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Date: 21 Jan 2009 17:02:13
From: chrisf
Subject: Cilic v Tipsarevic
I saw a bit of the Cilic v Tipsarevic match from the end of the second
set on. Cilic has a surprisingly solid ground game for such a tall guy.
I thought he handled Tipsarevic's power very well. His serve is just
impossible to read. He had a few spinning second serves to the ad court
that Tipsarevic had to hit practically in the stands. That looked like
the difference to me. He was able to conserve energy on his own serve
and just had more at the end. Tipsarevic was going after every shot with
ridiculous effort. He almost seemed angry at times.

Martina mentioned a few times about the Serbs and Croats in the stands
yelling back and forth. But it didn't sound too ugly to me on tv. They
did show some footage of Serb and Greek fans who got tossed out of a
match and had to be separated outside the stadium. That sounded just
like last year's incident though, so I don't know if this was something
new or just par for the course for Serb fans. This country just likes to
start trouble, doesn't it ;-)




 
Date: 22 Jan 2009 00:44:23
From: Guru
Subject: Re: Cilic v Tipsarevic
"chrisf" <chrisf@nospam.com > wrote in message
news:pyIdl.1187$aI1.1050@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> ... did show some footage of Serb and Greek fans who got tossed out of a
> match and had to be separated outside the stadium. That sounded just like
> last year's incident though, so I don't know if this was something new or
> just par for the course for Serb fans. This country just likes to start
> trouble, doesn't it ;-)

This is the country that WAS (or at least unsuccessfully tried to be)
trouble concerning every bloody Balkans conflict in 90s from Vukovar to
Srebrenica. Almost every evil thing that happened than, originated from
their 'finest' representatives (e.i. war criminals - host of which are sadly
still hidden from justice there and treated like heroes).
'Tunes' they were singing during the match were last used in their
occupation of Vukovar (Croatia) during the slaughtering of thousands of
civilians there (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ZOb2LGlhQ )

... NEVER to happen again.




  
Date: 22 Jan 2009 00:58:42
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Cilic v Tipsarevic

"Guru" <f@ck.you > wrote in message news:gl8bv4$ehe$1@news2.carnet.hr...
> "chrisf" <chrisf@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:pyIdl.1187$aI1.1050@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>> ... did show some footage of Serb and Greek fans who got tossed out of a
>> match and had to be separated outside the stadium. That sounded just like
>> last year's incident though, so I don't know if this was something new or
>> just par for the course for Serb fans. This country just likes to start
>> trouble, doesn't it ;-)
>
> This is the country that WAS (or at least unsuccessfully tried to be)
> trouble concerning every bloody Balkans conflict in 90s from Vukovar to
> Srebrenica. Almost every evil thing that happened than, originated from
> their 'finest' representatives (e.i. war criminals - host of which are
> sadly still hidden from justice there and treated like heroes).
> 'Tunes' they were singing during the match were last used in their
> occupation of Vukovar (Croatia) during the slaughtering of thousands of
> civilians there (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ZOb2LGlhQ )
>
> ... NEVER to happen again.


"Only" less than 200 people were slaughteredso don't spread lies and hate
speaking about "thousands".
Also, cut the crap, "our Croats" down under were singing nationalistic and
nazi songs from ww2.

They're all morons, no exceptions.





   
Date: 22 Jan 2009 01:36:07
From: Guru
Subject: Re: Cilic v Tipsarevic
"*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr > threw up in message
news:gl8crp$btt$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
> "Only" less than 200 people were slaughteredso don't spread lies and hate
> speaking about "thousands".
> Also, cut the crap, "our Croats" down under were singing nationalistic and
> nazi songs from ww2.
> They're all morons, no exceptions.


I hope you're NOT a Croat, because a real Croat would not say such a
BullShit about Vukovar!
I despise any kind of aggresive extreme nacionalism --- bur READ THIS (that
is - if you can read): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vukovar .
(Not to mention many many more thousands killed by serbs in Srebrenica and
all over Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina).
Their country was NEVER entered nor touched warwise,either by a Croat or a
Bosnian. Such things we will NEVER forget (nor would every civilised citizen
nowodays)!
It's all documented - dude!

I rest my case!




 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 21:08:04
From: Mad Max
Subject: Re: Cilic v Tipsarevic
chrisf prolije vodu po tipkovnici 21-sij-2009 18:02 koja u soku napise:
> I saw a bit of the Cilic v Tipsarevic match from the end of the second
> set on. Cilic has a surprisingly solid ground game for such a tall guy.
> I thought he handled Tipsarevic's power very well. His serve is just
> impossible to read. He had a few spinning second serves to the ad court
> that Tipsarevic had to hit practically in the stands. That looked like
> the difference to me. He was able to conserve energy on his own serve
> and just had more at the end. Tipsarevic was going after every shot with
> ridiculous effort. He almost seemed angry at times.
>
> Martina mentioned a few times about the Serbs and Croats in the stands
> yelling back and forth. But it didn't sound too ugly to me on tv. They
> did show some footage of Serb and Greek fans who got tossed out of a
> match and had to be separated outside the stadium. That sounded just
> like last year's incident though, so I don't know if this was something
> new or just par for the course for Serb fans. This country just likes to
> start trouble, doesn't it ;-)
>
It was pretty bad if you speak the language I mean from the Serb fans.


 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 19:04:43
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Cilic v Tipsarevic

"chrisf" <chrisf@nospam.com > wrote in message
news:pyIdl.1187$aI1.1050@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>I saw a bit of the Cilic v Tipsarevic match from the end of the second set
>on. Cilic has a surprisingly solid ground game for such a tall guy. I
>thought he handled Tipsarevic's power very well. His serve is just
>impossible to read. He had a few spinning second serves to the ad court
>that Tipsarevic had to hit practically in the stands. That looked like the
>difference to me. He was able to conserve energy on his own serve and just
>had more at the end. Tipsarevic was going after every shot with ridiculous
>effort. He almost seemed angry at times.
>
> Martina mentioned a few times about the Serbs and Croats in the stands
> yelling back and forth. But it didn't sound too ugly to me on tv. They did
> show some footage of Serb and Greek fans who got tossed out of a match and
> had to be separated outside the stadium. That sounded just like last
> year's incident though, so I don't know if this was something new or just
> par for the course for Serb fans. This country just likes to start
> trouble, doesn't it ;-)


I've seen some of the yelling and it was laughable and extremely hillarious
for an outside observer.
Croats were yelling their usual stuff for footbal matches "We Croats" and
Serbs were replying with "You rurals/peasants".
It make s a ryhme in Serbian/Croatian and that's why it's so funny.

Serb were saying "Kosovo is heart of Serbia" while Croats were responding
with "There is no Kosovo any more".
Also Serbs were saying: "Cilic - Serb".

Very funny all in all. Compared to the fight two years ago, a great
impovment for the immigrants.
Still much more "passionate" than encounters at two Croatian ATP tournaments
or Belgrade challenger where our players met already.