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Date: 01 Feb 2009 21:12:41
From:
Subject: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
.. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
in the post match interviews..

"... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
mercy.
Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".




 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 14:49:29
From:
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 2, 12:52=A0am, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:43=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 11:33=A0pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 1, 11:12=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humor=
ous
> > > > in the post match interviews..
>
> > > > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > > > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile.=
I
> > > > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > > > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > > > mercy.
> > > > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant.=
".
>
> > > He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he sai=
d
> > > "I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all". Feeling bad for
> > > Roddick when you beat him routinely is one thing, beating someone in =
5
> > > in slam finals is another...
>
> > this is Federina rubbing it in after beating Roddick..http://www.youtub=
e.com/watch?v=3DWUi7Is7H54M
> > Karma is a b*tch isn't it?
>
> Do you remember when Nadal beat Fed in Dubai, the announcer mentioned
> how Nadal leads the rivalry 3-1, and Fed quickly said, "And even that
> was lucky". I always liked his honesty and frankness - I will take it
> any day over fake modesty.

Imo Fed isn't always honest. I think he makes comments that are the
product of his inability to rein in his frustration. One example is
after the 2007 FO final, there was an interview by some small media
outlet and they asked him if he thought Rafa had made improvements in
his game over the past 12 months. Fed snapped something like "No, I
don't think he's improved. He's still hitting the ball 5 meters over
the net and waiting for the mistake and that works on clay but not so
much on other surfaces." Then, a few weeks later, after the Wimbledon
final, they interviewed him on TV (much bigger audience) and he says
"He improved again!"

And as far as the merits of honesty, I agree no one wants to hear some
blatant lie like "I played the match of my life but what can you do
against Rafa!" But there is such a thing as tact and I don't think
it's appropriate to say things like the "better player doesn't always
win" right after Rafa wins the AO even if he does believe it.

If someone invites you and your wife for dinner and makes chicken and
then makes some comment like "I hope you like it, it's a new recipe
I'm trying out," do you respond, "well honestly it was probably the
worst chicken I've eaten in the past year, but I'm sure you'll do
better next time!" I mean after all, what's wrong with that comment
right? You're only being honest.


 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 14:15:56
From:
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 2, 5:12=A0am, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
> in the post match interviews..
>
> "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> mercy.
> Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".

You keep quoting statements made by someone else, but never indicate
where these come from. Why do you do that?



 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 14:12:55
From:
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 2, 9:37=A0pm, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On =A02-Feb-2009, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > kaennorsing wrote:
> > > On 2 feb, 13:34, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> > >> RahimAsif wrote:
>
> > >>> He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he s=
aid
> > >>> "I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all".
> > >> Strange interpretation. How in the hell does that suggest he was
> > >> feeling
> > >> sorry for Rafa?
>
> > > Obviously he was indicating Rafa had a great future and was going to
> > > be even more succesful than he already was. Capable even, of winning
> > > "them all".
>
> > > How does it suggest he wasn't feeling sorry for Rafa? Since Roger is
> > > very reserved about making out complements (according to you) would
> > > this be the kind of complement you'd expect him to make if he didn't
> > > feel at least some empathy for Rafa?
>
> > Nadal looked quite pissed when Roger said that. It could also seen as a
> > dig.
>
> Explain how?

Because Federer said it ...



 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 14:10:31
From:
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 2, 12:27=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:33:35 -0800 (PST), RahimAsif
>
> <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
> >"I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all".
>
> Did he say that? Ouch...

Yep - something like "I'm glad to have my time before Rafa starts
winning them all".



 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 07:20:07
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 2, 10:06=A0am, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 8:49=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 2, 12:12=A0am, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorou=
s
> > > in the post match interviews..
>
> > > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> > > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > > mercy.
> > > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. "=
.
>
> > Your post is useless. No matter what the winner does or says, it won't
> > comfort the loser. This is sports and there is a winner and a loser.
> > If I remember in Wimbledon 2007 or 2006, Federer said that Nadal
> > deserve the trophy too and he is happy to get this one before he
> > starts to get them all.
>
> the point is (and I'm not surprized you missed it)... Roddick is one
> of many players on ATP who can teach Federer about showing some class
> and be graceful in a loss and not ruin the winner's moment.- Hide quoted =
text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Asking Federer to be Roddick is useless again.


 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 07:06:27
From:
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 2, 8:49=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Feb 2, 12:12=A0am, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
> > in the post match interviews..
>
> > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > mercy.
> > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".
>
> Your post is useless. No matter what the winner does or says, it won't
> comfort the loser. This is sports and there is a winner and a loser.
> If I remember in Wimbledon 2007 or 2006, Federer said that Nadal
> deserve the trophy too and he is happy to get this one before he
> starts to get them all.

the point is (and I'm not surprized you missed it)... Roddick is one
of many players on ATP who can teach Federer about showing some class
and be graceful in a loss and not ruin the winner's moment.


 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 06:49:44
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 2, 12:12=A0am, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
> in the post match interviews..
>
> "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> mercy.
> Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".

Your post is useless. No matter what the winner does or says, it won't
comfort the loser. This is sports and there is a winner and a loser.
If I remember in Wimbledon 2007 or 2006, Federer said that Nadal
deserve the trophy too and he is happy to get this one before he
starts to get them all.



 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 05:36:26
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On 2 feb, 13:34, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> RahimAsif wrote:
>
> > He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
> > "I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all".
>
> Strange interpretation. How in the hell does that suggest he was feeling
> sorry for Rafa?

Obviously he was indicating Rafa had a great future and was going to
be even more succesful than he already was. Capable even, of winning
"them all".

How does it suggest he wasn't feeling sorry for Rafa? Since Roger is
very reserved about making out complements (according to you) would
this be the kind of complement you'd expect him to make if he didn't
feel at least some empathy for Rafa?


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 16:07:42
From: TT
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
kaennorsing wrote:
> On 2 feb, 13:34, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> RahimAsif wrote:
>>
>>> He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
>>> "I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all".
>> Strange interpretation. How in the hell does that suggest he was feeling
>> sorry for Rafa?
>
> Obviously he was indicating Rafa had a great future and was going to
> be even more succesful than he already was. Capable even, of winning
> "them all".
>
> How does it suggest he wasn't feeling sorry for Rafa? Since Roger is
> very reserved about making out complements (according to you) would
> this be the kind of complement you'd expect him to make if he didn't
> feel at least some empathy for Rafa?

Nadal looked quite pissed when Roger said that. It could also seen as a dig.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


   
Date: 02 Feb 2009 21:37:58
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...

On 2-Feb-2009, TT <gold@Olympics.org > wrote:

> kaennorsing wrote:
> > On 2 feb, 13:34, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >> RahimAsif wrote:
> >>
> >>> He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
> >>> "I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all".
> >> Strange interpretation. How in the hell does that suggest he was
> >> feeling
> >> sorry for Rafa?
> >
> > Obviously he was indicating Rafa had a great future and was going to
> > be even more succesful than he already was. Capable even, of winning
> > "them all".
> >
> > How does it suggest he wasn't feeling sorry for Rafa? Since Roger is
> > very reserved about making out complements (according to you) would
> > this be the kind of complement you'd expect him to make if he didn't
> > feel at least some empathy for Rafa?
>
> Nadal looked quite pissed when Roger said that. It could also seen as a
> dig.

Explain how?


 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 14:17:06
From: TT
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
tennis41ife@yahoo.com wrote:
> .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
> in the post match interviews..

One wouldn't expect Roddick to be crying publicly after losing a match.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 21:57:36
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 1, 11:43=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:33=A0pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 11:12=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorou=
s
> > > in the post match interviews..
>
> > > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> > > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > > mercy.
> > > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. "=
.
>
> > He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
> > "I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all". Feeling bad for
> > Roddick when you beat him routinely is one thing, beating someone in 5
> > in slam finals is another...
>
> this is Federina rubbing it in after beating Roddick..http://www.youtube.=
com/watch?v=3DWUi7Is7H54M
> Karma is a b*tch isn't it?

lol. you are right. Succcess has got into the SOB's head. I am not
supporting him anymore.




 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 21:56:42
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 1, 11:26=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:19=A0pm, Gerry <gesunel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 2, 4:12=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorou=
s
> > > in the post match interviews..
>
> > > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> > > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > > mercy.
> > > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. "=
.
>
> > Source?
>
> ...
> ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
> anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better player
> always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.

Okay that was very assaholic. I am beginning to hate him. He deserves
not to equal Sampras record.


>
> You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the first
> place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
> played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
> him.
> ...
>
> http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2009-02-01/200902...
>
> mark the emphasis on "Not usually the better player always wins.... I
> kind of handed it over to him.".



 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 21:52:28
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 1, 11:43=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:33=A0pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 11:12=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorou=
s
> > > in the post match interviews..
>
> > > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> > > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > > mercy.
> > > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. "=
.
>
> > He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
> > "I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all". Feeling bad for
> > Roddick when you beat him routinely is one thing, beating someone in 5
> > in slam finals is another...
>
> this is Federina rubbing it in after beating Roddick..http://www.youtube.=
com/watch?v=3DWUi7Is7H54M
> Karma is a b*tch isn't it?

Do you remember when Nadal beat Fed in Dubai, the announcer mentioned
how Nadal leads the rivalry 3-1, and Fed quickly said, "And even that
was lucky". I always liked his honesty and frankness - I will take it
any day over fake modesty.It was a fun moment - and Roddick sure has a
lot of liking for Fed - saying the other day he was happy that Fed won
the US Open. And by the way, that interview took place in 2004, right
before Fed started his 3 times 3 slams a year run. Karma sure took a
long time to come around, and struck right when most champs decline
anyway...


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 14:31:03
From: TT
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
RahimAsif wrote:

> Do you remember when Nadal beat Fed in Dubai, the announcer mentioned
> how Nadal leads the rivalry 3-1, and Fed quickly said, "And even that
> was lucky". I always liked his honesty and frankness - I will take it
> any day over fake modesty


But it's exactly those kind of comments that tells us his modesty is
100% false. He never should have gotten any Edberg awards, he's a total
cunt.


   
Date: 02 Feb 2009 21:36:34
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...

On 2-Feb-2009, TT <gold@Olympics.org > wrote:

> RahimAsif wrote:
>
> > Do you remember when Nadal beat Fed in Dubai, the announcer mentioned
> > how Nadal leads the rivalry 3-1, and Fed quickly said, "And even that
> > was lucky". I always liked his honesty and frankness - I will take it
> > any day over fake modesty
>
>
> But it's exactly those kind of comments that tells us his modesty is
> 100% false. He never should have gotten any Edberg awards, he's a total
> cunt.

You could probably learn a thing or two from Rafa about class.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 21:43:49
From:
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 1, 11:33=A0pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:12=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
> > in the post match interviews..
>
> > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > mercy.
> > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".
>
> He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
> "I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all". Feeling bad for
> Roddick when you beat him routinely is one thing, beating someone in 5
> in slam finals is another...

this is Federina rubbing it in after beating Roddick..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWUi7Is7H54M
Karma is a b*tch isn't it?


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 21:37:10
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 1, 11:26=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:19=A0pm, Gerry <gesunel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 2, 4:12=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorou=
s
> > > in the post match interviews..
>
> > > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> > > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > > mercy.
> > > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. "=
.
>
> > Source?
>
> ...
> ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
> anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better player
> always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.
>
> You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the first
> place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
> played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
> him.
> ...
>
> http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2009-02-01/200902...
>
> mark the emphasis on "Not usually the better player always wins.... I
> kind of handed it over to him.".

Why not emphasis on "he played well". This is what I don't get -
everyone agrees Fed played a horrible 5th set, and yet when he states
that, it becomes arrogant. Should he just lie and say that he played
great and Nadal played even better?


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 11:38:23
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
"RahimAsif" <RahimAsif@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:dfdf69b0-cc77-454a-af8b-8bf3caba5e83@p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 1, 11:26 pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:19 pm, Gerry <gesunel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 2, 4:12 pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
> > > in the post match interviews..
>
> > > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> > > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > > mercy.
> > > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".
>
> > Source?
>
> ...
> ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
> anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better player
> always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.
>
> You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the first
> place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
> played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
> him.
> ...
>
> http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2009-02-01/200902...
>
> mark the emphasis on "Not usually the better player always wins.... I
> kind of handed it over to him.".
>
>Why not emphasis on "he played well". This is what I don't get -
>everyone agrees Fed played a horrible 5th set, and yet when he states
>that, it becomes arrogant. Should he just lie and say that he played
>great and Nadal played even better?

because to say "I handed it to him", "I should've won it" and "the better
player lost today"(in other words) and stuff like "most people were upset
that I lost Wimbledon than that Nadal won it" is quite uncharacteristic of
somebody we're repeatedly told is the nicest guy in the entire world.




   
Date: 02 Feb 2009 23:03:26
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
Iceberg wrote:
> "RahimAsif" <RahimAsif@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:dfdf69b0-cc77-454a-af8b-8bf3caba5e83@p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 1, 11:26 pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Feb 1, 11:19 pm, Gerry <gesunel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 2, 4:12 pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
>>>> in the post match interviews..
>>>> "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
>>>> repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
>>>> dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
>>>> class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
>>>> mercy.
>>>> Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".
>>> Source?
>> ...
>> ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
>> anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better player
>> always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.
>>
>> You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the first
>> place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
>> played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
>> him.
>> ...
>>
>> http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2009-02-01/200902...
>>
>> mark the emphasis on "Not usually the better player always wins.... I
>> kind of handed it over to him.".
>>
>> Why not emphasis on "he played well". This is what I don't get -
>> everyone agrees Fed played a horrible 5th set, and yet when he states
>> that, it becomes arrogant. Should he just lie and say that he played
>> great and Nadal played even better?
>
> because to say "I handed it to him", "I should've won it" and "the better
> player lost today"(in other words) and stuff like "most people were upset
> that I lost Wimbledon than that Nadal won it" is quite uncharacteristic of
> somebody we're repeatedly told is the nicest guy in the entire world.
>
>


Bingo. Rafa is the real classy guy - he listens to all of Fed's bs &
says nothing. Fed even said Rafa is No.1 'for now', & Rafa lets it slide.

Then again maybe he doesn't - he may use it as fuel to fight for every
point.


    
Date: 02 Feb 2009 14:19:49
From: TT
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
Whisper wrote:
> Iceberg wrote:
>> "RahimAsif" <RahimAsif@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:dfdf69b0-cc77-454a-af8b-8bf3caba5e83@p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 1, 11:26 pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Feb 1, 11:19 pm, Gerry <gesunel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 2, 4:12 pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
>>>>> in the post match interviews..
>>>>> "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
>>>>> repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
>>>>> dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
>>>>> class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
>>>>> mercy.
>>>>> Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".
>>>> Source?
>>> ...
>>> ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
>>> anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better player
>>> always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.
>>>
>>> You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the first
>>> place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
>>> played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
>>> him.
>>> ...
>>>
>>> http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2009-02-01/200902...
>>>
>>> mark the emphasis on "Not usually the better player always wins.... I
>>> kind of handed it over to him.".
>>>
>>> Why not emphasis on "he played well". This is what I don't get -
>>> everyone agrees Fed played a horrible 5th set, and yet when he states
>>> that, it becomes arrogant. Should he just lie and say that he played
>>> great and Nadal played even better?
>>
>> because to say "I handed it to him", "I should've won it" and "the
>> better player lost today"(in other words) and stuff like "most people
>> were upset that I lost Wimbledon than that Nadal won it" is quite
>> uncharacteristic of somebody we're repeatedly told is the nicest guy
>> in the entire world.
>>
>
>
> Bingo. Rafa is the real classy guy - he listens to all of Fed's bs &
> says nothing. Fed even said Rafa is No.1 'for now', & Rafa lets it slide.
>
> Then again maybe he doesn't - he may use it as fuel to fight for every
> point.

I wonder if Federer, that self centered fuck, still feels like he should
be #1 over Nadal...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 21:33:35
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 1, 11:12=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
> in the post match interviews..
>
> "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> mercy.
> Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".

He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
"I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all". Feeling bad for
Roddick when you beat him routinely is one thing, beating someone in 5
in slam finals is another...


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 14:34:15
From: TT
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
RahimAsif wrote:
>
> He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
> "I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all".

Strange interpretation. How in the hell does that suggest he was feeling
sorry for Rafa?


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 14:27:29
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:33:35 -0800 (PST), RahimAsif
<RahimAsif@gmail.com > wrote:

>He felt bad for Rafa when he beat him in 5 at Wimby - remember he said
>"I need to get what I can until Rafa wins them all".

Did he say that? Ouch...


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 21:26:05
From:
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 1, 11:19=A0pm, Gerry <gesunel...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 2, 4:12=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
> > in the post match interviews..
>
> > "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> > repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> > dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> > class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> > mercy.
> > Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".
>
> Source?

...
ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better player
always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.

You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the first
place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
him.
...

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/interviews/2009-02-01/200902011233=
411537875.html

mark the emphasis on "Not usually the better player always wins.... I
kind of handed it over to him.".


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 21:19:28
From: Gerry
Subject: Re: Can Federer understand what Roddick must be going through...
On Feb 2, 4:12=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> .. but he's an utter class and always stays gracious and even humorous
> in the post match interviews..
>
> "... Roger never really felt bad for so many players that he beat
> repeatedly over the years. He always enjoyed the moment with smile. I
> dont know if you noticed but Rafa tried to calm him down and thats
> class. Federer was arrogant most of the times and didnt have any
> mercy.
> Even after the match if you read his comments he is still arrogant. ".

Source?