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Date: 31 Jan 2009 01:31:32
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Nadal - Verdasco, my post

Before I read what others have said (and I suspect there are so many
posts that I will read only a small part of them), here are my
thoughts.

What a fantastic match! When it started at 10.30 am my time (or
actually it started a bit after 10.50), I didn't exactly think it
would still be going on when I had to leave at 3.40 pm. And I saw the
end of it at work after 4 pm. Just now watched the end again.

Verdasco has become such an amazing player all of a sudden. He always
had big shots, but he used to make so many crazy errors that he didn't
achieve much. Now he has even bigger shots, much better serve, and
most importantly makes much, much less errors. Sure he still makes
erros, but playing so aggressively you naturally make them. I don't
know what Gil Reyes or someone has done to him. Amazing shots, time
after time...

He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.

It will be interestin to see if Verdasco can keep this form. If he
can, he sure is a top 5 player.

Then some things I expect have been posted a million times already.
Federer must have been very happy watching this. He has an advantage
now. I guess Fedhaters have already declared it not valid if he wins
this (and obviously laughable if he doesn't). But this is how it goes,
part of winning a slam is winning the matches during the tournament as
easily as possible.

Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
a same day.













 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 22:40:19
From: Jesper Lauridsen
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
On 2009-01-30, Sakari Lund <sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote:
>
> Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
> so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
> extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
> played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
> a same day.

I don't see Federer playing his two hours against Roddick on Friday
instead of Thursday is going to change anything about his fitness
for Sunday.


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 00:48:51
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:40:19 +0000 (UTC), Jesper Lauridsen
<rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk > wrote:

>On 2009-01-30, Sakari Lund <sakari.lund@welho.com> wrote:
>>
>> Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
>> so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
>> extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
>> played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
>> a same day.
>
>I don't see Federer playing his two hours against Roddick on Friday
>instead of Thursday is going to change anything about his fitness
>for Sunday.

Yes, I realized that later and said that the scheduling was
irrelevant.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 15:42:13
From: DC
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
Sakari Lund said the following on 31/01/2009 8:31 AM:
> He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
> least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
> much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
> still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
> somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
> have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.

Tsonga beat Nadal last year with positive and aggressive play. I don't
think it's a co-incidence.

Mix it up, go for your shots, come to the net a bit, do the unexpected,
be unpredictable. Don't let Nadal get into a rhythm. I think Nadal likes
order - look at the way he lines everything up. That could possibly be a
weakness.


  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 23:14:20
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
On Feb 1, 12:42=A0pm, DC <u...@nospam.net > wrote:
> Sakari Lund said the following on 31/01/2009 8:31 AM:
>
> > He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
> > least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
> > much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
> > still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
> > somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
> > have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.
>
> Tsonga beat Nadal last year with positive and aggressive play. I don't
> think it's a co-incidence.
>
> Mix it up, go for your shots, come to the net a bit, do the unexpected,
> be unpredictable. Don't let Nadal get into a rhythm. I think Nadal likes
> order - look at the way he lines everything up. That could possibly be a
> weakness.

There's no weakness, no pattern. This is Nadal and Federer we are
talking about. You have to play every point as if it's the matchpoint,
and then when the point is over, you will forget about it and play the
next point just like that. That's the only way for Federer to beat
Nadal, and vice versa.


  
Date: 01 Feb 2009 07:49:30
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post

"DC" <user@nospam.net > wrote in message
news:4985443e$0$18817$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Sakari Lund said the following on 31/01/2009 8:31 AM:
>> He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
>> least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
>> much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
>> still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
>> somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
>> have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.
>
> Tsonga beat Nadal last year with positive and aggressive play. I don't
> think it's a co-incidence.
>
> Mix it up, go for your shots, come to the net a bit, do the unexpected, be
> unpredictable. Don't let Nadal get into a rhythm. I think Nadal likes
> order - look at the way he lines everything up. That could possibly be a
> weakness.

It is, however, being unpredictable is not enough, those shots have to be
*good*. :)


Anyway, Federer already tried to get into Nadal's head. And does it all the
time.
Remember how Nadal likes always to make the entrance as the last guy who
steps on court.
Federer always forces him to come out first.




 
Date: 30 Jan 2009 17:04:39
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
On Jan 30, 6:31=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:

> I don't know what Gil Reyes or someone has done to him. Amazing shots, t=
ime
> after time...

I remember Agassi running up mountains with rocks in his backpack,
saying that the actual tennis match was a piece of cake. I agree, all
of a sudden Verdasco is playing like a top 5 player.

> He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
> least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
> much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
> still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
> somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
> have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.

I didn't want Verdasco to win because I have doubts about his mindset
when facing Federer. However, it's a shame someone had to lose that
match and not make the final.

> Federer must have been very happy watching this.

I think he's feeling a little ill - Rafa again? Not good. Not good at
all. lol. The thought of losing to Rafa -- again! I don't think
Federer enjoys his matches against Rafa, but I do think Rafa enjoys
playing Federer.

> Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
> so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
> extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
> played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
> a same day.

It's up to the players to change the system. Boris Becker did this
with the USO I believe.

I went to work after the 4th set - recorded the 5th and watched when I
got home. Nadal - gotta love the guy's will and determination.
Fantastic match.






  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 23:11:50
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
On Jan 31, 7:04=A0am, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:

>
> I think he's feeling a little ill - Rafa again? Not good. Not good at
> all. =A0lol. The thought of losing to Rafa -- again! I don't think
> Federer enjoys his matches against Rafa, but I do think Rafa enjoys
> playing Federer.

I don't think Federer thinks like that. If he did, he wouldn't have
won 13 grand slams. He wants to win against Rafa (if they cross path)
and show that he is better. From what I have read from interviews,
Federer to me seems like a very positive person.


 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 00:50:17
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:31:32 +0200, Sakari Lund
<sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote:

>
>Before I read what others have said (and I suspect there are so many
>posts that I will read only a small part of them), here are my
>thoughts.
>
>What a fantastic match! When it started at 10.30 am my time (or
>actually it started a bit after 10.50), I didn't exactly think it
>would still be going on when I had to leave at 3.40 pm. And I saw the
>end of it at work after 4 pm. Just now watched the end again.
>
>Verdasco has become such an amazing player all of a sudden. He always
>had big shots, but he used to make so many crazy errors that he didn't
>achieve much. Now he has even bigger shots, much better serve, and
>most importantly makes much, much less errors. Sure he still makes
>erros, but playing so aggressively you naturally make them. I don't
>know what Gil Reyes or someone has done to him. Amazing shots, time
>after time...
>
>He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
>least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
>much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
>still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
>somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
>have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.
>
>It will be interestin to see if Verdasco can keep this form. If he
>can, he sure is a top 5 player.
>
>Then some things I expect have been posted a million times already.
>Federer must have been very happy watching this. He has an advantage
>now. I guess Fedhaters have already declared it not valid if he wins
>this (and obviously laughable if he doesn't). But this is how it goes,
>part of winning a slam is winning the matches during the tournament as
>easily as possible.
>
>Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
>so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
>extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
>played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
>a same day.
>


fuck verdasco


  
Date: 30 Jan 2009 17:05:50
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
On Jan 30, 7:50=A0pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com >
wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:31:32 +0200, Sakari Lund
>
>
>
> <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
> >Before I read what others have said (and I suspect there are so many
> >posts that I will read only a small part of them), here are my
> >thoughts.
>
> >What a fantastic match! When it started at 10.30 am my time (or
> >actually it started a bit after 10.50), I didn't exactly think it
> >would still be going on when I had to leave at 3.40 pm. And I saw the
> >end of it at work after 4 pm. Just now watched the end again.
>
> >Verdasco has become such an amazing player all of a sudden. He always
> >had big shots, but he used to make so many crazy errors that he didn't
> >achieve much. Now he has even bigger shots, much better serve, and
> >most importantly makes much, much less errors. Sure he still makes
> >erros, but playing so aggressively you naturally make them. I don't
> >know what Gil Reyes or someone has done to him. Amazing shots, time
> >after time...
>
> >He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
> >least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
> >much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
> >still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
> >somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
> >have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.
>
> >It will be interestin to see if Verdasco can keep this form. If he
> >can, he sure is a top 5 player.
>
> >Then some things I expect have been posted a million times already.
> >Federer must have been very happy watching this. He has an advantage
> >now. I guess Fedhaters have already declared it not valid if he wins
> >this (and obviously laughable if he doesn't). But this is how it goes,
> >part of winning a slam is winning the matches during the tournament as
> >easily as possible.
>
> >Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
> >so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
> >extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
> >played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
> >a same day.
>
> fuck verdasco

Nervous? Scared? You should be.


   
Date: 31 Jan 2009 05:16:49
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:05:50 -0800 (PST), blueskates1111@aol.com
wrote:

>On Jan 30, 7:50 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com>
>wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:31:32 +0200, Sakari Lund
>>
>>
>>
>> <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Before I read what others have said (and I suspect there are so many
>> >posts that I will read only a small part of them), here are my
>> >thoughts.
>>
>> >What a fantastic match! When it started at 10.30 am my time (or
>> >actually it started a bit after 10.50), I didn't exactly think it
>> >would still be going on when I had to leave at 3.40 pm. And I saw the
>> >end of it at work after 4 pm. Just now watched the end again.
>>
>> >Verdasco has become such an amazing player all of a sudden. He always
>> >had big shots, but he used to make so many crazy errors that he didn't
>> >achieve much. Now he has even bigger shots, much better serve, and
>> >most importantly makes much, much less errors. Sure he still makes
>> >erros, but playing so aggressively you naturally make them. I don't
>> >know what Gil Reyes or someone has done to him. Amazing shots, time
>> >after time...
>>
>> >He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
>> >least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
>> >much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
>> >still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
>> >somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
>> >have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.
>>
>> >It will be interestin to see if Verdasco can keep this form. If he
>> >can, he sure is a top 5 player.
>>
>> >Then some things I expect have been posted a million times already.
>> >Federer must have been very happy watching this. He has an advantage
>> >now. I guess Fedhaters have already declared it not valid if he wins
>> >this (and obviously laughable if he doesn't). But this is how it goes,
>> >part of winning a slam is winning the matches during the tournament as
>> >easily as possible.
>>
>> >Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
>> >so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
>> >extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
>> >played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
>> >a same day.
>>
>> fuck verdasco
>
>Nervous? Scared? You should be.


sometimes i get nervous but i never get scared.


    
Date: 31 Jan 2009 22:59:41
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:05:50 -0800 (PST), blueskates1111@aol.com
> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 30, 7:50 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:31:32 +0200, Sakari Lund
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Before I read what others have said (and I suspect there are so many
>>>> posts that I will read only a small part of them), here are my
>>>> thoughts.
>>>> What a fantastic match! When it started at 10.30 am my time (or
>>>> actually it started a bit after 10.50), I didn't exactly think it
>>>> would still be going on when I had to leave at 3.40 pm. And I saw the
>>>> end of it at work after 4 pm. Just now watched the end again.
>>>> Verdasco has become such an amazing player all of a sudden. He always
>>>> had big shots, but he used to make so many crazy errors that he didn't
>>>> achieve much. Now he has even bigger shots, much better serve, and
>>>> most importantly makes much, much less errors. Sure he still makes
>>>> erros, but playing so aggressively you naturally make them. I don't
>>>> know what Gil Reyes or someone has done to him. Amazing shots, time
>>>> after time...
>>>> He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
>>>> least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
>>>> much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
>>>> still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
>>>> somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
>>>> have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.
>>>> It will be interestin to see if Verdasco can keep this form. If he
>>>> can, he sure is a top 5 player.
>>>> Then some things I expect have been posted a million times already.
>>>> Federer must have been very happy watching this. He has an advantage
>>>> now. I guess Fedhaters have already declared it not valid if he wins
>>>> this (and obviously laughable if he doesn't). But this is how it goes,
>>>> part of winning a slam is winning the matches during the tournament as
>>>> easily as possible.
>>>> Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
>>>> so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
>>>> extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
>>>> played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
>>>> a same day.
>>> fuck verdasco
>> Nervous? Scared? You should be.
>
>
> sometimes i get nervous but i never get scared.


True - you just get disappointed a lot.



 
Date: 31 Jan 2009 00:51:55
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
Sakari Lund wrote:

> Verdasco has become such an amazing player all of a sudden. He always
> had big shots, but he used to make so many crazy errors that he didn't
> achieve much. Now he has even bigger shots, much better serve, and
> most importantly makes much, much less errors. Sure he still makes
> erros, but playing so aggressively you naturally make them. I don't
> know what Gil Reyes or someone has done to him. Amazing shots, time
> after time...

Yep, I also watched most of Murray-Verdasco too and was a little bit
unsure whether Murray just didn't push him enough or if Verdasco just
were playing out of his mind. Obviously, the latter was more like it.
His forehand must be one of the best shots in the game right now. In
matches where he doesn't have to come up with THAT many shots in every
rally, it is also a quite high percentage shot, it seems. His serve is
also great - at least he has a potential to serve huge, no question.

Most importantly he can keep himself under control during the match and
maintain focus now. Especially in that fourth set I saw he was really
tired at some point, but it was fascinating how he managed to focus on
the basics of his game and not getting distracted by the occasion in any
sense.

> He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
> least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
> much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
> still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
> somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
> have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.

Absolutely. Nadal played amazing defense, almost clay court defense. For
his own sake I don't hope he plays like this against Federer though
because he will punish it at the net a lot more than Verdasco did.

> It will be interestin to see if Verdasco can keep this form. If he
> can, he sure is a top 5 player.

Hard to say. I really hope so, but he needs to mix it up more often and
improve his net game. That slice of his is really a nightmare at times.
I also think those AO courts are perfect for his game - absorbs spin and
not too fast, but not too slow either. Against Nadal he probably would
prefer an even faster surface. I would really follow him at IW/Miami. It
will be crucial for him to follow up this in another event, so that the
players in the field realize that there is no coincidence that he made
the semifinals at AO.

> Then some things I expect have been posted a million times already.
> Federer must have been very happy watching this. He has an advantage
> now.

Yes, he does. But I am still not sure about the final outcome. Nadal won
all their matches in 2008. Sure, Roger wants revenge, but I am not sure
whether those emotions are really advantageous for him on these
occasions. We will have to wait and see on Sunday. Will be exciting, for
sure!

PS.


 
Date: 30 Jan 2009 23:51:00
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
Sakari Lund wrote:
> Before I read what others have said (and I suspect there are so many
> posts that I will read only a small part of them), here are my
> thoughts.
>
> What a fantastic match! When it started at 10.30 am my time (or
> actually it started a bit after 10.50), I didn't exactly think it
> would still be going on when I had to leave at 3.40 pm. And I saw the
> end of it at work after 4 pm. Just now watched the end again.
>
> Verdasco has become such an amazing player all of a sudden. He always
> had big shots, but he used to make so many crazy errors that he didn't
> achieve much. Now he has even bigger shots, much better serve, and
> most importantly makes much, much less errors. Sure he still makes
> erros, but playing so aggressively you naturally make them. I don't
> know what Gil Reyes or someone has done to him. Amazing shots, time
> after time...
>
> He played so positively and dominated the rallies so much, that I at
> least wanted him to win. Nadal wasn't able to or didn't want to play
> much offense in this match. But then again, all that Verdasco did, it
> still wasn't enough to beat him. He just hangs in there and wins
> somehow. And still the two most amazing points were won by Nadal. You
> have to give a lot of credit for Nadal too.
>

25 errors in 5 hours and 14 minutes from Nadal. He just never misses.

> It will be interestin to see if Verdasco can keep this form. If he
> can, he sure is a top 5 player.
>
> Then some things I expect have been posted a million times already.
> Federer must have been very happy watching this. He has an advantage
> now. I guess Fedhaters have already declared it not valid if he wins
> this (and obviously laughable if he doesn't). But this is how it goes,
> part of winning a slam is winning the matches during the tournament as
> easily as possible.
>
> Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
> so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
> extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
> played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
> a same day.
>
>

A similar thing can happen earlier.

Say, Federer wins his QF easily in the heat of the day and has a night
SF slot in 3 days.

Nadal can have a 5 hour and 14 minute QF at night and have to play his
SF in the day time in less than 36 hours.

No way to make it completely fair when the two halves start playing
alternate days.

--
Cheers,

vc


 
Date: 30 Jan 2009 15:47:53
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal - Verdasco, my post
>
> Verdasco said after the match that the AO schedule should be changed
> so that the semis are on a same day. He has a point. This is an
> extreme example, Federer won in straight sets on Thursday, Nadal
> played five hours on Friday, but it would be fair to have the semis on
> a same day.

Verdasco's comments sounded like a bit of a whine to be honest (though
he has a point). He made it clear he wanted Nadal to win the final
since he is a friend of his - would he have made the same comment if
they had played the first SF?

The issue is that the AO has night sessions, and they don't want a day
where they just have two ladies singles matches and some doubles. They
need a mens SF in the evening to get the fans so they have to split
them (or more accurately keep the two sides of the draw split the
whole way through).