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Date: 09 Jan 2009 20:37:01
From: Stapler
Subject: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
no excuses for him not to win~~




 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 22:48:56
From: TT
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
Stapler wrote:
> no excuses for him not to win~~

Not overwhelming. Murray 3.75, Federer 4, Nadal 5, Djoker 7

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 09 Jan 2009 12:46:43
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
On Jan 9, 3:37=A0pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com > wrote:
> no excuses for him not to win~~

Yes, tough to pick against him. But I wouldn't put too much money on
him, only because he's been
thrust into a tricky situation, being favored over guys with much more
experience and Slam credentials
than what he's got.

There are some parallels there to Guga at 1999 French, Sampras at 1991
USO, Ferrero at 2002 FO

It's tough to win the first time you're touted as a big favorite at a
Slam. Usually guys tend to sneak up on the
field, with exceptions such as mental giants like Nadal.

In Murray's favor, at least he has played in a Slam final before.


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 08:02:30
From: guyana
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
On Jan 9, 4:30=A0pm, Trevor Smithson <trevor_smith...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:46:43 -0800 (PST), Jason Catlin
>
>
>
> <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 9, 3:37=A0pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >> no excuses for him not to win~~
>
> >Yes, tough to pick against him. But I wouldn't put too much money on
> >him, only because he's been
> >thrust into a tricky situation, being favored over guys with much more
> >experience and Slam credentials
> >than what he's got.
>
> >There are some parallels there to Guga at 1999 French, Sampras at 1991
> >USO, Ferrero at 2002 FO
>
> >It's tough to win the first time you're touted as a big favorite at a
> >Slam. Usually guys tend to sneak up on the
> >field, with exceptions such as mental giants like Nadal.
>
> >In Murray's favor, at least he has played in a Slam final before.
>
> Reminds me of Djokovic in '07--a young up-&-comer in his 1st slam
> final, gets beaten pretty badly by Federer in that year's USO final,
> then beats Federer in the AO semis & goes on to win it.
>
> Now we have Murray, another young up-&-comer, who got pasted by
> Federer in the '08 USO final. =A0Beating Federer & winning the AO will
> take some doing, but it's looking more likely.

calls for the trainer strategically?? cheating???


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 07:59:44
From:
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
On Jan 10, 12:31=A0am, Patrick Kehoe <pke...@telus.net > wrote:
> On Jan 9, 3:18=A0pm, Aranci...@selin.com wrote:
>
> > > True, but Djoke was still able to come in a little under the radar
> > > last year. That may not have
> > > been the case if he had beaten Fed three straight times between 2007
> > > USO and 2008 AO.
>
> > Because Nole is not a bad matchup for Fed like Murray is. =A0Fed is
> > fucked on HC now.
>
> ++ Murray might turn out to be one of those guys who's injured or
> nursing physical issues his entire career... he's already been like
> that, not the the degree of Tsonga or Monfils (or god forbid Haas);
> still, in long tournaments he always seems to favour his knee and now
> the back after just a few matches??? I hope this is just some
> preseason tweek, but, one has to wonder... like Nole's cardio issues
> and emerging reputation for partying and Nadal's knee tendonitus
> issues... hasn't blunted Rafa yet, of course...
>
> P

How sad to see the Fedfuckers hoping Murray gets injured.


  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 21:31:48
From: Patrick Kehoe
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
On Jan 9, 3:18=A0pm, Aranci...@selin.com wrote:
> > True, but Djoke was still able to come in a little under the radar
> > last year. That may not have
> > been the case if he had beaten Fed three straight times between 2007
> > USO and 2008 AO.
>
> Because Nole is not a bad matchup for Fed like Murray is. =A0Fed is
> fucked on HC now.

++ Murray might turn out to be one of those guys who's injured or
nursing physical issues his entire career... he's already been like
that, not the the degree of Tsonga or Monfils (or god forbid Haas);
still, in long tournaments he always seems to favour his knee and now
the back after just a few matches??? I hope this is just some
preseason tweek, but, one has to wonder... like Nole's cardio issues
and emerging reputation for partying and Nadal's knee tendonitus
issues... hasn't blunted Rafa yet, of course...

P


   
Date: 10 Jan 2009 05:57:57
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:31:48 -0800 (PST), Patrick Kehoe
<pkehoe@telus.net > wrote:

>On Jan 9, 3:18 pm, Aranci...@selin.com wrote:
>> > True, but Djoke was still able to come in a little under the radar
>> > last year. That may not have
>> > been the case if he had beaten Fed three straight times between 2007
>> > USO and 2008 AO.
>>
>> Because Nole is not a bad matchup for Fed like Murray is.  Fed is
>> fucked on HC now.
>
>++ Murray might turn out to be one of those guys who's injured or
>nursing physical issues his entire career... he's already been like
>that, not the the degree of Tsonga or Monfils (or god forbid Haas);
>still, in long tournaments he always seems to favour his knee and now
>the back after just a few matches??? I hope this is just some
>preseason tweek, but, one has to wonder... like Nole's cardio issues
>and emerging reputation for partying and Nadal's knee tendonitus
>issues... hasn't blunted Rafa yet, of course...
>
>P


nadal's knee is shot now. he's finished.


    
Date: 10 Jan 2009 06:39:57
From: Stapler
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote in message
news:e5egm4lkggn0k0967e03j87h5jva15hsaj@4ax.com...
>
> nadal's knee is shot now. he's finished.


Keep praying HazelHitler.



  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:18:05
From:
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...

> True, but Djoke was still able to come in a little under the radar
> last year. That may not have
> been the case if he had beaten Fed three straight times between 2007
> USO and 2008 AO.

Because Nole is not a bad matchup for Fed like Murray is. Fed is
fucked on HC now.


  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:16:16
From:
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
On Jan 9, 4:30=A0pm, Trevor Smithson <trevor_smith...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:46:43 -0800 (PST), Jason Catlin
>
>
>
>
>
> <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 9, 3:37=A0pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >> no excuses for him not to win~~
>
> >Yes, tough to pick against him. But I wouldn't put too much money on
> >him, only because he's been
> >thrust into a tricky situation, being favored over guys with much more
> >experience and Slam credentials
> >than what he's got.
>
> >There are some parallels there to Guga at 1999 French, Sampras at 1991
> >USO, Ferrero at 2002 FO
>
> >It's tough to win the first time you're touted as a big favorite at a
> >Slam. Usually guys tend to sneak up on the
> >field, with exceptions such as mental giants like Nadal.
>
> >In Murray's favor, at least he has played in a Slam final before.
>
> Reminds me of Djokovic in '07--a young up-&-comer in his 1st slam
> final, gets beaten pretty badly by Federer in that year's USO final,
> then beats Federer in the AO semis & goes on to win it.
>
> Now we have Murray, another young up-&-comer, who got pasted by
> Federer in the '08 USO final. =A0Beating Federer & winning the AO will
> take some doing, but it's looking more likely.


Yeah, Murray is the new Nole. But Murray is a worst matchup for Fed
than Nole is....


  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 13:37:11
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
On Jan 9, 4:30=A0pm, Trevor Smithson <trevor_smith...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:46:43 -0800 (PST), Jason Catlin
>
>
>
>
>
> <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 9, 3:37=A0pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
> >> no excuses for him not to win~~
>
> >Yes, tough to pick against him. But I wouldn't put too much money on
> >him, only because he's been
> >thrust into a tricky situation, being favored over guys with much more
> >experience and Slam credentials
> >than what he's got.
>
> >There are some parallels there to Guga at 1999 French, Sampras at 1991
> >USO, Ferrero at 2002 FO
>
> >It's tough to win the first time you're touted as a big favorite at a
> >Slam. Usually guys tend to sneak up on the
> >field, with exceptions such as mental giants like Nadal.
>
> >In Murray's favor, at least he has played in a Slam final before.
>
> Reminds me of Djokovic in '07--a young up-&-comer in his 1st slam
> final, gets beaten pretty badly by Federer in that year's USO final,
> then beats Federer in the AO semis & goes on to win it.
>
> Now we have Murray, another young up-&-comer, who got pasted by
> Federer in the '08 USO final. =A0Beating Federer & winning the AO will
> take some doing, but it's looking more likely.-

True, but Djoke was still able to come in a little under the radar
last year. That may not have
been the case if he had beaten Fed three straight times between 2007
USO and 2008 AO.


  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:30:07
From: Trevor Smithson
Subject: Re: Murray is the overwhelming favorite for AO now...
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:46:43 -0800 (PST), Jason Catlin
<jason-catlin@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 9, 3:37 pm, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> no excuses for him not to win~~
>
>Yes, tough to pick against him. But I wouldn't put too much money on
>him, only because he's been
>thrust into a tricky situation, being favored over guys with much more
>experience and Slam credentials
>than what he's got.
>
>There are some parallels there to Guga at 1999 French, Sampras at 1991
>USO, Ferrero at 2002 FO
>
>It's tough to win the first time you're touted as a big favorite at a
>Slam. Usually guys tend to sneak up on the
>field, with exceptions such as mental giants like Nadal.
>
>In Murray's favor, at least he has played in a Slam final before.

Reminds me of Djokovic in '07--a young up-&-comer in his 1st slam
final, gets beaten pretty badly by Federer in that year's USO final,
then beats Federer in the AO semis & goes on to win it.

Now we have Murray, another young up-&-comer, who got pasted by
Federer in the '08 USO final. Beating Federer & winning the AO will
take some doing, but it's looking more likely.