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Date: 10 Jan 2009 09:26:48
From: Professor X
Subject: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
First Serve --- Federer more accurate, murray more power. - Draw
Second Serve - Federer wins... murray prone to just roll it in
sometimes.

Forehand-- Federer a more versatile shot, and more of a weapon but
much more inconsistent/ prone to errors/shanks.... slight edge fed.

Backhand --- Huge edge murray

Volley - Draw

Movement - Federer moves more fluidly, but murray can just get
everything...-- edge murray

Tactical- Fed seems unable to change his way of playing or adapt -
murray wins this one too.

Is muzza just better than fed?




 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 06:46:10
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Jan 20, 2:34=A0pm, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> > Federer btw was won 13 so far.-
>
> and counting...

the counting stops at 13 im afraid

unlucky number 13 y'know,


 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 06:34:11
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
> Federer btw was won 13 so far.-

and counting...


 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 02:38:50
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On 20 jan, 04:38, "chrome" <chr...@nospam.invalid > wrote:
> "Professor X" <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote...
> > Volley - Draw
>
> I'd say Murray is a much better volleyer than Federer. =A0For one, he doe=
s
> drop volleys, a key thing. =A0Federer scorns them. =A0And Murray has a fe=
el for
> them. =A0Federer has nearly zilch in drop volleys. =A0Federer doesn't hav=
e much
> feel for how to *win* at the net. =A0Murray has great feel for this. =A0A=
sense
> of when it's good to attack just for the hell of it. =A0Federer has zero =
on
> that score. =A0Even just volleying strokes wise, Murray you'd have to pla=
ce
> higher I think. =A0But when you add the mental and the ability to exploit=
the
> net, Murray is way higher.

Federer had some nice points at the net yesterday including at least
pretty good dropper. I think you've been listening to Whimper too
much. If he didn't have much feel for how to win at the net how does
he generally have such high percentages at the net? Around 70-80% is
not unusual for him and he certainly comes in more then Murray.


  
Date: 20 Jan 2009 10:44:12
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:38:50 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
<ljubitsis@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On 20 jan, 04:38, "chrome" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> "Professor X" <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote...
>> > Volley - Draw
>>
>> I'd say Murray is a much better volleyer than Federer.  For one, he does
>> drop volleys, a key thing.  Federer scorns them.  And Murray has a feel for
>> them.  Federer has nearly zilch in drop volleys.  Federer doesn't have much
>> feel for how to *win* at the net.  Murray has great feel for this.  A sense
>> of when it's good to attack just for the hell of it.  Federer has zero on
>> that score.  Even just volleying strokes wise, Murray you'd have to place
>> higher I think.  But when you add the mental and the ability to exploit the
>> net, Murray is way higher.
>
>Federer had some nice points at the net yesterday including at least
>pretty good dropper. I think you've been listening to Whimper too
>much. If he didn't have much feel for how to win at the net how does
>he generally have such high percentages at the net? Around 70-80% is
>not unusual for him and he certainly comes in more then Murray.


all his nonsense is sour grapes. right now the only "feel" murray has
is for "not winning any slams".

Federer btw was won 13 so far.


 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 03:38:47
From: chrome
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
"Professor X" <suebokaian@hotmail.com > wrote...
> Volley - Draw

I'd say Murray is a much better volleyer than Federer. For one, he does
drop volleys, a key thing. Federer scorns them. And Murray has a feel for
them. Federer has nearly zilch in drop volleys. Federer doesn't have much
feel for how to *win* at the net. Murray has great feel for this. A sense
of when it's good to attack just for the hell of it. Federer has zero on
that score. Even just volleying strokes wise, Murray you'd have to place
higher I think. But when you add the mental and the ability to exploit the
net, Murray is way higher.



  
Date: 20 Jan 2009 04:52:52
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:38:47 GMT, "chrome" <chrome@nospam.invalid >
wrote:

>"Professor X" <suebokaian@hotmail.com> wrote...
>> Volley - Draw
>
>I'd say Murray is a much better volleyer than Federer. For one, he does
>drop volleys, a key thing. Federer scorns them. And Murray has a feel for
>them. Federer has nearly zilch in drop volleys. Federer doesn't have much
>feel for how to *win* at the net. Murray has great feel for this. A sense
>of when it's good to attack just for the hell of it. Federer has zero on
>that score. Even just volleying strokes wise, Murray you'd have to place
>higher I think. But when you add the mental and the ability to exploit the
>net, Murray is way higher.


He does one thing a whole lot better. He wins slams.

Roger 13 Murray 0


 
Date: 11 Jan 2009 22:51:59
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
Federer used to do everything better than Murray but the Federer we
see now is only a shadow of the player we saw a year ago.
It happens to the best of us :)



 
Date: 11 Jan 2009 21:32:14
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Jan 12, 12:24=A0am, kaennorsing <ljubit...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 12 jan, 04:56, "Dr. GroundAxe" <ground...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "kaennorsing" <ljubit...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:3cd5d6d4-c161-4c25-af50-17e9a6479cdc@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com..=
.
>
> > > On 10 jan, 18:26, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> First Serve --- Federer more accurate, murray more power. - Draw
> > >> Second Serve - Federer wins... murray prone to just roll it in
> > >> sometimes.
>
> > >> Forehand-- Federer a more versatile shot, and more of a weapon but
> > >> much more inconsistent/ prone to errors/shanks.... slight edge fed.
>
> > > Make this a hudge edge Federer
>
> > >> Backhand --- Huge edge murray
>
> > > Make this a slight edge Murray
>
> > >> Volley - Draw
>
> > >> Movement - Federer moves more fluidly, but murray can just get
> > >> everything...-- edge murray
>
> > > I'd say they're about equals in speed atm, but Murray stands further
> > > back so can run down more balls.
>
> > >> Tactical- Fed seems unable to change his way of playing or adapt -
> > >> murray wins this one too.
>
> > > Are you serious? I've seen Federer change tactics numerous times. He
> > > actually changed his whole game considerably over the years.
>
> > > Murray has a lot of options in his game but Federer still more.
>
> > > Also Federer has a slightly better passing shot and controls the poin=
t
> > > slightly better. What's more important is he peaks for the slams.
> > > Perhaps we'll see Murray do the same in the future?
>
> > Congratulations, this is by far the most retarded thing I've ever seen
> > posted here. Quite an achievement you fuckwit.
>
> ? Explanation please...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

because you said Federer is good and/or Federer could be better than
Murray...

Don't you think this is enough?!


 
Date: 11 Jan 2009 21:24:23
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On 12 jan, 04:56, "Dr. GroundAxe" <ground...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> "kaennorsing" <ljubit...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3cd5d6d4-c161-4c25-af50-17e9a6479cdc@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 10 jan, 18:26, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> First Serve --- Federer more accurate, murray more power. - Draw
> >> Second Serve - Federer wins... murray prone to just roll it in
> >> sometimes.
>
> >> Forehand-- Federer a more versatile shot, and more of a weapon but
> >> much more inconsistent/ prone to errors/shanks.... slight edge fed.
>
> > Make this a hudge edge Federer
>
> >> Backhand --- Huge edge murray
>
> > Make this a slight edge Murray
>
> >> Volley - Draw
>
> >> Movement - Federer moves more fluidly, but murray can just get
> >> everything...-- edge murray
>
> > I'd say they're about equals in speed atm, but Murray stands further
> > back so can run down more balls.
>
> >> Tactical- Fed seems unable to change his way of playing or adapt -
> >> murray wins this one too.
>
> > Are you serious? I've seen Federer change tactics numerous times. He
> > actually changed his whole game considerably over the years.
>
> > Murray has a lot of options in his game but Federer still more.
>
> > Also Federer has a slightly better passing shot and controls the point
> > slightly better. What's more important is he peaks for the slams.
> > Perhaps we'll see Murray do the same in the future?
>
> Congratulations, this is by far the most retarded thing I've ever seen
> posted here. Quite an achievement you fuckwit.

? Explanation please...


 
Date: 11 Jan 2009 17:33:02
From: ca1houn
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Jan 11, 12:46=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:39:31 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Jason Catlin wrote:
> >>> On Jan 10, 2:34 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
> >>>> Murray's problem would be that he somewhat lacks power, let's see if
> >>>> this makes a difference on clay.
> >>> Murray's ability to mix up spins, looping and then smacking a flat
> >>> skidding shot is ideal for
> >>> hard courts, but I seriously doubt he's got the goods to beat Nadal o=
n
> >>> clay.
>
> >>> Just like everybody else, he'll have to hope Rafa gets injured or
> >>> something.
>
> >> Mecir killed all the Swedes on clay at his peak, so I can see it
> >> happening. =A0In fact I'd say Muzza is the only guy with any chance of
> >> besting Rafa at FO.
>
> > That shows exactly how little you know about tennis pal. They again
> > what would any sampras fan know about clay !
>
> > 8 LOSSES IN R1/R2 !!! NO FINALS !
>
> > ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>
> 3 LOSSES IN A FINAL! LOL!
>
> --
> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"

Wait making it to a final as opposites too losing in the 1st or 2nd
round is bad? i rather give myself the chance, the to leave with a
wack ass check that want even cover plane fees


  
Date: 12 Jan 2009 16:55:52
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
ca1houn wrote:
>>>>> something.
>>>> Mecir killed all the Swedes on clay at his peak, so I can see it
>>>> happening. In fact I'd say Muzza is the only guy with any chance of
>>>> besting Rafa at FO.
>>> That shows exactly how little you know about tennis pal. They again
>>> what would any sampras fan know about clay !
>>> 8 LOSSES IN R1/R2 !!! NO FINALS !
>>> ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>> 3 LOSSES IN A FINAL! LOL!
>>
>> --
>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>
> Wait making it to a final as opposites too losing in the 1st or 2nd
> round is bad? i rather give myself the chance, the to leave with a
> wack ass check that want even cover plane fees


'wack ass' is a good description of Fed's 61 63 60 drubbing in last FO
final.


 
Date: 11 Jan 2009 13:11:41
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On 10 jan, 18:26, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> First Serve --- Federer more accurate, murray more power. - Draw
> Second Serve - Federer wins... murray prone to just roll it in
> sometimes.
>
> Forehand-- Federer a more versatile shot, and more of a weapon but
> much more inconsistent/ prone to errors/shanks.... slight edge fed.

Make this a hudge edge Federer

> Backhand --- Huge edge murray

Make this a slight edge Murray

> Volley - Draw
>
> Movement - Federer moves more fluidly, but murray can just get
> everything...-- edge murray

I'd say they're about equals in speed atm, but Murray stands further
back so can run down more balls.

> Tactical- Fed seems unable to change his way of playing or adapt -
> murray wins this one too.

Are you serious? I've seen Federer change tactics numerous times. He
actually changed his whole game considerably over the years.

Murray has a lot of options in his game but Federer still more.

Also Federer has a slightly better passing shot and controls the point
slightly better. What's more important is he peaks for the slams.
Perhaps we'll see Murray do the same in the future?


  
Date: 12 Jan 2009 03:56:09
From: Dr. GroundAxe
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray

"kaennorsing" <ljubitsis@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:3cd5d6d4-c161-4c25-af50-17e9a6479cdc@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> On 10 jan, 18:26, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> First Serve --- Federer more accurate, murray more power. - Draw
>> Second Serve - Federer wins... murray prone to just roll it in
>> sometimes.
>>
>> Forehand-- Federer a more versatile shot, and more of a weapon but
>> much more inconsistent/ prone to errors/shanks.... slight edge fed.
>
> Make this a hudge edge Federer
>
>> Backhand --- Huge edge murray
>
> Make this a slight edge Murray
>
>> Volley - Draw
>>
>> Movement - Federer moves more fluidly, but murray can just get
>> everything...-- edge murray
>
> I'd say they're about equals in speed atm, but Murray stands further
> back so can run down more balls.
>
>> Tactical- Fed seems unable to change his way of playing or adapt -
>> murray wins this one too.
>
> Are you serious? I've seen Federer change tactics numerous times. He
> actually changed his whole game considerably over the years.
>
> Murray has a lot of options in his game but Federer still more.
>
> Also Federer has a slightly better passing shot and controls the point
> slightly better. What's more important is he peaks for the slams.
> Perhaps we'll see Murray do the same in the future?


Congratulations, this is by far the most retarded thing I've ever seen
posted here. Quite an achievement you fuckwit.



 
Date: 11 Jan 2009 12:10:54
From: ca1houn
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Jan 10, 9:26=A0am, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> First Serve --- Federer more accurate, murray more power. - Draw
> Second Serve - Federer wins... murray prone to just roll it in
> sometimes.
>
> Forehand-- Federer a more versatile shot, and more of a weapon but
> much more inconsistent/ prone to errors/shanks.... slight edge fed.
>
> Backhand --- Huge edge murray
>
> Volley - Draw
>
> Movement - Federer moves more fluidly, but murray can just get
> everything...-- edge murray
>
> Tactical- Fed seems unable to change his way of playing or adapt -
> murray wins this one too.
>
> Is muzza just better than fed?

what federer does better, well let see. Bitch he win slams! WTF do you
really think Murray is going to do have a fed like career.


 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 12:09:36
From: Lax
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
Federer in the late rounds of slams usually has his backhand tuned to
work pretty well and has his forehand firing like a shotgun. I can't
wait to see Fed vs. Murray at AO (hope it happens in F, but wouldn't
mind SF either).



 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 11:38:14
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Jan 10, 12:26=A0pm, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> First Serve --- Federer more accurate, murray more power. - Draw
> Second Serve - Federer wins... murray prone to just roll it in
> sometimes.
>
> Forehand-- Federer a more versatile shot, and more of a weapon but
> much more inconsistent/ prone to errors/shanks.... slight edge fed.
>
> Backhand --- Huge edge murray
>
> Volley - Draw
>
> Movement - Federer moves more fluidly, but murray can just get
> everything...-- edge murray
>
> Tactical- Fed seems unable to change his way of playing or adapt -
> murray wins this one too.
>
> Is muzza just better than fed?

yes, Federer plays tennis.


 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 11:38:15
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Jan 10, 2:34=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:

>
> Murray's problem would be that he somewhat lacks power, let's see if
> this makes a difference on clay.

Murray's ability to mix up spins, looping and then smacking a flat
skidding shot is ideal for
hard courts, but I seriously doubt he's got the goods to beat Nadal on
clay.

Just like everybody else, he'll have to hope Rafa gets injured or
something.



  
Date: 11 Jan 2009 19:39:31
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
Jason Catlin wrote:
> On Jan 10, 2:34 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
>> Murray's problem would be that he somewhat lacks power, let's see if
>> this makes a difference on clay.
>
> Murray's ability to mix up spins, looping and then smacking a flat
> skidding shot is ideal for
> hard courts, but I seriously doubt he's got the goods to beat Nadal on
> clay.
>
> Just like everybody else, he'll have to hope Rafa gets injured or
> something.
>



Mecir killed all the Swedes on clay at his peak, so I can see it
happening. In fact I'd say Muzza is the only guy with any chance of
besting Rafa at FO.



   
Date: 11 Jan 2009 12:01:12
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:39:31 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Jason Catlin wrote:
>> On Jan 10, 2:34 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Murray's problem would be that he somewhat lacks power, let's see if
>>> this makes a difference on clay.
>>
>> Murray's ability to mix up spins, looping and then smacking a flat
>> skidding shot is ideal for
>> hard courts, but I seriously doubt he's got the goods to beat Nadal on
>> clay.
>>
>> Just like everybody else, he'll have to hope Rafa gets injured or
>> something.
>>
>
>
>
>Mecir killed all the Swedes on clay at his peak, so I can see it
>happening. In fact I'd say Muzza is the only guy with any chance of
>besting Rafa at FO.

That shows exactly how little you know about tennis pal. They again
what would any sampras fan know about clay !

8 LOSSES IN R1/R2 !!! NO FINALS !

ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


    
Date: 11 Jan 2009 22:46:29
From: TT
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:39:31 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Jason Catlin wrote:
>>> On Jan 10, 2:34 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Murray's problem would be that he somewhat lacks power, let's see if
>>>> this makes a difference on clay.
>>> Murray's ability to mix up spins, looping and then smacking a flat
>>> skidding shot is ideal for
>>> hard courts, but I seriously doubt he's got the goods to beat Nadal on
>>> clay.
>>>
>>> Just like everybody else, he'll have to hope Rafa gets injured or
>>> something.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Mecir killed all the Swedes on clay at his peak, so I can see it
>> happening. In fact I'd say Muzza is the only guy with any chance of
>> besting Rafa at FO.
>
> That shows exactly how little you know about tennis pal. They again
> what would any sampras fan know about clay !
>
> 8 LOSSES IN R1/R2 !!! NO FINALS !
>
> ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

3 LOSSES IN A FINAL! LOL!

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


     
Date: 11 Jan 2009 22:52:15
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:46:29 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org > wrote:

>Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:39:31 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jason Catlin wrote:
>>>> On Jan 10, 2:34 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Murray's problem would be that he somewhat lacks power, let's see if
>>>>> this makes a difference on clay.
>>>> Murray's ability to mix up spins, looping and then smacking a flat
>>>> skidding shot is ideal for
>>>> hard courts, but I seriously doubt he's got the goods to beat Nadal on
>>>> clay.
>>>>
>>>> Just like everybody else, he'll have to hope Rafa gets injured or
>>>> something.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mecir killed all the Swedes on clay at his peak, so I can see it
>>> happening. In fact I'd say Muzza is the only guy with any chance of
>>> besting Rafa at FO.
>>
>> That shows exactly how little you know about tennis pal. They again
>> what would any sampras fan know about clay !
>>
>> 8 LOSSES IN R1/R2 !!! NO FINALS !
>>
>> ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>
>3 LOSSES IN A FINAL! LOL!

That's hell of a lot better.



      
Date: 11 Jan 2009 23:20:18
From: TT
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:46:29 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:39:31 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jason Catlin wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2:34 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Murray's problem would be that he somewhat lacks power, let's see if
>>>>>> this makes a difference on clay.
>>>>> Murray's ability to mix up spins, looping and then smacking a flat
>>>>> skidding shot is ideal for
>>>>> hard courts, but I seriously doubt he's got the goods to beat Nadal on
>>>>> clay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like everybody else, he'll have to hope Rafa gets injured or
>>>>> something.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mecir killed all the Swedes on clay at his peak, so I can see it
>>>> happening. In fact I'd say Muzza is the only guy with any chance of
>>>> besting Rafa at FO.
>>> That shows exactly how little you know about tennis pal. They again
>>> what would any sampras fan know about clay !
>>>
>>> 8 LOSSES IN R1/R2 !!! NO FINALS !
>>>
>>> ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>> 3 LOSSES IN A FINAL! LOL!
>
> That's hell of a lot better.
>

Federer will probably see nightmares about it rest of his life.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 21:52:12
From: TT
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
Jason Catlin wrote:
> On Jan 10, 2:34 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
>> Murray's problem would be that he somewhat lacks power, let's see if
>> this makes a difference on clay.
>
> Murray's ability to mix up spins, looping and then smacking a flat
> skidding shot is ideal for
> hard courts, but I seriously doubt he's got the goods to beat Nadal on
> clay.
>
> Just like everybody else, he'll have to hope Rafa gets injured or
> something.
>

Yes he has nothing on Nadal on clay...I meant the other players...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 21:34:45
From: TT
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
Professor X wrote:
> First Serve --- Federer more accurate, murray more power. - Draw
> Second Serve - Federer wins... murray prone to just roll it in
> sometimes.
>
> Forehand-- Federer a more versatile shot, and more of a weapon but
> much more inconsistent/ prone to errors/shanks.... slight edge fed.
>
> Backhand --- Huge edge murray
>
> Volley - Draw
>
> Movement - Federer moves more fluidly, but murray can just get
> everything...-- edge murray
>
> Tactical- Fed seems unable to change his way of playing or adapt -
> murray wins this one too.
>
> Is muzza just better than fed?

Yes he is and more talented.

Federer has more power with his forehand which can make a difference on
a good day.
You forgot to mention that Murray is a better returner which makes a
huge difference.

Watching today's final Murray's game just seemed completely
effortless...how he absorbs the power seemingly not hitting hard himself
at all. But he can come up with goods when need be as we saw today with
all his great passing shots.

Murray's problem would be that he somewhat lacks power, let's see if
this makes a difference on clay.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 22:18:22
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Does federer actually do anything better than murray
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:34:45 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org > wrote:

>Watching today's final Murray's game just seemed completely
>effortless...how he absorbs the power seemingly not hitting hard himself
>at all. But he can come up with goods when need be as we saw today with
>all his great passing shots.

The difference is so big between Murray and someone like Roddick these
days, that it looks like he is just having fun there.