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Date: 03 Jan 2009 09:26:49
From: Fan
Subject: Could Murray be the new Federer?
Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
will be the new #1 in 2009.

He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
keeps his temper under control.




 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 08:13:19
From:
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Jan 4, 3:48=A0pm, Aranci...@selin.com wrote:
> In 2008 at Wimbledon the balls bounced very low due to the constant
> rain. Furthermore the courts were pretty slick

Were they? I don't remember constant rain last year. Was it not 2007
which was badly affected by rain (Nadal having to play every day,
etc)?



  
Date: 05 Jan 2009 08:53:29
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
<gregorawe@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:0f6442ab-a192-4bed-af24-2cc495063552@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 3:48 pm, Aranci...@selin.com wrote:
> In 2008 at Wimbledon the balls bounced very low due to the constant
> rain. Furthermore the courts were pretty slick
>
>Were they? I don't remember constant rain last year. Was it not 2007
>which was badly affected by rain (Nadal having to play every day,
>etc)?

It rained a bit this year, but yeah 2007 seemed to have more delays. Due to
his fixed draw and his mates pulling out injured, Fed was given 6 days off,
whilst poor Nadal was playing almost every day.




 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 07:48:39
From:
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
In 2008 at Wimbledon the balls bounced very low due to the constant
rain. Furthermore the courts were pretty slick


 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 07:34:58
From:
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Jan 4, 3:01=A0am, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2:01=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:26:49 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
> > <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
> > >will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> > >He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
> > >keeps his temper under control.
>
> > ???? i like Murrays game. he puts rafa to shame imho. of all the
> > wannabes he is the most worthy to inherit the throne circa 2012-2015.
>
> You are in for a lot of pain if you still hanging on to the idea of a
> dominant Federer. I remember a couple of years ago, after beating
> Nadal in a close slam final (W?), Federer consoling Nadal that his
> time will come. Federer at 27 is not going to be as dominant as he was
> for 4-1/2 years. It was an incredible display of talent but it is
> ending. I see a couple of slams for Federer in the future if he hangs
> in there. Winning 15 slams should be much more important than #1, the
> French or the Olympic Gold. Federer is my favorite to win 2009
> Wimbledon. That will make it 14 slams.
>
> Murray is worse for Federer than Nalbandian was. Nalbandian would
> spank Federer from time to time but he would get fat and fade away
> after a couple of impressive wins. I do not see Murray fading away any
> time soon. The only thing is his weak bones but he built up some
> muscles to take care of that.
>
> It was strange to see all those Scottish and Spanish flags but not a
> single British flag :)

This year there will be a roof so the courts will be high bouncing and
slow at Wimbledon..... good for Rafa.


 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 07:31:25
From:
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Jan 4, 8:38=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:00:37 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >news:ptt0m49igebj6pcp7bi0gm55ghup181duq@4ax.com...
> >> oh and murray is FAR woese for Rafa than for Fed. Rafa used to win the
> >> odd hc event but now he will win NONE. that means curtains for his #1.
>
> >Think again. He beat Murray in Toronto last year.
>
> That was LAST year. This is THIS year.

Murrays best surface are the fast HC like Cincy, Madrid and the USO.
He lost at the slow HC of Toronto and Paris. He has to prove he can
win at the slower HC like AO, Miami, IW, etc. think again, Hazel.


 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 02:28:14
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Jan 4, 9:49=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:42:16 GMT, Dave Hazelwood
>
>
>
>
>
> <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 00:01:05 -0800 (PST), Fan
> ><Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Jan 4, 2:01=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote=
:
> >>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:26:49 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
> >>> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because =
he
> >>> >will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> >>> >He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and =
he
> >>> >keeps his temper under control.
>
> >>> ???? i like Murrays game. he puts rafa to shame imho. of all the
> >>> wannabes he is the most worthy to inherit the throne circa 2012-2015.
>
> >>You are in for a lot of pain if you still hanging on to the idea of a
> >>dominant Federer. I remember a couple of years ago, after beating
> >>Nadal in a close slam final (W?), Federer consoling Nadal that his
> >>time will come. Federer at 27 is not going to be as dominant as he was
> >>for 4-1/2 years. It was an incredible display of talent but it is
> >>ending. I see a couple of slams for Federer in the future if he hangs
> >>in there. Winning 15 slams should be much more important than #1, the
> >>French or the Olympic Gold. Federer is my favorite to win 2009
> >>Wimbledon. That will make it 14 slams.
>
> >>Murray is worse for Federer than Nalbandian was. Nalbandian would
> >>spank Federer from time to time but he would get fat and fade away
> >>after a couple of impressive wins. I do not see Murray fading away any
> >>time soon. The only thing is his weak bones but he built up some
> >>muscles to take care of that.
>
> >>It was strange to see all those Scottish and Spanish flags but not a
> >>single British flag :)
>
> >tim henman's retired ;)
>
> oh and murray is FAR woese for Rafa than for Fed. Rafa used to win the
> odd hc event but now he will win NONE. that means curtains for his #1.

Murray had a hard time but he beat them both :)


 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 00:01:05
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Jan 4, 2:01=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:26:49 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
> >will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> >He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
> >keeps his temper under control.
>
> ???? i like Murrays game. he puts rafa to shame imho. of all the
> wannabes he is the most worthy to inherit the throne circa 2012-2015.

You are in for a lot of pain if you still hanging on to the idea of a
dominant Federer. I remember a couple of years ago, after beating
Nadal in a close slam final (W?), Federer consoling Nadal that his
time will come. Federer at 27 is not going to be as dominant as he was
for 4-1/2 years. It was an incredible display of talent but it is
ending. I see a couple of slams for Federer in the future if he hangs
in there. Winning 15 slams should be much more important than #1, the
French or the Olympic Gold. Federer is my favorite to win 2009
Wimbledon. That will make it 14 slams.

Murray is worse for Federer than Nalbandian was. Nalbandian would
spank Federer from time to time but he would get fat and fade away
after a couple of impressive wins. I do not see Murray fading away any
time soon. The only thing is his weak bones but he built up some
muscles to take care of that.

It was strange to see all those Scottish and Spanish flags but not a
single British flag :)






  
Date: 04 Jan 2009 08:42:16
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 00:01:05 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 4, 2:01 am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:26:49 -0800 (PST), Fan
>>
>> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
>> >will be the new #1 in 2009.
>>
>> >He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
>> >keeps his temper under control.
>>
>> ???? i like Murrays game. he puts rafa to shame imho. of all the
>> wannabes he is the most worthy to inherit the throne circa 2012-2015.
>
>You are in for a lot of pain if you still hanging on to the idea of a
>dominant Federer. I remember a couple of years ago, after beating
>Nadal in a close slam final (W?), Federer consoling Nadal that his
>time will come. Federer at 27 is not going to be as dominant as he was
>for 4-1/2 years. It was an incredible display of talent but it is
>ending. I see a couple of slams for Federer in the future if he hangs
>in there. Winning 15 slams should be much more important than #1, the
>French or the Olympic Gold. Federer is my favorite to win 2009
>Wimbledon. That will make it 14 slams.
>
>Murray is worse for Federer than Nalbandian was. Nalbandian would
>spank Federer from time to time but he would get fat and fade away
>after a couple of impressive wins. I do not see Murray fading away any
>time soon. The only thing is his weak bones but he built up some
>muscles to take care of that.
>
>It was strange to see all those Scottish and Spanish flags but not a
>single British flag :)


tim henman's retired ;)


   
Date: 04 Jan 2009 08:49:02
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:42:16 GMT, Dave Hazelwood
<the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 00:01:05 -0800 (PST), Fan
><TurnagainArm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 4, 2:01 am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:26:49 -0800 (PST), Fan
>>>
>>> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
>>> >will be the new #1 in 2009.
>>>
>>> >He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
>>> >keeps his temper under control.
>>>
>>> ???? i like Murrays game. he puts rafa to shame imho. of all the
>>> wannabes he is the most worthy to inherit the throne circa 2012-2015.
>>
>>You are in for a lot of pain if you still hanging on to the idea of a
>>dominant Federer. I remember a couple of years ago, after beating
>>Nadal in a close slam final (W?), Federer consoling Nadal that his
>>time will come. Federer at 27 is not going to be as dominant as he was
>>for 4-1/2 years. It was an incredible display of talent but it is
>>ending. I see a couple of slams for Federer in the future if he hangs
>>in there. Winning 15 slams should be much more important than #1, the
>>French or the Olympic Gold. Federer is my favorite to win 2009
>>Wimbledon. That will make it 14 slams.
>>
>>Murray is worse for Federer than Nalbandian was. Nalbandian would
>>spank Federer from time to time but he would get fat and fade away
>>after a couple of impressive wins. I do not see Murray fading away any
>>time soon. The only thing is his weak bones but he built up some
>>muscles to take care of that.
>>
>>It was strange to see all those Scottish and Spanish flags but not a
>>single British flag :)
>
>
>tim henman's retired ;)


oh and murray is FAR woese for Rafa than for Fed. Rafa used to win the
odd hc event but now he will win NONE. that means curtains for his #1.


    
Date: 04 Jan 2009 10:00:37
From: Stapler
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote in message
news:ptt0m49igebj6pcp7bi0gm55ghup181duq@4ax.com...
> oh and murray is FAR woese for Rafa than for Fed. Rafa used to win the
> odd hc event but now he will win NONE. that means curtains for his #1.


Think again. He beat Murray in Toronto last year.



     
Date: 04 Jan 2009 13:38:11
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:00:37 GMT, "Stapler" <d@d.com > wrote:

>"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>news:ptt0m49igebj6pcp7bi0gm55ghup181duq@4ax.com...
>> oh and murray is FAR woese for Rafa than for Fed. Rafa used to win the
>> odd hc event but now he will win NONE. that means curtains for his #1.
>
>
>Think again. He beat Murray in Toronto last year.


That was LAST year. This is THIS year.


 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 06:51:06
From: Stapler
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
"Fan" <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:7aee3408-8c9f-4a5c-bbc3-4813cbf32021@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
> will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
> keeps his temper under control.


Let's see him win a friggen slam first.



 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 00:30:27
From: John P
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
no more than Roland "Uncle Rod" Burris is the new Obama...



 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 01:01:25
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:26:49 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
>will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
>He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
>keeps his temper under control.


???? i like Murrays game. he puts rafa to shame imho. of all the
wannabes he is the most worthy to inherit the throne circa 2012-2015.


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 16:58:57
From:
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
In article
<7aee3408-8c9f-4a5c-bbc3-4813cbf32021@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com >,
TurnagainArm@hotmail.com (Fan) wrote:

>
> Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because
> he
> will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and
> he
> keeps his temper under control.

And if he doesn't wear himself out in the meaningless matches instead of
pacing himself for the big ones, like he did at the YECs.

wg


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 09:42:23
From:
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Jan 3, 5:28=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Fan wrote:
> > Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
> > will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> > He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
> > keeps his temper under control.
>
> Exo bandwagoner

Are you saying that exhibition matches aren't that important and
shouldn't be taken seriously?





  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 19:48:51
From: TT
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 3, 5:28 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> Fan wrote:
>>> Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
>>> will be the new #1 in 2009.
>>> He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
>>> keeps his temper under control.
>> Exo bandwagoner
>
> Are you saying that exhibition matches aren't that important and
> shouldn't be taken seriously?
>
>
>

Sarcasm.

I'm saying that Fan is drawing rather hasty conclusions with his
bandwagoning, even though these exo matches were not fixed as some are.


--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 09:36:56
From:
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Jan 3, 12:26=A0pm, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
> will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
> keeps his temper under control.

Im telling you it is going to be hard for Fed to win a single slam
this year. Much harder than in 2008 and he only won 1 in 2008. In 2009
Fed will not win any slams or win the lottery again and win just 1
slam like at the 2008 USO when Murray was fucked by the rigged Fed
friendly SF scheduling that left Murray fucked for the final.


  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 18:16:20
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
<Arancione@selin.com > wrote in message
news:7dc5314f-951b-4489-91c9-506cf96d7150@v15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 3, 12:26 pm, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
> will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
> keeps his temper under control.
>
>Im telling you it is going to be hard for Fed to win a single slam
>this year. Much harder than in 2008 and he only won 1 in 2008. In 2009
>Fed will not win any slams or win the lottery again and win just 1
>slam like at the 2008 USO when Murray was fucked by the rigged Fed
>friendly SF scheduling that left Murray fucked for the final.

and the paid off linesman who ignored the ball going out on that crucial
break point.




   
Date: 03 Jan 2009 22:23:17
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:16:20 GMT, "Iceberg"
<big_bad_iceberg@moc.oohay > wrote:

><Arancione@selin.com> wrote in message
>news:7dc5314f-951b-4489-91c9-506cf96d7150@v15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>On Jan 3, 12:26 pm, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
>> will be the new #1 in 2009.
>>
>> He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
>> keeps his temper under control.
>>
>>Im telling you it is going to be hard for Fed to win a single slam
>>this year. Much harder than in 2008 and he only won 1 in 2008. In 2009
>>Fed will not win any slams or win the lottery again and win just 1
>>slam like at the 2008 USO when Murray was fucked by the rigged Fed
>>friendly SF scheduling that left Murray fucked for the final.
>
>and the paid off linesman who ignored the ball going out on that crucial
>break point.

Fortunately there was HawkEye so no need to talk about things like
that afterwards.



 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 09:33:59
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
On Jan 3, 6:28=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Fan wrote:
> > Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
> > will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> > He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
> > keeps his temper under control.
>
> Exo bandwagoner

My favorite retired after winning it all. I call it as I see it with
no favorites.


  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 19:37:29
From: TT
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
Fan wrote:
> On Jan 3, 6:28 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> Fan wrote:
>>> Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
>>> will be the new #1 in 2009.
>>> He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
>>> keeps his temper under control.
>> Exo bandwagoner
>
> My favorite retired after winning it all.

Laver? Agassi? Budge?

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 19:28:35
From: TT
Subject: Re: Could Murray be the new Federer?
Fan wrote:
> Nadal hating fedfans take notice; Murray is the one to hate because he
> will be the new #1 in 2009.
>
> He matured a lot the past six months, his conditioning improved and he
> keeps his temper under control.

Exo bandwagoner

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"