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Date: 13 Jan 2009 10:40:44
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Subject: Federer's arrogance continues...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236



Federer's arrogance continues...
Australian Open
by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009

I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
worked for it.

In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.

"He's the favourite?"

"Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
added.

"I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."

"He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
tactics and has become very confident.

"He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
is a different animal.

"Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
years."

What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?





 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 12:18:49
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 15, 8:06=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 15, 6:07 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Jan 15, 1:53 pm, Giovanna <giovana...@bol.com.br> wrote:
> >>>>>> Did you watch the press conference?
> >>>>> I did. It was said with malice.
> >>>> geez liar!!!!!
> >>> Here's a clip of the interview - at around 1:30 in this Federer talks
> >>> about Murray's chances. This isn't all of it though - the initial par=
t
> >>> of his answer is not included.
> >> If you want to accuse me of lying you should come up with the whole
> >> clip. Clip you posted didn't include the part I saw.
>
> > I didn't accuse you of anything, dickhead.
>
> You posted the clip to answer Giovanna's reply "geez liar!!!", fuckface.
>
> > How can you be lying if you
> > are expressing an opinion rather than a fact?
>
> How the hell should I know. Ask Giovanna.
>
> > I posted part of the clip and made it clear that there was some
> > missing. The bit that was missing wasn't on the Eurosport site - why
> > don't you give them a call and demand that they make it available?
>
> It's your task, you're the one trying to prove quote "not as bad as it's
> made out. He said it in quite a low-key manner", cuntface.

It's not my "task" to "prove" anything - I can't prove that your
opinion is wrong.

My opinion is that there wasn't much in it. I posted the rest of the
clip to give an idea of what Federer's tone was like for the rest of
the interview which was available.

You believe he said it "with malice". I disagree.




 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 10:51:58
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 15, 6:07=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 15, 1:53 pm, Giovanna <giovana...@bol.com.br> wrote:
> >>>> Did you watch the press conference?
> >>> I did. It was said with malice.
> >> geez liar!!!!!
>
> > Here's a clip of the interview - at around 1:30 in this Federer talks
> > about Murray's chances. This isn't all of it though - the initial part
> > of his answer is not included.
>
> If you want to accuse me of lying you should come up with the whole
> clip. Clip you posted didn't include the part I saw.
>

I didn't accuse you of anything, dickhead. How can you be lying if you
are expressing an opinion rather than a fact?

I posted part of the clip and made it clear that there was some
missing. The bit that was missing wasn't on the Eurosport site - why
don't you give them a call and demand that they make it available?





  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 22:06:19
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 15, 6:07 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jan 15, 1:53 pm, Giovanna <giovana...@bol.com.br> wrote:
>>>>>> Did you watch the press conference?
>>>>> I did. It was said with malice.
>>>> geez liar!!!!!
>>> Here's a clip of the interview - at around 1:30 in this Federer talks
>>> about Murray's chances. This isn't all of it though - the initial part
>>> of his answer is not included.
>> If you want to accuse me of lying you should come up with the whole
>> clip. Clip you posted didn't include the part I saw.
>>

>
> I didn't accuse you of anything, dickhead.

You posted the clip to answer Giovanna's reply "geez liar!!!", fuckface.


> How can you be lying if you
> are expressing an opinion rather than a fact?
>

How the hell should I know. Ask Giovanna.

> I posted part of the clip and made it clear that there was some
> missing. The bit that was missing wasn't on the Eurosport site - why
> don't you give them a call and demand that they make it available?
>

It's your task, you're the one trying to prove quote "not as bad as it's
made out. He said it in quite a low-key manner", cuntface.


 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 08:02:17
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 15, 1:53=A0pm, Giovanna <giovana...@bol.com.br > wrote:
> > > Did you watch the press conference?
>
> > I did. It was said with malice.
>
> geez liar!!!!!

Here's a clip of the interview - at around 1:30 in this Federer talks
about Murray's chances. This isn't all of it though - the initial part
of his answer is not included.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/ukyvideo?ch=3D5127641&cl=3D11521832&lang=3D



  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 20:07:09
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 15, 1:53 pm, Giovanna <giovana...@bol.com.br> wrote:
>>>> Did you watch the press conference?
>>> I did. It was said with malice.
>> geez liar!!!!!
>
> Here's a clip of the interview - at around 1:30 in this Federer talks
> about Murray's chances. This isn't all of it though - the initial part
> of his answer is not included.

If you want to accuse me of lying you should come up with the whole
clip. Clip you posted didn't include the part I saw.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 06:04:22
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On 15 Jan., 18:11, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <v...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> >"I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
> >think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
> >everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
> >Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
> >he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
> >=97 best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
> >play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
> >on the favorite to win Melbourne
> >http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=3D6625187
>
> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.

Federer is using the word "crushed" a lot lately. Is he being arrogant
on behalf of Rafa? :)

I think the more likely explanation is that he has been reading a lot
of English tennis news articles on the Internet and just picked up
this specimen of bad journalist lingo. He thinks it's normal to say it
in person.


  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 20:42:29
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 15 Jan., 18:11, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <v...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
>>> think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
>>> everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
>>> Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
>>> he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
>>> — best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
>>> play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
>>> on the favorite to win Melbourne
>>> http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6625187
>> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.
>
> Federer is using the word "crushed" a lot lately. Is he being arrogant
> on behalf of Rafa? :)
>
> I think the more likely explanation is that he has been reading a lot
> of English tennis news articles on the Internet and just picked up
> this specimen of bad journalist lingo. He thinks it's normal to say it
> in person.


And you know this how exactly?



  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 16:18:35
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:04:22 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
<arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote:

>On 15 Jan., 18:11, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <v...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
>> >think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
>> >everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
>> >Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
>> >he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
>> >— best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
>> >play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
>> >on the favorite to win Melbourne
>> >http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6625187
>>
>> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.
>
>Federer is using the word "crushed" a lot lately. Is he being arrogant
>on behalf of Rafa? :)
>
>I think the more likely explanation is that he has been reading a lot
>of English tennis news articles on the Internet and just picked up
>this specimen of bad journalist lingo. He thinks it's normal to say it
>in person.

This is what I mean that people read his interviews with a microscope
and try to find words that they can attack. It tells a lot more about
these people than about Federer.




   
Date: 15 Jan 2009 15:19:08
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:04:22 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
> <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 15 Jan., 18:11, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <v...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
>>>> think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
>>>> everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
>>>> Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
>>>> he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
>>>> — best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
>>>> play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
>>>> on the favorite to win Melbourne
>>>> http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6625187
>>> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.
>> Federer is using the word "crushed" a lot lately. Is he being arrogant
>> on behalf of Rafa? :)
>>
>> I think the more likely explanation is that he has been reading a lot
>> of English tennis news articles on the Internet and just picked up
>> this specimen of bad journalist lingo. He thinks it's normal to say it
>> in person.
>
> This is what I mean that people read his interviews with a microscope
> and try to find words that they can attack. It tells a lot more about
> these people than about Federer.
>
>

We are learning nothing new about these people for sure. Attacking
Federer seems to be their life!

Jason Catlin, for example, has thrown tens of thousands of words
attacking Federer's legacy onto rst in 2009. Must be feeling terribly
threatened and is taking Federer's slam count all too personally.

--
Cheers,

vc


    
Date: 16 Jan 2009 20:49:36
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
Vari L. Cinicke wrote:
> Sakari Lund wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:04:22 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
>> <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 15 Jan., 18:11, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <v...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
>>>>> think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
>>>>> everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
>>>>> Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
>>>>> he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
>>>>> — best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
>>>>> play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
>>>>> on the favorite to win Melbourne
>>>>> http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6625187
>>>> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.
>>> Federer is using the word "crushed" a lot lately. Is he being arrogant
>>> on behalf of Rafa? :)
>>>
>>> I think the more likely explanation is that he has been reading a lot
>>> of English tennis news articles on the Internet and just picked up
>>> this specimen of bad journalist lingo. He thinks it's normal to say it
>>> in person.
>>
>> This is what I mean that people read his interviews with a microscope
>> and try to find words that they can attack. It tells a lot more about
>> these people than about Federer.
>>
>>
>
> We are learning nothing new about these people for sure. Attacking
> Federer seems to be their life!
>
> Jason Catlin, for example, has thrown tens of thousands of words
> attacking Federer's legacy onto rst in 2009. Must be feeling terribly
> threatened and is taking Federer's slam count all too personally.
>


He's just stating the obvious - Fed has less numbers than Sampras.



     
Date: 16 Jan 2009 10:55:23
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:49:36 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Vari L. Cinicke wrote:
>> Sakari Lund wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:04:22 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
>>> <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15 Jan., 18:11, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <v...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
>>>>>> think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
>>>>>> everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
>>>>>> Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
>>>>>> he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
>>>>>> — best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
>>>>>> play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
>>>>>> on the favorite to win Melbourne
>>>>>> http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6625187
>>>>> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.
>>>> Federer is using the word "crushed" a lot lately. Is he being arrogant
>>>> on behalf of Rafa? :)
>>>>
>>>> I think the more likely explanation is that he has been reading a lot
>>>> of English tennis news articles on the Internet and just picked up
>>>> this specimen of bad journalist lingo. He thinks it's normal to say it
>>>> in person.
>>>
>>> This is what I mean that people read his interviews with a microscope
>>> and try to find words that they can attack. It tells a lot more about
>>> these people than about Federer.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> We are learning nothing new about these people for sure. Attacking
>> Federer seems to be their life!
>>
>> Jason Catlin, for example, has thrown tens of thousands of words
>> attacking Federer's legacy onto rst in 2009. Must be feeling terribly
>> threatened and is taking Federer's slam count all too personally.
>>
>
>
>He's just stating the obvious - Fed has less numbers than Sampras.

that depends which ones you count. i expect after Fed wins #15 you
won't be counting slams anymore either right ?


   
Date: 15 Jan 2009 16:21:06
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:04:22 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
> <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 15 Jan., 18:11, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <v...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
>>>> think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
>>>> everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
>>>> Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
>>>> he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
>>>> — best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
>>>> play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
>>>> on the favorite to win Melbourne
>>>> http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6625187
>>> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.
>> Federer is using the word "crushed" a lot lately. Is he being arrogant
>> on behalf of Rafa? :)
>>
>> I think the more likely explanation is that he has been reading a lot
>> of English tennis news articles on the Internet and just picked up
>> this specimen of bad journalist lingo. He thinks it's normal to say it
>> in person.
>
> This is what I mean that people read his interviews with a microscope
> and try to find words that they can attack. It tells a lot more about
> these people than about Federer.
>
>

So does your comment.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


    
Date: 15 Jan 2009 16:28:03
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:21:06 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org > wrote:

>Sakari Lund wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:04:22 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
>> <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 15 Jan., 18:11, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <v...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
>>>>> think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
>>>>> everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
>>>>> Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
>>>>> he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
>>>>> — best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
>>>>> play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
>>>>> on the favorite to win Melbourne
>>>>> http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6625187
>>>> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.
>>> Federer is using the word "crushed" a lot lately. Is he being arrogant
>>> on behalf of Rafa? :)
>>>
>>> I think the more likely explanation is that he has been reading a lot
>>> of English tennis news articles on the Internet and just picked up
>>> this specimen of bad journalist lingo. He thinks it's normal to say it
>>> in person.
>>
>> This is what I mean that people read his interviews with a microscope
>> and try to find words that they can attack. It tells a lot more about
>> these people than about Federer.
>>
>>
>
>So does your comment.

Well yes. My comment doesn't tell anything about Federer.



 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 05:53:03
From: Giovanna
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...

> > Did you watch the press conference?
>
> I did. It was said with malice.

geez liar!!!!!


  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 14:39:14
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:53:03 -0800 (PST), Giovanna
<giovanapel@bol.com.br > wrote:

>
>> > Did you watch the press conference?
>>
>> I did. It was said with malice.
>
>geez liar!!!!!


you are soooooo beautiful when you get angry !


  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 16:19:45
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
Giovanna wrote:
>>> Did you watch the press conference?
>> I did. It was said with malice.
>
> geez liar!!!!!

That is my honest interpretation.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 14:00:04
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
Giovanna wrote:
>>> Did you watch the press conference?
>> I did. It was said with malice.
>
> geez liar!!!!!

Mind readers are a valuable asset to rst and you should not mock them.
Ask them instead what you really think of Federer! :-)

--
Cheers,

vc


 
Date: 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35
From: vmw3
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...


"I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
=97 best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
on the favorite to win Melbourne
http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=3D6625187


  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 14:11:45
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <vmw3@lycos.com > wrote:

>
>
>"I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
>think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
>everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
>Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
>he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
>— best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
>play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
>on the favorite to win Melbourne
>http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6625187

Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.


   
Date: 15 Jan 2009 16:16:38
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <vmw3@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. I
>> think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almost
>> everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the US
>> Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as well
>> he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played well
>> — best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he didn't
>> play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer,
>> on the favorite to win Melbourne
>> http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=6625187
>
> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.

And how do you know this?

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 14 Jan 2009 03:22:07
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 14, 10:39=A0am, "Iceberg" <big_bad_iceb...@moc.oohay > wrote:
> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f4ef2cf3-e343-4794-a494-ee36e14361e1@r40g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 13, 6:40 pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>
> > Federer's arrogance continues...
> > Australian Open
> > by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>
> > I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
> > position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
> > is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
> > unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
> > worked for it.
>
> > In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
> > without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>
> > "He's the favourite?"
>
> > "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
> > added.
>
> > "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>
> > "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
> > tactics and has become very confident.
>
> > "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
> > is a different animal.
>
> > "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
> > years."
>
> > What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?
>
> I just watched him say this on Eurosport and it's honestly not as bad
> as it's made out. He said it in quite a low-key manner, not bitter or
> trying to put Murray down, just pointing out that moving to win a slam
> is a slightly bigger step.
>
> Also, there are some bits left out of the original quotes - maybe
> someone should post the actual transcript, not selected parts ...
>
> You love Fed though

Did you watch the press conference?





  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 00:05:51
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 14, 10:39 am, "Iceberg" <big_bad_iceb...@moc.oohay> wrote:
>> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:f4ef2cf3-e343-4794-a494-ee36e14361e1@r40g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 13, 6:40 pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>>> Federer's arrogance continues...
>>> Australian Open
>>> by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>>> I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
>>> position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
>>> is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
>>> unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
>>> worked for it.
>>> In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
>>> without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>>> "He's the favourite?"
>>> "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
>>> added.
>>> "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>>> "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
>>> tactics and has become very confident.
>>> "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
>>> is a different animal.
>>> "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
>>> years."
>>> What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?
>> I just watched him say this on Eurosport and it's honestly not as bad
>> as it's made out. He said it in quite a low-key manner, not bitter or
>> trying to put Murray down, just pointing out that moving to win a slam
>> is a slightly bigger step.
>>
>> Also, there are some bits left out of the original quotes - maybe
>> someone should post the actual transcript, not selected parts ...
>>
>> You love Fed though
>
> Did you watch the press conference?
>

I did. It was said with malice.


--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 16:17:32
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 13, 6:40=A0pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>
> Federer's arrogance continues...
> Australian Open
> by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>
> I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
> position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
> is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
> unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
> worked for it.
>
> In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
> without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>
> "He's the favourite?"
>
> "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
> added.
>
> "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>
> "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
> tactics and has become very confident.
>
> "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
> is a different animal.
>
> "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
> years."
>
> What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?

I just watched him say this on Eurosport and it's honestly not as bad
as it's made out. He said it in quite a low-key manner, not bitter or
trying to put Murray down, just pointing out that moving to win a slam
is a slightly bigger step.

Also, there are some bits left out of the original quotes - maybe
someone should post the actual transcript, not selected parts ...





  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 07:28:19
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 15, 10:19=A0am, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net > wrote:
> Sakari Lund wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:04:22 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
> > <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 15 Jan., 18:11, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:39:35 -0800 (PST), vmw3 <v...@lycos.com> wrote=
:
>
> >>>> "I would always pick Rafael. He had an incredible season last year. =
I
> >>>> think he won the Olympics pretty comfortably, you know, crushed almo=
st
> >>>> everybody on the way, and I thought he was playing well and at the U=
S
> >>>> Open as well, and I thought what I saw of him playing in Doha as wel=
l
> >>>> he was playing that well as well. Just came up a few more, played we=
ll
> >>>> =97 best of three sets, it's over in a hurry. Let's not forget he di=
dn't
> >>>> play the Masters, so he couldn't really show there." --Roger Federer=
,
> >>>> on the favorite to win Melbourne
> >>>>http://www.tennisweek.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=3D6625187
> >>> Such a diplomat. He doesn't really believe Rafa is the favourite.
> >> Federer is using the word "crushed" a lot lately. Is he being arrogant
> >> on behalf of Rafa? :)
>
> >> I think the more likely explanation is that he has been reading a lot
> >> of English tennis news articles on the Internet and just picked up
> >> this specimen of bad journalist lingo. He thinks it's normal to say it
> >> in person.
>
> > This is what I mean that people read his interviews with a microscope
> > and try to find words that they can attack. It tells a lot more about
> > these people than about Federer.
>
> We are learning nothing new about these people for sure. Attacking
> Federer seems to be their life!
>
> Jason Catlin, for example, has thrown tens of thousands of words
> attacking Federer's legacy onto rst in 2009. Must be feeling terribly
> threatened and is taking Federer's slam count all too personally.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> vc- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Do you have anything substantive to say, or is this just some hissy
fit on your part because I point out
a few facts not approved by the Fed fan club?


  
Date: 14 Jan 2009 10:39:23
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
<gregorawe@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:f4ef2cf3-e343-4794-a494-ee36e14361e1@r40g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 13, 6:40 pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>
> Federer's arrogance continues...
> Australian Open
> by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>
> I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
> position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
> is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
> unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
> worked for it.
>
> In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
> without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>
> "He's the favourite?"
>
> "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
> added.
>
> "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>
> "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
> tactics and has become very confident.
>
> "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
> is a different animal.
>
> "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
> years."
>
> What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?

I just watched him say this on Eurosport and it's honestly not as bad
as it's made out. He said it in quite a low-key manner, not bitter or
trying to put Murray down, just pointing out that moving to win a slam
is a slightly bigger step.

Also, there are some bits left out of the original quotes - maybe
someone should post the actual transcript, not selected parts ...


You love Fed though.




 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 16:10:20
From: thunderbolt.bob@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 13, 1:40=A0pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>
> Federer's arrogance continues...
> Australian Open
> by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>
> I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
> position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
> is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
> unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
> worked for it.
>
> In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
> without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>
> "He's the favourite?"
>
> "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
> added.
>
> "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>
> "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
> tactics and has become very confident.
>
> "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
> is a different animal.
>
> "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
> years."
>
> What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?

Not an arrogant attitude at all. Watching Fed's career for a few
years, I know him, and
these words are just trying to be pragmatic and answer a question.
I believe (hope) that he's totally correct about the slam factor.


 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 15:25:07
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 13, 4:42=A0pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided > wrote:
> Jason Catlin wrote:
> > On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, mzgurl <mzgur...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> x-no-archive: yes
>
> >> at the azopen I am going to enjoy watching Federina get his prissy
> >> bitch ass owned like a whore again by his master Murray lol!!!!
>
> > Ca1houn?
>
> No, definitely not.

mzgurl is definitely inspired by (brokeback) calhountain


  
Date: 14 Jan 2009 00:55:47
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:25:07 -0800 (PST), Raja <zepfloyes@gmail.com >
wrote:

>On Jan 13, 4:42 pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>> Jason Catlin wrote:
>> > On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, mzgurl <mzgur...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> >> at the azopen I am going to enjoy watching Federina get his prissy
>> >> bitch ass owned like a whore again by his master Murray lol!!!!
>>
>> > Ca1houn?
>>
>> No, definitely not.
>
>mzgurl is definitely inspired by (brokeback) calhountain


mzgurl is a cuntful of worms


 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 14:39:09
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 13, 5:33=A0pm, mzgurl <mzgur...@optonline.net > wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> at the azopen I am going to enjoy watching Federina get his prissy
> bitch ass owned like a whore again by his master Murray lol!!!!

Ca1houn?


  
Date: 14 Jan 2009 09:42:18
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
Jason Catlin wrote:
> On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, mzgurl <mzgur...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> at the azopen I am going to enjoy watching Federina get his prissy
>> bitch ass owned like a whore again by his master Murray lol!!!!
>
> Ca1houn?

No, definitely not.




 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 14:33:32
From: mzgurl
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
x-no-archive: yes

at the azopen I am going to enjoy watching Federina get his prissy
bitch ass owned like a whore again by his master Murray lol!!!!


  
Date: 14 Jan 2009 09:41:15
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
mzgurl wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> at the azopen I am going to enjoy watching Federina get his prissy
> bitch ass owned like a whore again by his master Murray lol!!!!

Your posts continue to set the standard here at RST.




 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 13:41:53
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 13, 1:25=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>
> > Federer's arrogance continues...
> > Australian Open
> > by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>
> > I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
> > position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
> > is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
> > unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
> > worked for it.
>
> > In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
> > without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>
> > "He's the favourite?"
>
> > "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
> > added.
>
> > "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>
> > "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
> > tactics and has become very confident.
>
> > "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
> > is a different animal.
>
> > "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
> > years."
>
> > What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?
>
> Vintage Federer.

Vintage Whisper...

Rodjk #613


 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 12:48:52
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 13, 1:56=A0pm, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 13, 12:40=A0pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>
> > Federer's arrogance continues...
> > Australian Open
> > by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>
> > I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
> > position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
> > is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
> > unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
> > worked for it.
>
> > In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
> > without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>
> > "He's the favourite?"
>
> > "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
> > added.
>
> > "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>
> > "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
> > tactics and has become very confident.
>
> > "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
> > is a different animal.
>
> > "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
> > years."
>
> > What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?
>
> Taken out of context.
> Just more trolling...
>
> Rodjk #613- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It seems his talk made him the favorite now at 3.9 and Murray at 3.95.


 
Date: 14 Jan 2009 06:25:06
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
oceanaught@netlimit.com wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>
>
>
> Federer's arrogance continues...
> Australian Open
> by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>
> I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
> position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
> is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
> unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
> worked for it.
>
> In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
> without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>
> "He's the favourite?"
>
> "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
> added.
>
> "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>
> "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
> tactics and has become very confident.
>
> "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
> is a different animal.
>
> "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
> years."
>
> What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?
>


Vintage Federer.



 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 11:12:53
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 13, 1:40=A0pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>
> Federer's arrogance continues...
> Australian Open
> by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>
> I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
> position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
> is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
> unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
> worked for it.
>
> In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
> without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>
> "He's the favourite?"
>
> "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
> added.
>
> "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>
> "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
> tactics and has become very confident.
>
> "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
> is a different animal.
>
> "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
> years."
>
> What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?

Post the entire thing, not just small pieces out of context.


  
Date: 13 Jan 2009 22:10:16
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
wkhedr wrote:
> On Jan 13, 1:40 pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>>
>> Federer's arrogance continues...
>> Australian Open
>> by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>>
>> I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
>> position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
>> is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
>> unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
>> worked for it.
>>
>> In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
>> without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>>
>> "He's the favourite?"
>>
>> "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
>> added.
>>
>> "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>>
>> "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
>> tactics and has become very confident.
>>
>> "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
>> is a different animal.
>>
>> "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
>> years."
>>
>> What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?
>
> Post the entire thing, not just small pieces out of context.

The BBC forums are more civilized than rst but not necessarily more
sensible. It is just a unsolicited post and should be treated as such.

--
Cheers,

vc


 
Date: 13 Jan 2009 10:56:46
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
On Jan 13, 12:40=A0pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>
> Federer's arrogance continues...
> Australian Open
> by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>
> I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
> position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
> is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
> unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
> worked for it.
>
> In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
> without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>
> "He's the favourite?"
>
> "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
> added.
>
> "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>
> "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
> tactics and has become very confident.
>
> "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
> is a different animal.
>
> "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
> years."
>
> What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?

Taken out of context.
Just more trolling...

Rodjk #613


  
Date: 14 Jan 2009 00:22:12
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's arrogance continues...
Rodjk #613 wrote:
> On Jan 13, 12:40 pm, oceanau...@netlimit.com wrote:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45900236
>>
>> Federer's arrogance continues...
>> Australian Open
>> by gianderosa1990 (U8117729) 13 January 2009
>>
>> I am quite surprised by Federer's reaction to losing his number 1
>> position, he's turned somewhat bitter. He's becoming a soar loser. He
>> is most of the time extremely rude to one Andy Murray which I think is
>> unfair, so what if Andy has had a perfect start, he earned it and
>> worked for it.
>>
>> In a media conference at the Kooyong Classic. He shrugs off Murray
>> without any consideration. Here are some of his quotes.
>>
>> "He's the favourite?"
>>
>> "Good for him. It won't help him a whole lot," the smiling Swiss
>> added.
>>
>> "I won the last slam of last season so it is surprising to hear."
>>
>> "He has played excellent. He's a good all round player, has good
>> tactics and has become very confident.
>>
>> "He has put himself into a winning position, but winning a Grand Slam
>> is a different animal.
>>
>> "Not many guys have been able to win grand slams in the last few
>> years."
>>
>> What do you guys think? Bad attitude or what?

>
> Taken out of context.

lol. sure...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"