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Date: 02 Feb 2009 12:49:17
From: ew
Subject: Got to finally see the big match...
Ummm...this was a loss fully deserved by Fed and fully earned by Nadal, no
question...

What's with the U-Haul of unconverted break points? Used to be Fed woud take
a chance on returns, make them count at important time (think Wimbledon
2007)...now we are going to bunt them back and hope for an error (one could
wait a lifetime for such an error). Is he trying to move the runner to
second base...or something? Because that's a different sport. Does he want
to be a pinch hitter? I do belive Serena coud have had more aces and first
serves over a 20-hour match like this. And I'm not kidding about that.

Nadal was solid but beatable, but unfortunately for Fed his serve boarded
the flight home a day early. He should have
put his loopdy doopy topspin backhand on the flight instead, at least for a
Nadal match anyhow. Over a best of 5 that thing has the cumulative effect
of sucking up a lot of needed energy....as noted by his complete physical
and mental collapse in set 5.

My Monday Morning Quarterback coaching tips:

1) Drop your ego and get a real coach who knows the intricacies your game
(not a high profile personality who hangs around when he feels like it). 51%
First serve is a technical problem.
2) Drop your ego and admit Nadal's game (for now) is as big as yours and
realize you need to "redline" your game at strategic moments in a match to
beat him (unless he's playing poorly). You can watch videos of Sampras to
help you out here.
3) Slugging it out from the baseline with Nadal is a mug's game on any
surface, not just clay. You can't do it and nobody else can over 5.
Nadal's level will drop fairly soon because that style of play is
unsustainable for long...but you don't have a year or two to wait. Time is
not on your side.
5)Clam up at press conferences. No more comments about other players.
Strictly business.
6)Keeping with the previous baseball theme, I will mention a movie quote
(though I'm sure it's been mentioned already).

JIMMY DUGAN(Tom Hanks): "Are you crying? ARE YOU CRYING? There's no crying!
THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!"





 
Date: 03 Feb 2009 02:45:09
From:
Subject: Re: Got to finally see the big match...
On Feb 3, 1:11=A0am, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On Feb 2, 11:51 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
> > andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Feb 2, 9:49 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >> Ummm...this was a loss fully deserved by Fed and fully earned by Nad=
al, no
> > >> question...
>
> > > Not how I would put it - I thought Federer lost this match, not that
> > > Nadal won it.
>
> > Federer is useless. The moral final was Nadal vs. Verdasco
>
> Well, I'll tell you what - Verdasco played with determination and
> resolve. Maybe Federer did, too (hard to imagine that he didn't), but
> he faltered at critical moments - whereas Verdasco did not (except for
> that last double-fault). =A0This is worse than it sounds since Federer
> is a better player than Verdasco, and the latter really has to
> maintain an impeccable level to do as well as he did against Nadal.

Verdasco choked at the end - he was 0-30 on Nadal's serve at 4-4 and
made two return errors.

In the last game he double-faulted twice to lose.

No-one gives him a hard time about it, since he wasn't expected to win
and he played a great match before that, but it was still a choke.



  
Date: 03 Feb 2009 11:47:43
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Got to finally see the big match...
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 3, 1:11 am, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Feb 2, 11:51 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>
>>> andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Feb 2, 9:49 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Ummm...this was a loss fully deserved by Fed and fully earned by
>>>>> Nadal, no question...
>>
>>>> Not how I would put it - I thought Federer lost this match, not
>>>> that Nadal won it.
>>
>>> Federer is useless. The moral final was Nadal vs. Verdasco
>>
>> Well, I'll tell you what - Verdasco played with determination and
>> resolve. Maybe Federer did, too (hard to imagine that he didn't), but
>> he faltered at critical moments - whereas Verdasco did not (except
>> for that last double-fault). This is worse than it sounds since
>> Federer is a better player than Verdasco, and the latter really has
>> to maintain an impeccable level to do as well as he did against
>> Nadal.
>
> Verdasco choked at the end - he was 0-30 on Nadal's serve at 4-4 and
> made two return errors.
>
> In the last game he double-faulted twice to lose.
>
> No-one gives him a hard time about it, since he wasn't expected to win
> and he played a great match before that, but it was still a choke.


not a massive like federer's though. :)

I still can't believe those 6 BP in the third set Nadal saved and how he
went to win the tiebreak.


Maybe the best "momentum" I've ever seen.




 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 19:34:27
From: TennisGuy
Subject: Re: Got to finally see the big match...
On Feb 2, 12:49=A0pm, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com > wrote:

> 5)Clam up at press conferences. =A0No more comments about other players.
> Strictly business.


Good comments overall.
Number five reminded me of Serena's comment that she made as she was
coming on the court before the final. I don't remember what she said
exactly to the interviewer, but something to the effect of "Yeah,
whatever. Now get out of my face!"
All the time smiling. :)



 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 17:19:58
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Got to finally see the big match...
On Feb 2, 5:14 pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 2, 7:11 pm, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Well, I'll tell you what - Verdasco played with determination and
> > resolve. Maybe Federer did, too (hard to imagine that he didn't), but
> > he faltered at critical moments - whereas Verdasco did not (except for
> > that last double-fault). This is worse than it sounds since Federer
> > is a better player than Verdasco, and the latter really has to
> > maintain an impeccable level to do as well as he did against Nadal.
>
> Nadal played a lot better against Verdasco as well. When he was
> fresher...

You think so? I disagree. TO be honest, I also don't think he was THAT
affected by the "short" rest following his 5-setter. It was the first
difficult match he'd had all tournament, and in any case Nadal is the
type of athlete that generally seems to shrug off physical fatigue -
potentially at the expense of problems down the line. He looked like
he was starting to tire around the 3rd set of the final, but I think
credit for that should mainly go to Federer, who was doing an
admirable job of running Nadal around from the baseline.


 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 17:14:01
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Got to finally see the big match...
On Feb 2, 7:11=A0pm, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> Well, I'll tell you what - Verdasco played with determination and
> resolve. Maybe Federer did, too (hard to imagine that he didn't), but
> he faltered at critical moments - whereas Verdasco did not (except for
> that last double-fault). =A0This is worse than it sounds since Federer
> is a better player than Verdasco, and the latter really has to
> maintain an impeccable level to do as well as he did against Nadal.

Nadal played a lot better against Verdasco as well. When he was
fresher...


 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 17:11:51
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Got to finally see the big match...
On Feb 2, 11:51 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 9:49 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> Ummm...this was a loss fully deserved by Fed and fully earned by Nadal, no
> >> question...
>
> > Not how I would put it - I thought Federer lost this match, not that
> > Nadal won it.
>
> Federer is useless. The moral final was Nadal vs. Verdasco

Well, I'll tell you what - Verdasco played with determination and
resolve. Maybe Federer did, too (hard to imagine that he didn't), but
he faltered at critical moments - whereas Verdasco did not (except for
that last double-fault). This is worse than it sounds since Federer
is a better player than Verdasco, and the latter really has to
maintain an impeccable level to do as well as he did against Nadal.



 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 10:54:41
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Got to finally see the big match...
On Feb 2, 9:49 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com > wrote:
> Ummm...this was a loss fully deserved by Fed and fully earned by Nadal, no
> question...

Not how I would put it - I thought Federer lost this match, not that
Nadal won it.

> 1) Drop your ego and get a real coach who knows the intricacies your game
> (not a high profile personality who hangs around when he feels like it). 51%
> First serve is a technical problem.

Really? Why is it that so many of Federer's woes - whether serving or
UE or being unable to convert breakpoints - all seem to come mainly
against Nadal? Is it REALLY a technically issue, or a mental one? He
needs a coach to help with strategy, not technique.


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 21:51:26
From: TT
Subject: Re: Got to finally see the big match...
andrew.reys@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 9:49 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Ummm...this was a loss fully deserved by Fed and fully earned by Nadal, no
>> question...
>
> Not how I would put it - I thought Federer lost this match, not that
> Nadal won it.
>

Federer is useless. The moral final was Nadal vs. Verdasco

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 10:18:19
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Got to finally see the big match...
On Feb 2, 12:49=A0pm, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com > wrote:
> Ummm...this was a loss fully deserved by Fed and fully earned by Nadal, n=
o
> question...
>
> What's with the U-Haul of unconverted break points? Used to be Fed woud t=
ake
> a chance on returns, make them count at important time (think Wimbledon
> 2007)...now we are going to bunt them back and hope for an error (one cou=
ld
> wait a lifetime for such an error). =A0Is he trying to move the runner to
> second base...or something? Because that's a different sport. =A0Does he =
want
> to be a pinch hitter? =A0I do belive Serena coud have had more aces and f=
irst
> serves over a 20-hour match like this. =A0And I'm not kidding about that.
>
> Nadal was solid but beatable, but unfortunately for Fed his serve boarded
> the flight home a day early. =A0He should have
> put his loopdy doopy topspin backhand on the flight instead, at least for=
a
> Nadal match anyhow. =A0Over a best of 5 that thing has the cumulative eff=
ect
> of sucking up a lot of needed energy....as noted by his complete physical
> and mental collapse in set 5.
>
> My Monday Morning Quarterback coaching tips:
>
> 1) Drop your ego and get a real coach who knows =A0the intricacies your g=
ame
> (not a high profile personality who hangs around when he feels like it). =
51%
> First serve is a technical problem.
> 2) Drop your ego and admit Nadal's game (for now) is as big as yours and
> realize you need to "redline" your game at strategic moments in a match t=
o
> beat him (unless he's playing poorly). =A0You can watch videos of Sampras=
to
> help you out here.
> 3) Slugging it out from the baseline with Nadal is a mug's game on any
> surface, not just clay. =A0You can't do it and nobody else can over 5.
> Nadal's level will drop fairly soon because that style of play is
> unsustainable for long...but you don't have a year or two to wait. =A0Tim=
e is
> not on your side.
> 5)Clam up at press conferences. =A0No more comments about other players.
> Strictly business.
> 6)Keeping with the previous baseball theme, I will mention a movie quote
> (though I'm sure it's been mentioned already).
>
> JIMMY DUGAN(Tom Hanks): =A0"Are you crying? ARE YOU CRYING? There's no cr=
ying!
> THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!"

Nice post. I agree with you about the break points, he never tried to
force it to go his way.
At least in the fifth set of Wimbledon, when he has a break point
which could have given him the title, Nadal hit a good serve, Federer
hit an aggressive return where Nadal handled well. When I watch this
point there is nothing to blame Federer for not doing. But in this AO
match, he was just waiting for things to happen and this is actually
when Nadal's focus gets better.

I don't think he denies any more that Nadal's game is better than his
now specially after Wimbledon.

Who can he hire as a coach? The coach has to add value otherwise it
becomes a negative things.

Regarding baseline rallies, I think he did well there, and he can't go
for winner very fast otherwise he will end up with an error. The court
was obviously slow, something that doesn't help hitting winners.

Media keeps asking him questions about other players, and he has to
answer.