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Date: 09 Jan 2009 14:29:27
From: wkhedr
Subject: I warned that Murray might be over-doing his training and body
Andy Murray inflicted the kind of shattering defeat on Roger Federer
in Qatar which suggested that the only thing to stop him winning a
Grand Slam this year will be misfortune with injuries.
And no sooner had he beaten the five-times Wimbledon champion at the
Qatar Open than he reported that a bad back might keep him out of the
final against Andy Roddick.

=91If my back is going to be like this I won=92t play,=92 declared the
British No 1, following his dismantling of Federer in the last two
setsthat brought a 6-7, 6-2, 6-2 victory.

=91It was getting stiff as the match progressed. I don=92t know whether it
is something to do with the nature of the court or the weather.=92
Murray has been worried about his lower back since playing an
exhibition in Abu Dhabi last week and required treatment in the
deciding set against Federer, although any discomfort starkly failed
to stop him finishing off the great Swiss with clinical ease.
Regardless of today=92s outcome, unless the stiffness has a serious
cause, the bookies are unlikely to change their view that he is now
5-2 favourite for the Australian Open, which starts on January 19.




 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:25:53
From:
Subject: Re: I warned that Murray might be over-doing his training and body
On Jan 9, 5:29=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> Andy Murray inflicted the kind of shattering defeat on Roger Federer
> in Qatar which suggested that the only thing to stop him winning a
> Grand Slam this year will be misfortune with injuries.
> And no sooner had he beaten the five-times Wimbledon champion at the
> Qatar Open than he reported that a bad back might keep him out of the
> final against Andy Roddick.
>
> =91If my back is going to be like this I won=92t play,=92 declared the
> British No 1, following his dismantling of Federer in the last two
> setsthat brought a 6-7, 6-2, 6-2 victory.
>
> =91It was getting stiff as the match progressed. I don=92t know whether i=
t
> is something to do with the nature of the court or the weather.=92
> Murray has been worried about his lower back since playing an
> exhibition in Abu Dhabi last week and required treatment in the
> deciding set against Federer, although any discomfort starkly failed
> to stop him finishing off the great Swiss with clinical ease.
> Regardless of today=92s outcome, unless the stiffness has a serious
> cause, the bookies are unlikely to change their view that he is now
> 5-2 favourite for the Australian Open, which starts on January 19.

All of this got me thinking about what if Murray plays a long and
exhausting SF match vs Federina to beat him at the AO(IF he is in
Federina's half of the draw)only to tire himself so much that he loses
the AO final to someone else? Look what happened after he beat Fed at
TMC.... What if he also misses the Doha final? We could be seeing a
repeat of TMC at the AO with Murray taking out Fed in the SF only to
then see someone else(Rafa, Nole, whoever) win the final because he is
dead tired to win the AO final.... Stay tuned....


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:11:14
From:
Subject: Re: I warned that Murray might be over-doing his training and body
On Jan 9, 11:06=A0pm, Lax <Lax.Cla...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 9, 5:57=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 9, 5:31=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 10 Jan., 04:29, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Andy Murray inflicted the kind of shattering defeat on Roger Federe=
r
> > > > in Qatar which suggested that the only thing to stop him winning a
> > > > Grand Slam this year will be misfortune with injuries.
> > > > And no sooner had he beaten the five-times Wimbledon champion at th=
e
> > > > Qatar Open than he reported that a bad back might keep him out of t=
he
> > > > final against Andy Roddick.
>
> > > Do you think it has something to do with his gym training? But how ca=
n
> > > you tell?
>
> > Yes, I do. Too much bulking causes loss of flexibility and may cause
> > him permanent injury to his back.
>
> One problem he might having is that he really worked hard during the
> offseason and started working hard early. =A0He probably came into the
> start of the seasons very "warmed up" and ready to go. =A0 It might help
> him win AO or it might make him more injury prone prior to AO.

If he plays tomorrow, it's already his 8th match of the year - that's
quite a lot, including that long match with Nadal last week.



  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 03:23:54
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: I warned that Murray might be over-doing his training and body building..
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:11:14 -0800 (PST), gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Jan 9, 11:06 pm, Lax <Lax.Cla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 9, 5:57 pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 9, 5:31 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On 10 Jan., 04:29, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Andy Murray inflicted the kind of shattering defeat on Roger Federer
>> > > > in Qatar which suggested that the only thing to stop him winning a
>> > > > Grand Slam this year will be misfortune with injuries.
>> > > > And no sooner had he beaten the five-times Wimbledon champion at the
>> > > > Qatar Open than he reported that a bad back might keep him out of the
>> > > > final against Andy Roddick.
>>
>> > > Do you think it has something to do with his gym training? But how can
>> > > you tell?
>>
>> > Yes, I do. Too much bulking causes loss of flexibility and may cause
>> > him permanent injury to his back.
>>
>> One problem he might having is that he really worked hard during the
>> offseason and started working hard early.  He probably came into the
>> start of the seasons very "warmed up" and ready to go.   It might help
>> him win AO or it might make him more injury prone prior to AO.
>
>If he plays tomorrow, it's already his 8th match of the year - that's
>quite a lot, including that long match with Nadal last week.

That's pretty damn lot on January 10th...



 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:10:59
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I warned that Murray might be over-doing his training and body
On Jan 9, 2:57 pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Jan 9, 5:31 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 10 Jan., 04:29, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > Andy Murray inflicted the kind of shattering defeat on Roger Federer
> > > in Qatar which suggested that the only thing to stop him winning a
> > > Grand Slam this year will be misfortune with injuries.
> > > And no sooner had he beaten the five-times Wimbledon champion at the
> > > Qatar Open than he reported that a bad back might keep him out of the
> > > final against Andy Roddick.
>
> > Do you think it has something to do with his gym training? But how can
> > you tell?
>
> Yes, I do. Too much bulking causes loss of flexibility and may cause
> him permanent injury to his back.

(A) Too much bulking does cause loss of flexibility, but Murray is
hardly "bulky," and it would be exceedingly difficult for a tennis
player to put on enough bulk to significantly affect flexibility when
you consider how many calories they need to take in just to maintain
their current weight;
(B) Weight training is primarily useful, for tennis players, not
necessarily to build strength, but to prevent injuries - as stronger
muscles provide better support for your joints, etc...

So, if his back problems ARE caused by training, my guess wouldn't be
'body building' or too much bulk, but either over-training or bad gym
technique.


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:06:00
From: Lax
Subject: Re: I warned that Murray might be over-doing his training and body
On Jan 9, 5:57=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Jan 9, 5:31=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 10 Jan., 04:29, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > Andy Murray inflicted the kind of shattering defeat on Roger Federer
> > > in Qatar which suggested that the only thing to stop him winning a
> > > Grand Slam this year will be misfortune with injuries.
> > > And no sooner had he beaten the five-times Wimbledon champion at the
> > > Qatar Open than he reported that a bad back might keep him out of the
> > > final against Andy Roddick.
>
> > Do you think it has something to do with his gym training? But how can
> > you tell?
>
> Yes, I do. Too much bulking causes loss of flexibility and may cause
> him permanent injury to his back.

One problem he might having is that he really worked hard during the
offseason and started working hard early. He probably came into the
start of the seasons very "warmed up" and ready to go. It might help
him win AO or it might make him more injury prone prior to AO.


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 14:57:33
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: I warned that Murray might be over-doing his training and body
On Jan 9, 5:31=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 10 Jan., 04:29, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > Andy Murray inflicted the kind of shattering defeat on Roger Federer
> > in Qatar which suggested that the only thing to stop him winning a
> > Grand Slam this year will be misfortune with injuries.
> > And no sooner had he beaten the five-times Wimbledon champion at the
> > Qatar Open than he reported that a bad back might keep him out of the
> > final against Andy Roddick.
>
> Do you think it has something to do with his gym training? But how can
> you tell?

Yes, I do. Too much bulking causes loss of flexibility and may cause
him permanent injury to his back.


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 14:31:40
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: I warned that Murray might be over-doing his training and body
On 10 Jan., 04:29, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> Andy Murray inflicted the kind of shattering defeat on Roger Federer
> in Qatar which suggested that the only thing to stop him winning a
> Grand Slam this year will be misfortune with injuries.
> And no sooner had he beaten the five-times Wimbledon champion at the
> Qatar Open than he reported that a bad back might keep him out of the
> final against Andy Roddick.
>

Do you think it has something to do with his gym training? But how can
you tell?