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Date: 09 Jan 2009 17:59:01
From: grif
Subject: Fed probably wishes Djoker
could have taken the #2 spot before the AO.

There were patches of great shots from Fed, especially some of those dtl
bhs, but in general, he did not look good out there. Murray's game does that
to players. It can make them look helpless.





 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:11:25
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Fed probably wishes Djoker
On Jan 9, 12:59=A0pm, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> could have taken the #2 spot before the AO.
>
> There were patches of great shots from Fed, especially some of those dtl
> bhs, but in general, he did not look good out there. Murray's game does t=
hat
> to players. It can make them look helpless.

He had too many double faults, didn't serve that great, but Murray was
too consistent and strong out there.
Federer made no changes to his game although it was obvious it's not
working.
The question is: does Federer hide a winning game plan for the slams,
will Murray be able to stay too consistent until the SF, will any of
them lose before reaching the SF, too many questions :)


  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:25:54
From:
Subject: Re: Fed probably wishes Djoker
On Jan 9, 1:11=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Jan 9, 12:59=A0pm, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > could have taken the #2 spot before the AO.
>
> > There were patches of great shots from Fed, especially some of those dt=
l
> > bhs, but in general, he did not look good out there. Murray's game does=
that
> > to players. It can make them look helpless.
>
> He had too many double faults, didn't serve that great, but Murray was
> too consistent and strong out there.
> Federer made no changes to his game although it was obvious it's not
> working.
> The question is: does Federer hide a winning game plan for the slams,
> will Murray be able to stay too consistent until the SF, will any of
> them lose before reaching the SF, too many questions :)

Will a tipsarevic/andreev not choke this time when playing the old
man in the early stages of a slam?


   
Date: 10 Jan 2009 10:54:41
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Fed probably wishes Djoker
Arancione@selin.com wrote:
> On Jan 9, 1:11 pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 9, 12:59 pm, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> could have taken the #2 spot before the AO.
>>> There were patches of great shots from Fed, especially some of those dtl
>>> bhs, but in general, he did not look good out there. Murray's game does that
>>> to players. It can make them look helpless.
>> He had too many double faults, didn't serve that great, but Murray was
>> too consistent and strong out there.
>> Federer made no changes to his game although it was obvious it's not
>> working.
>> The question is: does Federer hide a winning game plan for the slams,
>> will Murray be able to stay too consistent until the SF, will any of
>> them lose before reaching the SF, too many questions :)
>
> Will a tipsarevic/andreev not choke this time when playing the old
> man in the early stages of a slam?


Last yr Fed still had the aura from yr before winning 3 slams - this yr
more guys will see him as vulnerable & have a good crack.



  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:21:37
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Fed probably wishes Djoker
On 10 Jan., 00:11, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Jan 9, 12:59=A0pm, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > could have taken the #2 spot before the AO.
>
> > There were patches of great shots from Fed, especially some of those dt=
l
> > bhs, but in general, he did not look good out there. Murray's game does=
that
> > to players. It can make them look helpless.
>
> He had too many double faults, didn't serve that great, but Murray was
> too consistent and strong out there.
> Federer made no changes to his game although it was obvious it's not
> working.
> The question is: does Federer hide a winning game plan for the slams,
> will Murray be able to stay too consistent until the SF, will any of
> them lose before reaching the SF, too many questions :)

I think Federer will serve better in Slams.

Athletically, Federer has definitely lost a step (especially in the
forehand corner), so now he has to rely on clever maneuvering more and
more. He needs to serve well more consistently to get cheap points,
and sharpen the net game as much as he can. His inside out forehand is
still deadly. Once a rally starts, his ground strokes tend to break
down after 6-7 exchanges and it happens more often now than before.

But the real thing is hunger. Federer will keep losing in tuneups if
the hunger isn't there anymore.


  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 18:19:44
From: grif
Subject: Re: Fed probably wishes Djoker

"wkhedr" <wkhedr@my-deja.com > wrote in message
news:e2084920-8275-477b-b010-6284981fea17@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 9, 12:59 pm, "grif" <griffin_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> could have taken the #2 spot before the AO.
>
> There were patches of great shots from Fed, especially some of those dtl
> bhs, but in general, he did not look good out there. Murray's game does
> that
> to players. It can make them look helpless.

"He had too many double faults, didn't serve that great, but Murray was
too consistent and strong out there.
Federer made no changes to his game although it was obvious it's not
working.
The question is: does Federer hide a winning game plan for the slams,
will Murray be able to stay too consistent until the SF, will any of
them lose before reaching the SF, too many questions :)"

I should have said that Murray's game can make players *feel* helpless.
Looking at their recent matches and assuming Murray doesn't choke, you would
have to say that a best of 5 set match should actually favor the Scot.