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Date: 31 Jan 2009 10:56:43
From: Raja
Subject: Have to respect Serena
Forget the slam count, but she came back to get to #1 after this long
and also won 2 slams in a row. Not many would have been able to do
that. How many champions came back to #1 after 3 years not many. I
dont think any of them.

Also she has been playing since 1997. And she is still winning slams.
She played against the likes of Hingis and Graf and are long gone. and
she is taking on the younger generation with absolute ease.

And if she is really playing this piano (they say she did) then she is
playing some incredible shame. Almost Wakeman like ;-)


For the longetivty and her comebacks, hats off to Serena.






 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 17:53:26
From:
Subject: Re: Have to respect Serena
On Jan 31, 7:42=A0pm, stephenj <s...@cox.com > wrote:

> Henin's groundies were VERY powerful. She hit like a "big babe". Henin
> was probably the 3rd best player of all time, except on grass.


Her shots did not have the heaviness of "big babes" like Davenport. As
small as she was, there was really no way to get that, but she
compensated beautifully by generating loads of racquet-head speed. Her
timing had to be perfect, though, and when it was slightly off, she
sprayed shots badly.


 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 17:35:07
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Have to respect Serena
On Jan 31, 6:42=A0pm, stephenj <s...@cox.com > wrote:
> Raja wrote:
> > On Jan 31, 3:38 pm, stephenj <s...@cox.com> wrote:
> >> Raja wrote:
> >>> Forget the slam count, but she came back to get to #1 after this long
> >>> and also won 2 slams in a row. Not many would have been able to do
> >>> that. How many champions came back to #1 after 3 years not many. I
> >>> dont think any of them.
> >>> Also she has been playing since 1997. And she is still winning slams.
> >>> She played against the likes of Hingis and Graf and are long gone. an=
d
> >>> she is taking on the younger generation with absolute ease.
> >>> And if she is really playing this piano (they say she did) then she i=
s
> >>> playing some incredible shame. Almost Wakeman like ;-)
> >>> For the longetivty and her comebacks, hats off to Serena.
> >> Good post, but remember that Serena has bigger tools than any player i=
n
> >> history.
>
> > Yes thats true.
>
> >> When you have her arsenal, there really isn't anything she does
> >> that can be called surprising.
>
> > She has lot of weaknesses as well. Her forehand is far from perfect
> > and she is not good moving forward. If she is made to run both
> > sideways and forward backward she is in big trouble.
>
> Dude, ANY player who is forced to run both sideways and forward-backward
> on a given point is in big trouble. It means the other player has you on
> =A0 a string. But the trick is getting a player like Serena in to that
> position.
>
> > Henin's groundies
> > were far less powerful than hers but she still won many matches
> > against her.
>
> Henin's groundies were VERY powerful.

lol, hell no. She had decent power but often got overpowered when
opponents played better. Sharapova overpowered her comfortably in USO
and AO.

>She hit like a "big babe".

Nowhere close to the power of sisters, Davenport or Seles or Capriati
or Sharpova or Graf's forehand.

>Henin
> was probably the 3rd best player of all time, except on grass.

Hyperbole, with no basis.

>
> --
> The Constitution does not prohibit legislatures from
> enacting stupid laws.
>
> - Thurgood Marshall



 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 14:13:50
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Have to respect Serena
On Jan 31, 3:55=A0pm, Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de > wrote:
> On Jan 31, 10:52=A0pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 31, 3:38=A0pm, stephenj <s...@cox.com> wrote:
>
> > > Raja wrote:
> > > > Forget the slam count, but she came back to get to #1 after this lo=
ng
> > > > and also won 2 slams in a row. Not many would have been able to do
> > > > that. How many champions came back to #1 after 3 years not many. I
> > > > dont think any of them.
>
> > > > Also she has been playing since 1997. And she is still winning slam=
s.
> > > > She played against the likes of Hingis and Graf and are long gone. =
and
> > > > she is taking on the younger generation with absolute ease.
>
> > > > And if she is really playing this piano (they say she did) then she=
is
> > > > playing some incredible shame. Almost Wakeman like ;-)
>
> > > > For the longetivty and her comebacks, hats off to Serena.
>
> > > Good post, but remember that Serena has bigger tools than any player =
in
> > > history.
>
> > Yes thats true.
>
> > > When you have her arsenal, there really isn't anything she does
> > > that can be called surprising.
>
> > She has lot of weaknesses as well. Her forehand is far from perfect
> > and she is not good moving forward. If she is made to run both
> > sideways and forward backward she is in big trouble. Henin's groundies
> > were far less powerful than hers but she still won many matches
> > against her.
>
> But still Serena is good enough for those Chokerovas ...
>
> Max

Safina is not all time champion and I doubt she ever will be. The only
dangerous opponents Serena has are Venus and Sharapova. Sharapova has
some psychological fear against her. And Venus seems to be better than
her only on grass.



 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 13:55:29
From: Calimero
Subject: Re: Have to respect Serena
On Jan 31, 10:52=A0pm, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 31, 3:38=A0pm, stephenj <s...@cox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Raja wrote:
> > > Forget the slam count, but she came back to get to #1 after this long
> > > and also won 2 slams in a row. Not many would have been able to do
> > > that. How many champions came back to #1 after 3 years not many. I
> > > dont think any of them.
>
> > > Also she has been playing since 1997. And she is still winning slams.
> > > She played against the likes of Hingis and Graf and are long gone. an=
d
> > > she is taking on the younger generation with absolute ease.
>
> > > And if she is really playing this piano (they say she did) then she i=
s
> > > playing some incredible shame. Almost Wakeman like ;-)
>
> > > For the longetivty and her comebacks, hats off to Serena.
>
> > Good post, but remember that Serena has bigger tools than any player in
> > history.
>
> Yes thats true.
>
> > When you have her arsenal, there really isn't anything she does
> > that can be called surprising.
>
> She has lot of weaknesses as well. Her forehand is far from perfect
> and she is not good moving forward. If she is made to run both
> sideways and forward backward she is in big trouble. Henin's groundies
> were far less powerful than hers but she still won many matches
> against her.


But still Serena is good enough for those Chokerovas ...


Max


 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 13:54:46
From: Calimero
Subject: Re: Have to respect Serena
On Jan 31, 10:38=A0pm, stephenj <s...@cox.com > wrote:
> Raja wrote:
> > Forget the slam count, but she came back to get to #1 after this long
> > and also won 2 slams in a row. Not many would have been able to do
> > that. How many champions came back to #1 after 3 years not many. I
> > dont think any of them.
>
> > Also she has been playing since 1997. And she is still winning slams.
> > She played against the likes of Hingis and Graf and are long gone. and
> > she is taking on the younger generation with absolute ease.
>
> > And if she is really playing this piano (they say she did) then she is
> > playing some incredible shame. Almost Wakeman like ;-)
>
> > For the longetivty and her comebacks, hats off to Serena.
>
> Good post, but remember that Serena has bigger tools than any player in
> history. ...


"Tools"!
I didn't know that one!
Nice word for T & A ....


Max


 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 13:52:54
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Have to respect Serena
On Jan 31, 3:38=A0pm, stephenj <s...@cox.com > wrote:
> Raja wrote:
> > Forget the slam count, but she came back to get to #1 after this long
> > and also won 2 slams in a row. Not many would have been able to do
> > that. How many champions came back to #1 after 3 years not many. I
> > dont think any of them.
>
> > Also she has been playing since 1997. And she is still winning slams.
> > She played against the likes of Hingis and Graf and are long gone. and
> > she is taking on the younger generation with absolute ease.
>
> > And if she is really playing this piano (they say she did) then she is
> > playing some incredible shame. Almost Wakeman like ;-)
>
> > For the longetivty and her comebacks, hats off to Serena.
>
> Good post, but remember that Serena has bigger tools than any player in
> history.

Yes thats true.

> When you have her arsenal, there really isn't anything she does
> that can be called surprising.

She has lot of weaknesses as well. Her forehand is far from perfect
and she is not good moving forward. If she is made to run both
sideways and forward backward she is in big trouble. Henin's groundies
were far less powerful than hers but she still won many matches
against her.



  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 18:42:11
From: stephenj
Subject: Re: Have to respect Serena
Raja wrote:
> On Jan 31, 3:38 pm, stephenj <s...@cox.com> wrote:
>> Raja wrote:
>>> Forget the slam count, but she came back to get to #1 after this long
>>> and also won 2 slams in a row. Not many would have been able to do
>>> that. How many champions came back to #1 after 3 years not many. I
>>> dont think any of them.
>>> Also she has been playing since 1997. And she is still winning slams.
>>> She played against the likes of Hingis and Graf and are long gone. and
>>> she is taking on the younger generation with absolute ease.
>>> And if she is really playing this piano (they say she did) then she is
>>> playing some incredible shame. Almost Wakeman like ;-)
>>> For the longetivty and her comebacks, hats off to Serena.
>> Good post, but remember that Serena has bigger tools than any player in
>> history.
>
> Yes thats true.
>
>> When you have her arsenal, there really isn't anything she does
>> that can be called surprising.
>
> She has lot of weaknesses as well. Her forehand is far from perfect
> and she is not good moving forward. If she is made to run both
> sideways and forward backward she is in big trouble.

Dude, ANY player who is forced to run both sideways and forward-backward
on a given point is in big trouble. It means the other player has you on
a string. But the trick is getting a player like Serena in to that
position.

> Henin's groundies
> were far less powerful than hers but she still won many matches
> against her.

Henin's groundies were VERY powerful. She hit like a "big babe". Henin
was probably the 3rd best player of all time, except on grass.



--
The Constitution does not prohibit legislatures from
enacting stupid laws.

- Thurgood Marshall


 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 15:38:09
From: stephenj
Subject: Re: Have to respect Serena
Raja wrote:
> Forget the slam count, but she came back to get to #1 after this long
> and also won 2 slams in a row. Not many would have been able to do
> that. How many champions came back to #1 after 3 years not many. I
> dont think any of them.
>
> Also she has been playing since 1997. And she is still winning slams.
> She played against the likes of Hingis and Graf and are long gone. and
> she is taking on the younger generation with absolute ease.
>
> And if she is really playing this piano (they say she did) then she is
> playing some incredible shame. Almost Wakeman like ;-)
>
>
> For the longetivty and her comebacks, hats off to Serena.

Good post, but remember that Serena has bigger tools than any player in
history. When you have her arsenal, there really isn't anything she does
that can be called surprising.



--
"if federal judges have the final word over its meaning,
the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands
of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form
they please".

- Thomas Jefferson