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Date: 09 Feb 2009 04:05:00
From: Quincy
Subject: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do you
Discuss!




 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 23:13:42
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 10, 8:17=A0pm, Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 6:43=A0pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 9 Feb., 18:22, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 9, 4:36 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> > > >> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > >> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > >> > > > Discuss!
>
> > > >> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> > > >> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> > > >> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison ti=
me for
> > > >> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> > > >> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> > > >> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>
> > > > Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many=
of
> > > > your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see tha=
t
> > > > differently.
>
> > > Sure you would - and you'd still be wrong.
>
> > > >> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
> > > > Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>
> > > You do see that you are effectively supporting legislation that actua=
lly makes
> > > you punishable for what you think?
>
> > You are absolutely right. This is the big problem I have with this
> > issue. I can say somebody is an idiot if he tries to question
> > scientific facts, but actually I don't have the right to punish him
> > for his opinion and statements.
>
> > Germany is a free country. You can call the cancellor an ugly woman
> > without any problems, but you could never say "the holocaust has been
> > exaggerated by the US and Israel and they have/had very good reason
> > for this".
>
> > If you say something like this, you commit a felony! This is a quite
> > strange to me.
>
> If you call someone an asshole, you commit a felony, too.
> Same if you say you neighbour is a child molester without being able
> to prove it.

Gonzales can correct me on this but in the US, it would not be a
felony to call someone any of those things. Calling someone an asshole
would not even be actionable but if someone called you a child
molester, you could sue for defamation of character. The accuser would
have to prove you a child molester and failing to do so, you could get
monetary damages.

On the Internet, people call each other all kinds of names and unless
it is one sided and against a person using his/her real name, there is
not much anyone can do other than returning the favor. Jews like to
call anyone they dislike anti-Semite. That too gets by on the Internet
but when the Jewish ADL called a Colorado couple anti-Semites, it cost
them over $10 million in damages. The lesson is that it is very
important where and how you say what you say :)


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 11:17:14
From: Calimero
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 9, 6:43=A0pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de > wrote:
> On 9 Feb., 18:22, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > On Feb 9, 4:36 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> > >> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > >> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > Discuss!
>
> > >> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> > >> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> > >> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time=
for
> > >> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> > >> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> > >> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>
> > > Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many o=
f
> > > your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
> > > differently.
>
> > Sure you would - and you'd still be wrong.
>
> > >> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
> > > Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>
> > You do see that you are effectively supporting legislation that actuall=
y makes
> > you punishable for what you think?
>
> You are absolutely right. This is the big problem I have with this
> issue. I can say somebody is an idiot if he tries to question
> scientific facts, but actually I don't have the right to punish him
> for his opinion and statements.
>
> Germany is a free country. You can call the cancellor an ugly woman
> without any problems, but you could never say "the holocaust has been
> exaggerated by the US and Israel and they have/had very good reason
> for this".
>
> If you say something like this, you commit a felony! This is a quite
> strange to me.

If you call someone an asshole, you commit a felony, too.
Same if you say you neighbour is a child molester without being able
to prove it.

Max


  
Date: 11 Feb 2009 00:11:04
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do ?you think this is justice?

>
>If you call someone an asshole, you commit a felony, too.

Except in Whisper's case, it's called a public service.


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 11:14:26
From: Calimero
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 9, 6:22=A0pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com > wrote:
> Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 4:36=A0pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> >> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Discuss!
>
> >> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> >> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> >> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time f=
or
> >> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> >> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> >> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>
> > Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many of
> > your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
> > differently.
>
> Sure you would - and you'd still be wrong.
>
> >> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
> > Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>
> You do see that you are effectively supporting legislation that actually =
makes
> you punishable for what you think?


No, for what you say.
Nothing new.
Slander is punishable, too.

Max


  
Date: 10 Feb 2009 16:15:05
From: Javier Gonzalez
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do ??you think this is justice?
Calimero <calimero377@gmx.de > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 6:22 pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
>> Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> > On Feb 9, 4:36 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>> >> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > Discuss!
>>
>> >> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
>> >> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>>
>> >> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
>> >> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>>
>> >> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
>> >> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>>
>> > Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many of
>> > your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
>> > differently.
>>
>> Sure you would - and you'd still be wrong.
>>
>> >> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>>
>> > Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>>
>> You do see that you are effectively supporting legislation that actually makes
>> you punishable for what you think?
>
>
> No, for what you say.
> Nothing new.
> Slander is punishable, too.

You guys put people who deny the moon landing in jail, too?


   
Date: 11 Feb 2009 00:04:51
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do ??you think this is justice?
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:15:05 -0300, Javier Gonzalez
<ja.gon.zal@gmmmmail.com > wrote:

>Calimero <calimero377@gmx.de> wrote:
>> On Feb 9, 6:22 pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
>>> Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> > On Feb 9, 4:36 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>>> >> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > > Discuss!
>>>
>>> >> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
>>> >> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>>>
>>> >> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
>>> >> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>>>
>>> >> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
>>> >> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>>>
>>> > Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many of
>>> > your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
>>> > differently.
>>>
>>> Sure you would - and you'd still be wrong.
>>>
>>> >> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>>>
>>> > Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>>>
>>> You do see that you are effectively supporting legislation that actually makes
>>> you punishable for what you think?
>>
>>
>> No, for what you say.
>> Nothing new.
>> Slander is punishable, too.
>
>You guys put people who deny the moon landing in jail, too?


what moon landing ?


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 00:20:11
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 9, 5:50=A0pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com > wrote:
> Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 4:47=A0pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
> >> The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> >> > On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > Discuss!
>
> >> >> > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> >> >> > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> >> >> It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time =
for
> >> >> questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> >> > You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> >> > questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
> >> > Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
> >> Have to agree with this. Being an idiot should not be a crime. Hating =
jews
> >> because they are jews should not be a crime. Attempting to act on said
> >> hate (i.e. bombing sinagogues) should be and rightfully is a crime.
>
> > How about this?
>
> > The problem with holopropaganda is that it is used to justify the
> > murder of Palestinians so that Jews can build settlements on their
> > lands.
>
> It's a stupid justification. IMO "Holocaust awareness" should not be used=
for
> anything other than warning humanity of what monstrosity normal folks are
> capable of in the right (or should I say, wrong) circumnstances.

Maybe it is not so stupid. Zionazis have been able to divert criticism
of Palestinian Genocide and stealing of Palestinian lands with
holopropaganda and they also using to milk generations with new and
improved holopropaganda stories. In most of Europe, you cannot dispute
the most outlandish holopropaganda fabrications without going to
prison. It is not that much better in the US counselor, because in the
US they hound people out of their jobs for opposing their
holopropaganda. They kicked Dr. Finkelstein out of his teaching job...


  
Date: 10 Feb 2009 09:22:27
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do ??you think this is justice?
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:20:11 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 9, 5:50 pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
>> Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Feb 9, 4:47 pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
>> >> The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>> >> > On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > > Discuss!
>>
>> >> >> > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
>> >> >> > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>>
>> >> >> It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
>> >> >> questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>>
>> >> > You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
>> >> > questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>> >> > Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>>
>> >> Have to agree with this. Being an idiot should not be a crime. Hating jews
>> >> because they are jews should not be a crime. Attempting to act on said
>> >> hate (i.e. bombing sinagogues) should be and rightfully is a crime.
>>
>> > How about this?
>>
>> > The problem with holopropaganda is that it is used to justify the
>> > murder of Palestinians so that Jews can build settlements on their
>> > lands.
>>
>> It's a stupid justification. IMO "Holocaust awareness" should not be used for
>> anything other than warning humanity of what monstrosity normal folks are
>> capable of in the right (or should I say, wrong) circumnstances.
>
>Maybe it is not so stupid. Zionazis have been able to divert criticism
>of Palestinian Genocide and stealing of Palestinian lands with
>holopropaganda and they also using to milk generations with new and
>improved holopropaganda stories. In most of Europe, you cannot dispute
>the most outlandish holopropaganda fabrications without going to
>prison. It is not that much better in the US counselor, because in the
>US they hound people out of their jobs for opposing their
>holopropaganda. They kicked Dr. Finkelstein out of his teaching job...


It should also be a crime in Germany to deny the Palestinian Genocide!



 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 18:40:22
From: Superroger
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 10, 1:24=A0am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:53:32 -0800 (PST), Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Feb 9, 4:36=A0pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> >> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Discuss!
>
> >> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> >> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> >> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time f=
or
> >> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> >> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> >> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>
> >Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many of
> >your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
> >differently.
>
> >> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
> >Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>
> >Max
>
> fucking national guilt trip. problem is the mentality behind it is the
> same one as the holocaust itself. don't think. do what you are told.
> right or wrong.
>
> nothings changed.

Something changed! Now the Germans don't kill rich jews in KZs, they
rather put poor celebrities in jungle camps to eat testicles, insects
and other stuff.


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 18:37:20
From: Superroger
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 10, 1:06=A0am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:43:42 -0800 (PST), The Truth <ob...@web.de>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 9 Feb., 18:22, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
> >> Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> > On Feb 9, 4:36 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> >> >> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > > Discuss!
>
> >> >> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> >> >> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> >> >> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison tim=
e for
> >> >> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> >> >> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> >> >> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>
> >> > Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many =
of
> >> > your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
> >> > differently.
>
> >> Sure you would - and you'd still be wrong.
>
> >> >> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
> >> > Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>
> >> You do see that you are effectively supporting legislation that actual=
ly makes
> >> you punishable for what you think?
>
> >You are absolutely right. This is the big problem I have with this
> >issue. I can say somebody is an idiot if he tries to question
> >scientific facts, but actually I don't have the right to punish him
> >for his opinion and statements.
>
> >Germany is a free country. You can call the cancellor an ugly woman
> >without any problems, but you could never say "the holocaust has been
> >exaggerated by the US and Israel and they have/had very good reason
> >for this".
>
> >If you say something like this, you commit a felony! This is a quite
> >strange to me.
>
> they have a serious "guilt" complex and they fear another adolf will
> start making jewish soap again some day.

that's why they need some Supermen.


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 09:43:42
From: The Truth
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On 9 Feb., 18:22, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com > wrote:
> Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 4:36 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> >> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Discuss!
>
> >> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> >> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> >> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
> >> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> >> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> >> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>
> > Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many of
> > your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
> > differently.
>
> Sure you would - and you'd still be wrong.
>
> >> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
> > Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>
> You do see that you are effectively supporting legislation that actually makes
> you punishable for what you think?

You are absolutely right. This is the big problem I have with this
issue. I can say somebody is an idiot if he tries to question
scientific facts, but actually I don't have the right to punish him
for his opinion and statements.

Germany is a free country. You can call the cancellor an ugly woman
without any problems, but you could never say "the holocaust has been
exaggerated by the US and Israel and they have/had very good reason
for this".

If you say something like this, you commit a felony! This is a quite
strange to me.



  
Date: 10 Feb 2009 00:06:30
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do ?you think this is justice?
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:43:42 -0800 (PST), The Truth <ob112@web.de >
wrote:

>On 9 Feb., 18:22, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
>> Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> > On Feb 9, 4:36 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>> >> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > Discuss!
>>
>> >> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
>> >> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>>
>> >> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
>> >> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>>
>> >> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
>> >> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>>
>> > Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many of
>> > your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
>> > differently.
>>
>> Sure you would - and you'd still be wrong.
>>
>> >> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>>
>> > Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>>
>> You do see that you are effectively supporting legislation that actually makes
>> you punishable for what you think?
>
>You are absolutely right. This is the big problem I have with this
>issue. I can say somebody is an idiot if he tries to question
>scientific facts, but actually I don't have the right to punish him
>for his opinion and statements.
>
>Germany is a free country. You can call the cancellor an ugly woman
>without any problems, but you could never say "the holocaust has been
>exaggerated by the US and Israel and they have/had very good reason
>for this".
>
>If you say something like this, you commit a felony! This is a quite
>strange to me.


they have a serious "guilt" complex and they fear another adolf will
start making jewish soap again some day.


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 08:53:32
From: Calimero
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 9, 4:36=A0pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de > wrote:
> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > > Discuss!
>
> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!

Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many of
your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
differently.

> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.

Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.


Max


  
Date: 10 Feb 2009 00:24:47
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do you think this is justice?
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:53:32 -0800 (PST), Calimero <calimero377@gmx.de >
wrote:

>On Feb 9, 4:36 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Discuss!
>>
>> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
>> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>>
>> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
>> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>>
>> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
>> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>
>Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many of
>your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
>differently.
>
>> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
>Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.
>
>
>Max


fucking national guilt trip. problem is the mentality behind it is the
same one as the holocaust itself. don't think. do what you are told.
right or wrong.

nothings changed.


  
Date: 09 Feb 2009 14:22:19
From: Javier Gonzalez
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do ?you think this is justice?
Calimero <calimero377@gmx.de > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 4:36 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Discuss!
>>
>> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
>> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>>
>> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
>> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>>
>> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
>> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>
> Let me put it this way - if you were a jewish German and many, many of
> your family had been gassed under the Nazi regime you might see that
> differently.

Sure you would - and you'd still be wrong.

>> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
> Definitely not with this.At least not in public in Germany.

You do see that you are effectively supporting legislation that actually makes
you punishable for what you think?


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 08:18:08
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 9, 9:36=A0am, The Truth <ob...@web.de > wrote:
> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > > Discuss!
>
> > > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> > > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> > It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
> > questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.

As I understand it, the dispute is between a bishop and the Vatican.
It is not a German issue...

Rodjk #613


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 08:14:46
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 9, 4:47=A0pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com > wrote:
> The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> > On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> >> > > Discuss!
>
> >> > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> >> > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> >> It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
> >> questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> > You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> > questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
> > Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>
> Have to agree with this. Being an idiot should not be a crime. Hating jew=
s
> because they are jews should not be a crime. Attempting to act on said
> hate (i.e. bombing sinagogues) should be and rightfully is a crime.

How about this?

The problem with holopropaganda is that it is used to justify the
murder of Palestinians so that Jews can build settlements on their
lands.

Dr. Norman Finkelstein speaking at the University of Alberta on
January 22, 2009. His talk dealt with Israel's responsibility in the
situation in Gaza and the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dz7AtO_KGE-I



  
Date: 09 Feb 2009 13:50:36
From: Javier Gonzalez
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do ??you think this is justice?
Fan <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 4:47 pm, Javier Gonzalez <ja.gon....@gmmmmail.com> wrote:
>> The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>> > On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > Discuss!
>>
>> >> > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
>> >> > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>>
>> >> It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
>> >> questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>>
>> > You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
>> > questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
>> > Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.
>>
>> Have to agree with this. Being an idiot should not be a crime. Hating jews
>> because they are jews should not be a crime. Attempting to act on said
>> hate (i.e. bombing sinagogues) should be and rightfully is a crime.
>
> How about this?
>
> The problem with holopropaganda is that it is used to justify the
> murder of Palestinians so that Jews can build settlements on their
> lands.

It's a stupid justification. IMO "Holocaust awareness" should not be used for
anything other than warning humanity of what monstrosity normal folks are
capable of in the right (or should I say, wrong) circumnstances.


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 07:36:49
From: The Truth
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > Discuss!
>
> > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>
> It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
> questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(

You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.


  
Date: 09 Feb 2009 12:47:37
From: Javier Gonzalez
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do ?you think this is justice?
The Truth <ob112@web.de > wrote:
> On 9 Feb., 16:34, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>> > > Discuss!
>>
>> > For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
>> > expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm
>>
>> It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
>> questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(
>
> You are very right on this one. I don't have to like people who a
> questioning the holocaust, but this inquisition can't be right!
> Everyone should have his right on a own opinion, even it is this.

Have to agree with this. Being an idiot should not be a crime. Hating jews
because they are jews should not be a crime. Attempting to act on said
hate (i.e. bombing sinagogues) should be and rightfully is a crime.


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 07:34:28
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 9, 1:12=A0pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 1:05=A0pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > Discuss!
>
> For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm

It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(


  
Date: 11 Feb 2009 12:18:07
From: viper
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do you think this is justice?

"Fan" <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:16d8b3ec-374a-4cef-8c83-f6dfe2b55081@d32g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 1:05 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > Discuss!
>
> For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
> expertise:http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm

It is German justice, in Germany you probably get more prison time for
questioning the holohoax than for murdering someone :-(



No similar law in Japan, they just conveniently misplaced that section of
the
history text


Viper




 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 04:12:02
From: Quincy
Subject: Re: Gunter Parche didn't go to jail after KNIFING Monica Seles. Do
On Feb 9, 1:05=A0pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> Discuss!

For a serious discussion you should first read the psychiatric
expertise:
http://www.monicaseles.de/attentat/gutachten.htm