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Date: 29 Jan 2009 13:52:58
From: akamai
Subject: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
Rafa moves better than Berdych. Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.
Has his leftiness to take sting out of Fed's shots. The surface is
slow. The match is at night where it is even slower. So, can Rafa do
what Berdych did and do it even better to close out the match in 3
sets? I hope not but I am reconciling to the idea that Fed may go out
in straights.




 
Date: 30 Jan 2009 18:36:42
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
akamai wrote:
> Rafa moves better than Berdych. Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.
> Has his leftiness to take sting out of Fed's shots. The surface is
> slow. The match is at night where it is even slower. So, can Rafa do
> what Berdych did and do it even better to close out the match in 3
> sets? I hope not but I am reconciling to the idea that Fed may go out
> in straights.


Take it to the bank.



 
Date: 29 Jan 2009 16:39:33
From: akamai
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
On Jan 29, 6:21 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 29, 4:52 pm, akamai <akamai.nak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Rafa moves better than Berdych. Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.
> > Has his leftiness to take sting out of Fed's shots. The surface is
> > slow. The match is at night where it is even slower. So, can Rafa do
> > what Berdych did and do it even better to close out the match in 3
> > sets? I hope not but I am reconciling to the idea that Fed may go out
> > in straights.
>
> I think the reason people are objecting to the comparison is because
> Berdych is a big slow guy
> who has to cold-clock flattish winners, in a sort of one-strike
> attack, to have any chance of beating a guy like Fed.
>
> Whereas Rafa will hit with much greater spin and margin for error to
> gradually work Fed out of position before
> finishing him off.
>
> Also Rafa will obviously rely on his defense to win points to a far
> greater degree than Berdych would or could do.

I agree. My point is Berdych either finished the point off right away
or hit a shot to put Fed in defensive position from which Fed could
not recover. He did not play a waiting game. Normally Rafa does not do
that on hardcourts but this time, he has been doing consistently. A
lot of it will depend on how Fed plays. I could not believe what he
did to Gonzo. In case he wins today, that is what may happen if Fed is
not careful.


 
Date: 30 Jan 2009 00:36:19
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:52:58 -0800 (PST), akamai
<akamai.nakuma@gmail.com > wrote:

>Rafa moves better than Berdych. Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.
>Has his leftiness to take sting out of Fed's shots. The surface is
>slow. The match is at night where it is even slower. So, can Rafa do
>what Berdych did and do it even better to close out the match in 3
>sets? I hope not but I am reconciling to the idea that Fed may go out
>in straights.


r u nuts or is it you just don't have any balls ?


 
Date: 29 Jan 2009 16:21:44
From:
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
On Jan 29, 4:52=A0pm, akamai <akamai.nak...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Rafa moves better than Berdych. Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.
> Has his leftiness to take sting out of Fed's shots. The surface is
> slow. The match is at night where it is even slower. So, can Rafa do
> what Berdych did and do it even better to close out the match in 3
> sets? I hope not but I am reconciling to the idea that Fed may go out
> in straights.

I think the reason people are objecting to the comparison is because
Berdych is a big slow guy
who has to cold-clock flattish winners, in a sort of one-strike
attack, to have any chance of beating a guy like Fed.

Whereas Rafa will hit with much greater spin and margin for error to
gradually work Fed out of position before
finishing him off.

Also Rafa will obviously rely on his defense to win points to a far
greater degree than Berdych would or could do.


 
Date: 29 Jan 2009 16:17:11
From: akamai
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
On Jan 29, 6:07 pm, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> akamai wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 4:49 pm, "Aimless" <creepingcuriously9...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> "akamai" <akamai.nak...@gmail.com>
>
> >>> Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.
> >> .. your ignorance of the player's features is appalling. Rafa can't hit the
> >> ball anywhere near as clean and hard as berdych. Nadal has top spin.
>
> > I think you should look at Nadal's matches before the Simon match
> > especially Gonzo match. A clean hit does not necessarily mean flat
> > hit. If Nadal is in a position to take a clean cut on his FH, the
> > point is almost over. Berdych did the same too.
>
> Can you explain how you define a "clean hit"? Berdych was cutting the
> ball early on every short ball from Federer. Nadal does not have the
> technical skills to do the same, I can guarantee you.
>
> PS.

A hit is a clean hit when the ball lands exactly where you want to hit
it and lands there with the pace you intended. I agree against Simon
he was moonballing a bit but I think he wanted to make it as tough as
possible to do anything with the ball. In all his previous matches, he
had been hitting superbly. My point is any of those slices Fed is
hitting that are sitting up at the back of the court are easy fodder
for Nadal to take control of the point and he has shown the ability to
do just that all these matches.


  
Date: 30 Jan 2009 01:44:51
From: Aimless
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?

"akamai" <akamai.nakuma@gmail.com > wrote in message

> A hit is a clean hit when the ball lands exactly where you want to hit
> it and lands there with the pace you intended.

Oh that's soo cute. You have your own definitions and stuff. This is a new
age concept at best. Every top player can hit the ball exactly with the pace
he wants and to the spot he wants. Also this clean hitting concept does not
relate Berdych to Nadal in any way. Berdych can bash a ball which lands a
little short on his side of the court at 105 mph to a corner. THAT Nadal can
never do. Nadal has other skills. Retrieval skills are amazing and he is a
great mover. That's why Federer's sliced backhand or any other shot for that
matter bothers him less.



 
Date: 29 Jan 2009 16:03:56
From: akamai
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
On Jan 29, 4:49 pm, "Aimless" <creepingcuriously9...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> "akamai" <akamai.nak...@gmail.com>
>
> > Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.
>
> .. your ignorance of the player's features is appalling. Rafa can't hit the
> ball anywhere near as clean and hard as berdych. Nadal has top spin.

I think you should look at Nadal's matches before the Simon match
especially Gonzo match. A clean hit does not necessarily mean flat
hit. If Nadal is in a position to take a clean cut on his FH, the
point is almost over. Berdych did the same too.


  
Date: 30 Jan 2009 01:07:01
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
akamai wrote:
> On Jan 29, 4:49 pm, "Aimless" <creepingcuriously9...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> "akamai" <akamai.nak...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.
>> .. your ignorance of the player's features is appalling. Rafa can't hit the
>> ball anywhere near as clean and hard as berdych. Nadal has top spin.
>
> I think you should look at Nadal's matches before the Simon match
> especially Gonzo match. A clean hit does not necessarily mean flat
> hit. If Nadal is in a position to take a clean cut on his FH, the
> point is almost over. Berdych did the same too.

Can you explain how you define a "clean hit"? Berdych was cutting the
ball early on every short ball from Federer. Nadal does not have the
technical skills to do the same, I can guarantee you.

PS.


   
Date: 30 Jan 2009 19:24:47
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
Petter Solbu wrote:
> akamai wrote:
>> On Jan 29, 4:49 pm, "Aimless" <creepingcuriously9...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> "akamai" <akamai.nak...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.
>>> .. your ignorance of the player's features is appalling. Rafa can't
>>> hit the
>>> ball anywhere near as clean and hard as berdych. Nadal has top spin.
>>
>> I think you should look at Nadal's matches before the Simon match
>> especially Gonzo match. A clean hit does not necessarily mean flat
>> hit. If Nadal is in a position to take a clean cut on his FH, the
>> point is almost over. Berdych did the same too.
>
> Can you explain how you define a "clean hit"? Berdych was cutting the
> ball early on every short ball from Federer. Nadal does not have the
> technical skills to do the same, I can guarantee you.
>
> PS.


That is a far inferior 'skill' compared to what Rafa brings to the
table, obviously.

Have you ever played tennis on a real court?


 
Date: 29 Jan 2009 23:49:29
From: Aimless
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?

"akamai" <akamai.nakuma@gmail.com >

> Can hit the ball almost as cleanly.

.. your ignorance of the player's features is appalling. Rafa can't hit the
ball anywhere near as clean and hard as berdych. Nadal has top spin.



 
Date: 29 Jan 2009 14:38:44
From: guyana
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
On Jan 29, 5:26=A0pm, TennisGuy <Jeffery21...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jan 29, 4:52=A0pm, akamai <akamai.nak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
>
> If Rafa does what Berdych did to Fed (lose), Fed will have his 14th
> slam title.

Fed in 4!!


 
Date: 29 Jan 2009 14:26:46
From: TennisGuy
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
On Jan 29, 4:52=A0pm, akamai <akamai.nak...@gmail.com > wrote:


>Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?

If Rafa does what Berdych did to Fed (lose), Fed will have his 14th
slam title.


 
Date: 29 Jan 2009 14:03:53
From: Lax
Subject: Re: Can Rafa do what Berdych did to Fed?
Rafa and Berdych and different beasts.

Bird has a monster serve, but lower %. Bird hits way faster, but not
as much spin. Rafa moves better.