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Date: 27 Jan 2009 05:02:35
From: topspin
Subject: I'm still confused
Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
Roddick still there.

This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.

Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....

:-)




 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 09:54:39
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
On Jan 27, 12:45=A0pm, Patrick Kehoe <pke...@telus.net > wrote:
> On Jan 27, 6:04=A0am, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 27, 8:02=A0am, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
> > > Roddick still there.
>
> > > This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
> > > move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>
> > > Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>
> > > :-)
>
> > I still think Nadal and Murray will be great players out of this
> > generation. Well, Nadal already is.
>
> > You can't expect there to be more than 2 greats in one generation.
> > That's too much to ask.
>
> > We had Sampras and Agassi, then nobody in the next generation, then
> > Fed, then Nadal.
>
> > If Murray doesn't live up expectations, Nadal could very well get to
> > double-digit Slams, but I suspect Murray's
> > going to rebound and be very tough opposition for Fed and Nadal in the
> > future.
>
> ++ Maybe the circular paradox of this generation (based on match up
> theory) is that Murray will not rattle Fed in slams as much as he will
> Rafa, though Rafa will out do Roger at slams and so there again Fed
> inches along and Rafa has to work hard to get to 11, the line
> demarcating GOAT candidates... OH... and any slam Roger gets now will
> feel disproportionally rough on Rafa because of the verticle climb
> that chasing 14 becomes at 8 and up... like trying to WALK up a glass
> building...

Yes, good point. After this weekend there'll almost surely either be
an already-big 7-Slam gap
between them or a yawning 9-Slam gap. They both need this Slam badly
so it's going to be a major
disappointment not to have these two titans in the final.


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 09:45:20
From: Patrick Kehoe
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
On Jan 27, 6:04=A0am, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 27, 8:02=A0am, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
> > Roddick still there.
>
> > This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
> > move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>
> > Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>
> > :-)
>
> I still think Nadal and Murray will be great players out of this
> generation. Well, Nadal already is.
>
> You can't expect there to be more than 2 greats in one generation.
> That's too much to ask.
>
> We had Sampras and Agassi, then nobody in the next generation, then
> Fed, then Nadal.
>
> If Murray doesn't live up expectations, Nadal could very well get to
> double-digit Slams, but I suspect Murray's
> going to rebound and be very tough opposition for Fed and Nadal in the
> future.

++ Maybe the circular paradox of this generation (based on match up
theory) is that Murray will not rattle Fed in slams as much as he will
Rafa, though Rafa will out do Roger at slams and so there again Fed
inches along and Rafa has to work hard to get to 11, the line
demarcating GOAT candidates... OH... and any slam Roger gets now will
feel disproportionally rough on Rafa because of the verticle climb
that chasing 14 becomes at 8 and up... like trying to WALK up a glass
building...

P


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 06:12:01
From: Pedro Dias
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
On Jan 27, 8:18=A0am, "Rodjk #613" <rjka...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 27, 7:04=A0am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > topspin wrote:
> > > Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
> > > Roddick still there.
>
> > > This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
> > > move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>
> > > Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>
> > > :-)
>
> > I guess those guys are on the other side of the draw. I wonder what
> > would have happened if Federer had played Simon...
>
> > --
> > "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> > singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>
> Why not just have Roger play everyone in the draw, back to back?
> Really, that's the only fair way...
>
> </sarcasm>
>
> Rodjk #613

All that would do is prove *everybody* in the draw is a clown.

;-)


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 06:04:22
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
On Jan 27, 8:02=A0am, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
> Roddick still there.
>
> This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
> move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>
> Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>
> :-)

I still think Nadal and Murray will be great players out of this
generation. Well, Nadal already is.

You can't expect there to be more than 2 greats in one generation.
That's too much to ask.

We had Sampras and Agassi, then nobody in the next generation, then
Fed, then Nadal.

If Murray doesn't live up expectations, Nadal could very well get to
double-digit Slams, but I suspect Murray's
going to rebound and be very tough opposition for Fed and Nadal in the
future.


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 13:19:59
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:02:35 -0800 (PST), topspin
<goolagongfan@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
>Roddick still there.
>
>This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
>move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>
>Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>
>:-)


Or God forbid ... let the women play on the men's tour ?

Serena vs Rafa ...... I'd take Serena !


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 05:18:16
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
On Jan 27, 7:04=A0am, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> topspin wrote:
> > Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
> > Roddick still there.
>
> > This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
> > move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>
> > Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>
> > :-)
>
> I guess those guys are on the other side of the draw. I wonder what
> would have happened if Federer had played Simon...
>
> --
> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"

Why not just have Roger play everyone in the draw, back to back?
Really, that's the only fair way...

</sarcasm >

Rodjk #613


  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 15:22:56
From: TT
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
Rodjk #613 wrote:
> On Jan 27, 7:04 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> topspin wrote:
>>> Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
>>> Roddick still there.
>>> This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
>>> move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>>> Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>>> :-)
>> I guess those guys are on the other side of the draw. I wonder what
>> would have happened if Federer had played Simon...
>>
>> --
>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>
> Why not just have Roger play everyone in the draw, back to back?
> Really, that's the only fair way...
>
> </sarcasm>
>
> Rodjk #613


<humour >
He'd rather play them bareback
</humour >

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


   
Date: 27 Jan 2009 15:23:35
From: TT
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
TT wrote:
> Rodjk #613 wrote:
>> On Jan 27, 7:04 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>> topspin wrote:
>>>> Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
>>>> Roddick still there.
>>>> This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
>>>> move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>>>> Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>>>> :-)
>>> I guess those guys are on the other side of the draw. I wonder what
>>> would have happened if Federer had played Simon...
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>
>> Why not just have Roger play everyone in the draw, back to back?
>> Really, that's the only fair way...
>>
>> </sarcasm>
>>
>> Rodjk #613
>
>

> <humour>
> He'd rather play them bareback
> </humour>
>

...really that's the only fairy way...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 05:10:44
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
On 27 jan, 14:04, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> topspin wrote:
> > Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
> > Roddick still there.
>
> > This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
> > move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>
> > Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>
> > :-)
>
> I guess those guys are on the other side of the draw. I wonder what
> would have happened if Federer had played Simon...
>
> --
> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"

Instead of adding more noise to RST signal, why not posting something
interesting about how Simon can reach the final, just in case Federer
win his own SF?
Delight us with great insinghts on how Gilles should play to beat
Nadal first and Verdasco/Tsonga then.

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 15:04:14
From: TT
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
topspin wrote:
> Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
> Roddick still there.
>
> This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
> move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>
> Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>
> :-)

I guess those guys are on the other side of the draw. I wonder what
would have happened if Federer had played Simon...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 15:05:53
From: TT
Subject: Re: I'm still confused
TT wrote:
> topspin wrote:
>> Murray gone, Del Potro hammered, Djokovic given up. Federer and
>> Roddick still there.
>>
>> This current generation of 21-year-olds is clown material. Time to
>> move on. Where are the 17-year-olds who are going to end this famine.
>>
>> Or maybe we need to look for 13-year-olds. Or 9-year-olds.....
>>
>> :-)
>
> I guess those guys are on the other side of the draw. I wonder what
> would have happened if Federer had played Simon...
>

And didn't one of the biggest clowns of this generation take Federer to
5 sets?

But yeah, makes one rethink whether this is an era of lions yet after all.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"