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Date: 09 Jan 2009 09:30:10
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
where the No. 4
with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.




 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 16:39:13
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
On Jan 9, 7:34=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:30:10 -0800 (PST), Jason Catlin
>
> <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
> >where the No. 4
> >with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
> >ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.
>
> No, I don't think there has been a situation where the 4 with no Slams
> goes in as favorite with three players ranked ahead of him with a
> combined 19 Slams. That's a pretty specific situation =A0:-)
>
> I started seriously thinking today can he win AO. He is playing the
> best tennis at the moment, but I have the feeling he is not going to
> win it.

Well I wasn't referring to a situation with 3 players with EXACTLY 19
Slams combined ;-)

But I think you get my point.


 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 02:34:32
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:30:10 -0800 (PST), Jason Catlin
<jason-catlin@hotmail.com > wrote:

>I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
>where the No. 4
>with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
>ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.

No, I don't think there has been a situation where the 4 with no Slams
goes in as favorite with three players ranked ahead of him with a
combined 19 Slams. That's a pretty specific situation :-)

I started seriously thinking today can he win AO. He is playing the
best tennis at the moment, but I have the feeling he is not going to
win it.


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 00:38:49
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?

On 9-Jan-2009, Sakari Lund <sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote:

> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:30:10 -0800 (PST), Jason Catlin
> <jason-catlin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
> >where the No. 4
> >with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
> >ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.
>
> No, I don't think there has been a situation where the 4 with no Slams
> goes in as favorite with three players ranked ahead of him with a
> combined 19 Slams. That's a pretty specific situation :-)
>
> I started seriously thinking today can he win AO. He is playing the
> best tennis at the moment, but I have the feeling he is not going to
> win it.

My sentiments exactly. I also think it could hurt his confidence a lot if
he does lose it. I don't *want* Murray to lose confidence and revert to his
former mental state because I like the guy and think he's a good player.
But, I still think his newfound maturity needs to be tested as these kinds
of things don't always last...


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 13:41:39
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
On Jan 9, 4:35=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Jason Catlin wrote:
> > I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
> > where the No. 4
> > with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
> > ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.
>
> That's true, not a common situation.
>
> Nadal, though, was ranked 5th and the favourite for going into 2005
> Roland Garros I believe.

Yes, I think I mentioned that particular Slam in another post. But
there aren't too many guys
as mentally tough as Rafa who can handle that unusual and burdensome
situation of being heavy favorite despite
limited experience.


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 23:35:38
From: TT
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
Jason Catlin wrote:
> I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
> where the No. 4
> with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
> ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.

That's true, not a common situation.

Nadal, though, was ranked 5th and the favourite for going into 2005
Roland Garros I believe.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:14:09
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
On 10 Jan., 00:11, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 9, 12:38=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Jan 9, 5:30=A0pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situatio=
n
> > > where the No. 4
> > > with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
> > > ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.
>
> > Yes, he's certainly the favourite on current form.
>
> If that's the case though, the next question is how does he handle
> that. It's one thing
> to sneak up on people, but to be the favorite in a Slam for the first
> time with legends chomping
> at the bit to take you down? Tough situation for Murray.

I think Murray will crumble. But you never know.


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 10:49:22
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 10 Jan., 00:11, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 9, 12:38 pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 9, 5:30 pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
>>>> where the No. 4
>>>> with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
>>>> ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.
>>> Yes, he's certainly the favourite on current form.
>> If that's the case though, the next question is how does he handle
>> that. It's one thing
>> to sneak up on people, but to be the favorite in a Slam for the first
>> time with legends chomping
>> at the bit to take you down? Tough situation for Murray.
>
> I think Murray will crumble. But you never know.


Depends on whether you see Murray as a multi slam champ (I do) or a
Jankovic type - he has to win the 1st at some point & this is ideal
setting. Barring injury or Tsonga-like performance from some freak
he'll make final at least.



 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:11:27
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
On Jan 9, 12:38=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 9, 5:30=A0pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
> > where the No. 4
> > with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
> > ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.
>
> Yes, he's certainly the favourite on current form.

If that's the case though, the next question is how does he handle
that. It's one thing
to sneak up on people, but to be the favorite in a Slam for the first
time with legends chomping
at the bit to take you down? Tough situation for Murray.


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 10:47:11
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
Jason Catlin wrote:
> On Jan 9, 12:38 pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Jan 9, 5:30 pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
>>> where the No. 4
>>> with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
>>> ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.
>> Yes, he's certainly the favourite on current form.
>
> If that's the case though, the next question is how does he handle
> that. It's one thing
> to sneak up on people, but to be the favorite in a Slam for the first
> time with legends chomping
> at the bit to take you down? Tough situation for Murray.


It is, but if he's going to win slams he has to start somewhere & AO
should be lowest pressure out of the 4. He's been working incredibly
hard last 6 months & it'll take helluvva match to knock him out pre-final.



 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 09:41:06
From: ca1houn
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
On Jan 9, 9:38=A0am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 9, 5:30=A0pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
> > where the No. 4
> > with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
> > ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.
>
> Yes, he's certainly the favourite on current form.

hell-no win something before your a slam and the something has to be a
slam


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 09:38:05
From:
Subject: Re: Does the Slam-less World No. 4 go into the AO as the favorite?
On Jan 9, 5:30=A0pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> I've been watching tennis a long time and I can't remember a situation
> where the No. 4
> with no Slams goes in as favorite, even with three players ranked
> ahead of him with a combined 19 Slams.

Yes, he's certainly the favourite on current form.