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Date: 07 Feb 2009 06:20:52
From:
Subject: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
and embarrassed for him. Then I thought about those ridiculous
outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.

I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
barely scraped by. He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. Those ball-less
outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
That purse....OMG. One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so we
didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. Very annoying that
was...

Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
but he has gradually lost me. The crying display at AO was it for Fed
for me. I blew the call on rafa. He is the guy with the balls and
the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
Fed. I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but now
I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...




 
Date: 08 Feb 2009 06:05:24
From:
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 8, 1:18=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
> > about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
> > and embarrassed for him. =A0Then I thought about those ridiculous
> > outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
> > not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.
>
> > I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
> > thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
> > in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
> > and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
> > barely scraped by. =A0He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
> > near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. =A0Those ball-less
> > outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
> > was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
> > costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
> > that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
> > That purse....OMG. =A0One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so w=
e
> > didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. =A0Very annoying that
> > was...
>
> > Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
> > sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
> > would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
> > should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
> > Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
> > where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
> > but he has gradually lost me. =A0The crying display at AO was it for Fe=
d
> > for me. =A0I blew the call on rafa. =A0He is the guy with the balls and
> > the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
> > His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
> > Fed. =A0I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but no=
w
> > I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
> > would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
> > Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...
>
> Even Oz newspapers have turned sour on Fed for trying to steal Rafa's
> limelight by turning on the waterworks. =A0Rafa is seen as a true tennis
> titan & his last 2 matches at AO were testament to extraordinary courage
> which we won't forget in a hurry. =A0Up there with Sampras' heroics when
> he gutsed big 5 setters v Courier at AO (down 2 sets to love & coach
> dying) & the vomitting episode v Corretja at USO.
>
> These examples make guys like Djokovic look like a piker & of no relevanc=
e.


Agree.


 
Date: 08 Feb 2009 17:18:38
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
blanders0604@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
> about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
> and embarrassed for him. Then I thought about those ridiculous
> outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
> not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.
>
> I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
> thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
> in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
> and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
> barely scraped by. He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
> near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. Those ball-less
> outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
> was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
> costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
> that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
> That purse....OMG. One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so we
> didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. Very annoying that
> was...
>
> Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
> sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
> would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
> should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
> Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
> where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
> but he has gradually lost me. The crying display at AO was it for Fed
> for me. I blew the call on rafa. He is the guy with the balls and
> the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
> His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
> Fed. I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but now
> I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
> would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
> Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...


Even Oz newspapers have turned sour on Fed for trying to steal Rafa's
limelight by turning on the waterworks. Rafa is seen as a true tennis
titan & his last 2 matches at AO were testament to extraordinary courage
which we won't forget in a hurry. Up there with Sampras' heroics when
he gutsed big 5 setters v Courier at AO (down 2 sets to love & coach
dying) & the vomitting episode v Corretja at USO.

These examples make guys like Djokovic look like a piker & of no relevance.






 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 20:00:19
From:
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
It was really embarrassing. Everybody looked embarrassed during the
trophy ceremony seeing Fed pulling a Novotna out there. Really
pathetic.....


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 14:55:32
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 2:11=A0pm, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 7, 4:55=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 1:47=A0pm, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 7, 3:39=A0pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 7, 10:37=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.co=
m >
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Have you expressed any regret over your embarrassing prediction t=
hat
> > > > > McCain would sweep all 50 states?
>
> > > > Can't he make a single post without being reminded of that - give t=
he
> > > > guy a break. His post had nothing to do with politics...
>
> > > Thanks. =A0Jesus, some of these guys are boring as batshit..
>
> > Jesus, you're so predictable. Why should Fed express remorse and not
> > you?
>
> Are you just trolling me at this stage or are you really this thick?

Neither,


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 14:11:35
From:
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 4:55=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Feb 7, 1:47=A0pm, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Feb 7, 3:39=A0pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 7, 10:37=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Have you expressed any regret over your embarrassing prediction tha=
t
> > > > McCain would sweep all 50 states?
>
> > > Can't he make a single post without being reminded of that - give the
> > > guy a break. His post had nothing to do with politics...
>
> > Thanks. =A0Jesus, some of these guys are boring as batshit..
>
> Jesus, you're so predictable. Why should Fed express remorse and not
> you?

Are you just trolling me at this stage or are you really this thick?


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 13:58:57
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 3:56=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I don't think it's true to call Federer a completely defensive player
> - less aggressive than before, yes ...

FAR less aggressive than before - anyone who sees his forehand now
will wonder why it was ever considered one of the best forehands in
history. Heck, most of the time his opponent has a bigger and better
forehand than himself these days...


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 13:56:48
From:
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 8:37=A0pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 8:20=A0am, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
> > about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
> > and embarrassed for him. =A0Then I thought about those ridiculous
> > outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
> > not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.
>
> > I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
> > thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
> > in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
> > and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
> > barely scraped by. =A0He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
> > near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. =A0Those ball-less
> > outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
> > was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
> > costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
> > that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
> > That purse....OMG. =A0One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so w=
e
> > didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. =A0Very annoying that
> > was...
>
> > Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
> > sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
> > would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
> > should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
> > Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
> > where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
> > but he has gradually lost me. =A0The crying display at AO was it for Fe=
d
> > for me. =A0I blew the call on rafa. =A0He is the guy with the balls and
> > the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
> > His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
> > Fed. =A0I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but no=
w
> > I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
> > would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
> > Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...
>
> Good post - I noticed the stagnation, make that regression, of Fed's
> game back in 2007. Fed is reaping the rewards for turning into a
> completely defensive player since then. Of course, couple that with
> Nadal improving beyond sight, its clear to see why Nadal is clearly
> the better tennis player. Things don't look good for this rivalry - if
> you can call one player predictably winning all the time rivalry...

I don't think it's true to call Federer a completely defensive player
- less aggressive than before, yes ...



 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 13:55:54
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 1:47=A0pm, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 7, 3:39=A0pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 7, 10:37=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Have you expressed any regret over your embarrassing prediction that
> > > McCain would sweep all 50 states?
>
> > Can't he make a single post without being reminded of that - give the
> > guy a break. His post had nothing to do with politics...
>
> Thanks. =A0Jesus, some of these guys are boring as batshit..

Jesus, you're so predictable. Why should Fed express remorse and not
you?


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 13:50:53
From:
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 4:39=A0pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 6:20 am, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
> > about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
> > and embarrassed for him. =A0Then I thought about those ridiculous
> > outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
> > not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.
>
> > I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
> > thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
> > in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
> > and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
> > barely scraped by. =A0He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
> > near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. =A0Those ball-less
> > outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
> > was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
> > costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
> > that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
> > That purse....OMG. =A0One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so w=
e
> > didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. =A0Very annoying that
> > was...
>
> > Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
> > sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
> > would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
> > should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
> > Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
> > where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
> > but he has gradually lost me. =A0The crying display at AO was it for Fe=
d
> > for me. =A0I blew the call on rafa. =A0He is the guy with the balls and
> > the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
> > His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
> > Fed. =A0I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but no=
w
> > I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
> > would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
> > Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...
>
> What can make you get back on to the bandwagon ? :-). I think he can
> still redeem himself. He's going to play nadal many more times still.- Hi=
de quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It would be possible, but seems unlikely at this point that Fed will
win me back.


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 13:47:49
From:
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 3:39=A0pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 10:37=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Have you expressed any regret over your embarrassing prediction that
> > McCain would sweep all 50 states?
>
> Can't he make a single post without being reminded of that - give the
> guy a break. His post had nothing to do with politics...

Thanks. Jesus, some of these guys are boring as batshit..


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 13:40:58
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 3:39=A0pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> He's going to play nadal many more times still.

Let's hope not - it would be a tragedy if he ends up with a 6-24 head-
to-head...


  
Date: 08 Feb 2009 17:58:22
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
RahimAsif wrote:
> On Feb 7, 3:39 pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> He's going to play nadal many more times still.
>
> Let's hope not - it would be a tragedy if he ends up with a 6-24 head-
> to-head...


Maybe he should quit before the numbers look even worse? They are bad
now (2-5 in slam finals & 2-6 overall in slams), but yes could be a lot
worse I suppose.



 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 13:39:25
From: Shakes
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 6:20 am, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
> about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
> and embarrassed for him. Then I thought about those ridiculous
> outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
> not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.
>
> I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
> thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
> in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
> and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
> barely scraped by. He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
> near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. Those ball-less
> outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
> was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
> costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
> that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
> That purse....OMG. One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so we
> didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. Very annoying that
> was...
>
> Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
> sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
> would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
> should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
> Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
> where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
> but he has gradually lost me. The crying display at AO was it for Fed
> for me. I blew the call on rafa. He is the guy with the balls and
> the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
> His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
> Fed. I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but now
> I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
> would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
> Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...

What can make you get back on to the bandwagon ? :-). I think he can
still redeem himself. He's going to play nadal many more times still.


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 12:50:23
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 8:46=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:

> 3- I always doubted what people say that he has a Nadal complex, I
> have no doubts now. The match was his. But on the other hand, it could
> be true that he had a bad serving day. Still he should blame himself
> for that, this is why a lot of practice is required. Even during the
> warmup before the matches, he hits few serves, and goes to his seat
> quickly while Nadal or other opponents continue to squeeze as many
> serves as they could.


I used to think Fed has a Nadal complex, but now I have serious
doubts. Some of Roddick's fans probably think that he has a Fed
complex - when in reality its just that Fed is the better tennis
player in that rivalry...



 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 12:39:46
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 10:37=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> Have you expressed any regret over your embarrassing prediction that
> McCain would sweep all 50 states?

Can't he make a single post without being reminded of that - give the
guy a break. His post had nothing to do with politics...


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 12:37:01
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 8:20=A0am, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
> about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
> and embarrassed for him. =A0Then I thought about those ridiculous
> outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
> not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.
>
> I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
> thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
> in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
> and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
> barely scraped by. =A0He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
> near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. =A0Those ball-less
> outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
> was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
> costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
> that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
> That purse....OMG. =A0One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so we
> didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. =A0Very annoying that
> was...
>
> Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
> sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
> would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
> should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
> Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
> where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
> but he has gradually lost me. =A0The crying display at AO was it for Fed
> for me. =A0I blew the call on rafa. =A0He is the guy with the balls and
> the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
> His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
> Fed. =A0I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but now
> I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
> would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
> Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...

Good post - I noticed the stagnation, make that regression, of Fed's
game back in 2007. Fed is reaping the rewards for turning into a
completely defensive player since then. Of course, couple that with
Nadal improving beyond sight, its clear to see why Nadal is clearly
the better tennis player. Things don't look good for this rivalry - if
you can call one player predictably winning all the time rivalry...


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 10:35:55
From: undecided
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 11:47=A0am, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 7, 9:46=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > 1- Don't make a big deal about Federer's crying, he cried when he won
> > it and cried when he lost it, both times Rod Laver was present. He
> > just has too much emotions.
>
> It was embarrassing. =A0Better to shed a tear in victory than to bawl
> over a loss. =A0I would be mortified to go down with Novotna in this
> category. =A0I was always embarrassed for Sampras when he broke down at
> recognition ceremonies, but at least he didn't put himself in a
> position to cry over a huge Agassi loss. =A0I do remember thinking
> Sampras had everything on the line in the 2002 USO final--he had to
> win it because it was likely going to be the final word on that
> rivalry, fair or not. =A0 All's well that ends well in that case.
>
> > 2- I agree with you about his game, he didn't add any new dimension to
> > his game. Also his form was very bad last year, it became clear now.
>
> And now perhaps too late to do much.
>
> > 3- I always doubted what people say that he has a Nadal complex, I
> > have no doubts now. The match was his. But on the other hand, it could
> > be true that he had a bad serving day. Still he should blame himself
> > for that, this is why a lot of practice is required. Even during the
> > warmup before the matches, he hits few serves, and goes to his seat
> > quickly while Nadal or other opponents continue to squeeze as many
> > serves as they could.
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> > 4- Nadal improved the weak parts of his game and became a solid
> > player. I like the kid but I don't like his style of tennis and yes, I
> > have a lot of fear that he could be cheating and I hope he doesn't
> > because after what he achieved it would be a disaster to uncover now.
>
> Disaster is right, especially considering the impact he has had on
> Fed's march to goatness. =A0To me, it would be a much bigger PED deal
> than Landis or Bonds--and those are pretty darn bad. =A0This type of
> revelation would throw rst into a flat spin for sure. =A0The kid is such
> a talented warrior that I have to put these questions aside--for the
> most part anyway.
>
> You don't hear it much, but PED's may well have cost Sampras a US Open
> final in 1997 when he lost in marathon 5 setter to juiced-up Korda.
> Good as Korda was (and that guy was awesome--a LH Lendl with more
> natural talent. =A0I loved the guy's game), it seems highly unlikely
> that the juice didn't make the difference in that one.

Korda was definitely juicing and with hard core steroids nonetheless.
He was ripped during that year. I saw him in the seniors tour
recently, he looks double the weight of his 1997 self. That's what
sucks about PEDs. The guy who loses to the guy who uses PEDs never
gets restitution for his loss.


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 09:47:48
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 8:20=A0pm, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought

Yeah, Nadal is clearly the better player now. But I haven't lost hope
for Federer yet. I hope he makes a good comeback in the latter part of
the year.



 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 08:52:10
From:
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 11:37=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Feb 7, 6:20=A0am, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
> > about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
> > and embarrassed for him. =A0Then I thought about those ridiculous
> > outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
> > not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.
>
> > I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
> > thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
> > in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
> > and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
> > barely scraped by. =A0He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
> > near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. =A0Those ball-less
> > outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
> > was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
> > costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
> > that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
> > That purse....OMG. =A0One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so w=
e
> > didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. =A0Very annoying that
> > was...
>
> > Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
> > sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
> > would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
> > should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
> > Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
> > where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
> > but he has gradually lost me. =A0The crying display at AO was it for Fe=
d
> > for me. =A0I blew the call on rafa. =A0He is the guy with the balls and
> > the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
> > His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
> > Fed. =A0I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but no=
w
> > I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
> > would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
> > Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...
>
> Have you expressed any regret over your embarrassing prediction that
> McCain would sweep all 50 states?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Fuck off. Seriously. We have had this discussion too many times, and
I have addressed it plenty of times. Get a fucking life outside of
rst and don't worry so much about my past predictions of anything
unless they are directly relevant to the subject at hand. I couldn't
recall one way or the other how you think on most subjects, so I am at
a severe disadvantage here.


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 08:49:00
From:
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 11:37=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Feb 7, 6:20=A0am, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
> > about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
> > and embarrassed for him. =A0Then I thought about those ridiculous
> > outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
> > not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.
>
> > I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
> > thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
> > in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
> > and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
> > barely scraped by. =A0He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
> > near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. =A0Those ball-less
> > outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
> > was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
> > costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
> > that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
> > That purse....OMG. =A0One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so w=
e
> > didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. =A0Very annoying that
> > was...
>
> > Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
> > sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
> > would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
> > should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
> > Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
> > where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
> > but he has gradually lost me. =A0The crying display at AO was it for Fe=
d
> > for me. =A0I blew the call on rafa. =A0He is the guy with the balls and
> > the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
> > His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
> > Fed. =A0I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but no=
w
> > I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
> > would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
> > Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...
>
> Have you expressed any regret over your embarrassing prediction that
> McCain would sweep all 50 states?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You can probably understand why I don't frequent this place much
anymore? You're pathetic..


  
Date: 08 Feb 2009 17:30:18
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
blanders0604@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
>>> sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
>>> would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
>>> should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
>>> Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
>>> where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
>>> but he has gradually lost me. The crying display at AO was it for Fed
>>> for me. I blew the call on rafa. He is the guy with the balls and
>>> the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
>>> His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
>>> Fed. I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but now
>>> I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
>>> would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
>>> Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...
>> Have you expressed any regret over your embarrassing prediction that
>> McCain would sweep all 50 states?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You can probably understand why I don't frequent this place much
> anymore? You're pathetic..


FFS don't cry.



 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 08:47:45
From:
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 9:46=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> 1- Don't make a big deal about Federer's crying, he cried when he won
> it and cried when he lost it, both times Rod Laver was present. He
> just has too much emotions.

It was embarrassing. Better to shed a tear in victory than to bawl
over a loss. I would be mortified to go down with Novotna in this
category. I was always embarrassed for Sampras when he broke down at
recognition ceremonies, but at least he didn't put himself in a
position to cry over a huge Agassi loss. I do remember thinking
Sampras had everything on the line in the 2002 USO final--he had to
win it because it was likely going to be the final word on that
rivalry, fair or not. All's well that ends well in that case.


> 2- I agree with you about his game, he didn't add any new dimension to
> his game. Also his form was very bad last year, it became clear now.

And now perhaps too late to do much.

> 3- I always doubted what people say that he has a Nadal complex, I
> have no doubts now. The match was his. But on the other hand, it could
> be true that he had a bad serving day. Still he should blame himself
> for that, this is why a lot of practice is required. Even during the
> warmup before the matches, he hits few serves, and goes to his seat
> quickly while Nadal or other opponents continue to squeeze as many
> serves as they could.

Interesting.

>
> 4- Nadal improved the weak parts of his game and became a solid
> player. I like the kid but I don't like his style of tennis and yes, I
> have a lot of fear that he could be cheating and I hope he doesn't
> because after what he achieved it would be a disaster to uncover now.

Disaster is right, especially considering the impact he has had on
Fed's march to goatness. To me, it would be a much bigger PED deal
than Landis or Bonds--and those are pretty darn bad. This type of
revelation would throw rst into a flat spin for sure. The kid is such
a talented warrior that I have to put these questions aside--for the
most part anyway.

You don't hear it much, but PED's may well have cost Sampras a US Open
final in 1997 when he lost in marathon 5 setter to juiced-up Korda.
Good as Korda was (and that guy was awesome--a LH Lendl with more
natural talent. I loved the guy's game), it seems highly unlikely
that the juice didn't make the difference in that one.


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 08:37:51
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
On Feb 7, 6:20=A0am, blanders0...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have been out of touch with tennis news this week, but I thought
> about Fed crying after he lost again to Rafa and sort of felt sorry
> and embarrassed for him. =A0Then I thought about those ridiculous
> outfits he wears to Wimbledon and realized that such hubris is usually
> not rewarded. He looked like fucking Herman Goering out there.
>
> I also pinpointed when I went sour on Fed, having been nothing but
> thrilled by his tennis previously. It was the '07 FO final that did me
> in--2nd final and 3rd year that he played rafa like a total asshole,
> and then went to Wimbledon and did the same freaking thing---and
> barely scraped by. =A0He didn't seem to learn a fucking thing from that
> near-miss and proceeded to lose his crown in '08. =A0Those ball-less
> outings, the stagnation of his game even in the presence of a kid who
> was obviously overtaking him at it, and those garish Wimbledon
> costumes, I fell off the bandwagon. Perhaps it was the foppishness
> that finally threw me over the edge--I hate that shit in an athlete.
> That purse....OMG. =A0One positive is that Fed cut his hair for AO so we
> didn't have to watch him muss with it constantly. =A0Very annoying that
> was...
>
> Superb nimbleness and a few magical shots here and there no longer
> sufficed--and of course the swinging volley is an abomination that Fed
> would never-ever hit because it is a total piece-of-shit shot that
> should never be struck by someone who likens themself as a volleyer.
> Never--except perhaps in a totally compromised, stretched-out position
> where you have no choice.I was a fed fan--the record is clear on that,
> but he has gradually lost me. =A0The crying display at AO was it for Fed
> for me. =A0I blew the call on rafa. =A0He is the guy with the balls and
> the willingness to adapt his game and make continuous improvements.
> His talent is on par with the elites of the game's history, including
> Fed. =A0I was blinded by the topspin and early clay-only success but now
> I feel fortunate to see this guy play and develop as a player. I never
> would have believed I would say it a couple years ago, but I like
> Nadal better than Fed. I just hope he isn't juiced...

Have you expressed any regret over your embarrassing prediction that
McCain would sweep all 50 states?


 
Date: 07 Feb 2009 06:46:19
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Has Fed expressed any regrets for his embarrassing meltdown?
1- Don't make a big deal about Federer's crying, he cried when he won
it and cried when he lost it, both times Rod Laver was present. He
just has too much emotions.
2- I agree with you about his game, he didn't add any new dimension to
his game. Also his form was very bad last year, it became clear now.
3- I always doubted what people say that he has a Nadal complex, I
have no doubts now. The match was his. But on the other hand, it could
be true that he had a bad serving day. Still he should blame himself
for that, this is why a lot of practice is required. Even during the
warmup before the matches, he hits few serves, and goes to his seat
quickly while Nadal or other opponents continue to squeeze as many
serves as they could.

4- Nadal improved the weak parts of his game and became a solid
player. I like the kid but I don't like his style of tennis and yes, I
have a lot of fear that he could be cheating and I hope he doesn't
because after what he achieved it would be a disaster to uncover now.