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Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:36:12
From: wkhedr
Subject: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
Q. Could we have your thoughts on the match.

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I thought it was a good match. But, no, I mean, I
think I had, I guess, many chances. You know, I mean, I was up a break
in the first twice. Yeah, I mean, I had many chances. I missed them,
you know, and they cost me dearly.

It was a tough match. I don't think I served particularly well,
unfortunately. And I think that was the key to the match in the end.


Q. When you're not serving well, what kind of things are going through
your mind to try to get back?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, just hang in there. I mean, I won a set against
Rafa serving, what, 30% first serves. You know, I mean, it's makable.
I got a great second serve. Very reliable normally. I hit some stupid
double-faults, but that's going to happen in a five-set match
usually.

But, no, I mean, I tried to kind of get the grip on my serve, but
never really found the rhythm, which was a pity. You know, but it
happens.


Q. Can you take us through your emotions.

ROGER FEDERER: I mean, I fought hard, you know. I mean, I think I
played well. I'm happy with where my game's at. I wish my serve would
have been better, but that's something that sometimes is a bit, you
know, day-form issue, you know.

I have a completely different type of serve than Rafa. You know, he
makes sure he gets it in; I try to go and chase the lines. So
obviously you're always going to miss a few.

But, look, I mean, I love this game. It means the world to me, so it
hurts when you lose.


Q. A lot of us felt at the end of the fourth set that the momentum
probably had swung back in your direction. How tough is Nadal in a
fifth set?

ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better player
always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.

You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the first
place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
him.

I mean, no doubt he's one of the tougher guys out there for a fifth
set - no doubt.


Q. Is there a feeling inside you that this is one that got away from
you?

ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, well, I mean, kind of, you know. I mean, this is,
sure, one of the matches in my career where I feel like I could have
or should have won, you know.

But you can't go through your whole life as a tennis player taking
every victory, you know, that's out there. You've got to live with
those, you know. But they hurt even more so like if you're that close,
you know, like at Wimbledon or like here at the Australian Open.

So that's what's tough about it. But I have no regrets, you know. So
it's all right.


Q. Did you think him playing 5 hours, 14 minutes late on Friday night,
did you feel like his condition might go if you could stretch the
match out long enough?

ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I knew it was not going to affect him a
whole lot, so didn't have any role to play in it. I was ready for
that.


Q. Did you feel he was getting stronger at the end?

ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I think I played a bad fifth set. But, no,
I mean, he was playing solid. I think he tried to also kind of keep
the points short, you know, through the fourth and fifth set, you
know.

So, yeah.


Q. Did it hurt more because it could have been the 14th for you and
you have to wait for another time?

ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I mean, honestly, no. I mean, it's more
like, you know, in the first moment you're disappointed, you're
shocked, you're sad, you know, then all of a sudden it overwhelms you.
The problem is you can't go in the locker room and just take it easy
and take a cold shower. You can't. You know, you're stuck out there.
It's the worst feeling, you know.

So, I don't know, it's rough.


Q. You mentioned you had problems with the first serve. You had only
52% of first serves in. You also had 19 breakpoints. That was
happening on Nadal's serve. So what was the problem then? Only him
serving well or you having some problems returning or what?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I wish I was a lefty, too, playing him
breakpoints on the ad side, not on the deuce side. Sure, a great
advantage for him. It's not the first time (smiling).


Q. Do you believe you still can beat him?

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, for sure. I didn't spend four and a half hours
out there believing it [sic].




 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 20:20:32
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 7:27=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> It's hard for anyone to argue now that Fed is better than Rafa in
> terms of the head 2 head match-up, but I
> still think for this particular match the reason why Fed lost is
> because he was sub-par.
>
> The reason I say this is that his first-serve % was as bad as I can
> ever recall it, at least in a big match. Yet, despite serving poorly,
> he was in every set and had multiple chances to break late in the
> third. And despite being about 10% percentage points lower than usual
> with his first serve % he still had more break-points for the match
> than Rafa did and won more overall points.
>
> Also, Rahim, note that before the match Lax said the key for Fed is
> first serve % and saving break points. You said even if he serves
> great and saves lots of break points you doubt that *will save him*
> and predicted a straight set victory for Nadal, maybe 4 sets.
>
> Instead, Fed was way off his normal serving yet still takes it 5
> before his play plummeted in the 5th set.

But here is the point I am trying to make: If Fed had played better,
Nadal probably would have upped his level as well - you cannot change
one thing and think that all else will remain constant. We have now
seen Fed lose to Nadal in all kinds of different situations (forehand
working, forehand not working, backhand clicking, backhand breaking,
serve on fire, serve not working etc) and he has invariably ended up
losing. I don't see the situation any different from Fed-Roddick. So I
now believe that Nadal is just the better tennis player, in the same
way that I consider Fed a better tennis player than Roddick (by a far
bigger margin of course)...


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 17:27:27
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 9:59=A0am, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 8:44=A0am, Lax <Lax.Cla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > He did gift it.
>
> > To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. =A0He didn't
> > play near his best.
>
> > Had Nadal played his best I think he would have beaten Fed playing his
> > best (on this surface based on forms of late).
>
> > Having said that, Fed only had to play a decent match to take this
> > one, but he played like his nutsack was inverted and stuck inside his
> > body.
>
> Nadal now beats Federer because he is just better than Federer now.
> None of this "Fed is in Nadal's head" type nonsense. Sure, Fed has his
> chances here and there, but the outcome is very predictable. Its just
> like Fed playing Roddick. Roddick also has his odd chances here and
> there, but ultimately Fed prevails there because he is better than
> Roddick. Sometimes we think if only he had done this or that he might
> have won. But ultimately, thats not why he loses. Same with Fed and
> Nadal, though the difference is less of course, but its still enough
> to make Nadal the winner every time...

It's hard for anyone to argue now that Fed is better than Rafa in
terms of the head 2 head match-up, but I
still think for this particular match the reason why Fed lost is
because he was sub-par.

The reason I say this is that his first-serve % was as bad as I can
ever recall it, at least in a big match. Yet, despite serving poorly,
he was in every set and had multiple chances to break late in the
third. And despite being about 10% percentage points lower than usual
with his first serve % he still had more break-points for the match
than Rafa did and won more overall points.

Also, Rahim, note that before the match Lax said the key for Fed is
first serve % and saving break points. You said even if he serves
great and saves lots of break points you doubt that *will save him*
and predicted a straight set victory for Nadal, maybe 4 sets.

Instead, Fed was way off his normal serving yet still takes it 5
before his play plummeted in the 5th set.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 14:17:54
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 2:41=A0pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr > wrote:
> "Lax" <Lax.Cla...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:af5a40ea-fe2b-4086-82aa-1222ce26b232@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
>
> > He did gift it.
>
> > To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. =A0He didn't
> > play near his best.
>
> > Had Nadal played his best I think he would have beaten Fed playing his
> > best (on this surface based on forms of late).
>
> > Having said that, Fed only had to play a decent match to take this
> > one, but he played like his nutsack was inverted and stuck inside his
> > body.
>
> I still think game-wise, Federer would have won this match if he had been=
at
> his "best". Even if Nadal is at his "best".
> The problem for him is, that he's almost always not at his best when play=
ing
> Nadal. And that's no coincedence. Rafa has something do to with it.
>
> Regarding this match, Fed served badly, Rafa was tired. But it made them
> even and the drama was there, great points as well, and again Nadal's min=
d,
> saving numerous break-points saved the day.

agree. good post.



 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 13:43:53
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 9:29=A0pm, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 4:16=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:51:21 +0100, Petter Solbu
>
> > <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >Lax wrote:
> > >> He did gift it.
>
> > >> To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. =A0He didn'=
t
> > >> play near his best.
>
> > >Well, I think Nadal played a great match. Especially his backhand was
> > >solid and more aggressive than I have ever seen it before. His footwor=
k
> > >was amazing almost the whole match so I cannot understand the claim th=
at
> > >he was worn out from the start.
>
> > Yes, I think nadal played a very good match. He maybe started to look
> > a little tired at some point, but not so much that it made much
> > difference. And I think fed played well too, except the serve. Normal
> > serving day, and this might have been different.
>
> It wasn't just the serve that let him down. Nadal made some passing
> shots that he shouldn't have made, because Fed's approach shots were
> lacking in integrity. I've said this before, his net game will be his
> downfall. Nadal is a better volleyer.

You're right - it was the approach shots which were the problem.
Federer tends to hit his approach shots too centrally, certainly today
he didn't get them anywhere near wide enough and left Nadal with good
looks at passing shots.

I don't think Nadal is a better volleyer - but he is smart enough to
get up to the net almost only when his opponent is stranded and he has
relatively easy volleys to put away.


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 01:31:10
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:29 pm, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Feb 1, 4:16 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:51:21 +0100, Petter Solbu
>>
>>> <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Lax wrote:
>>>>> He did gift it.
>>
>>>>> To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. He didn't
>>>>> play near his best.
>>
>>>> Well, I think Nadal played a great match. Especially his backhand
>>>> was solid and more aggressive than I have ever seen it before. His
>>>> footwork was amazing almost the whole match so I cannot understand
>>>> the claim that he was worn out from the start.
>>
>>> Yes, I think nadal played a very good match. He maybe started to
>>> look a little tired at some point, but not so much that it made much
>>> difference. And I think fed played well too, except the serve.
>>> Normal serving day, and this might have been different.
>>
>> It wasn't just the serve that let him down. Nadal made some passing
>> shots that he shouldn't have made, because Fed's approach shots were
>> lacking in integrity. I've said this before, his net game will be his
>> downfall. Nadal is a better volleyer.
>
> You're right - it was the approach shots which were the problem.
> Federer tends to hit his approach shots too centrally, certainly today
> he didn't get them anywhere near wide enough and left Nadal with good
> looks at passing shots.
>
> I don't think Nadal is a better volleyer - but he is smart enough to
> get up to the net almost only when his opponent is stranded and he has
> relatively easy volleys to put away.

And that alone makes him if not a better then surely *more succesful
volleyer* than Federer.
His net instincts are good.




  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 01:32:35
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:29 pm, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:>
> I don't think Nadal is a better volleyer - but he is smart enough to


this is the key world as well. Nadal is really winning everything and
beating Federer because he plays smarter.

It translates to "better" afterwards.




 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 13:29:19
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 4:16=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:51:21 +0100, Petter Solbu
>
> <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Lax wrote:
> >> He did gift it.
>
> >> To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. =A0He didn't
> >> play near his best.
>
> >Well, I think Nadal played a great match. Especially his backhand was
> >solid and more aggressive than I have ever seen it before. His footwork
> >was amazing almost the whole match so I cannot understand the claim that
> >he was worn out from the start.
>
> Yes, I think nadal played a very good match. He maybe started to look
> a little tired at some point, but not so much that it made much
> difference. And I think fed played well too, except the serve. Normal
> serving day, and this might have been different.

It wasn't just the serve that let him down. Nadal made some passing
shots that he shouldn't have made, because Fed's approach shots were
lacking in integrity. I've said this before, his net game will be his
downfall. Nadal is a better volleyer.




 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 09:32:08
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 4:20=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:57=A0pm, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 2:36=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > Q. Could we have your thoughts on the match.
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I thought it was a good match. But, no, I mean, =
I
> > > think I had, I guess, many chances. You know, I mean, I was up a brea=
k
> > > in the first twice. Yeah, I mean, I had many chances. I missed them,
> > > you know, and they cost me dearly.
>
> > > It was a tough match. I don't think I served particularly well,
> > > unfortunately. And I think that was the key to the match in the end.
>
> > > Q. When you're not serving well, what kind of things are going throug=
h
> > > your mind to try to get back?
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: Well, just hang in there. I mean, I won a set against
> > > Rafa serving, what, 30% first serves. You know, I mean, it's makable.
> > > I got a great second serve. Very reliable normally. I hit some stupid
> > > double-faults, but that's going to happen in a five-set match
> > > usually.
>
> > > But, no, I mean, I tried to kind of get the grip on my serve, but
> > > never really found the rhythm, which was a pity. You know, but it
> > > happens.
>
> > > Q. Can you take us through your emotions.
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: I mean, I fought hard, you know. I mean, I think I
> > > played well. I'm happy with where my game's at. I wish my serve would
> > > have been better, but that's something that sometimes is a bit, you
> > > know, day-form issue, you know.
>
> > > I have a completely different type of serve than Rafa. You know, he
> > > makes sure he gets it in; I try to go and chase the lines. So
> > > obviously you're always going to miss a few.
>
> > > But, look, I mean, I love this game. It means the world to me, so it
> > > hurts when you lose.
>
> > > Q. A lot of us felt at the end of the fourth set that the momentum
> > > probably had swung back in your direction. How tough is Nadal in a
> > > fifth set?
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
> > > anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better playe=
r
> > > always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.
>
> > > You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the firs=
t
> > > place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
> > > played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
> > > him.
>
> > > I mean, no doubt he's one of the tougher guys out there for a fifth
> > > set - no doubt.
>
> > > Q. Is there a feeling inside you that this is one that got away from
> > > you?
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, well, I mean, kind of, you know. I mean, this is,
> > > sure, one of the matches in my career where I feel like I could have
> > > or should have won, you know.
>
> > > But you can't go through your whole life as a tennis player taking
> > > every victory, you know, that's out there. You've got to live with
> > > those, you know. But they hurt even more so like if you're that close=
,
> > > you know, like at Wimbledon or like here at the Australian Open.
>
> > > So that's what's tough about it. But I have no regrets, you know. So
> > > it's all right.
>
> > > Q. Did you think him playing 5 hours, 14 minutes late on Friday night=
,
> > > did you feel like his condition might go if you could stretch the
> > > match out long enough?
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I knew it was not going to affect him a
> > > whole lot, so didn't have any role to play in it. I was ready for
> > > that.
>
> > > Q. Did you feel he was getting stronger at the end?
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I think I played a bad fifth set. But, no,
> > > I mean, he was playing solid. I think he tried to also kind of keep
> > > the points short, you know, through the fourth and fifth set, you
> > > know.
>
> > > So, yeah.
>
> > > Q. Did it hurt more because it could have been the 14th for you and
> > > you have to wait for another time?
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I mean, honestly, no. I mean, it's more
> > > like, you know, in the first moment you're disappointed, you're
> > > shocked, you're sad, you know, then all of a sudden it overwhelms you=
.
> > > The problem is you can't go in the locker room and just take it easy
> > > and take a cold shower. You can't. You know, you're stuck out there.
> > > It's the worst feeling, you know.
>
> > > So, I don't know, it's rough.
>
> > > Q. You mentioned you had problems with the first serve. You had only
> > > 52% of first serves in. You also had 19 breakpoints. That was
> > > happening on Nadal's serve. So what was the problem then? Only him
> > > serving well or you having some problems returning or what?
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: Well, I wish I was a lefty, too, playing him
> > > breakpoints on the ad side, not on the deuce side. Sure, a great
> > > advantage for him. It's not the first time (smiling).
>
> > > Q. Do you believe you still can beat him?
>
> > > ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, for sure. I didn't spend four and a half hours
> > > out there believing it [sic].
>
> > what a fool. Federer's problem is that he is deluding himself by
> > rationalising with "what if's"
>
> He needs to kick himself hard after this. Well, he cried, so I guess
> he knows how important this was.

Agreed.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 08:20:44
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 9:57=A0pm, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2:36=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Q. Could we have your thoughts on the match.
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I thought it was a good match. But, no, I mean, I
> > think I had, I guess, many chances. You know, I mean, I was up a break
> > in the first twice. Yeah, I mean, I had many chances. I missed them,
> > you know, and they cost me dearly.
>
> > It was a tough match. I don't think I served particularly well,
> > unfortunately. And I think that was the key to the match in the end.
>
> > Q. When you're not serving well, what kind of things are going through
> > your mind to try to get back?
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: Well, just hang in there. I mean, I won a set against
> > Rafa serving, what, 30% first serves. You know, I mean, it's makable.
> > I got a great second serve. Very reliable normally. I hit some stupid
> > double-faults, but that's going to happen in a five-set match
> > usually.
>
> > But, no, I mean, I tried to kind of get the grip on my serve, but
> > never really found the rhythm, which was a pity. You know, but it
> > happens.
>
> > Q. Can you take us through your emotions.
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: I mean, I fought hard, you know. I mean, I think I
> > played well. I'm happy with where my game's at. I wish my serve would
> > have been better, but that's something that sometimes is a bit, you
> > know, day-form issue, you know.
>
> > I have a completely different type of serve than Rafa. You know, he
> > makes sure he gets it in; I try to go and chase the lines. So
> > obviously you're always going to miss a few.
>
> > But, look, I mean, I love this game. It means the world to me, so it
> > hurts when you lose.
>
> > Q. A lot of us felt at the end of the fourth set that the momentum
> > probably had swung back in your direction. How tough is Nadal in a
> > fifth set?
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
> > anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better player
> > always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.
>
> > You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the first
> > place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
> > played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
> > him.
>
> > I mean, no doubt he's one of the tougher guys out there for a fifth
> > set - no doubt.
>
> > Q. Is there a feeling inside you that this is one that got away from
> > you?
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, well, I mean, kind of, you know. I mean, this is,
> > sure, one of the matches in my career where I feel like I could have
> > or should have won, you know.
>
> > But you can't go through your whole life as a tennis player taking
> > every victory, you know, that's out there. You've got to live with
> > those, you know. But they hurt even more so like if you're that close,
> > you know, like at Wimbledon or like here at the Australian Open.
>
> > So that's what's tough about it. But I have no regrets, you know. So
> > it's all right.
>
> > Q. Did you think him playing 5 hours, 14 minutes late on Friday night,
> > did you feel like his condition might go if you could stretch the
> > match out long enough?
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I knew it was not going to affect him a
> > whole lot, so didn't have any role to play in it. I was ready for
> > that.
>
> > Q. Did you feel he was getting stronger at the end?
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I think I played a bad fifth set. But, no,
> > I mean, he was playing solid. I think he tried to also kind of keep
> > the points short, you know, through the fourth and fifth set, you
> > know.
>
> > So, yeah.
>
> > Q. Did it hurt more because it could have been the 14th for you and
> > you have to wait for another time?
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I mean, honestly, no. I mean, it's more
> > like, you know, in the first moment you're disappointed, you're
> > shocked, you're sad, you know, then all of a sudden it overwhelms you.
> > The problem is you can't go in the locker room and just take it easy
> > and take a cold shower. You can't. You know, you're stuck out there.
> > It's the worst feeling, you know.
>
> > So, I don't know, it's rough.
>
> > Q. You mentioned you had problems with the first serve. You had only
> > 52% of first serves in. You also had 19 breakpoints. That was
> > happening on Nadal's serve. So what was the problem then? Only him
> > serving well or you having some problems returning or what?
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: Well, I wish I was a lefty, too, playing him
> > breakpoints on the ad side, not on the deuce side. Sure, a great
> > advantage for him. It's not the first time (smiling).
>
> > Q. Do you believe you still can beat him?
>
> > ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, for sure. I didn't spend four and a half hours
> > out there believing it [sic].
>
> what a fool. Federer's problem is that he is deluding himself by
> rationalising with "what if's"

He needs to kick himself hard after this. Well, he cried, so I guess
he knows how important this was.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 08:19:44
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 10:01=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 1, 3:25=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > wkhedr wrote:
> > > Q. Could we have your thoughts on the match.
>
> > Wilander was right. Federer has no balls when it comes to Nadal. He
> > has basically given up mentally, a little bit like Roddick/Hewitt
> > against Federer himself. He can't impose himself consistently on
> > Nadal, plays below par when the opposite is required. All this
> > demonstrates that mentally he is not there. He doesn't chastise
> > himself for making glaring mistakes. Doesn't let out his anger,
> > doesn't react outwardly to release his discontent. Instead he
> > internalizes it, simmers in it, starts looking philosophically at his
> > racket between the points, as if he would get the winner if he thought
> > long and hard enough. On-court thinkers don't win real-time tennis
> > matches.
>
> Nonsense - Sampras spent his entire career looking at his racket (or
> the fround) between points after making a mistake.
>

It was way different for Sampras. Federer is not Sampras. He doesn't
have the greatest 1st and 2nd serve in history. You don't get my
point.

> The idea is not to show any frustration to the opponent.

Like I didn't know that. That's not my point. Sometimes it helps to
let out frustration. Even for Federer. Especially in situations like
these.

Federer showed frustration in Miami 2005, slammed a racket down in the
third set and after that played more freely, showed more enterprise
and won the match. In Rome 2006 Federer was spitting on the court
every two points, taking shots at Uncle Toni and held two matchpoints
against Rafa. Sometimes you need an outburst to let the animal out of
you, to ride on it and maybe internally shake things up a bit so that
you can refocus on your game. Federer has been too afraid to do that
against Nadal for the past several matches. He didn't try all his
options, he didn't let out his frustration. He was in a shell. He
didn't want it hard enough. That's the ultimate mental reason why he
lost.



 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 08:11:07
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 9:57=A0am, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> what a fool. Federer's problem is that he is deluding himself by
> rationalising with "what if's"

Very true - I think Fed needs to realize that he needs to become a
better tennis player to beat Nadal. Thinking that he has the goods and
its his execution thats failing him is going to get him more defeats
and even more lopsided head to heads...


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 08:01:38
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 3:25=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> wkhedr wrote:
> > Q. Could we have your thoughts on the match.
>
> Wilander was right. Federer has no balls when it comes to Nadal. He
> has basically given up mentally, a little bit like Roddick/Hewitt
> against Federer himself. He can't impose himself consistently on
> Nadal, plays below par when the opposite is required. All this
> demonstrates that mentally he is not there. He doesn't chastise
> himself for making glaring mistakes. Doesn't let out his anger,
> doesn't react outwardly to release his discontent. Instead he
> internalizes it, simmers in it, starts looking philosophically at his
> racket between the points, as if he would get the winner if he thought
> long and hard enough. On-court thinkers don't win real-time tennis
> matches.

Nonsense - Sampras spent his entire career looking at his racket (or
the fround) between points after making a mistake.

The idea is not to show any frustration to the opponent.



 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 07:57:22
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 2:36=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> Q. Could we have your thoughts on the match.
>
> ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I thought it was a good match. But, no, I mean, I
> think I had, I guess, many chances. You know, I mean, I was up a break
> in the first twice. Yeah, I mean, I had many chances. I missed them,
> you know, and they cost me dearly.
>
> It was a tough match. I don't think I served particularly well,
> unfortunately. And I think that was the key to the match in the end.
>
> Q. When you're not serving well, what kind of things are going through
> your mind to try to get back?
>
> ROGER FEDERER: Well, just hang in there. I mean, I won a set against
> Rafa serving, what, 30% first serves. You know, I mean, it's makable.
> I got a great second serve. Very reliable normally. I hit some stupid
> double-faults, but that's going to happen in a five-set match
> usually.
>
> But, no, I mean, I tried to kind of get the grip on my serve, but
> never really found the rhythm, which was a pity. You know, but it
> happens.
>
> Q. Can you take us through your emotions.
>
> ROGER FEDERER: I mean, I fought hard, you know. I mean, I think I
> played well. I'm happy with where my game's at. I wish my serve would
> have been better, but that's something that sometimes is a bit, you
> know, day-form issue, you know.
>
> I have a completely different type of serve than Rafa. You know, he
> makes sure he gets it in; I try to go and chase the lines. So
> obviously you're always going to miss a few.
>
> But, look, I mean, I love this game. It means the world to me, so it
> hurts when you lose.
>
> Q. A lot of us felt at the end of the fourth set that the momentum
> probably had swung back in your direction. How tough is Nadal in a
> fifth set?
>
> ROGER FEDERER: Tough like many other guys. You know, in a fifth set,
> anything can happen. That's the problem. Not usually the better player
> always wins. Just a matter of momentum sometimes.
>
> You know, maybe I should have never been there, you know, in the first
> place. But, I mean, I think he played well. You know, I definitely
> played a terrible fifth set, you know. I kind of handed it over to
> him.
>
> I mean, no doubt he's one of the tougher guys out there for a fifth
> set - no doubt.
>
> Q. Is there a feeling inside you that this is one that got away from
> you?
>
> ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, well, I mean, kind of, you know. I mean, this is,
> sure, one of the matches in my career where I feel like I could have
> or should have won, you know.
>
> But you can't go through your whole life as a tennis player taking
> every victory, you know, that's out there. You've got to live with
> those, you know. But they hurt even more so like if you're that close,
> you know, like at Wimbledon or like here at the Australian Open.
>
> So that's what's tough about it. But I have no regrets, you know. So
> it's all right.
>
> Q. Did you think him playing 5 hours, 14 minutes late on Friday night,
> did you feel like his condition might go if you could stretch the
> match out long enough?
>
> ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I knew it was not going to affect him a
> whole lot, so didn't have any role to play in it. I was ready for
> that.
>
> Q. Did you feel he was getting stronger at the end?
>
> ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I think I played a bad fifth set. But, no,
> I mean, he was playing solid. I think he tried to also kind of keep
> the points short, you know, through the fourth and fifth set, you
> know.
>
> So, yeah.
>
> Q. Did it hurt more because it could have been the 14th for you and
> you have to wait for another time?
>
> ROGER FEDERER: Not really. I mean, honestly, no. I mean, it's more
> like, you know, in the first moment you're disappointed, you're
> shocked, you're sad, you know, then all of a sudden it overwhelms you.
> The problem is you can't go in the locker room and just take it easy
> and take a cold shower. You can't. You know, you're stuck out there.
> It's the worst feeling, you know.
>
> So, I don't know, it's rough.
>
> Q. You mentioned you had problems with the first serve. You had only
> 52% of first serves in. You also had 19 breakpoints. That was
> happening on Nadal's serve. So what was the problem then? Only him
> serving well or you having some problems returning or what?
>
> ROGER FEDERER: Well, I wish I was a lefty, too, playing him
> breakpoints on the ad side, not on the deuce side. Sure, a great
> advantage for him. It's not the first time (smiling).
>
> Q. Do you believe you still can beat him?
>
> ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, for sure. I didn't spend four and a half hours
> out there believing it [sic].

what a fool. Federer's problem is that he is deluding himself by
rationalising with "what if's"


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 07:25:45
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).


wkhedr wrote:
> Q. Could we have your thoughts on the match.

Wilander was right. Federer has no balls when it comes to Nadal. He
has basically given up mentally, a little bit like Roddick/Hewitt
against Federer himself. He can't impose himself consistently on
Nadal, plays below par when the opposite is required. All this
demonstrates that mentally he is not there. He doesn't chastise
himself for making glaring mistakes. Doesn't let out his anger,
doesn't react outwardly to release his discontent. Instead he
internalizes it, simmers in it, starts looking philosophically at his
racket between the points, as if he would get the winner if he thought
long and hard enough. On-court thinkers don't win real-time tennis
matches.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 07:12:07
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 9:08=A0am, kaennorsing <ljubit...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 1 feb, 15:59, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 8:44=A0am, Lax <Lax.Cla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > He did gift it.
>
> > > To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. =A0He didn't
> > > play near his best.
>
> > > Had Nadal played his best I think he would have beaten Fed playing hi=
s
> > > best (on this surface based on forms of late).
>
> > > Having said that, Fed only had to play a decent match to take this
> > > one, but he played like his nutsack was inverted and stuck inside his
> > > body.
>
> > Nadal now beats Federer because he is just better than Federer now.
> > None of this "Fed is in Nadal's head" type nonsense. Sure, Fed has his
> > chances here and there, but the outcome is very predictable. Its just
> > like Fed playing Roddick. Roddick also has his odd chances here and
> > there, but ultimately Fed prevails there because he is better than
> > Roddick. Sometimes we think if only he had done this or that he might
> > have won. But ultimately, thats not why he loses. Same with Fed and
> > Nadal, though the difference is less of course, but its still enough
> > to make Nadal the winner every time...
>
> It's much closer than Federer-Roddick. 13-6 vs 16-2. I would imagine
> if Roddick played Federer on clay the difference would be greater
> still.

yes, I did say that the difference between Nadal-Fed is less than Fed-
Roddick. But since Nadal has improved (during the clay season last
year) its 5-0 (3 on clay, 1 on grass and 1 on hard) in Nadal's favor...


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 07:08:21
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On 1 feb, 15:59, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 8:44=A0am, Lax <Lax.Cla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > He did gift it.
>
> > To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. =A0He didn't
> > play near his best.
>
> > Had Nadal played his best I think he would have beaten Fed playing his
> > best (on this surface based on forms of late).
>
> > Having said that, Fed only had to play a decent match to take this
> > one, but he played like his nutsack was inverted and stuck inside his
> > body.
>
> Nadal now beats Federer because he is just better than Federer now.
> None of this "Fed is in Nadal's head" type nonsense. Sure, Fed has his
> chances here and there, but the outcome is very predictable. Its just
> like Fed playing Roddick. Roddick also has his odd chances here and
> there, but ultimately Fed prevails there because he is better than
> Roddick. Sometimes we think if only he had done this or that he might
> have won. But ultimately, thats not why he loses. Same with Fed and
> Nadal, though the difference is less of course, but its still enough
> to make Nadal the winner every time...

It's much closer than Federer-Roddick. 13-6 vs 16-2. I would imagine
if Roddick played Federer on clay the difference would be greater
still.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:59:06
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Feb 1, 8:44=A0am, Lax <Lax.Cla...@gmail.com > wrote:
> He did gift it.
>
> To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. =A0He didn't
> play near his best.
>
> Had Nadal played his best I think he would have beaten Fed playing his
> best (on this surface based on forms of late).
>
> Having said that, Fed only had to play a decent match to take this
> one, but he played like his nutsack was inverted and stuck inside his
> body.

Nadal now beats Federer because he is just better than Federer now.
None of this "Fed is in Nadal's head" type nonsense. Sure, Fed has his
chances here and there, but the outcome is very predictable. Its just
like Fed playing Roddick. Roddick also has his odd chances here and
there, but ultimately Fed prevails there because he is better than
Roddick. Sometimes we think if only he had done this or that he might
have won. But ultimately, thats not why he loses. Same with Fed and
Nadal, though the difference is less of course, but its still enough
to make Nadal the winner every time...


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 02:07:14
From: john
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).

"RahimAsif" <RahimAsif@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:09337104-bcbd-4578-a4c7-768c77e19dd2@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 1, 8:44 am, Lax <Lax.Cla...@gmail.com > wrote:
> He did gift it.
>
> To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. He didn't
> play near his best.
>
> Had Nadal played his best I think he would have beaten Fed playing his
> best (on this surface based on forms of late).
>
> Having said that, Fed only had to play a decent match to take this
> one, but he played like his nutsack was inverted and stuck inside his
> body.

Nadal now beats Federer because he is just better than Federer now.
None of this "Fed is in Nadal's head" type nonsense. Sure, Fed has his
chances here and there, but the outcome is very predictable. Its just
like Fed playing Roddick. Roddick also has his odd chances here and
there, but ultimately Fed prevails there because he is better than
Roddick. Sometimes we think if only he had done this or that he might
have won. But ultimately, thats not why he loses. Same with Fed and
Nadal, though the difference is less of course, but its still enough
to make Nadal the winner every time...

I hope that Federer does not take your sort of attitude going into their
next matches
because that will mean he will loss again. Federer had a lot of more
chance than
Roddick ever had in his match against Federer, Roddick probably had 3 break
points
in the whole match. Federer played poorly with his break chances and he had
17
break chances only manage 4 and Nadal was about 50% conversion rate on his
break
chances, Nadal was better than Federer on big points that made the
difference.




 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:44:11
From: Lax
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
He did gift it.

To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. He didn't
play near his best.

Had Nadal played his best I think he would have beaten Fed playing his
best (on this surface based on forms of late).

Having said that, Fed only had to play a decent match to take this
one, but he played like his nutsack was inverted and stuck inside his
body.



  
Date: 01 Feb 2009 20:41:48
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).

"Lax" <Lax.Clarke@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:af5a40ea-fe2b-4086-82aa-1222ce26b232@r41g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
> He did gift it.
>
> To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. He didn't
> play near his best.
>
> Had Nadal played his best I think he would have beaten Fed playing his
> best (on this surface based on forms of late).
>
> Having said that, Fed only had to play a decent match to take this
> one, but he played like his nutsack was inverted and stuck inside his
> body.

I still think game-wise, Federer would have won this match if he had been at
his "best". Even if Nadal is at his "best".
The problem for him is, that he's almost always not at his best when playing
Nadal. And that's no coincedence. Rafa has something do to with it.

Regarding this match, Fed served badly, Rafa was tired. But it made them
even and the drama was there, great points as well, and again Nadal's mind,
saving numerous break-points saved the day.




  
Date: 01 Feb 2009 15:51:21
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
Lax wrote:
> He did gift it.
>
> To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. He didn't
> play near his best.

Well, I think Nadal played a great match. Especially his backhand was
solid and more aggressive than I have ever seen it before. His footwork
was amazing almost the whole match so I cannot understand the claim that
he was worn out from the start.

That being said, Federer had his chances (as he usually collects on HC),
but played too inconsistently and was obviously bothered by the
occasion. Unfortunately that fifth set was the poorest set in quality
from both players, I would say.

PS.


   
Date: 01 Feb 2009 23:16:33
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Federer's Interview (he feels he gifted the match).
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:51:21 +0100, Petter Solbu
<pettermann1984@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Lax wrote:
>> He did gift it.
>>
>> To be honest, Nadal was clearly worn out from the start. He didn't
>> play near his best.
>
>Well, I think Nadal played a great match. Especially his backhand was
>solid and more aggressive than I have ever seen it before. His footwork
>was amazing almost the whole match so I cannot understand the claim that
>he was worn out from the start.

Yes, I think nadal played a very good match. He maybe started to look
a little tired at some point, but not so much that it made much
difference. And I think fed played well too, except the serve. Normal
serving day, and this might have been different.