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Date: 05 Feb 2009 20:20:38
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Dimitrov the new Federer?
I have a good feeling about this player. He has a beautiful one-handed
backhand - seldom these days. He won both Wimbledon and US Open for
juniors last year. He will play in Rotterdam next week (received a WC).
Hope he can do well! He is only 17 years old.

PS.




 
Date: 05 Feb 2009 17:14:09
From: Javier Gonzalez
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
Petter Solbu <pettermann1984@hotmail.com > wrote:
> I have a good feeling about this player. He has a beautiful one-handed
> backhand - seldom these days. He won both Wimbledon and US Open for
> juniors last year. He will play in Rotterdam next week (received a WC).
> Hope he can do well! He is only 17 years old.

Would be nice to have a good player coming up this fast - no Hewitt-like
transition period :)

However, let me remind you that Fernando Gonzalez won junior FO singles AND
doubles when he was 17, and was #1. No such luck in the regular circuit...

And, of course, Nicolas Pereira (who?!?).


  
Date: 07 Feb 2009 08:39:16
From: number_six
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
On Feb 7, 8:20=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 10:05=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 6:41=A0am, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 7, 12:55=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 03:53:56 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>
> > > > <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >On Feb 6, 11:48=A0am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wr=
ote:
> > > > >> Professor X wrote:
> > > > >> > a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I be=
lieve,
> > > > >> > and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pr=
o tour.
>
> > > > >> No one named Childs won a Junior Slam.
>
> > > > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_Boys'_Singles_cha=
mpions
>
> > > > >> PS.
>
> > > > >"Back in the days when Tim Henman was regarded as too scrawny to
> > > > >consider a top-flight tennis career, a bright, shining light emerg=
ed
> > > > >at the 1993 Australian Open. Baily, second from left, next to Henm=
an,
> > > > >the training partner of the much-hyped Jamie Delgado, took everybo=
dy
> > > > >by surprise to win the junior title on the Rebound Ace of Flinders
> > > > >Park. In some circles the victory was seen as heralding a new era =
in
> > > > >British tennis, but the experience of facing a nation=92s media on=
his
> > > > >homecoming terrified the shy Baily. After playing just one men=92s
> > > > >event, the 18-year-old turned his back on the game and was perfect=
ly
> > > > >content to drift back into anonymity."
>
> > > > Huh. That's weird. Don't think any other junior slam winner has fai=
led
> > > > THAT badly. We have Jarkko Nieminen, 1999 USO boys' champion, who i=
s
> > > > having a pretty good career, and now we have Henri Kontinen who mad=
e
> > > > Wimbledon final last yeat, we'll see what will happen to him.- Hide=
quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > yes, it's very strange. I would be surprised if their wasn't more too
> > > it than the excerpt implies.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > And look at the long gap without a junior winner who went on to win at
> > least one men's major -- no one between Edberg in '83 and Fed at
> > junior Wimby '98. =A0The reason being, of course, that Pete and Andre
> > transitioned immediately.
>
> In the present era, Baghdatis and Gasquet are good examples of Junior
> champs who have lived up to their names. Well, may be not entirely,
> but they have had good results.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

There were some "almost but not quite" guys in that gap.. Baghdatis
and Gasquet may wind up there, but there are plenty of chapters yet to
be written for them, and Monfils, Murray, Tsonga. But the new players
come up fast, and no one has time to fiddle around.


  
Date: 07 Feb 2009 08:20:12
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
On Feb 7, 10:05=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 6:41=A0am, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 12:55=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 03:53:56 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>
> > > <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >On Feb 6, 11:48=A0am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrot=
e:
> > > >> Professor X wrote:
> > > >> > a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I beli=
eve,
> > > >> > and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pro =
tour.
>
> > > >> No one named Childs won a Junior Slam.
>
> > > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_Boys'_Singles_champ=
ions
>
> > > >> PS.
>
> > > >"Back in the days when Tim Henman was regarded as too scrawny to
> > > >consider a top-flight tennis career, a bright, shining light emerged
> > > >at the 1993 Australian Open. Baily, second from left, next to Henman=
,
> > > >the training partner of the much-hyped Jamie Delgado, took everybody
> > > >by surprise to win the junior title on the Rebound Ace of Flinders
> > > >Park. In some circles the victory was seen as heralding a new era in
> > > >British tennis, but the experience of facing a nation=92s media on h=
is
> > > >homecoming terrified the shy Baily. After playing just one men=92s
> > > >event, the 18-year-old turned his back on the game and was perfectly
> > > >content to drift back into anonymity."
>
> > > Huh. That's weird. Don't think any other junior slam winner has faile=
d
> > > THAT badly. We have Jarkko Nieminen, 1999 USO boys' champion, who is
> > > having a pretty good career, and now we have Henri Kontinen who made
> > > Wimbledon final last yeat, we'll see what will happen to him.- Hide q=
uoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > yes, it's very strange. I would be surprised if their wasn't more too
> > it than the excerpt implies.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> And look at the long gap without a junior winner who went on to win at
> least one men's major -- no one between Edberg in '83 and Fed at
> junior Wimby '98. =A0The reason being, of course, that Pete and Andre
> transitioned immediately.

In the present era, Baghdatis and Gasquet are good examples of Junior
champs who have lived up to their names. Well, may be not entirely,
but they have had good results.


  
Date: 07 Feb 2009 08:05:01
From: number_six
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
On Feb 7, 6:41=A0am, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 12:55=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 03:53:56 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>
> > <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Feb 6, 11:48=A0am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Professor X wrote:
> > >> > a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I believ=
e,
> > >> > and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pro to=
ur.
>
> > >> No one named Childs won a Junior Slam.
>
> > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_Boys'_Singles_champio=
ns
>
> > >> PS.
>
> > >"Back in the days when Tim Henman was regarded as too scrawny to
> > >consider a top-flight tennis career, a bright, shining light emerged
> > >at the 1993 Australian Open. Baily, second from left, next to Henman,
> > >the training partner of the much-hyped Jamie Delgado, took everybody
> > >by surprise to win the junior title on the Rebound Ace of Flinders
> > >Park. In some circles the victory was seen as heralding a new era in
> > >British tennis, but the experience of facing a nation=92s media on his
> > >homecoming terrified the shy Baily. After playing just one men=92s
> > >event, the 18-year-old turned his back on the game and was perfectly
> > >content to drift back into anonymity."
>
> > Huh. That's weird. Don't think any other junior slam winner has failed
> > THAT badly. We have Jarkko Nieminen, 1999 USO boys' champion, who is
> > having a pretty good career, and now we have Henri Kontinen who made
> > Wimbledon final last yeat, we'll see what will happen to him.- Hide quo=
ted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> yes, it's very strange. I would be surprised if their wasn't more too
> it than the excerpt implies.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And look at the long gap without a junior winner who went on to win at
least one men's major -- no one between Edberg in '83 and Fed at
junior Wimby '98. The reason being, of course, that Pete and Andre
transitioned immediately.


  
Date: 07 Feb 2009 06:41:11
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
On Feb 7, 12:55=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 03:53:56 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>
>
>
>
>
> <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 6, 11:48=A0am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Professor X wrote:
> >> > a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I believe,
> >> > and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pro tour=
.
>
> >> No one named Childs won a Junior Slam.
>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_Boys'_Singles_champions
>
> >> PS.
>
> >"Back in the days when Tim Henman was regarded as too scrawny to
> >consider a top-flight tennis career, a bright, shining light emerged
> >at the 1993 Australian Open. Baily, second from left, next to Henman,
> >the training partner of the much-hyped Jamie Delgado, took everybody
> >by surprise to win the junior title on the Rebound Ace of Flinders
> >Park. In some circles the victory was seen as heralding a new era in
> >British tennis, but the experience of facing a nation=92s media on his
> >homecoming terrified the shy Baily. After playing just one men=92s
> >event, the 18-year-old turned his back on the game and was perfectly
> >content to drift back into anonymity."
>
> Huh. That's weird. Don't think any other junior slam winner has failed
> THAT badly. We have Jarkko Nieminen, 1999 USO boys' champion, who is
> having a pretty good career, and now we have Henri Kontinen who made
> Wimbledon final last yeat, we'll see what will happen to him.- Hide quote=
d text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

yes, it's very strange. I would be surprised if their wasn't more too
it than the excerpt implies.


  
Date: 06 Feb 2009 03:53:56
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
On Feb 6, 11:48=A0am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Professor X wrote:
> > a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I believe,
> > and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pro tour.
>
> No one named Childs won a Junior Slam.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_Boys'_Singles_champions
>
> PS.

"Back in the days when Tim Henman was regarded as too scrawny to
consider a top-flight tennis career, a bright, shining light emerged
at the 1993 Australian Open. Baily, second from left, next to Henman,
the training partner of the much-hyped Jamie Delgado, took everybody
by surprise to win the junior title on the Rebound Ace of Flinders
Park. In some circles the victory was seen as heralding a new era in
British tennis, but the experience of facing a nation=92s media on his
homecoming terrified the shy Baily. After playing just one men=92s
event, the 18-year-old turned his back on the game and was perfectly
content to drift back into anonymity."


   
Date: 07 Feb 2009 14:55:42
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 03:53:56 -0800 (PST), Professor X
<suebokaian@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 6, 11:48†am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Professor X wrote:
>> > a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I believe,
>> > and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pro tour.
>>
>> No one named Childs won a Junior Slam.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_Boys'_Singles_champions
>>
>> PS.
>
>"Back in the days when Tim Henman was regarded as too scrawny to
>consider a top-flight tennis career, a bright, shining light emerged
>at the 1993 Australian Open. Baily, second from left, next to Henman,
>the training partner of the much-hyped Jamie Delgado, took everybody
>by surprise to win the junior title on the Rebound Ace of Flinders
>Park. In some circles the victory was seen as heralding a new era in
>British tennis, but the experience of facing a nationís media on his
>homecoming terrified the shy Baily. After playing just one menís
>event, the 18-year-old turned his back on the game and was perfectly
>content to drift back into anonymity."

Huh. That's weird. Don't think any other junior slam winner has failed
THAT badly. We have Jarkko Nieminen, 1999 USO boys' champion, who is
having a pretty good career, and now we have Henri Kontinen who made
Wimbledon final last yeat, we'll see what will happen to him.


   
Date: 06 Feb 2009 14:37:07
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
Professor X wrote:
> On Feb 6, 11:48 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Professor X wrote:
>>> a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I believe,
>>> and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pro tour.
>> No one named Childs won a Junior Slam.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_Boys'_Singles_champions
>>
>> PS.
>
> "Back in the days when Tim Henman was regarded as too scrawny to
> consider a top-flight tennis career, a bright, shining light emerged
> at the 1993 Australian Open. Baily, second from left, next to Henman,
> the training partner of the much-hyped Jamie Delgado, took everybody
> by surprise to win the junior title on the Rebound Ace of Flinders
> Park. In some circles the victory was seen as heralding a new era in
> British tennis, but the experience of facing a nationís media on his
> homecoming terrified the shy Baily. After playing just one menís
> event, the 18-year-old turned his back on the game and was perfectly
> content to drift back into anonymity."

That's a shame. Always sad when media destroys a talent, but I guess it
is a part of being a professional sportsman nowadays. It seems like
Dimitrov is balanced when it comes to attention.

PS.


  
Date: 06 Feb 2009 03:52:44
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
On Feb 6, 11:48=A0am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Professor X wrote:
> > a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I believe,
> > and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pro tour.
>
> No one named Childs won a Junior Slam.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_Boys'_Singles_champions
>
> PS.

my mistake it was a brit called "James Bailey" at the 93 aus open...
dk what happened to him.... but he didn't go on to have a career.


  
Date: 06 Feb 2009 01:04:36
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
On Feb 5, 8:14=A0pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com > wrote:
> Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I have a good feeling about this player. He has a beautiful one-handed
> > backhand - seldom these days. He won both Wimbledon and US Open for
> > juniors last year. He will play in Rotterdam next week (received a WC).
> > Hope he can do well! He is only 17 years old.
>
> Would be nice to have a good player coming up this fast - no Hewitt-like
> transition period :)
>
> However, let me remind you that Fernando Gonzalez won junior FO singles A=
ND
> doubles when he was 17, and was #1. No such luck in the regular circuit..=
.
>
> And, of course, Nicolas Pereira (who?!?).

a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I believe,
and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pro tour.


   
Date: 06 Feb 2009 12:48:02
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
Professor X wrote:
> a british player called lee childs once won a junior slam I believe,
> and i'm pretty sure he never cracked the top 150-200 on the pro tour.

No one named Childs won a Junior Slam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grand_Slam_Boys'_Singles_champions

PS.


  
Date: 06 Feb 2009 19:16:42
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
Javier Gonzalez wrote:
> Petter Solbu <pettermann1984@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a good feeling about this player. He has a beautiful one-handed
>> backhand - seldom these days. He won both Wimbledon and US Open for
>> juniors last year. He will play in Rotterdam next week (received a WC).
>> Hope he can do well! He is only 17 years old.
>
> Would be nice to have a good player coming up this fast - no Hewitt-like
> transition period :)
>
> However, let me remind you that Fernando Gonzalez won junior FO singles AND
> doubles when he was 17, and was #1. No such luck in the regular circuit...
>
> And, of course, Nicolas Pereira (who?!?).


Mark Kratzmann almost won the junior Calendar Slam.



  
Date: 05 Feb 2009 12:45:25
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
On Feb 5, 12:14 pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com > wrote:
> Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I have a good feeling about this player. He has a beautiful one-handed
> > backhand - seldom these days. He won both Wimbledon and US Open for
> > juniors last year. He will play in Rotterdam next week (received a WC).
> > Hope he can do well! He is only 17 years old.
>
> Would be nice to have a good player coming up this fast - no Hewitt-like
> transition period :)
>
> However, let me remind you that Fernando Gonzalez won junior FO singles AND
> doubles when he was 17, and was #1. No such luck in the regular circuit...

That said, I think if he'd had the benefit of great Stefanki-like
coaching from the get-go, he would have done a lot more damage on the
tour.



   
Date: 05 Feb 2009 22:32:37
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: Dimitrov the new Federer?
Javier Gonzalez wrote:
> Would be nice to have a good player coming up this fast - no Hewitt-like
> transition period :)
>
> However, let me remind you that Fernando Gonzalez won junior FO singles AND
> doubles when he was 17, and was #1. No such luck in the regular circuit...

Of course. The junior and senior circuit are two completely different
animals. So you have to actually see the player performing before you
can say anything. His biggest weakness is his height - I think he is
below 180 cm. It will be exciting to see anyway. He has pulled out of
the junior circuit now and won a couple of futures last year. Maybe he
should concentrate on challengers rather than going for WCs in main draw
at ATP events.

PS.