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Date: 01 Feb 2009 11:57:00
From: Shakes
Subject: My beef with fed
is not bcos he lost the match, but the way he lost it. Not since lendl
against connors (and occasionally against becker) have I seen a top
player so mentally cowed by another top player.

At least, roddick, given the same situation against federer, gives his
best every time. That is at least respectable. Fed, today, never
showed the mettle of a champion. It's sad, really.

I hope this eats him up so much that he should never forgive himself
for his mental performance.




 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 13:06:20
From: Shakes
Subject: Re: My beef with fed
On Feb 1, 12:37 pm, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 1:57 pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > is not bcos he lost the match, but the way he lost it. Not since lendl
> > against connors (and occasionally against becker) have I seen a top
> > player so mentally cowed by another top player.
>
> > At least, roddick, given the same situation against federer, gives his
> > best every time. That is at least respectable. Fed, today, never
> > showed the mettle of a champion. It's sad, really.
>
> > I hope this eats him up so much that he should never forgive himself
> > for his mental performance.
>
> My simple analysis is that Rafa is just better now - we have different
> matches with Fed doing different things (serving great, serving
> horrible, forehand clicking, forehand not clicking, backhand breaking
> down, backhand not breaking down) and inevitably the result is always
> the same. For a long time, I also used to think that Fed is the better
> player and if he plays well he will win. But those days are long over,
> and his only hope to win against Rafa is hoping that Rafa is off his
> game and he is playing really well - neither of which is likely to
> happen, not on the same day anyway. His hope to add to his slam
> collection more is that Djoker and Murray can take Nadal out for him,
> otherwise he doesn't have much hope...

That doesn't explain today's performance. Throwing DF's to lose sets
and tie-breaks ? That's not called being outplayed. That's an
indication of crumbling mentally.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 12:37:02
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: My beef with fed
On Feb 1, 1:57=A0pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> is not bcos he lost the match, but the way he lost it. Not since lendl
> against connors (and occasionally against becker) have I seen a top
> player so mentally cowed by another top player.
>
> At least, roddick, given the same situation against federer, gives his
> best every time. That is at least respectable. Fed, today, never
> showed the mettle of a champion. It's sad, really.
>
> I hope this eats him up so much that he should never forgive himself
> for his mental performance.

My simple analysis is that Rafa is just better now - we have different
matches with Fed doing different things (serving great, serving
horrible, forehand clicking, forehand not clicking, backhand breaking
down, backhand not breaking down) and inevitably the result is always
the same. For a long time, I also used to think that Fed is the better
player and if he plays well he will win. But those days are long over,
and his only hope to win against Rafa is hoping that Rafa is off his
game and he is playing really well - neither of which is likely to
happen, not on the same day anyway. His hope to add to his slam
collection more is that Djoker and Murray can take Nadal out for him,
otherwise he doesn't have much hope...


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 12:21:29
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: My beef with fed
On 1 feb, 21:02, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 11:58 am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 1, 2:57 pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > is not bcos he lost the match, but the way he lost it. Not since lendl
> > > against connors (and occasionally against becker) have I seen a top
> > > player so mentally cowed by another top player.
>
> > > At least, roddick, given the same situation against federer, gives his
> > > best every time. That is at least respectable. Fed, today, never
> > > showed the mettle of a champion. It's sad, really.
>
> > > I hope this eats him up so much that he should never forgive himself
> > > for his mental performance.
>
> > He needs some one else to talk to instead of Mirka. Any
>
> Sampras is the best when it comes to guts. Sampras has lost a lot more
> than fed, but at least he was never found wanting in courage. He
> played his game, and he either won or he lost.
>
> Fed is good friends with sampras. I think sampras can help him out,
> mentally.

But almost every person in history has lost more. Granted, Sampras
could help develop his serve into the weapon it could be, as well as
convince him to attack relentlessly.

The problem is Sampras doesn't want to see his records broken, so will
probably give him false advice. ;-) Besides, I don't think coaching
really suits Sampras. He's more of an action man instead of a talking
man.

Agassi could help Federer and I think he likes Fed. Agassi would
stress Fed to work on his physical strength, which IMO is necessary to
start beating Nadal sometimes. This way he would get a chance to pick
up some tips from Steffi. She would probably tell him to use his slice
more against Nadal.

Or... take few hours to talk to Laver while he's still in Melbourne.
Laver could help Federer to detach from his ego and provide some
precious insight in to how to beat a pesky lefty on clay :D


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 12:04:17
From:
Subject: Re: My beef with fed
On Feb 1, 1:58=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2:57=A0pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > is not bcos he lost the match, but the way he lost it. Not since lendl
> > against connors (and occasionally against becker) have I seen a top
> > player so mentally cowed by another top player.
>
> > At least, roddick, given the same situation against federer, gives his
> > best every time. That is at least respectable. Fed, today, never
> > showed the mettle of a champion. It's sad, really.
>
> > I hope this eats him up so much that he should never forgive himself
> > for his mental performance.
>
> He needs some one else to talk to instead of Mirka. Any

???? where does this come from?


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 12:02:48
From: Shakes
Subject: Re: My beef with fed
On Feb 1, 11:58 am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2:57 pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > is not bcos he lost the match, but the way he lost it. Not since lendl
> > against connors (and occasionally against becker) have I seen a top
> > player so mentally cowed by another top player.
>
> > At least, roddick, given the same situation against federer, gives his
> > best every time. That is at least respectable. Fed, today, never
> > showed the mettle of a champion. It's sad, really.
>
> > I hope this eats him up so much that he should never forgive himself
> > for his mental performance.
>
> He needs some one else to talk to instead of Mirka. Any

Sampras is the best when it comes to guts. Sampras has lost a lot more
than fed, but at least he was never found wanting in courage. He
played his game, and he either won or he lost.

Fed is good friends with sampras. I think sampras can help him out,
mentally.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 11:58:58
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: My beef with fed
On Feb 1, 2:57=A0pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> is not bcos he lost the match, but the way he lost it. Not since lendl
> against connors (and occasionally against becker) have I seen a top
> player so mentally cowed by another top player.
>
> At least, roddick, given the same situation against federer, gives his
> best every time. That is at least respectable. Fed, today, never
> showed the mettle of a champion. It's sad, really.
>
> I hope this eats him up so much that he should never forgive himself
> for his mental performance.

He needs some one else to talk to instead of Mirka. Any