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Date: 06 Feb 2009 01:58:36
From: ahonkan
Subject: Djokovic & #2: Once so near, now so far ...
Days before AO, Djokovic was 1 victory (10 pts) away
from dislodging Fed and claiming #2. Now he 2000 pts
away (minus 10), with Murray a further 1650 pts away but
closing in. Rafa is a good 3260 pts away from Fed
& seems unlikely to be dislodged from the top spot
this year. It is difficult to see Fed-237 being able to reclaim
#1 or eclipsing the all-time #1 week counts for those
still above him (Sampras-286, Lendl-270, Connors-268).
It is also difficult to see him going past Connors, Lendl or Mac
in title counts. Fed has 57 and when he gets 8 more, he will
overtake, Nastase, Agassi, Vilas, Borg & Sampras.
But he will still be far behind Mac (77), Lendl (94) &
Connors (109).

What a difference a year makes!




 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 00:14:21
From: ahonkan
Subject: Re: Djokovic & #2: Once so near, now so far ...
On Feb 7, 11:03=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Feb 6, 4:58=A0am, ahonkan <ahon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Days before AO, Djokovic was 1 victory (10 pts) away
> > from dislodging Fed and claiming #2. Now he 2000 pts
> > away (minus 10), with Murray a further 1650 pts away but
> > closing in. Rafa is a good 3260 pts away from Fed
> > & seems unlikely to be dislodged from the top spot
> > this year. It is difficult to see Fed-237 being able to reclaim
> > #1 or eclipsing the all-time #1 week counts for those
> > still above him (Sampras-286, Lendl-270, Connors-268).
> > It is also difficult to see him going past Connors, Lendl or Mac
> > in title counts. Fed has 57 and when he gets 8 more, he will
> > overtake, Nastase, Agassi, Vilas, Borg & Sampras.
> > But he will still be far behind Mac (77), Lendl (94) &
> > Connors (109).
>
> > What a difference a year makes!
>
> How is it impossible for Federer to be #1 again?
> Federer did terrible in every tournament last year, and any improvment
> in his results this year will increase his ranking points. But I don't
> thnk this is what he cares about anyway.
>
> In the same time, it's Nadal's turn to work his ass and do better or
> at least defend everything he did last year.

Nothing is impossible, of course. But Rafa has been untouchable
in the clay season and with Fed playing just two clay tourneys
this year, he will fall even further behind. IMO he will play the
least
no. of tournaments from now on and focus on just the slams. That
will reduce his chances of reclaiming #1.
As to total # of titles, he is 20 away from Mac but just 7 from
Pete.
Even if he wins 4-6 per year from now on, it is unlikely that he
will
cross Mac.


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 11:00:17
From:
Subject: Re: Djokovic & #2: Once so near, now so far ...

>
> What a difference a year makes!

What a difference a month makes....Murray to win the AO!


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 10:03:13
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Djokovic & #2: Once so near, now so far ...
On Feb 6, 4:58=A0am, ahonkan <ahon...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Days before AO, Djokovic was 1 victory (10 pts) away
> from dislodging Fed and claiming #2. Now he 2000 pts
> away (minus 10), with Murray a further 1650 pts away but
> closing in. Rafa is a good 3260 pts away from Fed
> & seems unlikely to be dislodged from the top spot
> this year. It is difficult to see Fed-237 being able to reclaim
> #1 or eclipsing the all-time #1 week counts for those
> still above him (Sampras-286, Lendl-270, Connors-268).
> It is also difficult to see him going past Connors, Lendl or Mac
> in title counts. Fed has 57 and when he gets 8 more, he will
> overtake, Nastase, Agassi, Vilas, Borg & Sampras.
> But he will still be far behind Mac (77), Lendl (94) &
> Connors (109).
>
> What a difference a year makes!

How is it impossible for Federer to be #1 again?
Federer did terrible in every tournament last year, and any improvment
in his results this year will increase his ranking points. But I don't
thnk this is what he cares about anyway.

In the same time, it's Nadal's turn to work his ass and do better or
at least defend everything he did last year.



 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 09:53:51
From:
Subject: Re: Djokovic & #2: Once so near, now so far ...
On Feb 7, 4:57=A0pm, wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article
> <049655fc-39a0-4bd9-b39a-9a54d7d78...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> ahon...@gmail.com (ahonkan) wrote:
>
> > Days before AO, Djokovic was 1 victory (10 pts) away
> > from dislodging Fed and claiming #2. Now he 2000 pts
> > away (minus 10), with Murray a further 1650 pts away but
> > closing in. Rafa is a good 3260 pts away from Fed
> > & seems unlikely to be dislodged from the top spot
> > this year. It is difficult to see Fed-237 being able to reclaim
>
> How do you figure? The tennis year is five weeks old. Nadal will have
> plenty to defend, though I imagine he's safe until Wimbledon now.
>

The AO final was a massive game in terms of the rankings - Federer
needed to win it to give himself any chance of catching Nadal in the
near future and now he's even futher behind.

Murray is the one who was #1 on points since Wimbledon but his AO
result has changed all that.

> > #1 or eclipsing the all-time #1 week counts for those
> > still above him (Sampras-286, Lendl-270, Connors-268).
> > It is also difficult to see him going past Connors, Lendl or Mac
> > in title counts. Fed has 57 and when he gets 8 more, he will
>

Mcenroe has 77 titles - that's looking a long way away for Federer.
Sampras finished with 64 which seemed easily in reach a year or two
ago, but even that now ...

> I don't think anyone expects anyone *ever* to get past Connors or Lendl.
> McEnroe, maybe.
>
> > overtake, Nastase, Agassi, Vilas, Borg & Sampras.
> > But he will still be far behind Mac (77), Lendl (94) &
> > Connors (109).
>
> > What a difference a year makes!
>

Yep - not even a year ago Djokovic looked almost certain to be the
next #1. Nadal was struggling and Djokovic was beating him comfortably
on hard courts. Now Djokovic has stalled badly and Nadal has pushed
on.



 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 10:57:50
From:
Subject: Re: Djokovic & #2: Once so near, now so far ...
In article
<049655fc-39a0-4bd9-b39a-9a54d7d78399@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com >,
ahonkan@gmail.com (ahonkan) wrote:

>
> Days before AO, Djokovic was 1 victory (10 pts) away
> from dislodging Fed and claiming #2. Now he 2000 pts
> away (minus 10), with Murray a further 1650 pts away but
> closing in. Rafa is a good 3260 pts away from Fed
> & seems unlikely to be dislodged from the top spot
> this year. It is difficult to see Fed-237 being able to reclaim

How do you figure? The tennis year is five weeks old. Nadal will have
plenty to defend, though I imagine he's safe until Wimbledon now.

> #1 or eclipsing the all-time #1 week counts for those
> still above him (Sampras-286, Lendl-270, Connors-268).
> It is also difficult to see him going past Connors, Lendl or Mac
> in title counts. Fed has 57 and when he gets 8 more, he will

I don't think anyone expects anyone *ever* to get past Connors or Lendl.
McEnroe, maybe.

> overtake, Nastase, Agassi, Vilas, Borg & Sampras.
> But he will still be far behind Mac (77), Lendl (94) &
> Connors (109).
>
> What a difference a year makes!

That's why they play the matches...

wg