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Date: 25 Jan 2009 17:44:04
From: Whisper
Subject: I think we all agree.....


...this era contains more chokers than ever.





 
Date: 26 Jan 2009 12:45:10
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
On 25 jan, 08:24, Trevor Smithson <trevor_smith...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:14:16 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >Raja wrote:
> >> On Jan 25, 12:44 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>
> >> Remember Todd Martin, Cedric Pioline all of who Sampras beat to win
> >> his slams. They were the worst.
>
> >Martin had the balls to beat Sampras at AO - Berdshit is a nice piece of
> >work - up there with Novotna in choke stakes.
>
> Not close to Novotna. =A0You're weakening your argument with that
> comparison.


That's part of whiskey... the more he explains his ideas the worse
they look.
In french it's called "contradiction interne" wich is sublty different
from "self-contradiction", should be closer to "inner-contradiction".

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


 
Date: 26 Jan 2009 12:42:00
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
On 25 jan, 07:46, "Stapler" <d...@d.com > wrote:
> "Whisper" <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:497c0a3e$0$14870$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>
>
> > ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>
> No, just that Fed raises his game when his back is against the wall. Was
> Nadal a choker when he lost the 3rd and 4th sets at Wimbly?

Tricky question, don't forget you are talking to whisper :-)


Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


  
Date: 26 Jan 2009 22:42:11
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....

<xamigax@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:67b48cf0-46e1-477d-9894-54544cd43c8f@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> On 25 jan, 07:46, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> "Whisper" <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>>
>> news:497c0a3e$0$14870$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>>
>>
>> > ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>>
>> No, just that Fed raises his game when his back is against the wall. Was
>> Nadal a choker when he lost the 3rd and 4th sets at Wimbly?
>
> Tricky question, don't forget you are talking to whisper :-)


Are you serious?

Comparing Berdych shitty play with Federer' comeback in Wim final?


Federer earned those two sets, fought and came back.
And both of them (Nadal and Federer) were on the top of their games in those
3 sets, having chances to win.

Compare that to Birdshit who gifted Federer an early break in the first or
second game in all of the remaing sets and the results of each set was known
after 2 games.




 
Date: 25 Jan 2009 11:23:11
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
On 25 jan, 07:44, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.

Be serious for few minutes.
When was the last slam we had that many seeded players at this stage?
The only non-seeded was Baghdatis, and I'd like to see someone try to
pretend he did not deserved to be there.
This AO is one of the most "predictable", since seeded are beating non-
seeded & that better seeded are defeating lower seeded.
Read again my answer to your biased question about Seppi as #35
player.
Can't you see that such post makes it hard for us (I consider myself
as having fair enough tennis knowledge & memory, like any other non-
biased/ or aware of their own bias, and not denying it, RSTers) not to
make fool of you?

Read again your thread about Seppi.
Check the seeded back in 1997, how can one say that the field has run
empty of talented (and slam winner) players?

Come on whisper (see, I'm kind enough to use your alias), please let
me know that it's just a game you play, in order to be a (foolish)
star on RST.

None tennis player can enjoy the rise of two handed backhands + over-
oversized tools + hawk eye...
You can't claim to adore & defend the Wimby traditions and agree with
such things.
Hawk eye is just an entertainment gadget, plus it divide the "rich"
from the rest.
How unfair for pro players never playing on courts equiped with...
It should be banned or generalized.
Over sized racquets will have to go too... They are huge brakes on
players own abilities.
Give Nadal (or Djoker, or any other top player with 2HBH) the Borg's
tool, let's see how many BH he will hit, and how good they look.
Defense & lost of touch are both the result of oversizing the head
combined with stiffness of new materials.

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:28:24
From: Shakes
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
On Jan 24, 11:14 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Raja wrote:
> > On Jan 25, 12:44 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>
> > Remember Todd Martin, Cedric Pioline all of who Sampras beat to win
> > his slams. They were the worst.
>
> Martin had the balls to beat Sampras at AO - Berdshit is a nice piece of
> work - up there with Novotna in choke stakes.

Ahem ... Martin beat Pete at the AO in 2001. OTOH he lost to
Washington leading 5-1 in the 5th at Wim.

Fed maybe was fortunate, but not his fault.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:09:41
From: ghell666
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
On 25 Jan, 06:48, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Stapler wrote:
> > "Whisper" <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> >news:497c0a3e$0$14870$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> >> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>
> > No, just that Fed raises his game when his back is against the wall.
>
> Not today. =A0Roger was actually playing far worse in 3rd set than 1st 2 =
-
> birdshit just crumbled before eyes for no reason at all.

thats true - I mean it makes me wonder how many match points he would
need to actually beat him i.e. if you kept feeding them to him ..





 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:08:23
From: ghell666
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
On 25 Jan, 06:44, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.

yep - mental midgets galore ..

It be funny if it wasnt so sad , blame it on parents



 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:08:03
From: akamai
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
On Jan 25, 1:03 am, Raja <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 25, 12:44 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>
> Remember Todd Martin, Cedric Pioline all of who Sampras beat to win
> his slams. They were the worst.

Pete's main rival Agassi himself was a bit of a choker. Where does
that leave us?


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:03:31
From: Raja
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
On Jan 25, 12:44=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.

Remember Todd Martin, Cedric Pioline all of who Sampras beat to win
his slams. They were the worst.



  
Date: 25 Jan 2009 18:14:16
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
Raja wrote:
> On Jan 25, 12:44 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>
> Remember Todd Martin, Cedric Pioline all of who Sampras beat to win
> his slams. They were the worst.
>


Martin had the balls to beat Sampras at AO - Berdshit is a nice piece of
work - up there with Novotna in choke stakes.




   
Date: 25 Jan 2009 01:24:26
From: Trevor Smithson
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:14:16 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Raja wrote:
>> On Jan 25, 12:44 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>>
>> Remember Todd Martin, Cedric Pioline all of who Sampras beat to win
>> his slams. They were the worst.
>>
>
>
>Martin had the balls to beat Sampras at AO - Berdshit is a nice piece of
>work - up there with Novotna in choke stakes.
>

Not close to Novotna. You're weakening your argument with that
comparison.


 
Date: 25 Jan 2009 06:46:50
From: Stapler
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:497c0a3e$0$14870$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>
> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>


No, just that Fed raises his game when his back is against the wall. Was
Nadal a choker when he lost the 3rd and 4th sets at Wimbly?



  
Date: 25 Jan 2009 10:57:15
From: TT
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
Stapler wrote:
> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:497c0a3e$0$14870$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>>
>> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>>
>
>
> No, just that Fed raises his game when his back is against the wall. Was
> Nadal a choker when he lost the 3rd and 4th sets at Wimbly?

Yes Nadal was. Nadal absolutely choked a tiebreak.



--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 25 Jan 2009 17:48:21
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: I think we all agree.....
Stapler wrote:
> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:497c0a3e$0$14870$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>>
>> ...this era contains more chokers than ever.
>>
>
>
> No, just that Fed raises his game when his back is against the wall.



Not today. Roger was actually playing far worse in 3rd set than 1st 2 -
birdshit just crumbled before eyes for no reason at all.