend more time with Tatum. If the venue had been Wimbledon or the US
> Open, he would not have acted up and been defaulted. He knew exactly
> what he was doing and played his hand that day at the AO.
>
> He's no dummy - no one has ever manipulated the system as well as he
> has, and gotten away with it. And now look, he's a commentator. lol.
>
>
>
>
>




Mac was playing extremely well at that AO & was a legit shot at the title.



 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 09:40:26
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: AO classic moments
On Jan 13, 7:17=A0am, PeteWasLucky <Waleed.Kh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 13, 7:46=A0am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3D3381#video_location
>
> > Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for Federer-
> > Safin match though.
>
> > McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against Pernfors ...
>
> I think defaulting McEnroe was one of the best decisions that was ever
> made, if this was repeated too many times, he would have rectified his
> behavior.

It was typical tennis, and typical Mac.
For tennis, the default came about 11 years too late.
Mac should have been defaulted back in 79 or so, it would have made a
difference in his behavior. Of course, others like Connors and Nastase
should have been defaulted earlier, but I am just referring to Mac
here. Throw him out of one of the slams when he was young, you set a
standard that no matter who you are, you are expected to behave.

Again, for Mac, he was playing his usual game of trying to torment an
opposing player who was playing very well that day. His 'mistake' was
in forgetting that the rules were changed and he would be defaulted on
the 3rd infraction, not the 4th. He thought he could continue to
misbehave for longer. My thought is, he also did not think they would
really default him.

Problem is, all that did is taught players that as long as you are in
your prime, you can get away with bad behavior.

Kind of like Vilas and acceptance money. (Getting paid just to show
up). Suspending him near the end of his career did not help anything.
Suspend a few up and coming players and make it count.

Rodjk #613


 
Date: 14 Jan 2009 00:18:21
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: AO classic moments
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3381#video_location
>
> Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for Federer-
> Safin match though.
>
> McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against Pernfors ...


The Fed-Safin match was a snoozefest - only mildly interesting for about
6 points.



  
Date: 13 Jan 2009 15:53:01
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: AO classic moments
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:18:21 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>> http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3381#video_location
>>
>> Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for Federer-
>> Safin match though.
>>
>> McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against Pernfors ...
>
>
>The Fed-Safin match was a snoozefest - only mildly interesting for about
>6 points.

No experts agree with you. None.


   
Date: 14 Jan 2009 06:17:23
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: AO classic moments
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:18:21 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3381#video_location
>>>
>>> Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for Federer-
>>> Safin match though.
>>>
>>> McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against Pernfors ...
>>
>> The Fed-Safin match was a snoozefest - only mildly interesting for about
>> 6 points.
>
> No experts agree with you. None.


They all do. This match is already forgotten. It won't get anywhere
near even the '71 & '72 WCT finals between Rosewall v Laver.



 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 05:17:43
From: PeteWasLucky
Subject: Re: AO classic moments
On Jan 13, 7:46=A0am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://www.tennisweek.com/video/?categoryid=3D3381#video_location
>
> Snippets from various moments over the years - no place for Federer-
> Safin match though.
>
> McEnroe's face is a picture when he gets defaulted against Pernfors ...

I think defaulting McEnroe was one of the best decisions that was ever
made, if this was repeated too many times, he would have rectified his
behavior.