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Date: 10 Jan 2009 14:17:39
From: grif
Subject: Andy Murray has the measure of Roger Federer
A golden, eagle-shaped trophy, a golden ceremonial sword and a little pot of
gold - some 120,000 in cash - are the prizes on offer for the winner of
Saturday's final of the Doha tournament.

But there is another prize that Andy Murray already has in his racket-bag,
and one he received without an on-court prize-giving ceremony, as Friday
night brought confirmation that he has the measure of Roger Federer. Going
into the Doha final, and then the first grand slam of the season, this
month's Australian Open, Murray is doing an extremely good impression of
being the alpha male of the tennis world.

And that is surely worth more than any eagles, swords and cheques.

We are never going to reach the stage where Murray beating Federer, a winner
of 13 grand slam titles, is an ordinary, ho-hum result. But the shock value
has long disappeared, as Friday's match was the fifth time in seven career
meetings that Murray had got the better of Federer. And Murray also beat
Federer in last week's unofficial exhibition event in Abu Dhabi.

Since Murray lost to Federer in the US Open final, he has enjoyed four
successive victories against the Swiss, three times officially and once
unofficially. Just look at how the top four have started 2009.

Murray has shown he can handle Federer, Rafael Nadal went out in the
quarter-finals of the Doha event to Gael Monfils, and Novak Djokovic, the
Australian Open champion, intimated after losing his opening match in
Brisbane to Latvia's Ernests Gulbis that he is still readjusting his game
after switching racket companies, from Wilson to Head.

Murray, though, appears to have both his head and his Head right, especially
against a man he regards as probably the greatest tennis player of all time.

There had been smiles and laughter from both Murray and Federer during their
knockabout match in Abu Dhabi, but a semi-final in Doha was an altogether
more serious affair, and one that Federer plainly wanted to win.

After Friday night's result, Federer will not enjoy reading his head-to-head
record against two of the other members of the 'Gang of Four' - as well as
his 2-5 sequence against Murray, he has won just six times from his 18
meetings with Nadal.

At least Federer has had a more positive experience against Djokovic, with
seven victories from their nine matches. But are we perhaps overestimating
the significance of the tennis played on a mauve court in Qatar? How much
will any of this matter when Murray, Federer and the rest reach the bright
blue Plexicushion of Melbourne?

Last year, Murray's success in Qatar did not count for much at the
Australian Open, when he was beaten in the first round by Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
(although Tsonga went on to reach the final). And Murray would probably swap
all his wins against Federer in smaller tournaments to have trumped Federer
in New York City last September.

For Murray, all that matters now is trying to win a first slam title.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/andymurray/4210235/Andy-Murray-has-the-measure-of-Roger-Federer.html





 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 08:04:07
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Andy Murray has the measure of Roger Federer
Murray is another one of those players that keep rallying behind the
baseline waiting for an error from his opponent.
Federer lost the match but the result was decided by him and his style
of play.
In the important match when it matters the most, Federer will serve
much better and play with the right balance of offence and defense (he
does not play defense tennis in the minor tournaments).
Also Murray will get caught in a match with an opponent that has no
problems rallying 1000 shots in every point.



  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 09:33:51
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Andy Murray has the measure of Roger Federer
On Jan 10, 11:47=A0am, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> "wkhedr" <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> news:73426012-e2da-40bd-83ad-cd05888ba5b8@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 10, 11:27 am, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "wkhedr" <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:51e18b88-fa5d-45d2-ae7f-0c02438bfae5@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com..=
.
>
> > > Murray is another one of those players that keep rallying behind the
> > > baseline waiting for an error from his opponent.
> > > Federer lost the match but the result was decided by him and his styl=
e
> > > of play.
> > > In the important match when it matters the most, Federer will serve
> > > much better and play with the right balance of offence and defense (h=
e
> > > does not play defense tennis in the minor tournaments).
> > > Also Murray will get caught in a match with an opponent that has no
> > > problems rallying 1000 shots in every point.
>
> > I've seen this so many times when players play the Scot: Murray slowly,
> > very
> > slowly, drains the life and resistance out of them. After a while, they
> > have
> > that look of despair about them. Only the strongest of wills can overco=
me
> > this.
>
> "It drains the life out of him too."
>
> Rafa does a similar thing in breaking down resistance, but he tends to do=
it
> on a clay court by physically wearing the guy down. With Murray, it's not
> quite the same. The Scot probably anticipates/reads the game better than
> anyone out there and seems to have an answer for just about anything his
> opponent can throw at him. Consequently, guys just aren't really sure how=
to
> play him or what to expect; they become more and more frustrated.- Hide q=
uoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So far so good for the last 3-4 months, now it's time to do it in a
slam. Last year he went to AO after winning Doha to lose in the first
round.

I believe it will be a different match if he has to face Federer in
the SF in a slam, this is provided both of them make it that far.

As I said in another post, outside slams Federer doesn't play
defensive tennis, he just plays aggressive tennis to tune his
aggressive game and avoid getting tired or injured playing defensive
game.

In a slam, he will put the right mix to win a match.





  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 08:32:39
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Andy Murray has the measure of Roger Federer
On Jan 10, 11:27=A0am, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> "wkhedr" <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> news:51e18b88-fa5d-45d2-ae7f-0c02438bfae5@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Murray is another one of those players that keep rallying behind the
> > baseline waiting for an error from his opponent.
> > Federer lost the match but the result was decided by him and his style
> > of play.
> > In the important match when it matters the most, Federer will serve
> > much better and play with the right balance of offence and defense (he
> > does not play defense tennis in the minor tournaments).
> > Also Murray will get caught in a match with an opponent that has no
> > problems rallying 1000 shots in every point.
>
> I've seen this so many times when players play the Scot: Murray slowly, v=
ery
> slowly, drains the life and resistance out of them. After a while, they h=
ave
> that look of despair about them. Only the strongest of wills can overcome
> this.

It drains the life out of him too.


   
Date: 10 Jan 2009 16:47:25
From: grif
Subject: Re: Andy Murray has the measure of Roger Federer

"wkhedr" <wkhedr@my-deja.com > wrote in message
news:73426012-e2da-40bd-83ad-cd05888ba5b8@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 10, 11:27 am, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> "wkhedr" <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> news:51e18b88-fa5d-45d2-ae7f-0c02438bfae5@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Murray is another one of those players that keep rallying behind the
> > baseline waiting for an error from his opponent.
> > Federer lost the match but the result was decided by him and his style
> > of play.
> > In the important match when it matters the most, Federer will serve
> > much better and play with the right balance of offence and defense (he
> > does not play defense tennis in the minor tournaments).
> > Also Murray will get caught in a match with an opponent that has no
> > problems rallying 1000 shots in every point.
>
> I've seen this so many times when players play the Scot: Murray slowly,
> very
> slowly, drains the life and resistance out of them. After a while, they
> have
> that look of despair about them. Only the strongest of wills can overcome
> this.

"It drains the life out of him too."

Rafa does a similar thing in breaking down resistance, but he tends to do it
on a clay court by physically wearing the guy down. With Murray, it's not
quite the same. The Scot probably anticipates/reads the game better than
anyone out there and seems to have an answer for just about anything his
opponent can throw at him. Consequently, guys just aren't really sure how to
play him or what to expect; they become more and more frustrated.





  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 16:27:55
From: grif
Subject: Re: Andy Murray has the measure of Roger Federer

"wkhedr" <wkhedr@my-deja.com > wrote in message
news:51e18b88-fa5d-45d2-ae7f-0c02438bfae5@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> Murray is another one of those players that keep rallying behind the
> baseline waiting for an error from his opponent.
> Federer lost the match but the result was decided by him and his style
> of play.
> In the important match when it matters the most, Federer will serve
> much better and play with the right balance of offence and defense (he
> does not play defense tennis in the minor tournaments).
> Also Murray will get caught in a match with an opponent that has no
> problems rallying 1000 shots in every point.
>

I've seen this so many times when players play the Scot: Murray slowly, very
slowly, drains the life and resistance out of them. After a while, they have
that look of despair about them. Only the strongest of wills can overcome
this.



 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 07:24:03
From:
Subject: Re: Andy Murray has the measure of Roger Federer
On Jan 10, 8:17=A0am, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> A golden, eagle-shaped trophy, a golden ceremonial sword and a little pot=
of
> gold - some =A3120,000 in cash - are the prizes on offer for the winner o=
f
> Saturday's final of the Doha tournament.
>
> But there is another prize that Andy Murray already has in his racket-bag=
,
> and one he received without an on-court prize-giving ceremony, as Friday
> night brought confirmation that he has the measure of Roger Federer. Goin=
g
> into the Doha final, and then the first grand slam of the season, this
> month's Australian Open, Murray is doing an extremely good impression of
> being the alpha male of the tennis world.
>
> And that is surely worth more than any eagles, swords and cheques.
>
> We are never going to reach the stage where Murray beating Federer, a win=
ner
> of 13 grand slam titles, is an ordinary, ho-hum result. But the shock val=
ue
> has long disappeared, as Friday's match was the fifth time in seven caree=
r
> meetings that Murray had got the better of Federer. And Murray also beat
> Federer in last week's unofficial exhibition event in Abu Dhabi.
>
> Since Murray lost to Federer in the US Open final, he has enjoyed four
> successive victories against the Swiss, three times officially and once
> unofficially. Just look at how the top four have started 2009.
>
> Murray has shown he can handle Federer, Rafael Nadal went out in the
> quarter-finals of the Doha event to Gael Monfils, and Novak Djokovic, the
> Australian Open champion, intimated after losing his opening match in
> Brisbane to Latvia's Ernests Gulbis that he is still readjusting his game
> after switching racket companies, from Wilson to Head.
>
> Murray, though, appears to have both his head and his Head right, especia=
lly
> against a man he regards as probably the greatest tennis player of all ti=
me.
>
> There had been smiles and laughter from both Murray and Federer during th=
eir
> knockabout match in Abu Dhabi, but a semi-final in Doha was an altogether
> more serious affair, and one that Federer plainly wanted to win.
>
> After Friday night's result, Federer will not enjoy reading his head-to-h=
ead
> record against two of the other members of the 'Gang of Four' - as well a=
s
> his 2-5 sequence against Murray, he has won just six times from his 18
> meetings with Nadal.
>
> At least Federer has had a more positive experience against Djokovic, wit=
h
> seven victories from their nine matches. But are we perhaps overestimatin=
g
> the significance of the tennis played on a mauve court in Qatar? How much
> will any of this matter when Murray, Federer and the rest reach the brigh=
t
> blue Plexicushion of Melbourne?
>
> Last year, Murray's success in Qatar did not count for much at the
> Australian Open, when he was beaten in the first round by Jo-Wilfried Tso=
nga
> (although Tsonga went on to reach the final). And Murray would probably s=
wap
> all his wins against Federer in smaller tournaments to have trumped Feder=
er
> in New York City last September.
>
> For Murray, all that matters now is trying to win a first slam title.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/andymurray/4210235/Andy-Murra...

Go Murray!