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Date: 28 Jan 2009 13:13:54
From:
Subject: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3860924&categoryid=2491545

... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.

I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...





 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 18:21:22
From: Hops
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 1:13 pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3860924&categoryid=2491545
>
> ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntglBWwjiEQ&feature=related




 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 18:06:29
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 6:37=A0pm, GuyTen...@ymail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 5:18=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >...But still, it's a weakness
> > in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.
>
> True, but on the women's side, Sharapova seems to be able to get
> around this flaw.

Not against the Sistas she doesn't.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 15:37:28
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 5:18=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:

>...But still, it's a weakness
> in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.


True, but on the women's side, Sharapova seems to be able to get
around this flaw.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 15:36:32
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 3:31=A0pm, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 6:16=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 3:11=A0pm, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 5:32=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 28 Jan, 22:23, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 28, 5:18=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.=
com >
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D=
2491545
>
> > > > > > > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patt=
ing Fed on the
> > > > > > > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit cr=
azy.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I j=
ust about
> > > > > > > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ..=
.
>
> > > > > > > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > > > > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is =
one of the
> > > > > > > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > > > > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > > > > > > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> > > > > > > I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match wit=
h Blake
> > > > > > > this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was grea=
t to
> > > > > > > watch.
>
> > > > > > > Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athle=
ticism
> > > > > > > was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nea=
rly as
> > > > > > good an athlete as Monfils, for example.
>
> > > > > > And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. =
Not
> > > > > > that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a wea=
kness
> > > > > > in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement=
.
>
> > > > > Before the Verdasco-Tsonga match, Brad Gilbert gave Tsonga the ch=
eck
> > > > > mark for movement (as well as a couple others; Verdasco got check=
s for
> > > > > forehand, backhand, and fitness). During the match, someone (I th=
ink
> > > > > it was PMac) asked Gilbert if he really meant it when he lauded
> > > > > Tsonga's movement. Gilbert said yes, and added some of the same "=
moves
> > > > > very well for a big guy" explanation appearing in this thread.
>
> > > > > Joe Ramirez- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > I didn't see the Verdasco game, but could Tsonga have been sufferin=
g
> > > > back problems? In the Blake match his movement was superb until the
> > > > firework break, but afterwards he seemed to stiffen up. His serving
> > > > wasn't quite as good either.
>
> > > Tsonga played well for a while against Verdasco, but on the whole he
> > > did not impress me -- by which I mean he did not appear to be a
> > > potential winner of the tournament. I kept trying to envision how he
> > > might fare against Nadal, and surprisingly (to me) I concluded that
> > > Verdasco probably would have a better chance, provided he's not still
> > > psychologically cowed (admittedly an open question). The Tsonga who
> > > lost to Verdasco didn't seem to have the goods to challenge Nadal --
> > > too much baseline play, too little pure aggression, too much serving
> > > inconsistency, and too little stamina. He did not seem like the Tsong=
a
> > > of the 2008 AO semifinal -- more like the Tsonga who choked against
> > > Nadal at Indian Wells, and maybe not even at that level.
>
> > > To answer your question, it's certainly possible that his back was
> > > acting up. He clearly began losing steam in the third set. The
> > > announcers speculated that his feet were hurting, since he kept
> > > removing his shoes at the changeovers (this may have been simply to
> > > put on clean socks, however). It was noted that Tsonga hasn't had muc=
h
> > > opportunity to do effective training, because whatever physical work
> > > he's been able to put in has been, by necessity, largely devoted to
> > > caring for his back. But regardless of the specific problems, he
> > > looked to me like a player who would surely be worn down by Nadal
> > > unless he could conjure another miracle performance to end the match
> > > in three very quick sets -- not likely. :)
>
> > All true, but who doesn't Nadal wear down?
>
> Based on their performance in this tournament, I would say the
> following players could get through four or five sets with Nadal on
> this surface without falling apart:
> -Federer
> -Roddick
> -Verdasco
> -Murray
>
> They might lose, but it probably would not be because they collapsed
> physically. On the other hand, Tsonga I would lump in with the Djoker
> as players who could not endure a long contest with Nadal. I'm not
> even sure that the current Tsonga could get through *three* sets
> against Nadal.

Well, hopefully he'll get fitter. It's not that I love his game, but
the more players in the mix the better, imo. I am tired of everything
being about Federer and Nadal.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 15:31:54
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 6:16=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 28, 3:11=A0pm, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 5:32=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 28 Jan, 22:23, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 5:18=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.co=
m >
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D24=
91545
>
> > > > > > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud pattin=
g Fed on the
> > > > > > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit craz=
y.
>
> > > > > > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I jus=
t about
> > > > > > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > > > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > > > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is on=
e of the
> > > > > > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > > > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > > > > > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> > > > > > I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with =
Blake
> > > > > > this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great =
to
> > > > > > watch.
>
> > > > > > Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athleti=
cism
> > > > > > was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nearl=
y as
> > > > > good an athlete as Monfils, for example.
>
> > > > > And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. No=
t
> > > > > that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a weakn=
ess
> > > > > in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.
>
> > > > Before the Verdasco-Tsonga match, Brad Gilbert gave Tsonga the chec=
k
> > > > mark for movement (as well as a couple others; Verdasco got checks =
for
> > > > forehand, backhand, and fitness). During the match, someone (I thin=
k
> > > > it was PMac) asked Gilbert if he really meant it when he lauded
> > > > Tsonga's movement. Gilbert said yes, and added some of the same "mo=
ves
> > > > very well for a big guy" explanation appearing in this thread.
>
> > > > Joe Ramirez- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > I didn't see the Verdasco game, but could Tsonga have been suffering
> > > back problems? In the Blake match his movement was superb until the
> > > firework break, but afterwards he seemed to stiffen up. His serving
> > > wasn't quite as good either.
>
> > Tsonga played well for a while against Verdasco, but on the whole he
> > did not impress me -- by which I mean he did not appear to be a
> > potential winner of the tournament. I kept trying to envision how he
> > might fare against Nadal, and surprisingly (to me) I concluded that
> > Verdasco probably would have a better chance, provided he's not still
> > psychologically cowed (admittedly an open question). The Tsonga who
> > lost to Verdasco didn't seem to have the goods to challenge Nadal --
> > too much baseline play, too little pure aggression, too much serving
> > inconsistency, and too little stamina. He did not seem like the Tsonga
> > of the 2008 AO semifinal -- more like the Tsonga who choked against
> > Nadal at Indian Wells, and maybe not even at that level.
>
> > To answer your question, it's certainly possible that his back was
> > acting up. He clearly began losing steam in the third set. The
> > announcers speculated that his feet were hurting, since he kept
> > removing his shoes at the changeovers (this may have been simply to
> > put on clean socks, however). It was noted that Tsonga hasn't had much
> > opportunity to do effective training, because whatever physical work
> > he's been able to put in has been, by necessity, largely devoted to
> > caring for his back. But regardless of the specific problems, he
> > looked to me like a player who would surely be worn down by Nadal
> > unless he could conjure another miracle performance to end the match
> > in three very quick sets -- not likely. :)
>
> All true, but who doesn't Nadal wear down?

Based on their performance in this tournament, I would say the
following players could get through four or five sets with Nadal on
this surface without falling apart:
-Federer
-Roddick
-Verdasco
-Murray

They might lose, but it probably would not be because they collapsed
physically. On the other hand, Tsonga I would lump in with the Djoker
as players who could not endure a long contest with Nadal. I'm not
even sure that the current Tsonga could get through *three* sets
against Nadal.

Joe Ramirez


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 15:21:17
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
> Tsonga played well for a while against Verdasco, but on the whole he
> did not impress me -- by which I mean he did not appear to be a
> potential winner of the tournament. I kept trying to envision how he
> might fare against Nadal, and surprisingly (to me) I concluded that
> Verdasco probably would have a better chance, provided he's not still
> psychologically cowed (admittedly an open question). The Tsonga who
> lost to Verdasco didn't seem to have the goods to challenge Nadal --
> too much baseline play, too little pure aggression, too much serving
> inconsistency, and too little stamina. He did not seem like the Tsonga
> of the 2008 AO semifinal -- more like the Tsonga who choked against
> Nadal at Indian Wells, and maybe not even at that level.
>
> To answer your question, it's certainly possible that his back was
> acting up. He clearly began losing steam in the third set. The
> announcers speculated that his feet were hurting, since he kept
> removing his shoes at the changeovers (this may have been simply to
> put on clean socks, however). It was noted that Tsonga hasn't had much
> opportunity to do effective training, because whatever physical work
> he's been able to put in has been, by necessity, largely devoted to
> caring for his back. But regardless of the specific problems, he
> looked to me like a player who would surely be worn down by Nadal
> unless he could conjure another miracle performance to end the match
> in three very quick sets -- not likely. :)
>
> Joe Ramirez

Yes - I don't think Tsonga would have beaten Nadal in the SF two years
running anyway, and he's not playing as well as last year. There was
talk of him pulling out before the tournament with his back and
despite his protestations I don't think he has been 100% fit.

I expected Murray to take Tsonga out and give Nadal the tough SF
match, but of course that didn't happen.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 15:16:39
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 3:11=A0pm, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 5:32=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 28 Jan, 22:23, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 5:18=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491=
545
>
> > > > > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting =
Fed on the
> > > > > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just =
about
> > > > > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one =
of the
> > > > > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > > > > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> > > > > I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with Bl=
ake
> > > > > this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great to
> > > > > watch.
>
> > > > > Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athletici=
sm
> > > > > was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nearly =
as
> > > > good an athlete as Monfils, for example.
>
> > > > And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. Not
> > > > that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a weaknes=
s
> > > > in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.
>
> > > Before the Verdasco-Tsonga match, Brad Gilbert gave Tsonga the check
> > > mark for movement (as well as a couple others; Verdasco got checks fo=
r
> > > forehand, backhand, and fitness). During the match, someone (I think
> > > it was PMac) asked Gilbert if he really meant it when he lauded
> > > Tsonga's movement. Gilbert said yes, and added some of the same "move=
s
> > > very well for a big guy" explanation appearing in this thread.
>
> > > Joe Ramirez- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I didn't see the Verdasco game, but could Tsonga have been suffering
> > back problems? In the Blake match his movement was superb until the
> > firework break, but afterwards he seemed to stiffen up. His serving
> > wasn't quite as good either.
>
> Tsonga played well for a while against Verdasco, but on the whole he
> did not impress me -- by which I mean he did not appear to be a
> potential winner of the tournament. I kept trying to envision how he
> might fare against Nadal, and surprisingly (to me) I concluded that
> Verdasco probably would have a better chance, provided he's not still
> psychologically cowed (admittedly an open question). The Tsonga who
> lost to Verdasco didn't seem to have the goods to challenge Nadal --
> too much baseline play, too little pure aggression, too much serving
> inconsistency, and too little stamina. He did not seem like the Tsonga
> of the 2008 AO semifinal -- more like the Tsonga who choked against
> Nadal at Indian Wells, and maybe not even at that level.
>
> To answer your question, it's certainly possible that his back was
> acting up. He clearly began losing steam in the third set. The
> announcers speculated that his feet were hurting, since he kept
> removing his shoes at the changeovers (this may have been simply to
> put on clean socks, however). It was noted that Tsonga hasn't had much
> opportunity to do effective training, because whatever physical work
> he's been able to put in has been, by necessity, largely devoted to
> caring for his back. But regardless of the specific problems, he
> looked to me like a player who would surely be worn down by Nadal
> unless he could conjure another miracle performance to end the match
> in three very quick sets -- not likely. :)
>

All true, but who doesn't Nadal wear down?


  
Date: 29 Jan 2009 12:18:16
From: Edward McArdle
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
In article
<f9e64e58-6b22-4c99-bfd6-2466b1ad93b4@a12g2000pro.googlegroups.com >, Sao
Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swallow@yahoo.com > wrote:

>> To answer your question, it's certainly possible that his back was
>> acting up. He clearly began losing steam in the third set. The
>> announcers speculated that his feet were hurting, since he kept
>> removing his shoes at the changeovers (this may have been simply to
>> put on clean socks, however). It was noted that Tsonga hasn't had much
>> opportunity to do effective training, because whatever physical work
>> he's been able to put in has been, by necessity, largely devoted to
>> caring for his back. But regardless of the specific problems, he
>> looked to me like a player who would surely be worn down by Nadal
>> unless he could conjure another miracle performance to end the match
>> in three very quick sets -- not likely. :)
>>
>
>All true, but who doesn't Nadal wear down?

Is that what he's wearing now? No wonder he's hot!

--
Edward McArdle


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 15:13:46
From: ghell666
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On 28 Jan, 21:13, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3860924&categoryid=2491545
>
> ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...

I thought it was supposed to be warm in Australia , is that god damm
turquoise fleece hes wearing ?



 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 15:11:04
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 5:32=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 28 Jan, 22:23, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 5:18=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D249154=
5
>
> > > > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fe=
d on the
> > > > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just ab=
out
> > > > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of=
the
> > > > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > > > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> > > > I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with Blak=
e
> > > > this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great to
> > > > watch.
>
> > > > Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athleticism
> > > > was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nearly as
> > > good an athlete as Monfils, for example.
>
> > > And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. Not
> > > that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a weakness
> > > in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.
>
> > Before the Verdasco-Tsonga match, Brad Gilbert gave Tsonga the check
> > mark for movement (as well as a couple others; Verdasco got checks for
> > forehand, backhand, and fitness). During the match, someone (I think
> > it was PMac) asked Gilbert if he really meant it when he lauded
> > Tsonga's movement. Gilbert said yes, and added some of the same "moves
> > very well for a big guy" explanation appearing in this thread.
>
> > Joe Ramirez- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I didn't see the Verdasco game, but could Tsonga have been suffering
> back problems? In the Blake match his movement was superb until the
> firework break, but afterwards he seemed to stiffen up. His serving
> wasn't quite as good either.

Tsonga played well for a while against Verdasco, but on the whole he
did not impress me -- by which I mean he did not appear to be a
potential winner of the tournament. I kept trying to envision how he
might fare against Nadal, and surprisingly (to me) I concluded that
Verdasco probably would have a better chance, provided he's not still
psychologically cowed (admittedly an open question). The Tsonga who
lost to Verdasco didn't seem to have the goods to challenge Nadal --
too much baseline play, too little pure aggression, too much serving
inconsistency, and too little stamina. He did not seem like the Tsonga
of the 2008 AO semifinal -- more like the Tsonga who choked against
Nadal at Indian Wells, and maybe not even at that level.

To answer your question, it's certainly possible that his back was
acting up. He clearly began losing steam in the third set. The
announcers speculated that his feet were hurting, since he kept
removing his shoes at the changeovers (this may have been simply to
put on clean socks, however). It was noted that Tsonga hasn't had much
opportunity to do effective training, because whatever physical work
he's been able to put in has been, by necessity, largely devoted to
caring for his back. But regardless of the specific problems, he
looked to me like a player who would surely be worn down by Nadal
unless he could conjure another miracle performance to end the match
in three very quick sets -- not likely. :)

Joe Ramirez


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:32:41
From: topspin
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On 28 Jan, 22:23, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 5:18=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed =
on the
> > > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just abou=
t
> > > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of t=
he
> > > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> > > I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with Blake
> > > this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great to
> > > watch.
>
> > > Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athleticism
> > > was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nearly as
> > good an athlete as Monfils, for example.
>
> > And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. Not
> > that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a weakness
> > in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.
>
> Before the Verdasco-Tsonga match, Brad Gilbert gave Tsonga the check
> mark for movement (as well as a couple others; Verdasco got checks for
> forehand, backhand, and fitness). During the match, someone (I think
> it was PMac) asked Gilbert if he really meant it when he lauded
> Tsonga's movement. Gilbert said yes, and added some of the same "moves
> very well for a big guy" explanation appearing in this thread.
>
> Joe Ramirez- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I didn't see the Verdasco game, but could Tsonga have been suffering
back problems? In the Blake match his movement was superb until the
firework break, but afterwards he seemed to stiffen up. His serving
wasn't quite as good either.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:30:32
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 5:26=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 28 Jan, 22:18, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed =
on the
> > > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just abou=
t
> > > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of t=
he
> > > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> > > I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with Blake
> > > this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great to
> > > watch.
>
> > > Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athleticism
> > > was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nearly as
> > good an athlete as Monfils, for example.
>
> > And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. Not
> > that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a weakness
> > in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.- Hide =
quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Personally I find Monfils a bit wild, all flailing arms and legs.

But unbelievable wheels. I bet if you had an ATP 100 meters he'd look
like Usain Bolt.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:28:37
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 5:23=A0pm, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 5:18=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed =
on the
> > > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just abou=
t
> > > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of t=
he
> > > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> > > I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with Blake
> > > this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great to
> > > watch.
>
> > > Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athleticism
> > > was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nearly as
> > good an athlete as Monfils, for example.
>
> > And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. Not
> > that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a weakness
> > in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.
>
> Before the Verdasco-Tsonga match, Brad Gilbert gave Tsonga the check
> mark for movement (as well as a couple others; Verdasco got checks for
> forehand, backhand, and fitness). During the match, someone (I think
> it was PMac) asked Gilbert if he really meant it when he lauded
> Tsonga's movement. Gilbert said yes, and added some of the same "moves
> very well for a big guy" explanation appearing in this thread.
>
> Joe Ramirez- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah, if Fed had said "moves well for a big guy," there no question
about that. But I guess my point is
that Tsonga considers himself a top 5 player, yet for me his problem
is that he's the worst mover out of the top
5 and I don't think he can overcome that even though he probably has
the best serve of all of them.

This era is putting a premium on movement like never before and I
don't think 6'1, 200 is the size you want if your goal is to be No. 1
in this era.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:26:44
From: topspin
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On 28 Jan, 22:18, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on=
the
> > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> > I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with Blake
> > this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great to
> > watch.
>
> > Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athleticism
> > was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nearly as
> good an athlete as Monfils, for example.
>
> And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. Not
> that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a weakness
> in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.- Hide qu=
oted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Personally I find Monfils a bit wild, all flailing arms and legs. All
I will say is that in the Blake match I was surprised and impressed
with both their movement,


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:23:54
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 5:18=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on=
the
> > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> > I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with Blake
> > this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great to
> > watch.
>
> > Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athleticism
> > was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nearly as
> good an athlete as Monfils, for example.
>
> And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. Not
> that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a weakness
> in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.

Before the Verdasco-Tsonga match, Brad Gilbert gave Tsonga the check
mark for movement (as well as a couple others; Verdasco got checks for
forehand, backhand, and fitness). During the match, someone (I think
it was PMac) asked Gilbert if he really meant it when he lauded
Tsonga's movement. Gilbert said yes, and added some of the same "moves
very well for a big guy" explanation appearing in this thread.

Joe Ramirez


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:18:17
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 5:15=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on t=
he
> > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > He called him athletic, IIRC.
>
> I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with Blake
> this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great to
> watch.
>
> Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athleticism
> was there in spades.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

For me Tsonga's got a huge serve and forehand, but he's not nearly as
good an athlete as Monfils, for example.

And nowhere near as quick as Simon or many other guys on Tour. Not
that he should be at his size, of course. But still, it's a weakness
in an era where there is such a premium on outstanding movement.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:15:47
From: topspin
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On 28 Jan, 21:43, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > better movers? If so, that's a
> > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> He called him athletic, IIRC.

I would agree with Federer on the basis of Tsonga's match with Blake
this week. Both moved fantastically athletically, it was great to
watch.

Shot selection and tactics weren't the most subtle, but athleticism
was there in spades.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:11:19
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 2:03 pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 28, 2:02 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 1:39 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 4:13 pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3860924&categoryid=2491545
>
> > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
> > > players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.
>
> > He also said "how he moves around the court very quickly"
>
> > For me, when I was watching Tsonga's match against Blake that's the
> > thing that I thought will most
> > hold that guy back, He's got the huge serve, pretty tough groundies
> > off both sides, good volleyer, but without being
> > a fluid, great mover I just can't see him doing all that much more
> > than he's already done.
>
> Hmmm. He's a huge guy. I thought he moved pretty damn well. A lot
> better than other guys his size.

Very Safin-like in that he's a big guy who is nevertheless agile and
athletic enough to move around and scramble like a smaller player. His
movement, in his prime, was a huge part of what made Safin so
formidable.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:10:32
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 5:07=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Jan 28, 1:39 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> On Jan 28, 4:13 pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>>http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
> >>>> ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on th=
e
> >>>> shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
> >>>> I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> >>>> scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
> >>> Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
> >>> Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> >>> better movers? If so, that's a
> >>> bit of a surprising comment.
> >> He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
> >> players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.
>
> > He also said "how he moves around the court very quickly"
>
> > For me, when I was watching Tsonga's match against Blake that's the
> > thing that I thought will most
> > hold that guy back, He's got the huge serve, pretty tough groundies
> > off both sides, good volleyer, but without being
> > a fluid, great mover I just can't see him doing all that much more
> > than he's already done.
>
> Actually Tsonga's movement is exactly that...fluid. He dances like a
> butterfly and...
>
> --
> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"- Hid=
e quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

He wishes. Actually I do like his game a lot, but he's no Fed or Rafa
in the atleticism department.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:09:03
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 5:03=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 28, 2:02=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 4:43=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on=
the
> > > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > > He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
> > > players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.
>
> > He also said "how he moves around the court very quickly"
>
> > For me, when I was watching Tsonga's match against Blake that's the
> > thing that I thought will most
> > hold that guy back, He's got the huge serve, pretty tough groundies
> > off both sides, good volleyer, but without being
> > a fluid, great mover I just can't see him doing all that much more
> > than he's already done.
>
> Hmmm. He's a huge guy. I thought he moved pretty damn well. A lot
> better than other guys his size.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sure, but he only moves well *relative* to his size. That's not good
enough. Maybe he should try slimming
down a bit more like Roddick has done?


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:06:47
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On 28 jan, 22:49, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 4:43=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on t=
he
> > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
> > players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.
>
> They will notice that unprecedented levels of bitchy lefthanded
> complimenting and backstabbing were going on. For example, "athletic"
> obviously means you lack genuine tennis skills. :)
>
> Joe Ramirez

Yeah, that and he probably meant he's not too bright either ...


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:04:24
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On 28 jan, 22:29, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 28, 1:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> In the beginning, Federer looked like he was biting his tongue to keep
> from laughing. Bud must be a strange little man to see in person.

LOL If he's any stranger than on tv we have to think more highly of
these tennis players keeping a straight face at all...


  
Date: 29 Jan 2009 00:10:01
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
kaennorsing wrote:
> On 28 jan, 22:29, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> On Jan 28, 1:13 pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3860924&categoryid=2491545
>>> ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
>>> shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>>> I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
>>> scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>> In the beginning, Federer looked like he was biting his tongue to keep
>> from laughing. Bud must be a strange little man to see in person.
>
> LOL If he's any stranger than on tv we have to think more highly of
> these tennis players keeping a straight face at all...

Resembles Yoda a bit...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:03:56
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 2:02=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 4:43=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on t=
he
> > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
> > players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.
>
> He also said "how he moves around the court very quickly"
>
> For me, when I was watching Tsonga's match against Blake that's the
> thing that I thought will most
> hold that guy back, He's got the huge serve, pretty tough groundies
> off both sides, good volleyer, but without being
> a fluid, great mover I just can't see him doing all that much more
> than he's already done.

Hmmm. He's a huge guy. I thought he moved pretty damn well. A lot
better than other guys his size.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:02:57
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 4:43=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > better movers? If so, that's a
> > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
> players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.

He also said "how he moves around the court very quickly"

For me, when I was watching Tsonga's match against Blake that's the
thing that I thought will most
hold that guy back, He's got the huge serve, pretty tough groundies
off both sides, good volleyer, but without being
a fluid, great mover I just can't see him doing all that much more
than he's already done.


  
Date: 29 Jan 2009 00:07:00
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> On Jan 28, 1:39 pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 4:13 pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3860924&categoryid=2491545
>>>> ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
>>>> shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>>>> I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
>>>> scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>>> Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>>> Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
>>> better movers? If so, that's a
>>> bit of a surprising comment.
>> He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
>> players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.
>
> He also said "how he moves around the court very quickly"
>
> For me, when I was watching Tsonga's match against Blake that's the
> thing that I thought will most
> hold that guy back, He's got the huge serve, pretty tough groundies
> off both sides, good volleyer, but without being
> a fluid, great mover I just can't see him doing all that much more
> than he's already done.

Actually Tsonga's movement is exactly that...fluid. He dances like a
butterfly and...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:01:39
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 1:49=A0pm, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 4:43=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on t=
he
> > > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > > better movers? If so, that's a
> > > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> > He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
> > players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.
>
> They will notice that unprecedented levels of bitchy lefthanded
> complimenting and backstabbing were going on. For example, "athletic"
> obviously means you lack genuine tennis skills. :)
>

Uncanny. See TT below.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 13:55:45
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On 28 jan, 22:13, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3860924&categoryid=2491545
>
> ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...

Bud Collins: "Beardick is playing like a madman..." :D


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 22:59:06
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...

"kaennorsing" <ljubitsis@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:e8cae979-3dd2-4997-a1f5-8c1f07a3e0e7@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On 28 jan, 22:13, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3860924&categoryid=2491545
>>
>> ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
>> shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>>
>> I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
>> scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> Bud Collins: "Beardick is playing like a madman..." :D


Spot on analysis.




 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 13:49:22
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 4:43=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> > > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> > Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> > Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> > better movers? If so, that's a
> > bit of a surprising comment.
>
> He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
> players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.

They will notice that unprecedented levels of bitchy lefthanded
complimenting and backstabbing were going on. For example, "athletic"
obviously means you lack genuine tennis skills. :)

Joe Ramirez


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 13:43:05
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 1:39=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>
> Nice interview. Thanks for posting.
>
> Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
> better movers? If so, that's a
> bit of a surprising comment.

He called him athletic, IIRC. He gave lots of props to younger
players. Wonder if Fed haters will notice.


  
Date: 29 Jan 2009 00:00:19
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
>
> He called him athletic, IIRC.

Remarkable. What a true gentleman.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 13:39:05
From:
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 4:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...

Nice interview. Thanks for posting.

Did I hear him correctly though that he thinks Tsonga is one of the
better movers? If so, that's a
bit of a surprising comment.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 13:29:24
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
On Jan 28, 1:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
>
> ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
>
> I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...

In the beginning, Federer looked like he was biting his tongue to keep
from laughing. Bud must be a strange little man to see in person.


  
Date: 29 Jan 2009 12:12:19
From: Richard Eich
Subject: Re: Federer interview with Bud Collins ...
Sao_Paulo_Swallow@yahoo.com wrote...
> On Jan 28, 1:13=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3D3860924&categoryid=3D2491545
> >
> > ... seem to have patched up their differences (Bud patting Fed on the
> > shoulder), though some of Bud's questions were a bit crazy.
> >
> > I was hoping for Federer to ask "So Bud, you reckon I just about
> > scrape into your top ten players of all time, yeah?" ...
>=20
> In the beginning, Federer looked like he was biting his tongue to keep
> from laughing. Bud must be a strange little man to see in person.

He is. A few years ago, I looked up from a social doubles match I=20
was playing with (former NYC mayor) David Dinkins to see Bud Collins=20
in the observation area watching the match.

He was chatty afterwards with His Honor. I couldn't get over how he=20
dressed whacky even when he wasn't on TV.

--=20
A fight starts when a man reaches the limits of his intelligence.