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Date: 04 Feb 2009 04:32:42
From: GOAT
Subject: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
strength.

Borg 10
Connors 10
Nadal 10
Sampras 9.5
Lendl 9
Wilander 6
Edberg 5
McEnroe 5
Agassi 4
Becker 4
Fed 3

Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........




 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 14:07:10
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 4:55=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:36:13 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 4, 7:32=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> >> strength.
>
> >> Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> >> Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> >> Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> >> Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> >> Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> >> Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> >> Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> >> McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> >> Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> >> Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> >> Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> >> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> >Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
> >a Slam except a fellow Slam
> >champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> That just means that his talent is totally off the chart. Weakest of
> all mentally, but only Sampras has more slams. Imagine if he was a 6
> mentally...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Please tell me you're joking.


  
Date: 05 Feb 2009 00:13:12
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:07:10 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Feb 4, 4:55 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:36:13 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
>> >> strength.
>>
>> >> Borg                 10
>> >> Connors            10
>> >> Nadal                10
>> >> Sampras            9.5
>> >> Lendl                 9
>> >> Wilander            6
>> >> Edberg               5
>> >> McEnroe            5
>> >> Agassi               4
>> >> Becker               4
>> >> Fed                    3
>>
>> >> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>>
>> >Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
>> >a Slam except a fellow Slam
>> >champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>>
>> That just means that his talent is totally off the chart. Weakest of
>> all mentally, but only Sampras has more slams. Imagine if he was a 6
>> mentally...- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Please tell me you're joking.

Just following the logic of the original post. I don't think threads
like this are supposed to be taken seriously. This week is the time
for typical "after Fed - Nadal slam final" threads.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 22:45:03
From: amy
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 8:22=A0am, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 8:06=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 1:58 pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 6:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > > strength.
>
> > > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > Sampras should rate the highest. Connors sometimes harmed himself wit=
h
> > > his antics. Lendl choked on ocassions. He is more like a 6 or
> > > something. I wouldnt call him that mentally strong. Nadal hasnt faced
> > > too many dramatic situations yet. I say you are underrating McEnroe.
>
> > I rate the likes of Connors and Lendl very highly because they had
> > great results despite little talent.
>
> You are a true moron of incredibly epic proportions. Connors lacked
> weapons but his groundstrokes were almost perfect. Deep and side to
> side. And he was a pretty good volleyer as well. Lendl had incredible
> groundstrokes and power from the baseline. He did those with those
> tiny racket heads. Ask Federer to do what he does with Lendl's
> rackets.
>
> Go back to tennis 101.
>
>
>
> >Mac virtually quit the game in
> > his mid 20s because of drug use and generally going off the rails - he
> > is not a mental giant.
>
> > Tbh I think Nadal is top of this list. Fed, who was previously a 7 or
> > 8, has shown himself to be a mental midget when faced with real
> > competition, hence he has plummeted to 3.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You are a true moron of incredibly epic proportions.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:18:57
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 7:32=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> strength.
>
> Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........



Agree 100%


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 17:03:42
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 5:02=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 4, 5:26=A0pm, "Iceberg" <big_bad_iceb...@moc.oohay> wrote:
>
>
>
> > <jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:b026c884-24e3-4cf7-a24f-f2a0fc874188@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> > On Feb 4, 10:06 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > > > strength.
>
> > > > > Borg 10
> > > > > Connors 10
> > > > > Nadal 10
> > > > > Sampras 9.5
> > > > > Lendl 9
> > > > > Wilander 6
> > > > > Edberg 5
> > > > > McEnroe 5
> > > > > Agassi 4
> > > > > Becker 4
> > > > > Fed 3
>
> > > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > > Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone =
in
> > > > a Slam except a fellow Slam
> > > > champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> > > Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
> > > again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
> > > them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
> > > court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to the
> > > stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.- Hide quoted te=
xt -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > >Fed's lack of mental toughness is only exposed against Rafa, arguably
> > >the most mentally tough player ever.
> > >You have no idea how players like Becker or Lendl or others would've
> > >held up mentally against Nadal.
>
> > Totally disagree, Fed's mental toughness was exposed by Canas (and to s=
ome
> > extend Murray) 2 years ago.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Do you realize how many *talents* who have never achieved a fifth of
> what people were predicting for them -
>
> Rios, Mecir, Ivanisevic, Gasquet, Leconte, Safin just to name a few.
>
> And then there's Fed, who has won more Slams than exactly 1 player in
> the history of the sport, and your
> argument is that he's not mentally tough? Based on what? A couple of
> losses at tune-ups and a couple of Slam losses when he's past peak to
> arguably the most mentally tough player ever. And in one of those
> matches Fed fought back from two sets, 0-40 on his serve, saved match
> points in the fourth set, etc.
>
> He's also been dealing with Pete's Slam record not just this last
> final, but for about six or seven Slams now since he realized it was
> in reach, yet still no losses to any one ranked outside the top 3.
> Imo, no one in the Open Era at least has had to deal with the type of
> pressure Fed is under. Pete would be the closest but even then I don't
> think it was quite the same because the guy whose mark he was chasing
> was never considered goat. Whereas Fed is playing against his
> opponents and also against Pete for the title of best ever at every
> Slam event.

Good post - as always. Fed isnt a mental midget that everyone makes
out to be. He showed that Wimby (coming back from 2 sets down and
almost winning), coming back from the Olympic loss to win the US Open.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 15:02:18
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 5:26=A0pm, "Iceberg" <big_bad_iceb...@moc.oohay > wrote:
> <jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b026c884-24e3-4cf7-a24f-f2a0fc874188@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 4, 10:06 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > > strength.
>
> > > > Borg 10
> > > > Connors 10
> > > > Nadal 10
> > > > Sampras 9.5
> > > > Lendl 9
> > > > Wilander 6
> > > > Edberg 5
> > > > McEnroe 5
> > > > Agassi 4
> > > > Becker 4
> > > > Fed 3
>
> > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
> > > a Slam except a fellow Slam
> > > champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> > Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
> > again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
> > them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
> > court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to the
> > stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.- Hide quoted text=
-
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >Fed's lack of mental toughness is only exposed against Rafa, arguably
> >the most mentally tough player ever.
> >You have no idea how players like Becker or Lendl or others would've
> >held up mentally against Nadal.
>
> Totally disagree, Fed's mental toughness was exposed by Canas (and to som=
e
> extend Murray) 2 years ago.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Do you realize how many *talents* who have never achieved a fifth of
what people were predicting for them -

Rios, Mecir, Ivanisevic, Gasquet, Leconte, Safin just to name a few.

And then there's Fed, who has won more Slams than exactly 1 player in
the history of the sport, and your
argument is that he's not mentally tough? Based on what? A couple of
losses at tune-ups and a couple of Slam losses when he's past peak to
arguably the most mentally tough player ever. And in one of those
matches Fed fought back from two sets, 0-40 on his serve, saved match
points in the fourth set, etc.

He's also been dealing with Pete's Slam record not just this last
final, but for about six or seven Slams now since he realized it was
in reach, yet still no losses to any one ranked outside the top 3.
Imo, no one in the Open Era at least has had to deal with the type of
pressure Fed is under. Pete would be the closest but even then I don't
think it was quite the same because the guy whose mark he was chasing
was never considered goat. Whereas Fed is playing against his
opponents and also against Pete for the title of best ever at every
Slam event.



 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 15:36:43
From: Raja
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 10:56=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 4, 11:17=A0am, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 10:07=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 10:06=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for ment=
al
> > > > > > strength.
>
> > > > > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > > > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > > > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > > > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > > > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > > > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > > > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > > > Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyon=
e in
> > > > > a Slam except a fellow Slam
> > > > > champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> > > > Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
> > > > again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
> > > > them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
> > > > court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to th=
e
> > > > stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.- Hide quoted =
text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Fed's lack of mental toughness is only exposed against Rafa, arguably
> > > the most mentally tough player ever.
> > > You have no idea how players like Becker or Lendl or others would've
> > > held up mentally against Nadal.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Becker would have blown away Nadal on hc and carpet (same with Lendl).
>
> If the court is fast enough, I don't disagree. But look at Fed's
> record against Nadal in the two YEC

Federer is not as good indoors or as on carpet as McEnroe, Becker and
Lendl. Federer is better than Becker on HC and slightly inferior to
both Lendl and McEnroe on fast hc like USO. Federer might be slightly
better on slower HC than McEnroe and Lendl. Its difficult to tell.
Federer has much better equipment than Becker, Lendl, McEnroe etc.


> matches. It's 4 sets to 0.



 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 12:27:13
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions

> Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
> a Slam except a fellow Slam
> champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments

Or a really weak era with mugs, chokers and mental midgets like
birdshit.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 13:54:17
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
In conclusion, then:

Fed's dead, baby, Fed's dead !!!


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 05:58:43
From: Raja
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 6:32=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> strength.
>
> Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........

Sampras should rate the highest. Connors sometimes harmed himself with
his antics. Lendl choked on ocassions. He is more like a 6 or
something. I wouldnt call him that mentally strong. Nadal hasnt faced
too many dramatic situations yet. I say you are underrating McEnroe.



 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 12:34:48
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 3:22=A0pm, Aranci...@selin.com wrote:
> > If the court is fast enough, I don't disagree. But look at Fed's
> > record against Nadal in the two YEC
> > matches. It's 4 sets to 0.
>
> That was almost 2 years ago. Different era now.

More like just over a year ago.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 12:22:54
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions

>
> If the court is fast enough, I don't disagree. But look at Fed's
> record against Nadal in the two YEC
> matches. It's 4 sets to 0.


That was almost 2 years ago. Different era now.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 12:20:16
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
I still cant believe Rafa beat Fed on a HC slam final. Wow......
HC...... That Rafas got some big cojones and mental strenght.... or
Fed is becoming a pussy and feeble minded.... No wonder the dude
cried....


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 08:56:22
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 11:17=A0am, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 4, 10:07=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 10:06=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > > > strength.
>
> > > > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > > Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone =
in
> > > > a Slam except a fellow Slam
> > > > champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> > > Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
> > > again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
> > > them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
> > > court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to the
> > > stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.- Hide quoted te=
xt -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Fed's lack of mental toughness is only exposed against Rafa, arguably
> > the most mentally tough player ever.
> > You have no idea how players like Becker or Lendl or others would've
> > held up mentally against Nadal.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Becker would have blown away Nadal on hc and carpet (same with Lendl).

If the court is fast enough, I don't disagree. But look at Fed's
record against Nadal in the two YEC
matches. It's 4 sets to 0.



 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 08:19:43
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 11:15=A0am, zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 4, 10:07=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 10:06=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > > > strength.
>
> > > > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > > Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone =
in
> > > > a Slam except a fellow Slam
> > > > champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> > > Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
> > > again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
> > > them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
> > > court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to the
> > > stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.- Hide quoted te=
xt -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Fed's lack of mental toughness is only exposed against Rafa, arguably
> > the most mentally tough player ever.
> > You have no idea how players like Becker or Lendl or others would've
> > held up mentally against Nadal.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Lendl manhandled every of his baseliner opponent. Nadal would be no
> more than Wilander to him. Wilander attacked the net and suprised
> Lendl sometimes, so he could have been a much dangerous opponent than
> Nadal.
>
> There is no way to tell. Lendl played with fuckall rackets in an era
> 20 years ago. We dont know how faster and more powerful Lendl would
> have been if he was Nadal's age in 2009.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I don't pretend to know how players from different eras would have
handled different mental challenges.

In my opinion, Nadal is a much more dangerous opponent because his
defense is even better than Mats'. He's got a much bigger forehand,
etc. But you're right it's hard to compare because of equipment
advances.

But it's obvious the point of this thread is just to shit all over
Federer. Typical rst garbage-level post.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 08:17:29
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 10:07=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 4, 10:06=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > > strength.
>
> > > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
> > > a Slam except a fellow Slam
> > > champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> > Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
> > again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
> > them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
> > court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to the
> > stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.- Hide quoted text=
-
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Fed's lack of mental toughness is only exposed against Rafa, arguably
> the most mentally tough player ever.
> You have no idea how players like Becker or Lendl or others would've
> held up mentally against Nadal.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Becker would have blown away Nadal on hc and carpet (same with Lendl).
Bigger and more reliable serve than Federer and much flatter forehand.
Lendl's backhand was also miles better and his slices are also good.

They didnt dance like a ballerina on the court like Fed, but that is
not really needed to win matches.

The only problem Lendl and Becker would have is on clay.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 08:15:48
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 10:07=A0am, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 4, 10:06=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > > strength.
>
> > > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
> > > a Slam except a fellow Slam
> > > champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> > Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
> > again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
> > them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
> > court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to the
> > stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.- Hide quoted text=
-
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Fed's lack of mental toughness is only exposed against Rafa, arguably
> the most mentally tough player ever.
> You have no idea how players like Becker or Lendl or others would've
> held up mentally against Nadal.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Lendl manhandled every of his baseliner opponent. Nadal would be no
more than Wilander to him. Wilander attacked the net and suprised
Lendl sometimes, so he could have been a much dangerous opponent than
Nadal.

There is no way to tell. Lendl played with fuckall rackets in an era
20 years ago. We dont know how faster and more powerful Lendl would
have been if he was Nadal's age in 2009.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 08:13:37
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 8:28=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2:22 pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 8:06 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 1:58 pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 4, 6:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > > > strength.
>
> > > > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > > Sampras should rate the highest. Connors sometimes harmed himself w=
ith
> > > > his antics. Lendl choked on ocassions. He is more like a 6 or
> > > > something. I wouldnt call him that mentally strong. Nadal hasnt fac=
ed
> > > > too many dramatic situations yet. I say you are underrating McEnroe=
.
>
> > > I rate the likes of Connors and Lendl very highly because they had
> > > great results despite little talent.
>
> > You are a true moron of incredibly epic proportions. Connors lacked
> > weapons but his groundstrokes were almost perfect. Deep and side to
> > side. And he was a pretty good volleyer as well. Lendl had incredible
> > groundstrokes and power from the baseline. He did those with those
> > tiny racket heads. Ask Federer to do what he does with Lendl's
> > rackets.
>
> > Go back to tennis 101.
>
> All Lendl had was power but no skill.

Define skill? Is it hitting flowery volleys like McEnroe did?

>I'm paying him a compliment by
> saying he was mentally strong enough to get great results without much
> talent vis a vis the other top players.

No you are not. You are calling will him a talentless hack who got
lucky because of some mental strength BS.


>
> Point is, no one considers Lendl up there with Sampras/Mac/Fed/Becker
> etc in the talent department. Oh except rabid fanboys like you...- Hide q=
uoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 08:12:35
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 8:03=A0am, ghell666 <matt.tip...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 4 Feb, 13:58, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 6:32=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > strength.
>
> > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > Sampras should rate the highest. Connors sometimes harmed himself with
> > his antics. Lendl choked on ocassions. He is more like a 6 or
> > something. I wouldnt call him that mentally strong. Nadal hasnt faced
> > too many dramatic situations yet. I say you are underrating McEnroe.
>
> Sampras was the highest no doubt got the clay record to prove it !!- Hide=
quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

He was mentally very strong. But his game was not good on clay.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 08:07:13
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 10:06=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > strength.
>
> > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
> > a Slam except a fellow Slam
> > champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
> again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
> them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
> court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to the
> stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Fed's lack of mental toughness is only exposed against Rafa, arguably
the most mentally tough player ever.
You have no idea how players like Becker or Lendl or others would've
held up mentally against Nadal.


  
Date: 04 Feb 2009 22:26:39
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
<jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:b026c884-24e3-4cf7-a24f-f2a0fc874188@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 4, 10:06 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > strength.
>
> > > Borg 10
> > > Connors 10
> > > Nadal 10
> > > Sampras 9.5
> > > Lendl 9
> > > Wilander 6
> > > Edberg 5
> > > McEnroe 5
> > > Agassi 4
> > > Becker 4
> > > Fed 3
>
> > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
> > a Slam except a fellow Slam
> > champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.
>
> Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
> again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
> them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
> court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to the
> stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
>
>Fed's lack of mental toughness is only exposed against Rafa, arguably
>the most mentally tough player ever.
>You have no idea how players like Becker or Lendl or others would've
>held up mentally against Nadal.

Totally disagree, Fed's mental toughness was exposed by Canas (and to some
extend Murray) 2 years ago.




 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 07:06:33
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 2:36 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > strength.
>
> > Borg 10
> > Connors 10
> > Nadal 10
> > Sampras 9.5
> > Lendl 9
> > Wilander 6
> > Edberg 5
> > McEnroe 5
> > Agassi 4
> > Becker 4
> > Fed 3
>
> > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
> a Slam except a fellow Slam
> champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.

Look, FEDDY has been proven a mental weakling by Rafa time and time
again. Don't insult other great champs by putting Fed up there with
them in the mental strength dept. Remember Sampras throwing up on
court and winning in the USO '96? Fed would probably have ran to the
stands and hugged that fat cow who acts as his beard.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:36:13
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 7:32=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> strength.
>
> Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........

Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
a Slam except a fellow Slam
champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.


  
Date: 04 Feb 2009 23:55:03
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:36:13 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Feb 4, 7:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
>> strength.
>>
>> Borg                 10
>> Connors            10
>> Nadal                10
>> Sampras            9.5
>> Lendl                 9
>> Wilander            6
>> Edberg               5
>> McEnroe            5
>> Agassi               4
>> Becker               4
>> Fed                    3
>>
>> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
>Sure, it takes no mental strength whatsoever to not lose to anyone in
>a Slam except a fellow Slam
>champ for 21 consecutive major tournaments.

That just means that his talent is totally off the chart. Weakest of
all mentally, but only Sampras has more slams. Imagine if he was a 6
mentally...



 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:28:51
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 2:22 pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 8:06 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 1:58 pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 4, 6:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > > strength.
>
> > > > Borg 10
> > > > Connors 10
> > > > Nadal 10
> > > > Sampras 9.5
> > > > Lendl 9
> > > > Wilander 6
> > > > Edberg 5
> > > > McEnroe 5
> > > > Agassi 4
> > > > Becker 4
> > > > Fed 3
>
> > > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > > Sampras should rate the highest. Connors sometimes harmed himself with
> > > his antics. Lendl choked on ocassions. He is more like a 6 or
> > > something. I wouldnt call him that mentally strong. Nadal hasnt faced
> > > too many dramatic situations yet. I say you are underrating McEnroe.
>
> > I rate the likes of Connors and Lendl very highly because they had
> > great results despite little talent.
>
> You are a true moron of incredibly epic proportions. Connors lacked
> weapons but his groundstrokes were almost perfect. Deep and side to
> side. And he was a pretty good volleyer as well. Lendl had incredible
> groundstrokes and power from the baseline. He did those with those
> tiny racket heads. Ask Federer to do what he does with Lendl's
> rackets.
>
> Go back to tennis 101.
>

All Lendl had was power but no skill. I'm paying him a compliment by
saying he was mentally strong enough to get great results without much
talent vis a vis the other top players.

Point is, no one considers Lendl up there with Sampras/Mac/Fed/Becker
etc in the talent department. Oh except rabid fanboys like you...



 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:22:01
From: Raja
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 8:06=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 1:58 pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 6:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > strength.
>
> > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > Sampras should rate the highest. Connors sometimes harmed himself with
> > his antics. Lendl choked on ocassions. He is more like a 6 or
> > something. I wouldnt call him that mentally strong. Nadal hasnt faced
> > too many dramatic situations yet. I say you are underrating McEnroe.
>
> I rate the likes of Connors and Lendl very highly because they had
> great results despite little talent.

You are a true moron of incredibly epic proportions. Connors lacked
weapons but his groundstrokes were almost perfect. Deep and side to
side. And he was a pretty good volleyer as well. Lendl had incredible
groundstrokes and power from the baseline. He did those with those
tiny racket heads. Ask Federer to do what he does with Lendl's
rackets.

Go back to tennis 101.


>Mac virtually quit the game in
> his mid 20s because of drug use and generally going off the rails - he
> is not a mental giant.
>
> Tbh I think Nadal is top of this list. Fed, who was previously a 7 or
> 8, has shown himself to be a mental midget when faced with real
> competition, hence he has plummeted to 3.



 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:19:29
From:
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 8:14=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 12:55 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > GOAT wrote:
> > > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > > strength.
>
> > > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> > er, Borg ran away at his peak because a better player came along. =A0Bo=
rg
> > was mentally strong v lesser players, but in absolute terms he ran away
> > - that's weak.
>
> In retrospect I agree about Borg - he should have been about an 8 or
> so?


Or a 9....


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:19:20
From: The Truth
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On 4 Feb., 13:32, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> strength.
>
> Borg 10
> Connors 10
> Nadal 10
> Sampras 9.5
> Lendl 9
> Wilander 6
> Edberg 5
> McEnroe 5
> Agassi 4
> Becker 4
> Fed 3
>
> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........

Becker was mentally quite strong.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:06:25
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 1:58 pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 6:32 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > strength.
>
> > Borg 10
> > Connors 10
> > Nadal 10
> > Sampras 9.5
> > Lendl 9
> > Wilander 6
> > Edberg 5
> > McEnroe 5
> > Agassi 4
> > Becker 4
> > Fed 3
>
> > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> Sampras should rate the highest. Connors sometimes harmed himself with
> his antics. Lendl choked on ocassions. He is more like a 6 or
> something. I wouldnt call him that mentally strong. Nadal hasnt faced
> too many dramatic situations yet. I say you are underrating McEnroe.

I rate the likes of Connors and Lendl very highly because they had
great results despite little talent. Mac virtually quit the game in
his mid 20s because of drug use and generally going off the rails - he
is not a mental giant.

Tbh I think Nadal is top of this list. Fed, who was previously a 7 or
8, has shown himself to be a mental midget when faced with real
competition, hence he has plummeted to 3.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 06:03:04
From: ghell666
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On 4 Feb, 13:58, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 6:32=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > strength.
>
> > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> Sampras should rate the highest. Connors sometimes harmed himself with
> his antics. Lendl choked on ocassions. He is more like a 6 or
> something. I wouldnt call him that mentally strong. Nadal hasnt faced
> too many dramatic situations yet. I say you are underrating McEnroe.

Sampras was the highest no doubt got the clay record to prove it !!


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 05:56:55
From: Raja
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 6:55=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> GOAT wrote:
> > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > strength.
>
> > Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> > Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> > Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> > Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> > Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> > Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> > McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> > Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> > Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> er, Borg ran away at his peak because a better player came along. =A0Borg
> was mentally strong v lesser players, but in absolute terms he ran away
> - that's weak.

are you fuckin kidding me. Borg quit on his own terms. He was mentally
very strong during his matches. He never threw away a match.



  
Date: 05 Feb 2009 17:03:54
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
Raja wrote:
> On Feb 4, 6:55 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> GOAT wrote:
>>> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
>>> strength.
>>> Borg 10
>>> Connors 10
>>> Nadal 10
>>> Sampras 9.5
>>> Lendl 9
>>> Wilander 6
>>> Edberg 5
>>> McEnroe 5
>>> Agassi 4
>>> Becker 4
>>> Fed 3
>>> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>> er, Borg ran away at his peak because a better player came along. Borg
>> was mentally strong v lesser players, but in absolute terms he ran away
>> - that's weak.
>
> are you fuckin kidding me. Borg quit on his own terms.


Yes - his terms were lose 3 slam finals in a row & adios.


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 05:42:27
From: ghell666
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On 4 Feb, 12:32, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> strength.
>
> Borg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10
> Connors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> Nadal =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010
> Sampras =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09.5
> Lendl =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
> Wilander =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
> Edberg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5
> McEnroe =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
> Agassi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> Becker =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4
> Fed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
>
> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........

How much did he fall after Fo last year , before that he was surely at
least 6 - 8 considering his slam tally and dominance etc

4 points since last year ?

Nadal has gained at least 2 from his wins at Wimbledon and on Hard ..


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 13:14:32
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:32:42 -0800 (PST), GOAT
<thetruetennisgoat@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:

>Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
>strength.
>
>Borg 10
>Connors 10
>Nadal 10
>Sampras 9.5
>Lendl 9
>Wilander 6
>Edberg 5
>McEnroe 5
>Agassi 4
>Becker 4
>Fed 3
>
>Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........


Feddy's not dead but you're fucked in the head !


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 05:14:10
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
On Feb 4, 12:55 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> GOAT wrote:
> > Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> > strength.
>
> > Borg 10
> > Connors 10
> > Nadal 10
> > Sampras 9.5
> > Lendl 9
> > Wilander 6
> > Edberg 5
> > McEnroe 5
> > Agassi 4
> > Becker 4
> > Fed 3
>
> > Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........
>
> er, Borg ran away at his peak because a better player came along. Borg
> was mentally strong v lesser players, but in absolute terms he ran away
> - that's weak.

In retrospect I agree about Borg - he should have been about an 8 or
so?


 
Date: 04 Feb 2009 23:55:15
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: FEDDY the weakest mentally of all champions
GOAT wrote:
> Here I rate the great champs of recent years out of 10 for mental
> strength.
>
> Borg 10
> Connors 10
> Nadal 10
> Sampras 9.5
> Lendl 9
> Wilander 6
> Edberg 5
> McEnroe 5
> Agassi 4
> Becker 4
> Fed 3
>
> Fed's dead, baby. Fed's dead.........


er, Borg ran away at his peak because a better player came along. Borg
was mentally strong v lesser players, but in absolute terms he ran away
- that's weak.