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Date: 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58
From: bg
Subject: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
after the first 2 TBs were split.
bg




 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 08:31:44
From: Patrick Kehoe
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Jan 22, 7:03=A0am, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net > wrote:
> Sakari Lund wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:50:05 -0600, Trevor Smithson
> > <trevor_smith...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
> >> <ljubit...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set T=
B
> >>>>> after the first 2 TBs were split.
> >>>>> bg
> >>>> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
> >>>> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...=
)
>
> >>>> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three se=
t
> >>>> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>
> >>>> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
> >>>> the best of the young guys =A0:-)
> >>> Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 player
> >>> at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the new
> >>> generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D
> >> God that was some match to watch.
>
> > Yes, they could think about putting matches like this as night
> > matches. Does it always have to be the absolute top players or
> > Aussies? Now there has been Nadal - Rochus which was a total joke as a
> > match, and Murray - Granollers which was a total bore.
>
> What would you do if you were running the tournament? It is not as if
> there aren't many no-big-name matches that are also totally boring
> and/or one-sided.
>
> Early round night sessions with the limited match play are tougher sells
> that may require big/local names.
>
> Dokic-Wozniacki & Federer-Safin could prove interesting from name, local
> interest and game perspectives.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> vc- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

++ Bottom line is fans WANT to see Federer first, Nadal second, guy of
the moment - right now Murray third, Aussies fourth and then everyone
else... and Tsonga could just as easily have come on court to a Lubo
who went out 3,3 and 1 or something... one never knows... but
broadcasters have to preview and sell events and you do that with
stars... that's the business of sports... you just HOPE that you get
really good second week match ups... :))

P



 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 08:28:27
From: Patrick Kehoe
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Jan 22, 6:35=A0am, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 22, 6:48=A0am, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
> > >after the first 2 TBs were split.
> > >bg
>
> > Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
> > long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>
> > He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
> > points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>
> > Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
> > the best of the young guys =A0:-)
>
> Time for another Ljubicic Futility Update(TM). Last one was here:http://g=
roups.google.com/group/rec.sport.tennis/browse_thread/thread/...
>
> Ljubicic has played in the main draw of 37 slams. He lost in R1/R2 27
> times. He lost in R1/R2/R3 34 times.
>
> Joe Ramirez

++ POOR LUBO... :)))

P


 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 08:34:33
From: Patrick Kehoe
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Jan 22, 7:28=A0am, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net > wrote:
> Sakari Lund wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:03:30 GMT, "Vari L. Cinicke"
> > <cini...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >> Sakari Lund wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:50:05 -0600, Trevor Smithson
> >>> <trevor_smith...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
> >>>> <ljubit...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set=
TB
> >>>>>>> after the first 2 TBs were split.
> >>>>>>> bg
> >>>>>> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
> >>>>>> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time.=
..)
>
> >>>>>> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three =
set
> >>>>>> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>
> >>>>>> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one =
of
> >>>>>> the best of the young guys =A0:-)
> >>>>> Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 play=
er
> >>>>> at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the n=
ew
> >>>>> generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D
> >>>> God that was some match to watch.
> >>> Yes, they could think about putting matches like this as night
> >>> matches. Does it always have to be the absolute top players or
> >>> Aussies? Now there has been Nadal - Rochus which was a total joke as =
a
> >>> match, and Murray - Granollers which was a total bore.
>
> >> What would you do if you were running the tournament? It is not as if
> >> there aren't many no-big-name matches that are also totally boring
> >> and/or one-sided.
>
> >> Early round night sessions with the limited match play are tougher sel=
ls
> >> that may require big/local names.
>
> >> Dokic-Wozniacki & Federer-Safin could prove interesting from name, loc=
al
> >> interest and game perspectives.
>
> > That's a great night session.
>
> Someone on ESPN likes Safin:
>
> "No. 2 Roger Federer vs. No. 26 Marat Safin: This is a really
> interesting match between the guy destined to be the best ever player --
> that would be Federer -- and the guy who had the talent, but not the
> head, to be Federer's closest challenger through the years. Federer is a
> consistent performer who is comfortable with every shot in the book.
> Safin is the kind of guy who can look like the best player in the world
> one day and the worst player in the world the next. Symmetry suggests
> Safin should win on Friday: Federer won their first three outings before
> Safin captured their quarterfinal match at the 2002 Moscow tournament.
> Then Federer won their next three matches before Safin won their
> five-set, semifinal thriller here in 2005. And you guessed it, Federer's
> now won three straight, so guess who should be the winner?
>
> ESPN.com prediction: Safin in five. (Who can argue with that math?)"
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> vc

++ May the better man (on the day/night) win but the organizers and
sponsers don't want Roger packed off on the first week... that's for
SURE...

P



 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 06:35:44
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Jan 22, 6:48=A0am, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
> >after the first 2 TBs were split.
> >bg
>
> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>
> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>
> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
> the best of the young guys =A0:-)

Time for another Ljubicic Futility Update(TM). Last one was here:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.tennis/browse_thread/thread/74c17d=
c81ff59903?q=3Dljubicic

Ljubicic has played in the main draw of 37 slams. He lost in R1/R2 27
times. He lost in R1/R2/R3 34 times.

Joe Ramirez


 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
> >after the first 2 TBs were split.
> >bg
>
> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>
> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>
> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
> the best of the young guys =A0:-)

Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 player
at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the new
generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D


  
Date: 22 Jan 2009 07:50:05
From: Trevor Smithson
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
<ljubitsis@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
>> >after the first 2 TBs were split.
>> >bg
>>
>> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
>> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>>
>> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
>> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>>
>> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
>> the best of the young guys  :-)
>
>Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 player
>at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the new
>generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D

God that was some match to watch.


   
Date: 22 Jan 2009 16:32:24
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:50:05 -0600, Trevor Smithson
<trevor_smithson@yahoo.com > wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
><ljubitsis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
>>> >after the first 2 TBs were split.
>>> >bg
>>>
>>> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
>>> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>>>
>>> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
>>> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>>>
>>> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
>>> the best of the young guys  :-)
>>
>>Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 player
>>at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the new
>>generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D
>
>God that was some match to watch.

Yes, they could think about putting matches like this as night
matches. Does it always have to be the absolute top players or
Aussies? Now there has been Nadal - Rochus which was a total joke as a
match, and Murray - Granollers which was a total bore.




    
Date: 22 Jan 2009 15:03:30
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:50:05 -0600, Trevor Smithson
> <trevor_smithson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
>> <ljubitsis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
>>>>> after the first 2 TBs were split.
>>>>> bg
>>>> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
>>>> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>>>>
>>>> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
>>>> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>>>>
>>>> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
>>>> the best of the young guys :-)
>>> Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 player
>>> at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the new
>>> generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D
>> God that was some match to watch.
>
> Yes, they could think about putting matches like this as night
> matches. Does it always have to be the absolute top players or
> Aussies? Now there has been Nadal - Rochus which was a total joke as a
> match, and Murray - Granollers which was a total bore.
>
>

What would you do if you were running the tournament? It is not as if
there aren't many no-big-name matches that are also totally boring
and/or one-sided.

Early round night sessions with the limited match play are tougher sells
that may require big/local names.

Dokic-Wozniacki & Federer-Safin could prove interesting from name, local
interest and game perspectives.

--
Cheers,

vc


     
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:47:37
From: Edward McArdle
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
In article <6V%dl.307566$Mh5.209090@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net >,
"Vari L. Cinicke" <cinicke@netscape.net > wrote:

>Sakari Lund wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:50:05 -0600, Trevor Smithson
>> <trevor_smithson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
>>> <ljubitsis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
>>>>>> after the first 2 TBs were split.
>>>>>> bg
>>>>> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
>>>>> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>>>>>
>>>>> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
>>>>> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
>>>>> the best of the young guys :-)
>>>> Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 player
>>>> at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the new
>>>> generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D
>>> God that was some match to watch.
>>
>> Yes, they could think about putting matches like this as night
>> matches. Does it always have to be the absolute top players or
>> Aussies? Now there has been Nadal - Rochus which was a total joke as a
>> match, and Murray - Granollers which was a total bore.
>>
>>
>
>What would you do if you were running the tournament? It is not as if
>there aren't many no-big-name matches that are also totally boring
>and/or one-sided.
>
>Early round night sessions with the limited match play are tougher sells
>that may require big/local names.
>
>Dokic-Wozniacki & Federer-Safin could prove interesting from name, local
>interest and game perspectives.

As a local, I have been going during the day* and watching the night
matches on TV. But not everybody is retired or on holiday. I was surprised
that the stadium seems to be completely full for the evening sessions.
During the day it is generally about two-thirds full, probably because
people get tired of cooking in the sun.

* Not that anyone cares, but (a) I only go up to the second Monday. After
that it gets too expensive for too few matches, and (b) I made the mistake
of buying a four-day set of tickets for the Rod Laver Arena, and spent
most of my time wandering around outside. A ticket in the back tier, which
is all I could get, is so far from the play that I lost interest, but
eventually you still end up in the sun. The HiSense Arena is much better,
because you can't be *too* far away.

--
Edward McArdle


     
Date: 22 Jan 2009 17:17:38
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:03:30 GMT, "Vari L. Cinicke"
<cinicke@netscape.net > wrote:

>Sakari Lund wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:50:05 -0600, Trevor Smithson
>> <trevor_smithson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
>>> <ljubitsis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
>>>>>> after the first 2 TBs were split.
>>>>>> bg
>>>>> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
>>>>> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>>>>>
>>>>> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
>>>>> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
>>>>> the best of the young guys :-)
>>>> Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 player
>>>> at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the new
>>>> generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D
>>> God that was some match to watch.
>>
>> Yes, they could think about putting matches like this as night
>> matches. Does it always have to be the absolute top players or
>> Aussies? Now there has been Nadal - Rochus which was a total joke as a
>> match, and Murray - Granollers which was a total bore.
>>
>>
>
>What would you do if you were running the tournament? It is not as if
>there aren't many no-big-name matches that are also totally boring
>and/or one-sided.
>
>Early round night sessions with the limited match play are tougher sells
>that may require big/local names.
>
>Dokic-Wozniacki & Federer-Safin could prove interesting from name, local
>interest and game perspectives.

That's a great night session.




      
Date: 22 Jan 2009 15:28:08
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:03:30 GMT, "Vari L. Cinicke"
> <cinicke@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> Sakari Lund wrote:
>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:50:05 -0600, Trevor Smithson
>>> <trevor_smithson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
>>>> <ljubitsis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
>>>>>>> after the first 2 TBs were split.
>>>>>>> bg
>>>>>> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
>>>>>> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
>>>>>> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
>>>>>> the best of the young guys :-)
>>>>> Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 player
>>>>> at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the new
>>>>> generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D
>>>> God that was some match to watch.
>>> Yes, they could think about putting matches like this as night
>>> matches. Does it always have to be the absolute top players or
>>> Aussies? Now there has been Nadal - Rochus which was a total joke as a
>>> match, and Murray - Granollers which was a total bore.
>>>
>>>
>> What would you do if you were running the tournament? It is not as if
>> there aren't many no-big-name matches that are also totally boring
>> and/or one-sided.
>>
>> Early round night sessions with the limited match play are tougher sells
>> that may require big/local names.
>>
>> Dokic-Wozniacki & Federer-Safin could prove interesting from name, local
>> interest and game perspectives.
>
> That's a great night session.
>
>

Someone on ESPN likes Safin:

"No. 2 Roger Federer vs. No. 26 Marat Safin: This is a really
interesting match between the guy destined to be the best ever player --
that would be Federer -- and the guy who had the talent, but not the
head, to be Federer's closest challenger through the years. Federer is a
consistent performer who is comfortable with every shot in the book.
Safin is the kind of guy who can look like the best player in the world
one day and the worst player in the world the next. Symmetry suggests
Safin should win on Friday: Federer won their first three outings before
Safin captured their quarterfinal match at the 2002 Moscow tournament.
Then Federer won their next three matches before Safin won their
five-set, semifinal thriller here in 2005. And you guessed it, Federer's
now won three straight, so guess who should be the winner?

ESPN.com prediction: Safin in five. (Who can argue with that math?)"

--
Cheers,

vc


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 01:21:47
From: john
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**

"Trevor Smithson" <trevor_smithson@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:sbugn4lellcqidtbj10u7bmfd8gu50038a@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:37:18 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
> <ljubitsis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 22 jan, 12:48, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
>>> >after the first 2 TBs were split.
>>> >bg
>>>
>>> Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
>>> long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)
>>>
>>> He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
>>> points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.
>>>
>>> Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
>>> the best of the young guys :-)
>>
>>Especially considering the Federa guy never even beat a top 10 player
>>at a slam, but the young guy didn't just beat the greatest of the new
>>generation (at peak) in a slam but totally ripped him apart :D
>
> God that was some match to watch.

It was a good match. Ljub got a huge serve and a brilliant backhand and hit
some very
big cross court single handed backhand ( a rarity in today's game with most
of the players
using double handed backhand). It is very easy to see why Ljub was in top
10 a few years
ago and when he plays well he certainly has the game to compete with the
young guys.




 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 13:48:15
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:14:58 -0800 (PST), bg <ecy0004@gmail.com >
wrote:

>Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
>after the first 2 TBs were split.
>bg

Ljubicic played really well. Haven't seen him play this well for a
long time. (Although haven't seen him play at all for a long time...)

He won the first set, had a set point in the second TB, and three set
points in the third set TB, so could have easily won the match.

Not bad for a Federer era guy way past his best years against one of
the best of the young guys :-)


 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 01:46:14
From: I_like_2_travel
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On 22 Jan, 01:37, I_like_2_travel <mr.nar...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 22 Jan, 01:22, bg <ecy0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 22, 2:18 pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>
> > > "bg" <ecy0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:328eac07-3e69-4438-b74d-c526c1759880@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
> > > > after the first 2 TBs were split.
> > > > bg
>
> > > Tsonga wins 9-7 in an epic tiebreaker, he was down 6-3 and played some
> > > miraculous shots to win it.
>
> > Classical Ljubicic choke job!!!
> > bg
>
> any urls for this match.. espn360 as expected is showing either
> V.williams
> or Blake only. thanks

never mind.. Tsonga just won in 4 sets.


  
Date: 22 Jan 2009 21:52:53
From: Edward McArdle
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
In article
<59e93d1a-00b6-4ec1-b3e0-3fe220b9b111@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com >,
I_like_2_travel <mr.narasi@gmail.com > wrote:

>On 22 Jan, 01:37, I_like_2_travel <mr.nar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 22 Jan, 01:22, bg <ecy0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Jan 22, 2:18 pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > "bg" <ecy0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > >news:328eac07-3e69-4438-b74d-c526c1759880@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > > Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
>> > > > after the first 2 TBs were split.
>> > > > bg
>>
>> > > Tsonga wins 9-7 in an epic tiebreaker, he was down 6-3 and played some
>> > > miraculous shots to win it.
>>
>> > Classical Ljubicic choke job!!!
>> > bg
>>
>> any urls for this match.. espn360 as expected is showing either
>> V.williams
>> or Blake only. thanks
>
>never mind.. Tsonga just won in 4 sets.

I saw thw first set. Ljubicic was wearing a shirt the same colour as the
ballkids and the umpire, while Tsonga was wearing a fluorescent yellow
shirt (like a lot of other players) which made him look like the security
men.

And the tennis was quite good too.

--
Edward McArdle


 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 01:37:37
From: I_like_2_travel
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On 22 Jan, 01:22, bg <ecy0...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 22, 2:18 pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>
> > "bg" <ecy0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:328eac07-3e69-4438-b74d-c526c1759880@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
> > > after the first 2 TBs were split.
> > > bg
>
> > Tsonga wins 9-7 in an epic tiebreaker, he was down 6-3 and played some
> > miraculous shots to win it.
>
> Classical Ljubicic choke job!!!
> bg

any urls for this match.. espn360 as expected is showing either
V.williams
or Blake only. thanks


 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 01:22:43
From: bg
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Jan 22, 2:18=A0pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com > wrote:
> "bg" <ecy0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:328eac07-3e69-4438-b74d-c526c1759880@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
> > after the first 2 TBs were split.
> > bg
>
> Tsonga wins 9-7 in an epic tiebreaker, he was down 6-3 and played some
> miraculous shots to win it.

Classical Ljubicic choke job!!!
bg


 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 01:22:03
From: bg
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
On Jan 22, 2:18=A0pm, "john" <jli...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> "bg" <ecy0...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:328eac07-3e69-4438-b74d-c526c1759880@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
> > after the first 2 TBs were split.
> > bg
>
> Total points won Ljub 122 Tsonga 119 after 3 sets. =A0Ljub won more point=
s in
> the first two sets but trails 1:2 and he
> blew his chance of taking a 2:1 lead after having 3 set points at 6:3 in =
3rd
> set tiebreak.

Even other stats like serve percentages, winners, errors, aces, etc
are very very similar. It seems as if both are playing very similar
styles.
bg


 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 20:18:15
From: john
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**

"bg" <ecy0004@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:328eac07-3e69-4438-b74d-c526c1759880@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
> after the first 2 TBs were split.
> bg

Total points won Ljub 122 Tsonga 119 after 3 sets. Ljub won more points in
the first two sets but trails 1:2 and he
blew his chance of taking a 2:1 lead after having 3 set points at 6:3 in 3rd
set tiebreak.




 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 09:18:30
From: Stapler
Subject: Re: Anyone watching Ljubicic-Tsonga? **SPOILER**
"bg" <ecy0004@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:328eac07-3e69-4438-b74d-c526c1759880@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> Hardly anything to choose even from the stats. Into the third set TB
> after the first 2 TBs were split.
> bg


Tsonga wins 9-7 in an epic tiebreaker, he was down 6-3 and played some
miraculous shots to win it.