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Date: 08 Feb 2009 18:02:08
From: Whisper
Subject: Melbourne burning.....


65 dead so far & expected to rise;


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.html







 
Date: 08 Feb 2009 09:47:10
From: number_six
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Feb 8, 9:23=A0am, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:
> > On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>
> >> Whisper wrote:
>
> >>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>
> >> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne=
.
>
> >> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>
> > I see 93 quoted now:
>
> >http://news.google.com/news?hl=3Den&tab=3Dwn&ned=3Dus&q=3DVictoria+fires=
&ie=3DU...
>
> 96. =A0Before the main searches even start. =A0And numerous survivors wil=
l
> probably not make it due to severity of burns.
>
> > Damn. =A0Don't they evacuate 'round there?
>
> Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by surprise many
> small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
> not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
> people tried to evacuate far too late.
>
> Horrible.
>
> And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
> several months ago.

A large firestorm ranks with the most fearsome displays of the power
of the natural world.


 
Date: 08 Feb 2009 08:58:55
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Feb 8, 11:54=A0am, wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article <498e8377$0$23908$5a62a...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>=
,
>
> beaver...@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>
> > 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>
> >http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.h
> > tml
>
> Yeah, I saw the press stories. Hope you and yours are OK.
>
> wg

Don't worry about him, he is hiding in his special club with other
tier-1 .....


 
Date: 08 Feb 2009 10:54:31
From:
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
In article <498e8377$0$23908$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au >,
beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:

>
> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>
>
> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.h
> tml
>

Yeah, I saw the press stories. Hope you and yours are OK.

wg


  
Date: 09 Feb 2009 05:58:05
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article <498e8377$0$23908$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
> beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>
>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>
>>
>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.h
>> tml
>>
>
> Yeah, I saw the press stories. Hope you and yours are OK.
>
> wg


I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am fine, &
family friends in Vic are fine too.

The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families burned
alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were deliberately
lit & there will be murder charges if they are caught.



   
Date: 09 Feb 2009 00:59:55
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:58:05 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>> In article <498e8377$0$23908$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>> beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>>
>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.h
>>> tml
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, I saw the press stories. Hope you and yours are OK.
>>
>> wg
>
>
>I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am fine, &
>family friends in Vic are fine too.
>
>The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families burned
>alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were deliberately
>lit & there will be murder charges if they are caught.


deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch cause
it was school holidays i bet.


    
Date: 09 Feb 2009 12:06:47
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
Superdave wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:58:05 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <498e8377$0$23908$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>>> beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>>>
>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.h
>>>> tml
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, I saw the press stories. Hope you and yours are OK.
>>>
>>> wg
>>
>>
>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>
>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families burned
>> alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were deliberately
>> lit & there will be murder charges if they are caught.
>
>
> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch cause
> it was school holidays i bet.

In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week. In the second
place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame school holidays for Roger's
pathetic 5th set performance?




     
Date: 10 Feb 2009 09:57:44
From: viper
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....

"DavidW" <no@email.provided > wrote in message
news:hlLjl.7430$jr7.6427@newsfe08.iad...
> Superdave wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:58:05 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <498e8377$0$23908$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>>>> beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.h
>>>>> tml
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I saw the press stories. Hope you and yours are OK.
>>>>
>>>> wg
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>
>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families burned
>>> alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were deliberately
>>> lit & there will be murder charges if they are caught.
>>
>>
>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch cause
>> it was school holidays i bet.
>
> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week. In the
> second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame school holidays
> for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?


No he hasn't, it's part of his job, he's 'One Dimensional Dave'.....

Posting anything of substance is not part of his brief. His brief is to
annoy,
persist, repeat, recycle and irritate.

His 'angle' on this is cheap and cowardly. Unfortunately that's the downside
of usenet, it gives cunts like this buckets of bravado. In a room full of
people
their balls usually climb into the cavity


Viper


>
>




     
Date: 09 Feb 2009 01:11:25
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:06:47 +1100, "DavidW" <no@email.provided > wrote:

>Superdave wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:58:05 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <498e8377$0$23908$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>>>> beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.h
>>>>> tml
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I saw the press stories. Hope you and yours are OK.
>>>>
>>>> wg
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>
>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families burned
>>> alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were deliberately
>>> lit & there will be murder charges if they are caught.
>>
>>
>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch cause
>> it was school holidays i bet.
>
>In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week. In the second
>place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame school holidays for Roger's
>pathetic 5th set performance?
>


sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that australians
can enjoy their school holidays. that's been certified right here in
rst by australians.


      
Date: 09 Feb 2009 12:15:18
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
Superdave wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:06:47 +1100, "DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote:
>
>> Superdave wrote:
>>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:58:05 +1100, Whisper
>>> <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <498e8377$0$23908$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>>>>> beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.h
>>>>>> tml
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I saw the press stories. Hope you and yours are OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> wg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>
>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are caught.
>>>
>>>
>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch cause
>>> it was school holidays i bet.
>>
>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week. In
>> the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame school
>> holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
>>
>
>
> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that australians
> can enjoy their school holidays.

Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.




       
Date: 09 Feb 2009 19:06:20
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
DavidW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>>
>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
>>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are caught.
>>>>
>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch cause
>>>> it was school holidays i bet.
>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week. In
>>> the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame school
>>> holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
>>>
>>
>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that australians
>> can enjoy their school holidays.
>
> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
> extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
>
>

Mirka ate all his hgh's?




        
Date: 09 Feb 2009 19:56:52
From: Edward McArdle
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
In article <498fe3fc$0$23916$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au >,
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote:

>DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
>>>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are caught.
>>>>>
>>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch cause
>>>>> it was school holidays i bet.
>>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week. In
>>>> the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame school
>>>> holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
>>>>
>>>
>>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
>>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that australians
>>> can enjoy their school holidays.
>>
>> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
>> extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
>>
>>
>
>Mirka ate all his hgh's?

To elucidate a little, the reason for having the AO in the school holidays
is that there are 300 ballkids available. It would probably be more
sensible to have both the school holidays and the AO in late March, but I
don't know how feasible either of those is.

By the way, the word is "tortuous."

--
Edward McArdle


         
Date: 10 Feb 2009 08:04:50
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
Edward McArdle wrote:
> In article
> <498fe3fc$0$23916$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
> Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>> DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>>>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
>>>>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are
>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch
>>>>>> cause it was school holidays i bet.
>>>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week.
>>>>> In the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame
>>>>> school holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
>>>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that
>>>> australians can enjoy their school holidays.
>>>
>>> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
>>> extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Mirka ate all his hgh's?
>
> To elucidate a little, the reason for having the AO in the school
> holidays is that there are 300 ballkids available. It would probably
> be more sensible to have both the school holidays and the AO in late
> March, but I don't know how feasible either of those is.
>
> By the way, the word is "tortuous."

I never thought I'd be defending Hazel's English, but he had it right.
"Torturous" is the adjective of "torture", which was the intended meaning.
"Tortuous" means winding, twisting or circuitous.




          
Date: 10 Feb 2009 00:15:12
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:04:50 +1100, "DavidW" <no@email.provided >
wrote:

>Edward McArdle wrote:
>> In article
>> <498fe3fc$0$23916$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>> Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>>>>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
>>>>>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are
>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch
>>>>>>> cause it was school holidays i bet.
>>>>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week.
>>>>>> In the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame
>>>>>> school holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
>>>>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that
>>>>> australians can enjoy their school holidays.
>>>>
>>>> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
>>>> extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mirka ate all his hgh's?
>>
>> To elucidate a little, the reason for having the AO in the school
>> holidays is that there are 300 ballkids available. It would probably
>> be more sensible to have both the school holidays and the AO in late
>> March, but I don't know how feasible either of those is.
>>
>> By the way, the word is "tortuous."
>
>I never thought I'd be defending Hazel's English, but he had it right.
>"Torturous" is the adjective of "torture", which was the intended meaning.
>"Tortuous" means winding, twisting or circuitous.
>


thanks Dave.


          
Date: 10 Feb 2009 11:08:36
From: Edward McArdle
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
In article <tU0kl.4668$5B.352@newsfe20.iad >, "DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote:

>Edward McArdle wrote:
>> In article
>> <498fe3fc$0$23916$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>> Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>>>>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
>>>>>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are
>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch
>>>>>>> cause it was school holidays i bet.
>>>>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week.
>>>>>> In the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame
>>>>>> school holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
>>>>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that
>>>>> australians can enjoy their school holidays.
>>>>
>>>> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
>>>> extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mirka ate all his hgh's?
>>
>> To elucidate a little, the reason for having the AO in the school
>> holidays is that there are 300 ballkids available. It would probably
>> be more sensible to have both the school holidays and the AO in late
>> March, but I don't know how feasible either of those is.
>>
>> By the way, the word is "tortuous."
>
>I never thought I'd be defending Hazel's English, but he had it right.
>"Torturous" is the adjective of "torture", which was the intended meaning.
>"Tortuous" means winding, twisting or circuitous.

<gasp > You're right! I checked my dictionary and there is such a word.
We learn something every day!

--
Edward McArdle


           
Date: 10 Feb 2009 00:41:56
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:08:36 +1100, mcardle@ozemail.com.au (Edward
McArdle) wrote:

>In article <tU0kl.4668$5B.352@newsfe20.iad>, "DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote:
>
>>Edward McArdle wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <498fe3fc$0$23916$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>>> Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>>>>>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>>>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
>>>>>>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are
>>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch
>>>>>>>> cause it was school holidays i bet.
>>>>>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week.
>>>>>>> In the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame
>>>>>>> school holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
>>>>>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that
>>>>>> australians can enjoy their school holidays.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
>>>>> extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mirka ate all his hgh's?
>>>
>>> To elucidate a little, the reason for having the AO in the school
>>> holidays is that there are 300 ballkids available. It would probably
>>> be more sensible to have both the school holidays and the AO in late
>>> March, but I don't know how feasible either of those is.
>>>
>>> By the way, the word is "tortuous."
>>
>>I never thought I'd be defending Hazel's English, but he had it right.
>>"Torturous" is the adjective of "torture", which was the intended meaning.
>>"Tortuous" means winding, twisting or circuitous.
>
><gasp> You're right! I checked my dictionary and there is such a word.
>We learn something every day!


do you feel foolish now ? oh wait ! he's australian.


            
Date: 10 Feb 2009 16:30:29
From: Edward McArdle
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
In article <59j1p4dhfhfn56birg7fneqa6cec6v9ct1@4ax.com >,
the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:08:36 +1100, mcardle@ozemail.com.au (Edward
>McArdle) wrote:
>
>>In article <tU0kl.4668$5B.352@newsfe20.iad>, "DavidW"
<no@email.provided > wrote:
>>
>>>Edward McArdle wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <498fe3fc$0$23916$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>>>> Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>>>>>>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>>>>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
>>>>>>>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are
>>>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch
>>>>>>>>> cause it was school holidays i bet.
>>>>>>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week.
>>>>>>>> In the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame
>>>>>>>> school holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
>>>>>>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that
>>>>>>> australians can enjoy their school holidays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
>>>>>> extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mirka ate all his hgh's?
>>>>
>>>> To elucidate a little, the reason for having the AO in the school
>>>> holidays is that there are 300 ballkids available. It would probably
>>>> be more sensible to have both the school holidays and the AO in late
>>>> March, but I don't know how feasible either of those is.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, the word is "tortuous."
>>>
>>>I never thought I'd be defending Hazel's English, but he had it right.
>>>"Torturous" is the adjective of "torture", which was the intended meaning.
>>>"Tortuous" means winding, twisting or circuitous.
>>
>><gasp> You're right! I checked my dictionary and there is such a word.
>>We learn something every day!
>
>
>do you feel foolish now ? oh wait ! he's australian.

I may have to resign from Mensa!

--
Edward McArdle


         
Date: 09 Feb 2009 11:40:33
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:56:52 +1100, mcardle@ozemail.com.au (Edward
McArdle) wrote:

>In article <498fe3fc$0$23916$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>>DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
>>>>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
>>>>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are caught.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch cause
>>>>>> it was school holidays i bet.
>>>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week. In
>>>>> the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame school
>>>>> holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
>>>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that australians
>>>> can enjoy their school holidays.
>>>
>>> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
>>> extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Mirka ate all his hgh's?
>
>To elucidate a little, the reason for having the AO in the school holidays
>is that there are 300 ballkids available. It would probably be more
>sensible to have both the school holidays and the AO in late March, but I
>don't know how feasible either of those is.
>
>By the way, the word is "tortuous."


I know. It was a test. You passed. Actually it was not for you though.
It was for the "other guy" who is always picking on my spelling so now
and then I throw something in to amuse him. You spoiled his fun.


          
Date: 09 Feb 2009 21:10:56
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....

On 9-Feb-2009, Superdave <the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com > wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:56:52 +1100, mcardle@ozemail.com.au (Edward
> McArdle) wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><498fe3fc$0$23916$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
> >Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >>DavidW wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so am
> >>>>>>> fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
> >>>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires were
> >>>>>>> deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they are
> >>>>>>>caught.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch
> >>>>>> cause
> >>>>>> it was school holidays i bet.
> >>>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a week. In
> >>>>> the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do you blame school
> >>>>> holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set performance?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
> >>>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that
> >>>> australians
> >>>> can enjoy their school holidays.
> >>>
> >>> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on the
> >>> extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Mirka ate all his hgh's?
> >
> >To elucidate a little, the reason for having the AO in the school
> >holidays
> >is that there are 300 ballkids available. It would probably be more
> >sensible to have both the school holidays and the AO in late March, but I
> >don't know how feasible either of those is.
> >
> >By the way, the word is "tortuous."
>
>
> I know. It was a test. You passed. Actually it was not for you though.
> It was for the "other guy" who is always picking on my spelling so now
> and then I throw something in to amuse him. You spoiled his fun.

Given DavidW's post, what do you have to say for yourself now? :)


           
Date: 10 Feb 2009 08:29:51
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
jdeluise wrote:
> On 9-Feb-2009, Superdave <the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:56:52 +1100, mcardle@ozemail.com.au (Edward
>> McArdle) wrote:
>>
>>> In article
>>> <498fe3fc$0$23916$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>>> Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm nowhere near the fires (1,000 km away) & have no bush so
>>>>>>>>> am fine, & family friends in Vic are fine too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The toll looks like going well > 100 - sad stories of families
>>>>>>>>> burned alive in cars trying to get out. Most of the fires
>>>>>>>>> were deliberately lit & there will be murder charges if they
>>>>>>>>> are caught.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> deliberately lit my ass. they couldn't be arsed to be on watch
>>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>> it was school holidays i bet.
>>>>>>> In the first place it hasn't been school holidaysfor over a
>>>>>>> week. In the second place you've way overdone this angle. Do
>>>>>>> you blame school holidays for Roger's pathetic 5th set
>>>>>>> performance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sure because the ao is played is such torturous weather that is
>>>>>> medically a threat to life and the reason it is is so that
>>>>>> australians
>>>>>> can enjoy their school holidays.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger had five night matches and the two day matches were not on
>>>>> the extreme-heat days. Find another excuse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mirka ate all his hgh's?
>>>
>>> To elucidate a little, the reason for having the AO in the school
>>> holidays
>>> is that there are 300 ballkids available. It would probably be more
>>> sensible to have both the school holidays and the AO in late March,
>>> but I don't know how feasible either of those is.
>>>
>>> By the way, the word is "tortuous."
>>
>>
>> I know. It was a test. You passed. Actually it was not for you
>> though. It was for the "other guy" who is always picking on my
>> spelling so now and then I throw something in to amuse him. You
>> spoiled his fun.

I hadn't read this before I posted my other response. Hazel, you idiot.

> Given DavidW's post, what do you have to say for yourself now? :)




 
Date: 08 Feb 2009 06:48:58
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Feb 8, 2:02=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>
> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.html

it looks to be centered in the wrong areas as long as you are still
posting.



 
Date: 08 Feb 2009 06:35:12
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Feb 8, 11:28=A0am, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 03:21:37 -0800 (PST), Professor X
>
>
>
>
>
> <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 8, 9:57=A0am, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
> >> Whisper wrote:
> >> > 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>
> >> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne=
.
>
> >> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>
> >> >http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.ht=
ml-Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >That would be a terrible way to go. I'd imagine that such is the
> >nature of the events that whole families could be being wiped out. A
> >tragedy, shame.
>
> >Maybe some sort of mandatory buffer zone should be introduced between
> >housing and these forests in major risk areas? Or perhaps forests
> >closest to large communities should be partially deforested since It
> >seems that this sort of thing happens far too often.
>
> hey, chill out. it's school holidays !- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

not here ;-)


 
Date: 08 Feb 2009 03:21:37
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Feb 8, 9:57=A0am, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided > wrote:
> Whisper wrote:
> > 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>
> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>
> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>
>
>
> >http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.html-=
Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That would be a terrible way to go. I'd imagine that such is the
nature of the events that whole families could be being wiped out. A
tragedy, shame.

Maybe some sort of mandatory buffer zone should be introduced between
housing and these forests in major risk areas? Or perhaps forests
closest to large communities should be partially deforested since It
seems that this sort of thing happens far too often.


  
Date: 09 Feb 2009 08:38:00
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
Professor X wrote:
> On Feb 8, 9:57 am, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>> Whisper wrote:
>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>
>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside
>> Melbourne.
>>
>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.html-
>
> That would be a terrible way to go. I'd imagine that such is the
> nature of the events that whole families could be being wiped out. A
> tragedy, shame.
>
> Maybe some sort of mandatory buffer zone should be introduced between
> housing and these forests in major risk areas? Or perhaps forests
> closest to large communities should be partially deforested since It
> seems that this sort of thing happens far too often.

Many people living in those areas are there because they want to live with
nature all around. These fires are so big and fierce and driven by gale-force
winds that a huge amount of forest would need to cleared to keep people safe in
all the small towns dotted everywhere. The wind blows embers well ahead of the
main fire front and they start more fires or land on houses.

As of this morning the toll is 108 and is likely to rise. About 700 homes have
been destroyed.

The last big bushfire disaster in south-eastern Australia was on 16 February
1983, which was coincidentally the day known to Christians as Ash Wednesday. It
killed 75 people. However, on that day the reports came quickly so we knew of
the disaster unfolding almost as it was happening. This time the day passed with
only reports of some fires, but no deaths and only a few houses burned.
Remembering what Ash Wednesday was like it appeared that everyone got through a
bad day pretty well. There was no indication of the disaster until the next day.




  
Date: 08 Feb 2009 11:28:52
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 03:21:37 -0800 (PST), Professor X
<suebokaian@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 8, 9:57 am, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>> Whisper wrote:
>> > 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>
>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>>
>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>
>>
>>
>> >http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.html- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>That would be a terrible way to go. I'd imagine that such is the
>nature of the events that whole families could be being wiped out. A
>tragedy, shame.
>
>Maybe some sort of mandatory buffer zone should be introduced between
>housing and these forests in major risk areas? Or perhaps forests
>closest to large communities should be partially deforested since It
>seems that this sort of thing happens far too often.


hey, chill out. it's school holidays !


   
Date: 09 Feb 2009 09:23:33
From: viper
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....

"Superdave" <the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:uegto4110a8obebtsii9p8ctlu52bhpl2v@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 03:21:37 -0800 (PST), Professor X
> <suebokaian@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 8, 9:57 am, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>>> Whisper wrote:
>>> > 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>
>>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>>>
>>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.html-
>>> >Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>That would be a terrible way to go. I'd imagine that such is the
>>nature of the events that whole families could be being wiped out. A
>>tragedy, shame.
>>
>>Maybe some sort of mandatory buffer zone should be introduced between
>>housing and these forests in major risk areas? Or perhaps forests
>>closest to large communities should be partially deforested since It
>>seems that this sort of thing happens far too often.
>
>
> hey, chill out. it's school holidays !


The great thing about fuckwits like you, is that sooner or later someone
will give you that
smack in the mouth that you so richly deserve. The sight of you dropping
like the sack of
shit you are would indeed be memorable

I only wish it could be me, alas some other lucky bastard will have that
pleasure


Viper




 
Date: 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
Whisper wrote:
> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;

Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.

The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.

> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.html





  
Date: 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09
From: mimus
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:

> Whisper wrote:
>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>
> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>
> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.

I see 93 quoted now:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n

Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?

>> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25024630-601,00.html

Couldn't get this link to work.



   
Date: 08 Feb 2009 12:23:49
From: mimus
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>
>> Whisper wrote:
>>
>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>
>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>>
>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>
> I see 93 quoted now:
>
> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n

96. Before the main searches even start. And numerous survivors will
probably not make it due to severity of burns.

> Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?

Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by surprise many
small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
people tried to evacuate far too late.

Horrible.

And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
several months ago.



    
Date: 09 Feb 2009 05:59:40
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
mimus wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>>
>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>
>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>>>
>>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>> I see 93 quoted now:
>>
>> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n
>
> 96. Before the main searches even start. And numerous survivors will
> probably not make it due to severity of burns.
>
>> Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?
>
> Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by surprise many
> small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
> not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
> people tried to evacuate far too late.
>
> Horrible.
>
> And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
> several months ago.
>


The weather has been atrocious in Melbourne. Someone described it as
100 hair dryers blowing in your face in the city - never seen anything
like it - 47.9 celsius was the max & hot wind.



     
Date: 09 Feb 2009 01:00:35
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:59:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>mimus wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>>>>
>>>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>> I see 93 quoted now:
>>>
>>> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n
>>
>> 96. Before the main searches even start. And numerous survivors will
>> probably not make it due to severity of burns.
>>
>>> Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?
>>
>> Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by surprise many
>> small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
>> not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
>> people tried to evacuate far too late.
>>
>> Horrible.
>>
>> And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
>> several months ago.
>>
>
>
>The weather has been atrocious in Melbourne. Someone described it as
>100 hair dryers blowing in your face in the city - never seen anything
>like it - 47.9 celsius was the max & hot wind.


great tennis weather for the school holidays !


      
Date: 09 Feb 2009 12:13:09
From: Edward McArdle
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
In article <q00vo49fbd8831m7tva1il4hm2gdiielac@4ax.com >,
the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:59:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>wrote:
>
>>mimus wrote:
>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>>>>>
>>>>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>>> I see 93 quoted now:
>>>>
>>>>
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n
>>>
>>> 96. Before the main searches even start. And numerous survivors will
>>> probably not make it due to severity of burns.
>>>
>>>> Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?
>>>
>>> Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by surprise many
>>> small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
>>> not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
>>> people tried to evacuate far too late.
>>>
>>> Horrible.
>>>
>>> And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
>>> several months ago.
>>>
>>
>>
>>The weather has been atrocious in Melbourne. Someone described it as
>>100 hair dryers blowing in your face in the city - never seen anything
>>like it - 47.9 celsius was the max & hot wind.
>
>
>great tennis weather for the school holidays !

It isn't the school holidays! And it is rotten weather to be back at
school. One day we won't go back to school until March.
The country around Victoria is basically trees, with small communities
here and there. Anytime except when it is over 45C it is beautiful. Well,
it is often very dry.
And a lot of communities don't have schools any more!
There is not a lot of suggestion of arson, but one or two fires may be.
Basically it was heat and lightning.

--
Edward McArdle


       
Date: 09 Feb 2009 12:02:38
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:13:09 +1100, mcardle@ozemail.com.au (Edward McArdle)
wrote:

>There is not a lot of suggestion of arson, but one or two fires may be.
>Basically it was heat and lightning.

The AP, in today's Washington Post: "WHITTLESEA, Australia -- Police declared
incinerated towns crime scenes Monday, and the prime minister spoke of "mass
murder" after investigators said arsonists may have set some of Australia's
worst wildfires in history. The death toll rose to 166."

-- Larry


        
Date: 10 Feb 2009 08:25:05
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
pltrgyst wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:13:09 +1100, mcardle@ozemail.com.au (Edward
> McArdle) wrote:
>
>> There is not a lot of suggestion of arson, but one or two fires may
>> be. Basically it was heat and lightning.
>
> The AP, in today's Washington Post: "WHITTLESEA, Australia -- Police
> declared incinerated towns crime scenes Monday, and the prime
> minister spoke of "mass murder" after investigators said arsonists
> may have set some of Australia's worst wildfires in history. The
> death toll rose to 166."

So far I've heard no suggestion from the police that the fire around Whittlesea,
which destroyed the towns of Kinglake and Marysville, and resulted in most of
the deaths, was deliberately lit. AFAIK the police are treating the towns as
crime scenes just because arson is a possibility until it's disproved. There is
another fire in Gippsland (a region east of Melbourne; Whittlesea is a town to
the north) that police are sure was deliberately lit, which is why arson is on
everyone's minds in relation to all the fires.




         
Date: 09 Feb 2009 17:37:50
From: mimus
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:25:05 +1100, DavidW wrote:

> pltrgyst wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:13:09 +1100, mcardle@ozemail.com.au (Edward
>> McArdle) wrote:
>>
>>> There is not a lot of suggestion of arson, but one or two fires may
>>> be. Basically it was heat and lightning.
>>
>> The AP, in today's Washington Post: "WHITTLESEA, Australia -- Police
>> declared incinerated towns crime scenes Monday, and the prime
>> minister spoke of "mass murder" after investigators said arsonists
>> may have set some of Australia's worst wildfires in history. The
>> death toll rose to 166."
>
> So far I've heard no suggestion from the police that the fire around Whittlesea,
> which destroyed the towns of Kinglake and Marysville, and resulted in most of
> the deaths, was deliberately lit. AFAIK the police are treating the towns as
> crime scenes just because arson is a possibility until it's disproved. There is
> another fire in Gippsland (a region east of Melbourne; Whittlesea is a town to
> the north) that police are sure was deliberately lit, which is why arson is on
> everyone's minds in relation to all the fires.

Tuesday, January 15, 2008

U.S. intel alerted to threat of 'Forest Fire Jihad'

U.S. officials monitoring terrorist web sites have discovered a call for
using forest fires as weapons against "crusader" nations, in what may
explain some recent wildfires in places like southern California and
Greece.

A terrorist website was discovered recently that carried a posting that
called for "Forest Jihad." The posting was listed on the Internet on
Nov. 26 and reported in U.S. intelligence channels last week.

The statement, in Arabic, said that "summer has begun so do not forget the
Forest Jihad."

The writer called on all Muslims in the United States, Europe, Russia and
Australia to "start forest fires" . . . .

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/me_terror_01_15.asp

--

Take a deep breath, take a walk, cool off, plot a bit, and serve again.




       
Date: 09 Feb 2009 19:05:10
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
Edward McArdle wrote:
> In article <q00vo49fbd8831m7tva1il4hm2gdiielac@4ax.com>,
> the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:59:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> mimus wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>>>> I see 93 quoted now:
>>>>>
>>>>>
> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n
>>>> 96. Before the main searches even start. And numerous survivors will
>>>> probably not make it due to severity of burns.
>>>>
>>>>> Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?
>>>> Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by surprise many
>>>> small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
>>>> not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
>>>> people tried to evacuate far too late.
>>>>
>>>> Horrible.
>>>>
>>>> And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
>>>> several months ago.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The weather has been atrocious in Melbourne. Someone described it as
>>> 100 hair dryers blowing in your face in the city - never seen anything
>>> like it - 47.9 celsius was the max & hot wind.
>>
>> great tennis weather for the school holidays !
>
> It isn't the school holidays! And it is rotten weather to be back at
> school. One day we won't go back to school until March.
> The country around Victoria is basically trees, with small communities
> here and there. Anytime except when it is over 45C it is beautiful. Well,
> it is often very dry.
> And a lot of communities don't have schools any more!
> There is not a lot of suggestion of arson, but one or two fires may be.
> Basically it was heat and lightning.
>


They had an expert pyromaniac psychologist on the radio & she said of
the 20,000 or so bush fires annually, 50% are deliberately lit.



        
Date: 09 Feb 2009 11:37:53
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:05:10 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Edward McArdle wrote:
>> In article <q00vo49fbd8831m7tva1il4hm2gdiielac@4ax.com>,
>> the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:59:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>>>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>>>>> I see 93 quoted now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n
>>>>> 96. Before the main searches even start. And numerous survivors will
>>>>> probably not make it due to severity of burns.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?
>>>>> Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by surprise many
>>>>> small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
>>>>> not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
>>>>> people tried to evacuate far too late.
>>>>>
>>>>> Horrible.
>>>>>
>>>>> And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
>>>>> several months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The weather has been atrocious in Melbourne. Someone described it as
>>>> 100 hair dryers blowing in your face in the city - never seen anything
>>>> like it - 47.9 celsius was the max & hot wind.
>>>
>>> great tennis weather for the school holidays !
>>
>> It isn't the school holidays! And it is rotten weather to be back at
>> school. One day we won't go back to school until March.
>> The country around Victoria is basically trees, with small communities
>> here and there. Anytime except when it is over 45C it is beautiful. Well,
>> it is often very dry.
>> And a lot of communities don't have schools any more!
>> There is not a lot of suggestion of arson, but one or two fires may be.
>> Basically it was heat and lightning.
>>
>
>
>They had an expert pyromaniac psychologist on the radio & she said of
>the 20,000 or so bush fires annually, 50% are deliberately lit.

that's fucking HOGWASH !

and if it is NOT then your whole police force, forest rangers or what
ever you call them should be FIRED !

Imagine the headlines .....

10,000 fires started by arsonist ... Police are at the pub having a
beer and the Forest Rangers are enjoying school holidays at the
Australian Open.

When asked about the mass arsonist the chief of police asked ...
what's arson.

ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

I mean are they that fucking DUMB ! Somebody lights 10,000 fires and
they haven't a clue ?


         
Date: 09 Feb 2009 23:07:37
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
Superdave wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:05:10 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Edward McArdle wrote:
>>> In article <q00vo49fbd8831m7tva1il4hm2gdiielac@4ax.com>,
>>> the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:59:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>>>>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>>>>>> I see 93 quoted now:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n
>>>>>> 96. Before the main searches even start. And numerous survivors will
>>>>>> probably not make it due to severity of burns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?
>>>>>> Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by surprise many
>>>>>> small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
>>>>>> not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
>>>>>> people tried to evacuate far too late.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Horrible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
>>>>>> several months ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The weather has been atrocious in Melbourne. Someone described it as
>>>>> 100 hair dryers blowing in your face in the city - never seen anything
>>>>> like it - 47.9 celsius was the max & hot wind.
>>>> great tennis weather for the school holidays !
>>> It isn't the school holidays! And it is rotten weather to be back at
>>> school. One day we won't go back to school until March.
>>> The country around Victoria is basically trees, with small communities
>>> here and there. Anytime except when it is over 45C it is beautiful. Well,
>>> it is often very dry.
>>> And a lot of communities don't have schools any more!
>>> There is not a lot of suggestion of arson, but one or two fires may be.
>>> Basically it was heat and lightning.
>>>
>>
>> They had an expert pyromaniac psychologist on the radio & she said of
>> the 20,000 or so bush fires annually, 50% are deliberately lit.
>
> that's fucking HOGWASH !
>
> and if it is NOT then your whole police force, forest rangers or what
> ever you call them should be FIRED !
>
> Imagine the headlines .....
>
> 10,000 fires started by arsonist ... Police are at the pub having a
> beer and the Forest Rangers are enjoying school holidays at the
> Australian Open.
>
> When asked about the mass arsonist the chief of police asked ...
> what's arson.
>
> ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>
> I mean are they that fucking DUMB ! Somebody lights 10,000 fires and
> they haven't a clue ?


er, it's not one arsonist arsehole.



          
Date: 09 Feb 2009 23:18:57
From: Edward McArdle
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
In article <49901c8a$0$23947$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au >,
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote:

>Superdave wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:05:10 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Edward McArdle wrote:
>>>> In article <q00vo49fbd8831m7tva1il4hm2gdiielac@4ax.com>,
>>>> the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:59:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>>>>>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside
Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>>>>>>> I see 93 quoted now:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n
>>>>>>> 96. Before the main searches even start. And numerous survivors will
>>>>>>> probably not make it due to severity of burns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?
>>>>>>> Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by
surprise many
>>>>>>> small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
>>>>>>> not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
>>>>>>> people tried to evacuate far too late.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Horrible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
>>>>>>> several months ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The weather has been atrocious in Melbourne. Someone described it as
>>>>>> 100 hair dryers blowing in your face in the city - never seen anything
>>>>>> like it - 47.9 celsius was the max & hot wind.
>>>>> great tennis weather for the school holidays !
>>>> It isn't the school holidays! And it is rotten weather to be back at
>>>> school. One day we won't go back to school until March.
>>>> The country around Victoria is basically trees, with small communities
>>>> here and there. Anytime except when it is over 45C it is beautiful. Well,
>>>> it is often very dry.
>>>> And a lot of communities don't have schools any more!
>>>> There is not a lot of suggestion of arson, but one or two fires may be.
>>>> Basically it was heat and lightning.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They had an expert pyromaniac psychologist on the radio & she said of
>>> the 20,000 or so bush fires annually, 50% are deliberately lit.
>>
>> that's fucking HOGWASH !
>>
>> and if it is NOT then your whole police force, forest rangers or what
>> ever you call them should be FIRED !
>>
>> Imagine the headlines .....
>>
>> 10,000 fires started by arsonist ... Police are at the pub having a
>> beer and the Forest Rangers are enjoying school holidays at the
>> Australian Open.
>>
>> When asked about the mass arsonist the chief of police asked ...
>> what's arson.
>>
>> ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>>
>> I mean are they that fucking DUMB ! Somebody lights 10,000 fires and
>> they haven't a clue ?
>
>
>er, it's not one arsonist arsehole.

But your statement *is* extremely unlikely. And in Australia, at least,
the fires often start in impenetrable forest. Our biggest fire this week
does seem to have been arson, though. The one which wiped out the town of
Maryborough.

--
Edward McArdle


           
Date: 09 Feb 2009 23:22:49
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Melbourne burning.....
Edward McArdle wrote:
> In article <49901c8a$0$23947$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
> Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Superdave wrote:
>>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:05:10 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Edward McArdle wrote:
>>>>> In article <q00vo49fbd8831m7tva1il4hm2gdiielac@4ax.com>,
>>>>> the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:59:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:44:09 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:57:58 +1100, DavidW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 65 dead so far & expected to rise;
>>>>>>>>>> Slight correction. All the Victorian fires have been outside
> Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>>> The toll has been going up all day. Now it's 76.
>>>>>>>>> I see 93 quoted now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Victoria+fires&ie=UTF-8&scoring=n
>>>>>>>> 96. Before the main searches even start. And numerous survivors will
>>>>>>>> probably not make it due to severity of burns.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Damn. Don't they evacuate 'round there?
>>>>>>>> Ah, apparently a 60 mph wind changed direction, catching by
> surprise many
>>>>>>>> small communities previously thought to have been passed by, and many if
>>>>>>>> not most of the casualties seem to've occurred on the road in cars as
>>>>>>>> people tried to evacuate far too late.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Horrible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And arsonists suspected in some of the fires, just as in California
>>>>>>>> several months ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The weather has been atrocious in Melbourne. Someone described it as
>>>>>>> 100 hair dryers blowing in your face in the city - never seen anything
>>>>>>> like it - 47.9 celsius was the max & hot wind.
>>>>>> great tennis weather for the school holidays !
>>>>> It isn't the school holidays! And it is rotten weather to be back at
>>>>> school. One day we won't go back to school until March.
>>>>> The country around Victoria is basically trees, with small communities
>>>>> here and there. Anytime except when it is over 45C it is beautiful. Well,
>>>>> it is often very dry.
>>>>> And a lot of communities don't have schools any more!
>>>>> There is not a lot of suggestion of arson, but one or two fires may be.
>>>>> Basically it was heat and lightning.
>>>>>
>>>> They had an expert pyromaniac psychologist on the radio & she said of
>>>> the 20,000 or so bush fires annually, 50% are deliberately lit.
>>> that's fucking HOGWASH !
>>>
>>> and if it is NOT then your whole police force, forest rangers or what
>>> ever you call them should be FIRED !
>>>
>>> Imagine the headlines .....
>>>
>>> 10,000 fires started by arsonist ... Police are at the pub having a
>>> beer and the Forest Rangers are enjoying school holidays at the
>>> Australian Open.
>>>
>>> When asked about the mass arsonist the chief of police asked ...
>>> what's arson.
>>>
>>> ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>>>
>>> I mean are they that fucking DUMB ! Somebody lights 10,000 fires and
>>> they haven't a clue ?
>>
>> er, it's not one arsonist arsehole.
>
> But your statement *is* extremely unlikely. And in Australia, at least,
> the fires often start in impenetrable forest. Our biggest fire this week
> does seem to have been arson, though. The one which wiped out the town of
> Maryborough.
>


It's not my statement - check with the experts.