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Date: 02 Feb 2009 15:53:06
From: Raja
Subject: Dominating fast hard courts and clay - the two major surfaces
French Open = clay
US Open = fast hc

They are the two major surfaces on the tour. If you cannot dominate
them, you are no GOAT.

These are the man and women who have won both FO and USO twice.

Men
-------
Lendl won FO 3 times and US Open 3 times both minimum 3 times a record
for men !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Women
----------
Evert won FO 7 times and US Open on fast hard courts 3 times
Navratilova won FO 2 times and US Open 4 times
Graf won FO 7 times and US Open 5 times.... both minimum 5 times a
record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seles won FO 3 times and US Open 2 times

No one else has done it. So this is so fucking difficult, isn't it?
Agassi won FO once (and also won USO), Wilander won USO once (and also
FO) and Serena won FO once (and also USO)

Neither Nadal or Federer have done it yet. Nor have Venus Williams or
Sharapova.





 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 16:09:38
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Dominating fast hard courts and clay - the two major surfaces
On Feb 2, 6:06=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 3, 12:00=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 2, 6:53=A0pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > French Open =3D clay
> > > US Open =3D fast hc
>
> > > They are the two major surfaces on the tour. If you cannot dominate
> > > them, you are no GOAT.
>
> > > These are the man and women who have won both FO and USO twice.
>
> > > Men
> > > -------
> > > Lendl won FO 3 times and US Open 3 times both minimum 3 times a recor=
d
> > > for men !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > > Women
> > > ----------
> > > Evert won FO 7 times and US Open on fast hard courts 3 times
> > > Navratilova won FO 2 times and US Open 4 times
> > > Graf won FO 7 times and US Open 5 times.... both minimum 5 times a
> > > record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > Seles won FO 3 times and US Open 2 times
>
> > > No one else has done it. So this is so fucking difficult, isn't it?
> > > Agassi won FO once (and also won USO), Wilander won USO once (and als=
o
> > > FO) and Serena won FO once (and also USO)
>
> > > Neither Nadal or Federer have done it yet. Nor have Venus Williams or
> > > Sharapova.
>
> > Raja, let me ask you something. You cited Rotten Tomatoes a while ago
> > as some sort of proof that
> > Revolutionary Road probably isn't that great of a movie. Why? Because
> > the *critics* as a whole didn't like
> > it all that much.
>
> > Now, what do you think the verdict would be if you asked 50 tennis
> > writers and historians (the Rotten Tomatoes of tennis) to state
> > whether or not Lendl is the greatest tennis player of all time? How
> > many ripe red tomatoes would Lendl get and how many rotten green
> > splats?
>
> You've gotta hand it to Raj though ... surely no-one else could come
> up with so many different hare-brained ranking schemes purely designed
> to come up with Lendl as the GOAT ... full marks for effort ...

lol, I disagree. They are not hare-brained. I am quite intelligent you
know. If you were to meet me, you would know.




 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 16:06:38
From:
Subject: Re: Dominating fast hard courts and clay - the two major surfaces
On Feb 3, 12:00=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 6:53=A0pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > French Open =3D clay
> > US Open =3D fast hc
>
> > They are the two major surfaces on the tour. If you cannot dominate
> > them, you are no GOAT.
>
> > These are the man and women who have won both FO and USO twice.
>
> > Men
> > -------
> > Lendl won FO 3 times and US Open 3 times both minimum 3 times a record
> > for men !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > Women
> > ----------
> > Evert won FO 7 times and US Open on fast hard courts 3 times
> > Navratilova won FO 2 times and US Open 4 times
> > Graf won FO 7 times and US Open 5 times.... both minimum 5 times a
> > record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > Seles won FO 3 times and US Open 2 times
>
> > No one else has done it. So this is so fucking difficult, isn't it?
> > Agassi won FO once (and also won USO), Wilander won USO once (and also
> > FO) and Serena won FO once (and also USO)
>
> > Neither Nadal or Federer have done it yet. Nor have Venus Williams or
> > Sharapova.
>
> Raja, let me ask you something. You cited Rotten Tomatoes a while ago
> as some sort of proof that
> Revolutionary Road probably isn't that great of a movie. Why? Because
> the *critics* as a whole didn't like
> it all that much.
>
> Now, what do you think the verdict would be if you asked 50 tennis
> writers and historians (the Rotten Tomatoes of tennis) to state
> whether or not Lendl is the greatest tennis player of all time? How
> many ripe red tomatoes would Lendl get and how many rotten green
> splats?

You've gotta hand it to Raj though ... surely no-one else could come
up with so many different hare-brained ranking schemes purely designed
to come up with Lendl as the GOAT ... full marks for effort ...





 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 16:05:34
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Dominating fast hard courts and clay - the two major surfaces
On Feb 2, 6:00=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 6:53=A0pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > French Open =3D clay
> > US Open =3D fast hc
>
> > They are the two major surfaces on the tour. If you cannot dominate
> > them, you are no GOAT.
>
> > These are the man and women who have won both FO and USO twice.
>
> > Men
> > -------
> > Lendl won FO 3 times and US Open 3 times both minimum 3 times a record
> > for men !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > Women
> > ----------
> > Evert won FO 7 times and US Open on fast hard courts 3 times
> > Navratilova won FO 2 times and US Open 4 times
> > Graf won FO 7 times and US Open 5 times.... both minimum 5 times a
> > record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > Seles won FO 3 times and US Open 2 times
>
> > No one else has done it. So this is so fucking difficult, isn't it?
> > Agassi won FO once (and also won USO), Wilander won USO once (and also
> > FO) and Serena won FO once (and also USO)
>
> > Neither Nadal or Federer have done it yet. Nor have Venus Williams or
> > Sharapova.
>
> Raja, let me ask you something. You cited Rotten Tomatoes a while ago
> as some sort of proof that
> Revolutionary Road probably isn't that great of a movie. Why? Because
> the *critics* as a whole didn't like
> it all that much.
>
> Now, what do you think the verdict would be if you asked 50 tennis
> writers and historians (the Rotten Tomatoes of tennis) to state
> whether or not Lendl is the greatest tennis player of all time? How
> many ripe red tomatoes would Lendl get and how many rotten green
> splats?

Movies dont have stats to be measured on. They are usually judged from
an artistic/entertainment point of view. Tennis champs are judged on
stats which are tangible. Not a good analogy.

Nice try by the way.

And I wasnt serious about rotten tomatoes.



 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 16:00:42
From:
Subject: Re: Dominating fast hard courts and clay - the two major surfaces
On Feb 2, 6:53=A0pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> French Open =3D clay
> US Open =3D fast hc
>
> They are the two major surfaces on the tour. If you cannot dominate
> them, you are no GOAT.
>
> These are the man and women who have won both FO and USO twice.
>
> Men
> -------
> Lendl won FO 3 times and US Open 3 times both minimum 3 times a record
> for men !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Women
> ----------
> Evert won FO 7 times and US Open on fast hard courts 3 times
> Navratilova won FO 2 times and US Open 4 times
> Graf won FO 7 times and US Open 5 times.... both minimum 5 times a
> record!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Seles won FO 3 times and US Open 2 times
>
> No one else has done it. So this is so fucking difficult, isn't it?
> Agassi won FO once (and also won USO), Wilander won USO once (and also
> FO) and Serena won FO once (and also USO)
>
> Neither Nadal or Federer have done it yet. Nor have Venus Williams or
> Sharapova.

Raja, let me ask you something. You cited Rotten Tomatoes a while ago
as some sort of proof that
Revolutionary Road probably isn't that great of a movie. Why? Because
the *critics* as a whole didn't like
it all that much.

Now, what do you think the verdict would be if you asked 50 tennis
writers and historians (the Rotten Tomatoes of tennis) to state
whether or not Lendl is the greatest tennis player of all time? How
many ripe red tomatoes would Lendl get and how many rotten green
splats?