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Date: 02 Jan 2009 16:59:27
From:
Subject: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-federer-in-abu-dhabi

"I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
badly as I was last year."

Sounds like he's fully embraced the Sampras half-arsed-apart-from-
Slams approach.

What titles/records was he chasing last year? Does he mean he's not
focused on trying to get the #1 ranking back?





 
Date: 04 Jan 2009 18:36:53
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> What titles/records was he chasing last year?

Apparently Estoril and Halle. Can we expect less results outside of
majors now that he isn't "arsed" anymore?


--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 21:58:40
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:59:27 -0800 (PST), gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:

>http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-federer-in-abu-dhabi
>
>"I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
>long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
>to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
>badly as I was last year."

The beginning sounds like he has really realized he will lose some
matches these days. Maybe last year he thought his losses were some
kind of accidents.

The last sentence sounds a bit worrying. Titles OK, he doesn't need to
chase tune-up titles. Records? There is basically only one record he
is chasing, and that is 14. And he should be chasing that badly.


  
Date: 04 Jan 2009 22:30:51
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:59:27 -0800 (PST), gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-federer-in-abu-dhabi
>>
>> "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
>> long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
>> to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
>> badly as I was last year."
>
> The beginning sounds like he has really realized he will lose some
> matches these days. Maybe last year he thought his losses were some
> kind of accidents.
>
> The last sentence sounds a bit worrying. Titles OK, he doesn't need to
> chase tune-up titles. Records? There is basically only one record he
> is chasing, and that is 14. And he should be chasing that badly.



The pressure could be getting to him & he's cracking up.



  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 22:18:53
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:59:27 -0800 (PST), gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-federer-in-abu-dhabi
>>
>> "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
>> long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
>> to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
>> badly as I was last year."
>
> The beginning sounds like he has really realized he will lose some
> matches these days. Maybe last year he thought his losses were some
> kind of accidents.
>
> The last sentence sounds a bit worrying. Titles OK, he doesn't need to
> chase tune-up titles. Records? There is basically only one record he
> is chasing, and that is 14. And he should be chasing that badly.

Maybe he wants to chase them well instead of badly.

--
Cheers,

vc


   
Date: 04 Jan 2009 18:48:09
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:18:53 GMT, "Vari L. Cinicke"
<cinicke@netscape.net > wrote:

>Sakari Lund wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:59:27 -0800 (PST), gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-federer-in-abu-dhabi
>>>
>>> "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
>>> long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
>>> to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
>>> badly as I was last year."
>>
>> The beginning sounds like he has really realized he will lose some
>> matches these days. Maybe last year he thought his losses were some
>> kind of accidents.
>>
>> The last sentence sounds a bit worrying. Titles OK, he doesn't need to
>> chase tune-up titles. Records? There is basically only one record he
>> is chasing, and that is 14. And he should be chasing that badly.
>
>Maybe he wants to chase them well instead of badly.

Good point :-)




 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 10:18:41
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 3, 5:54=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 3, 6:43 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:ndotl4hrr23p31pv5t98pp2fvn48mti51o@4ax.com...
>
> >>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >>>> "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com=
...
> >>>>> He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
> >>>> Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
> >>> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
> >>> unequivocal GOAT =A0with the record number of slams on the record num=
ber
> >>> of surfaces !
> >> Keep fantasizing Dave, nobody but Nadal will be winning the FO for 4-5
> >> years...
>
> > That's a bold prediction - a friend of mine said a couple of years ago
> > that Federer would win the next 6 Wimbledons ...
>
> And you agreed...

No I didn't





  
Date: 04 Jan 2009 01:23:49
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:18:41 -0800 (PST), gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Jan 3, 5:54 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > On Jan 3, 6:43 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> >> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:ndotl4hrr23p31pv5t98pp2fvn48mti51o@4ax.com...
>>
>> >>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> >>>> "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>> He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>> >>>> Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>> >>> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
>> >>> unequivocal GOAT  with the record number of slams on the record number
>> >>> of surfaces !
>> >> Keep fantasizing Dave, nobody but Nadal will be winning the FO for 4-5
>> >> years...
>>
>> > That's a bold prediction - a friend of mine said a couple of years ago
>> > that Federer would win the next 6 Wimbledons ...
>>
>> And you agreed...
>
>No I didn't
>
>


you should have.


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 08:50:54
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 3, 7:50=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:00:16 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
>
>
>
>
> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 3, 4:57=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >> >"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com=
...
> >> >>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>
> >> >Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>
> >> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
> >> unequivocal GOAT =A0with the record number of slams on the record numb=
er
> >> of surfaces !
>
> >It would take a miracle for Federer to win the French. He has a much
> >better chance of winning at least two of the other three slams to
> >break Sampras' 14-slam record. =A0That will be a lot easier than
> >breaking Agassi's record of winning all four on three different
> >surfaces and the Olympic Gold. Federer should focus on what is natural
> >for him without giving up on the French. You just never know :)
>
> Actually, I think Fed has his best chance of winning the French this
> year that he has ever had as there are more guys who can take Rafa
> than in the past four FO's.
>
> I think Rafa will "fall before the final" and Fed will then win it.
>
> Remember, you heard it here first.-


Lay off the crack pipe! Fed won't even reach the FO final this year!


  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 20:05:38
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
Arancione@selin.com wrote:
> On Jan 3, 7:50 am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:00:16 -0800 (PST), Fan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 3, 4:57 am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>>>>> "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>>>>> Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>>>> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
>>>> unequivocal GOAT with the record number of slams on the record number
>>>> of surfaces !
>>> It would take a miracle for Federer to win the French. He has a much
>>> better chance of winning at least two of the other three slams to
>>> break Sampras' 14-slam record. That will be a lot easier than
>>> breaking Agassi's record of winning all four on three different
>>> surfaces and the Olympic Gold. Federer should focus on what is natural
>>> for him without giving up on the French. You just never know :)
>> Actually, I think Fed has his best chance of winning the French this
>> year that he has ever had as there are more guys who can take Rafa
>> than in the past four FO's.
>>
>> I think Rafa will "fall before the final" and Fed will then win it.
>>
>> Remember, you heard it here first.-
>
>
> Lay off the crack pipe! Fed won't even reach the FO final this year!

Yes, he will be beaten by Djokovic, Delpo, Simon, Murray, Bellucci or Moya!
Outside bets for Almagro, Monfils, Ferrero, Nalby, Volandri, Gonzo,
Davydenko, Nishikori...and Roddick!

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 08:48:40
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...

>
> It would take a miracle for Federer to win the French. He has a much
> better chance of winning at least two of the other three slams to
> break Sampras' 14-slam record. =A0That will be a lot easier than
> breaking Agassi's record of winning all four on three different
> surfaces and the Olympic Gold. Federer should focus on what is natural
> for him without giving up on the French. You just never know :)

Federina will win 1 slam or no slams at all in 2009. He is in
decline.
Think Sampras in the early 2000s.


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 08:46:54
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...

> He sounds like an old dude. Not good.


He IS old compared with Rafa, Murray and Nole!


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 05:00:24
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 3, 1:50=A0pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:00:16 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
>
>
>
>
> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 3, 4:57=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >> >"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com=
...
> >> >>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>
> >> >Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>
> >> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
> >> unequivocal GOAT =A0with the record number of slams on the record numb=
er
> >> of surfaces !
>
> >It would take a miracle for Federer to win the French. He has a much
> >better chance of winning at least two of the other three slams to
> >break Sampras' 14-slam record. =A0That will be a lot easier than
> >breaking Agassi's record of winning all four on three different
> >surfaces and the Olympic Gold. Federer should focus on what is natural
> >for him without giving up on the French. You just never know :)
>
> Actually, I think Fed has his best chance of winning the French this
> year that he has ever had as there are more guys who can take Rafa
> than in the past four FO's.
>
> I think Rafa will "fall before the final" and Fed will then win it.
>
> Remember, you heard it here first.

I wrote it down!


  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 19:57:04
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
Fan wrote:
> On Jan 3, 1:50 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:00:16 -0800 (PST), Fan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 3, 4:57 am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>>>>> "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>>>>> Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>>>> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
>>>> unequivocal GOAT with the record number of slams on the record number
>>>> of surfaces !
>>> It would take a miracle for Federer to win the French. He has a much
>>> better chance of winning at least two of the other three slams to
>>> break Sampras' 14-slam record. That will be a lot easier than
>>> breaking Agassi's record of winning all four on three different
>>> surfaces and the Olympic Gold. Federer should focus on what is natural
>>> for him without giving up on the French. You just never know :)
>> Actually, I think Fed has his best chance of winning the French this
>> year that he has ever had as there are more guys who can take Rafa
>> than in the past four FO's.
>>
>> I think Rafa will "fall before the final" and Fed will then win it.
>>
>> Remember, you heard it here first.
>
> I wrote it down!

Remember this quote after Sunday's final then.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 13:21:18
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 05:00:24 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 3, 1:50 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:00:16 -0800 (PST), Fan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 3, 4:57 am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> >> >"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>>
>> >> >Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>>
>> >> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
>> >> unequivocal GOAT  with the record number of slams on the record number
>> >> of surfaces !
>>
>> >It would take a miracle for Federer to win the French. He has a much
>> >better chance of winning at least two of the other three slams to
>> >break Sampras' 14-slam record.  That will be a lot easier than
>> >breaking Agassi's record of winning all four on three different
>> >surfaces and the Olympic Gold. Federer should focus on what is natural
>> >for him without giving up on the French. You just never know :)
>>
>> Actually, I think Fed has his best chance of winning the French this
>> year that he has ever had as there are more guys who can take Rafa
>> than in the past four FO's.
>>
>> I think Rafa will "fall before the final" and Fed will then win it.
>>
>> Remember, you heard it here first.
>
>I wrote it down!


Good !


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 04:14:56
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 3, 6:43=A0am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com > wrote:
> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ndotl4hrr23p31pv5t98pp2fvn48mti51o@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>
> >>"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com..=
.
> >>>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>
> >>Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>
> > Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
> > unequivocal GOAT =A0with the record number of slams on the record numbe=
r
> > of surfaces !
>
> Keep fantasizing Dave, nobody but Nadal will be winning the FO for 4-5
> years...

That's a bold prediction - a friend of mine said a couple of years ago
that Federer would win the next 6 Wimbledons ...



  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 19:54:33
From: TT
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 3, 6:43 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ndotl4hrr23p31pv5t98pp2fvn48mti51o@4ax.com...
>>
>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>>>> "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>>>> Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>>> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
>>> unequivocal GOAT with the record number of slams on the record number
>>> of surfaces !
>> Keep fantasizing Dave, nobody but Nadal will be winning the FO for 4-5
>> years...
>
> That's a bold prediction - a friend of mine said a couple of years ago
> that Federer would win the next 6 Wimbledons ...
>

And you agreed...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 04:02:16
From: Carey
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...


Whisper wrote:
> DavidW wrote:
> > gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-federer-in-
> > abu-dhabi
> >> "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
> >> long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
> >> to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
> >> badly as I was last year."
> >>
> >> Sounds like he's fully embraced the Sampras half-arsed-apart-from-
> >> Slams approach.
> >>
> >> What titles/records was he chasing last year? Does he mean he's not
> >> focused on trying to get the #1 ranking back?
> >
> > The ranking is small potatoes. Surely he sees that. It's great for the present
> > to be able to say you're the best, but it has little legacy value. It's the
> > slam titles that last.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Yes. It's no coincidence nobody remembers Navratilova won 9 Chicago
> titles - well except us tier 1 analysts. Point is those 9 Chicago
> titles add absolutely zero to her legacy.

Really?

Golly-gosh, it's great to get the Straight Scoop from this
Klown in Australia- he's well traveled, now, been to Oklahoma and the
Worlds' Fair twice... :)


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 02:00:16
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 3, 4:57=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
> >>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>
> >Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>
> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
> unequivocal GOAT =A0with the record number of slams on the record number
> of surfaces !

It would take a miracle for Federer to win the French. He has a much
better chance of winning at least two of the other three slams to
break Sampras' 14-slam record. That will be a lot easier than
breaking Agassi's record of winning all four on three different
surfaces and the Olympic Gold. Federer should focus on what is natural
for him without giving up on the French. You just never know :)


  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 12:50:12
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:00:16 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 3, 4:57 am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> >"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>> >>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>>
>> >Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>>
>> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
>> unequivocal GOAT  with the record number of slams on the record number
>> of surfaces !
>
>It would take a miracle for Federer to win the French. He has a much
>better chance of winning at least two of the other three slams to
>break Sampras' 14-slam record. That will be a lot easier than
>breaking Agassi's record of winning all four on three different
>surfaces and the Olympic Gold. Federer should focus on what is natural
>for him without giving up on the French. You just never know :)


Actually, I think Fed has his best chance of winning the French this
year that he has ever had as there are more guys who can take Rafa
than in the past four FO's.

I think Rafa will "fall before the final" and Fed will then win it.

Remember, you heard it here first.


   
Date: 04 Jan 2009 05:01:05
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:00:16 -0800 (PST), Fan
> <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 3, 4:57 am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>>>> "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>>>> Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>>> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
>>> unequivocal GOAT with the record number of slams on the record number
>>> of surfaces !
>> It would take a miracle for Federer to win the French. He has a much
>> better chance of winning at least two of the other three slams to
>> break Sampras' 14-slam record. That will be a lot easier than
>> breaking Agassi's record of winning all four on three different
>> surfaces and the Olympic Gold. Federer should focus on what is natural
>> for him without giving up on the French. You just never know :)
>
>
> Actually, I think Fed has his best chance of winning the French this
> year that he has ever had as there are more guys who can take Rafa
> than in the past four FO's.
>
> I think Rafa will "fall before the final" and Fed will then win it.
>
> Remember, you heard it here first.



Pull the other one it plays Jingle Bells.



 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 19:37:08
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-federer-in-
abu-dhabi
>
> "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
> long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
> to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
> badly as I was last year."
>
> Sounds like he's fully embraced the Sampras half-arsed-apart-from-
> Slams approach.
>
> What titles/records was he chasing last year? Does he mean he's not
> focused on trying to get the #1 ranking back?

The ranking is small potatoes. Surely he sees that. It's great for the present
to be able to say you're the best, but it has little legacy value. It's the
slam titles that last.





  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 13:26:50
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
In article <ZsF7l.65382$H11.47358@newsfe09.iad >, no@email.provided
(DavidW) wrote:

>
> The ranking is small potatoes. Surely he sees that. It's great for
> the present
> to be able to say you're the best, but it has little legacy value.
> It's the
> slam titles that last.

The #1 ranking is *not* small potatoes. All the players want to be #1.

wg


   
Date: 04 Jan 2009 08:00:27
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article <ZsF7l.65382$H11.47358@newsfe09.iad>, no@email.provided
> (DavidW) wrote:
>
>>
>> The ranking is small potatoes. Surely he sees that. It's great for
>> the present
>> to be able to say you're the best, but it has little legacy value.
>> It's the
>> slam titles that last.
>
> The #1 ranking is *not* small potatoes.

Relative to 13 (or 14) slam titles it is. That's all I meant.





   
Date: 03 Jan 2009 22:34:07
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:26:50 -0600, wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:

>In article <ZsF7l.65382$H11.47358@newsfe09.iad>, no@email.provided
>(DavidW) wrote:
>
>>
>> The ranking is small potatoes. Surely he sees that. It's great for
>> the present
>> to be able to say you're the best, but it has little legacy value.
>> It's the
>> slam titles that last.
>
>The #1 ranking is *not* small potatoes. All the players want to be #1.

Not that much, if they have already been there for 4,5 years.



    
Date: 04 Jan 2009 22:36:10
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:26:50 -0600, wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>
>> In article <ZsF7l.65382$H11.47358@newsfe09.iad>, no@email.provided
>> (DavidW) wrote:
>>
>>> The ranking is small potatoes. Surely he sees that. It's great for
>>> the present
>>> to be able to say you're the best, but it has little legacy value.
>>> It's the
>>> slam titles that last.
>> The #1 ranking is *not* small potatoes. All the players want to be #1.
>
> Not that much, if they have already been there for 4,5 years.
>


Yes, unless he has a good chance of breaking all time No.1 records,
which looks like too much work at this point.



  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 21:22:56
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
DavidW wrote:
> gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-federer-in-
> abu-dhabi
>> "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
>> long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
>> to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
>> badly as I was last year."
>>
>> Sounds like he's fully embraced the Sampras half-arsed-apart-from-
>> Slams approach.
>>
>> What titles/records was he chasing last year? Does he mean he's not
>> focused on trying to get the #1 ranking back?
>
> The ranking is small potatoes. Surely he sees that. It's great for the present
> to be able to say you're the best, but it has little legacy value. It's the
> slam titles that last.
>
>
>


Yes. It's no coincidence nobody remembers Navratilova won 9 Chicago
titles - well except us tier 1 analysts. Point is those 9 Chicago
titles add absolutely zero to her legacy.



   
Date: 03 Jan 2009 13:26:51
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
In article <495f3c86$0$22089$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au >,
beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:

>
> Yes. It's no coincidence nobody remembers Navratilova won 9
> Chicago titles - well except us tier 1 analysts. Point is those 9
> Chicago titles add absolutely zero to her legacy.
>

Why are you comparing the number of titles she won in Chicago with the *#1
ranking* (which, btw, it was *12* Chicago titles out of her 167 singles
titles)?

wg



 
Date: 02 Jan 2009 23:05:38
From: Carey
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...


Stapler wrote:
> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:ndotl4hrr23p31pv5t98pp2fvn48mti51o@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d@d.com> wrote:
> >
> >>"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
> >>>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
> >>
> >>
> >>Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
> >
> >
> > Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
> > unequivocal GOAT with the record number of slams on the record number
> > of surfaces !
>
>
> Keep fantasizing Dave, nobody but Nadal will be winning the FO for 4-5
> years...

Good to have you on the record for that. If only we knew
whose sockpuppet you are exactly... so familiar, yet so
forgettable-


 
Date: 02 Jan 2009 22:17:05
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 2, 6:48=A0pm, wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article
> <287b834d-7657-461c-b3f1-09dfa5722...@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> gregor...@hotmail.com () wrote:
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-
> > federer-in-abu-dhabi
>
> > "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
> > long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
> > to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
> > badly as I was last year."
>
> > Sounds like he's fully embraced the Sampras half-arsed-apart-from-
> > Slams approach.
>
> > What titles/records was he chasing last year? Does he mean he's not
> > focused on trying to get the #1 ranking back?
>
> Dunno, but it's better for him if he doesn't focus too much on chasing th=
e
> ranking - you can make yourself nuts that way.
>
> wg

True. At the same time, he doesn't want to drift too far into the
opposite direction and become apathetic.


  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 13:26:49
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
In article
<9576f321-c256-4be2-8b64-e6434c10aa8a@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com >,
andrew.reys@gmail.com () wrote:

>
> True. At the same time, he doesn't want to drift too far into the
> opposite direction and become apathetic.

I doubt there's any danger of that. I read his quote to mean that maybe
last year he got a little too conscious of things like six Wimbledons in a
row - 14 Slams - etc. The historical pressure is really intense on him
now, and he's smart if he can figure out how to wriggle out from under it
and just play.

wg


 
Date: 02 Jan 2009 20:48:25
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
In article
<287b834d-7657-461c-b3f1-09dfa5722362@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com >,
gregorawe@hotmail.com () wrote:

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-
> federer-in-abu-dhabi
>
> "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
> long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
> to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
> badly as I was last year."
>
> Sounds like he's fully embraced the Sampras half-arsed-apart-from-
> Slams approach.
>
> What titles/records was he chasing last year? Does he mean he's not
> focused on trying to get the #1 ranking back?
>

Dunno, but it's better for him if he doesn't focus too much on chasing the
ranking - you can make yourself nuts that way.

wg


 
Date: 03 Jan 2009 02:33:22
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...

On 2-Jan-2009, gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-federer-in-abu-dhabi
>
> "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
> long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
> to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
> badly as I was last year."
>
> Sounds like he's fully embraced the Sampras half-arsed-apart-from-
> Slams approach.
>
> What titles/records was he chasing last year? Does he mean he's not
> focused on trying to get the #1 ranking back?

Hmm, I don't think he has fully embraced that. I think what he is saying is
that he cannot beat himself up for losing, he probably got too used to
winning all the time and needs to readjust his mind. Surely he knows he
will not be able to dominate the field forever...

I believe the title in question is the FO.


  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 08:47:57
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
In article <98A7l.65326$H11.8647@newsfe09.iad >, jdeluise@gmail.com
(jdeluise) wrote:

>
> I believe the title in question is the FO.

Probably also Wimbledon - trying to get that sixth consecutive title,
knowing it was his only chance to do it.

wg


   
Date: 03 Jan 2009 10:34:27
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 4, 12:27=A0am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 3, 6:25=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 4, 12:18=A0am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 3, 3:39=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 3, 8:47=A0pm, wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > > > In article <98A7l.65326$H11.8...@newsfe09.iad>, jdelu...@gmail.co=
m
>
> > > > > (jdeluise) wrote:
>
> > > > > > I believe the title in question is the FO.
>
> > > > > Probably also Wimbledon - trying to get that sixth consecutive ti=
tle,
> > > > > knowing it was his only chance to do it.
>
> > > > > wg
>
> > > > The loss at Wimbledon certainly hurt him the most. Federer worships
> > > > that trophy.
>
> > > Why's that? Surely it's not more important than losing the AO title
> > > which he did earlier that year?
>
> > For argument's sake, let's assume Federer loves all 4 slams equally.
> > Even so, Wimbledon final loss would have been very painful for him
> > because he reached the final and lost narrowly in a long 5-setter. In
> > the AO, he didn't even go that close to the trophy.
>
> > But we already know Federer loves Wimbledon more than anything else,
> > partly because his childhood heroes like Becker, Edberg and later
> > Sampras did well here, partly because this was the first slam he won,
> > partly because he has bought into the most prestigious slam tagline,
> > etc. So it must have hurt him that much more.
>
> But surely you would have found them equally painful defeats since
> both slams are equally prestigious?

No, what would hurt more: I don't even reach the final of a slam and
head back home to sleep, or I fail to win the trophy by a few
tantalizing points? Obviously the latter. The latter would give me
nightmares. I would keep thinking for days how it was a matter of few
points here and there.


   
Date: 03 Jan 2009 10:27:49
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 3, 6:25=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 4, 12:18=A0am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 3, 3:39=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 3, 8:47=A0pm, wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > > In article <98A7l.65326$H11.8...@newsfe09.iad>, jdelu...@gmail.com
>
> > > > (jdeluise) wrote:
>
> > > > > I believe the title in question is the FO.
>
> > > > Probably also Wimbledon - trying to get that sixth consecutive titl=
e,
> > > > knowing it was his only chance to do it.
>
> > > > wg
>
> > > The loss at Wimbledon certainly hurt him the most. Federer worships
> > > that trophy.
>
> > Why's that? Surely it's not more important than losing the AO title
> > which he did earlier that year?
>
> For argument's sake, let's assume Federer loves all 4 slams equally.
> Even so, Wimbledon final loss would have been very painful for him
> because he reached the final and lost narrowly in a long 5-setter. In
> the AO, he didn't even go that close to the trophy.
>
> But we already know Federer loves Wimbledon more than anything else,
> partly because his childhood heroes like Becker, Edberg and later
> Sampras did well here, partly because this was the first slam he won,
> partly because he has bought into the most prestigious slam tagline,
> etc. So it must have hurt him that much more.

But surely you would have found them equally painful defeats since
both slams are equally prestigious?



   
Date: 03 Jan 2009 10:25:13
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 4, 12:18=A0am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 3, 3:39=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 3, 8:47=A0pm, wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > In article <98A7l.65326$H11.8...@newsfe09.iad>, jdelu...@gmail.com
>
> > > (jdeluise) wrote:
>
> > > > I believe the title in question is the FO.
>
> > > Probably also Wimbledon - trying to get that sixth consecutive title,
> > > knowing it was his only chance to do it.
>
> > > wg
>
> > The loss at Wimbledon certainly hurt him the most. Federer worships
> > that trophy.
>
> Why's that? Surely it's not more important than losing the AO title
> which he did earlier that year?

For argument's sake, let's assume Federer loves all 4 slams equally.
Even so, Wimbledon final loss would have been very painful for him
because he reached the final and lost narrowly in a long 5-setter. In
the AO, he didn't even go that close to the trophy.

But we already know Federer loves Wimbledon more than anything else,
partly because his childhood heroes like Becker, Edberg and later
Sampras did well here, partly because this was the first slam he won,
partly because he has bought into the most prestigious slam tagline,
etc. So it must have hurt him that much more.


   
Date: 03 Jan 2009 10:18:17
From:
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 3, 3:39=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 3, 8:47=A0pm, wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>
> > In article <98A7l.65326$H11.8...@newsfe09.iad>, jdelu...@gmail.com
>
> > (jdeluise) wrote:
>
> > > I believe the title in question is the FO.
>
> > Probably also Wimbledon - trying to get that sixth consecutive title,
> > knowing it was his only chance to do it.
>
> > wg
>
> The loss at Wimbledon certainly hurt him the most. Federer worships
> that trophy.

Why's that? Surely it's not more important than losing the AO title
which he did earlier that year?



   
Date: 03 Jan 2009 07:39:08
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 3, 8:47=A0pm, wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article <98A7l.65326$H11.8...@newsfe09.iad>, jdelu...@gmail.com
>
> (jdeluise) wrote:
>
> > I believe the title in question is the FO.
>
> Probably also Wimbledon - trying to get that sixth consecutive title,
> knowing it was his only chance to do it.
>
> wg

The loss at Wimbledon certainly hurt him the most. Federer worships
that trophy.


 
Date: 02 Jan 2009 17:34:57
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Jan 3, 6:59=A0am, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jan/02/andy-murray-beats-roger-f...
>
> "I have realised that I will win some and lose some," he said. "As
> long as I enjoy the game, I don't mind the losses. But I surely want
> to win the big games. I am not going to chase titles or records as
> badly as I was last year."
>
> Sounds like he's fully embraced the Sampras half-arsed-apart-from-
> Slams approach.
>
> What titles/records was he chasing last year? Does he mean he's not
> focused on trying to get the #1 ranking back?

He sounds like an old dude. Not good.


  
Date: 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24
From: Stapler
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.


Reality bites for Fedfuckers.



   
Date: 03 Jan 2009 03:57:30
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d@d.com > wrote:

>"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>
>
>Reality bites for Fedfuckers.


Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
unequivocal GOAT with the record number of slams on the record number
of surfaces !


    
Date: 03 Jan 2009 11:37:37
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote in message
news:ndotl4hrr23p31pv5t98pp2fvn48mti51o@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d@d.com> wrote:
>
>>"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>>
>>
>>Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>
>
> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
> unequivocal GOAT with the record number of slams on the record number
> of surfaces !

that not good enough as of Jan 1st 2009.




    
Date: 03 Jan 2009 20:56:46
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d@d.com> wrote:
>
>> "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>> He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>>
>> Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>
>
> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
> unequivocal GOAT with the record number of slams on the record number
> of surfaces !


You already think Borg is goat so unfortunately have no credibility.

That's why it's important to think carefully before hitching your wagon
to cockamamy ideas.




    
Date: 03 Jan 2009 06:43:46
From: Stapler
Subject: Re: Federer's philosophy after today's match ...
"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote in message
news:ndotl4hrr23p31pv5t98pp2fvn48mti51o@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:24 GMT, "Stapler" <d@d.com> wrote:
>
>>"arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:aa32539f-b695-4242-aaaf-5dd857507ca3@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>>>He sounds like an old dude. Not good.
>>
>>
>>Reality bites for Fedfuckers.
>
>
> Reality is if he wins the FO for either #14 or #15 he is the
> unequivocal GOAT with the record number of slams on the record number
> of surfaces !


Keep fantasizing Dave, nobody but Nadal will be winning the FO for 4-5
years...