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Date: 06 Jan 2009 20:42:05
From: TT
Subject: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Nadal unfazed by Abu Dhabi defeat

By N.D. Prashant

World No 1 Rafael Nadal must have received a jolt at the hands of Andy
Murray coming into the Qatar Exxonmobil Open. But the Spanish ace
remains unfazed.

You cannot consider it as a major blow. The loss against Murray
shouldnt affect my play here at all. As far as Im concerned, I have
played well but yes, Andy was better there. I would say that the Abu
Dhabi tournament was more of a preparation tournament, asserted Nadal,
who meets Qatar Open 2000 champion Fabrice Santoro in his opening match.

Nadal played down the talks of his chances in the tournament but warned
his rivals that he is in no mood to spare an inch.

I cant say if I can start off the season from here on a high but
certainly Im very much looking forward to doing well. It is an
important tournament for me and I have come here to play good tennis.
You can be assured; I shall give it my best.

Last year, Nadal won eight titles and the most number of matches (82),
but to keep up his top billing will be a huge ask for the injury prone
22-year-old. Making matters worse would be Federer.
The Swiss ace, ever since losing his crown, is looking for some payback
and is keen to regain his top rank.

It is not just Murray or Federer but there are many players out there
who are capable of taking the No 1 spot. Murray is really playing well
right now and will be a strong contender for the Australian Open and the
tournaments ahead. Federer has always been a keen competitor and he will
always come back at you.

Nadal said he spared no effort to get fit after suffering from
exhaustion and injury towards the end of the last season.

Ive spent lot of time working hard on my fitness. Im raring to go out
there with a win on my mind in every match. This season is bound to be
absorbing and exhilarating. Im game for it.




 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 16:22:12
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 6, 11:57=A0pm, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2:28 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > TT wrote:
> > > andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Jan 6, 2:10 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> > >>> andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>> On Jan 6, 10:45 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> > >>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that h=
e
> > >>>>> wants
> > >>>>> to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to tak=
e his
> > >>>>> Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
> > >>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
> > >>>> Were you expecting him to aim not to take Wimbledon back?
> > >>> That one wasn't the overly confident comment, obviously.
>
> > >> Just checking. ;-) Is it mathematically impossible for him to take #=
1
> > >> back by / during IW? I haven't looked at the numbers recently.
>
> > > No it's not, but Nadal would have to do pretty badly too.
>
> > ...Meaning in addition to Federer winning...everything...
>
> > --
> > "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> > singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>
> Right, figured that. For those who have kept track - what's the
> earliest point at which Fed could theoretically overtake him?

Probably Dubai ...

Nadal points now =3D 13160
Loses tomorrow in Doha =3D approx no change
Loses first round of AO =3D -900 =3D 12260
Loses first round of Dubai =3D -150 =3D 12110 (roughly, not sure of new
points)

Federer points now =3D 10610
Wins Doha =3D +400 (?) =3D 11010
Wins AO =3D +1100 =3D 12110 (roughly)
Decent result at Dubai should move him ahead

I'm not sure what the new allocations are for Doha/Dubai and there may
be some changes in how many optional events are calculated.

All pretty unlikely anyway.






 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 15:57:35
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 6, 2:28 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> TT wrote:
> > andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Jan 6, 2:10 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >>> andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Jan 6, 10:45 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
> >>>>> wants
> >>>>> to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to take his
> >>>>> Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
> >>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
> >>>> Were you expecting him to aim not to take Wimbledon back?
> >>> That one wasn't the overly confident comment, obviously.
>
> >> Just checking. ;-) Is it mathematically impossible for him to take #1
> >> back by / during IW? I haven't looked at the numbers recently.
>
> > No it's not, but Nadal would have to do pretty badly too.
>
> ...Meaning in addition to Federer winning...everything...
>
> --
> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"

Right, figured that. For those who have kept track - what's the
earliest point at which Fed could theoretically overtake him?


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 14:21:43
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 6, 2:10 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 10:45 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he wants
> >> to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to take his
> >> Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>
> >> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>
> > Were you expecting him to aim not to take Wimbledon back?
>
> That one wasn't the overly confident comment, obviously.

Just checking. ;-) Is it mathematically impossible for him to take #1
back by / during IW? I haven't looked at the numbers recently.


  
Date: 07 Jan 2009 00:27:45
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
andrew.reys@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2:10 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jan 6, 10:45 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he wants
>>>> to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to take his
>>>> Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>> Were you expecting him to aim not to take Wimbledon back?
>> That one wasn't the overly confident comment, obviously.
>
> Just checking. ;-) Is it mathematically impossible for him to take #1
> back by / during IW? I haven't looked at the numbers recently.

No it's not, but Nadal would have to do pretty badly too.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


   
Date: 07 Jan 2009 00:28:20
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
TT wrote:
> andrew.reys@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jan 6, 2:10 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>> andrew.r...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Jan 6, 10:45 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>> wants
>>>>> to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to take his
>>>>> Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>> Were you expecting him to aim not to take Wimbledon back?
>>> That one wasn't the overly confident comment, obviously.
>>
>> Just checking. ;-) Is it mathematically impossible for him to take #1
>> back by / during IW? I haven't looked at the numbers recently.
>
> No it's not, but Nadal would have to do pretty badly too.
>

...Meaning in addition to Federer winning...everything...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 13:59:12
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 6, 10:45 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he wants
> to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to take his
> Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>
> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...

Were you expecting him to aim not to take Wimbledon back?


  
Date: 07 Jan 2009 00:10:42
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
andrew.reys@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 6, 10:45 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he wants
>> to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to take his
>> Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>
>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>
> Were you expecting him to aim not to take Wimbledon back?

That one wasn't the overly confident comment, obviously.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 20:45:54
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he wants
to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to take his
Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.

Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...


  
Date: 08 Jan 2009 00:41:21
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On 8 jan, 07:08, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> kaennorsing wrote:
> > On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> >>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
> >>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
> >>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
> >>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
> >>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
> >>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
> >>> He's not poor at math,
> >> Links?
>
> >> --
> >> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> >> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>
> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...
>
> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>
> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3) and
> the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page lists...in
> addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same thing over and
> over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining from that single
> fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...
>
> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>
> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive years.
>
> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
> think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>
> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
> consecutive years.
> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>
> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
> consecutive years.
> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>
> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
> consecutive years.
> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.
>
> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
> forever...
>

Well you're at nine so far. Very impressive, but not even close to a
hundred.

I guess you're the one poor in maths ;)


   
Date: 08 Jan 2009 12:12:52
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
kaennorsing wrote:
> On 8 jan, 07:08, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>> Links?
>>>> --
>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...
>>
>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>
>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3) and
>> the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page lists...in
>> addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same thing over and
>> over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining from that single
>> fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...
>>
>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>
>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive years.
>>
>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
>> think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>
>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>> consecutive years.
>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>
>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>> consecutive years.
>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>
>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>> consecutive years.
>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.
>>
>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
>> forever...
>>
>
> Well you're at nine so far. Very impressive, but not even close to a
> hundred.
>
> I guess you're the one poor in maths ;)

Nope, actually I was best of my class.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


    
Date: 08 Jan 2009 10:22:03
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:12:52 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org > wrote:

>kaennorsing wrote:
>> On 8 jan, 07:08, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>>> Links?
>>>>> --
>>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...
>>>
>>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>>
>>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3) and
>>> the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page lists...in
>>> addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same thing over and
>>> over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining from that single
>>> fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...
>>>
>>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive years.
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
>>> think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>>> consecutive years.
>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>>> consecutive years.
>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>> consecutive years.
>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
>>> forever...
>>>
>>
>> Well you're at nine so far. Very impressive, but not even close to a
>> hundred.
>>
>> I guess you're the one poor in maths ;)
>
>Nope, actually I was best of my class.

Yeah but your class in the School for the Mentally Retarded &
Handicapped was at the bottom of their own streamed class
structure.


     
Date: 08 Jan 2009 12:42:47
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:12:52 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>> On 8 jan, 07:08, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>>>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>>>> Links?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>>>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...
>>>>
>>>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>>>
>>>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3) and
>>>> the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page lists...in
>>>> addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same thing over and
>>>> over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining from that single
>>>> fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...
>>>>
>>>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>>>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive years.
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
>>>> think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>>>> consecutive years.
>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>>>> consecutive years.
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>>> consecutive years.
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
>>>> forever...
>>>>
>>> Well you're at nine so far. Very impressive, but not even close to a
>>> hundred.
>>>
>>> I guess you're the one poor in maths ;)
>> Nope, actually I was best of my class.
>
> Yeah but your class in the School for the Mentally Retarded &
> Handicapped was at the bottom of their own streamed class
> structure.

They teach math for retards? I take your word for it, you should know
after all...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 07 Jan 2009 12:39:33
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> > In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
> > g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>
> >> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
> >> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
> >> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>
> >> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>
> > He's not poor at math,
>
> Links?
>
> --
> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer


   
Date: 08 Jan 2009 08:08:50
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
kaennorsing wrote:
> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>> He's not poor at math,
>> Links?
>>
>> --
>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer

The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...

That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...

"Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3) and
the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page lists...in
addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same thing over and
over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining from that single
fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...

I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:

Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive years.

Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)

Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
consecutive years.
Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.

Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
consecutive years.
Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.

Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
consecutive years.
Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.

Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
forever...

Here's one pearl from the page you linked:
"Federer is the only male player during the open era who was a French
Open runner-up for three consecutive years (2006-08)"


    
Date: 08 Jan 2009 21:14:07
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
TT wrote:
> kaennorsing wrote:
>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>> Links?
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>
> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...
>
> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>
> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3) and
> the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page lists...in
> addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same thing over and
> over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining from that single
> fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...
>
> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>
> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive years.
>
> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
> think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>
> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
> consecutive years.
> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>
> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
> consecutive years.
> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>
> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
> consecutive years.
> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.
>
> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
> forever...
>
> Here's one pearl from the page you linked:
> "Federer is the only male player during the open era who was a French
> Open runner-up for three consecutive years (2006-08)"



Does it mention the biggest ever flogging of a No.1 seed in a slam final?



     
Date: 09 Jan 2009 12:19:50
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 9, 6:51 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 1:41 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Jan 9, 1:07 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Jan 9, 5:03 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>> kaennorsing wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
> >>>>>>> Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
> >>>>>>> significant records;
> >>>>>>> - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
> >>>>>>> - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
> >>>>>>> - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
> >>>>>>> - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
> >>>>>>> - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
> >>>>>>> - 24 straight final wins
> >>>>>>> - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
> >>>>>>> - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
> >>>>>>> - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
> >>>>>>> - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
> >>>>>>> - reached 17 consecutive finals
> >>>>>>> - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
> >>>>>>> - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
> >>>>>>> - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
> >>>>>>> - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
> >>>>>>> - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
> >>>>>>> - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
> >>>>>>> - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
> >>>>>>> five years (2003-07)
> >>>>>>> - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
> >>>>>>> era, tied w. McEnroe)
> >>>>>>> - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
> >>>>>>> games
> >>>>>>> - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
> >>>>>>> inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
> >>>>>>> - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
> >>>>>>> each
> >>>>>>> - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
> >>>>>>> eventual champion
> >>>>>>> - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
> >>>>>>> three times.
> >>>>>>> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
> >>>>>>> records is of no consequence.
> >>>>>> None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
> >>>>>> finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or remember
> >>>>>> aside from Fedfuckers.
> >>>>> 24 straight final *wins* - it doesn't include losses at all ...
> >>>> Ok, but I believe he lost some matches in between eg semis?- Hide quoted text -
> >>> Yes - otherwise it would have been 24 straight *tournament* wins.
> >>> That's like saying Federer's 5 straight Wimbledons are devalued
> >>> because he lost at other tournaments in between ...
> >> Not really - people remember Wimbledons but couldn't give fucks about
> >> tune-ups. Proof = you couldn't name a single tune-up Laver won (without
> >> guessing) even though he won > 150.
>
> >> Suggesting you will remember Fed's but not Laver's makes the record
> >> completely invalid.-
>
> > I didn't say that. I said that the 24 final wins record is not
> > devalued by Federer losing other matches in between (since they are
> > not part of the record).
>
> > What value it has in the first place is a different question.
>
> The value is clear.
>
> You'll note Fedfuckers are very quick to highlight a record Fed has
> broken that no one previously was conscious of.

Until Sampras began approaching Emerson's mark, not too many were very
conscious of that, either. The majority of records are initially set
in this manner.


     
Date: 09 Jan 2009 12:16:53
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 8, 9:03 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> kaennorsing wrote:
> > On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>
> > Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
> > significant records;
>
> > - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
> > - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
> > - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
> > - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
> > - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
> > - 24 straight final wins
> > - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
> > - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
> > - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
> > - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
> > - reached 17 consecutive finals
> > - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
> > - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
> > - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
> > - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
> > - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
> > - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
> > - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
> > five years (2003-07)
> > - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
> > era, tied w. McEnroe)
> > - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
> > games
> > - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
> > inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
> > - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
> > each
> > - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
> > eventual champion
> > - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
> > three times.
>
> > And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
> > records is of no consequence.
>
> None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
> finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or remember
> aside from Fedfuckers. 5 straight Wim & 5 USO also aren't records as
> Sampras won 7 Wimbledons & Tilden won 6 USOs - the 'straight' is a
> qualifiier to make up for winning less gross titles (ie the real
> records) & thus not a record in the strictest sense of the word.
>
> No point going on but you get the drift - these are records for
> Fedfuckers only & not the real world.

Thanks for once again proving that you're a bitter idiot. After all,
everyone (who follows the sport) remembers Joe DiMaggio almost solely
for the fact that possess the hitting streak record - a record for
number of games in a row with a hit. Does anyone even recall who had
the most hits that year, if it wasn't Joe? Perhaps, but I rather doubt
it. Yet, everyone knows about DiMaggio.


     
Date: 09 Jan 2009 06:29:48
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 9, 1:41=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 1:07 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Jan 9, 5:03 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>> kaennorsing wrote:
> >>>>> On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
> >>>>> Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
> >>>>> significant records;
> >>>>> - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
> >>>>> - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
> >>>>> - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
> >>>>> - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
> >>>>> - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
> >>>>> - 24 straight final wins
> >>>>> - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
> >>>>> - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
> >>>>> - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
> >>>>> - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
> >>>>> - reached 17 consecutive finals
> >>>>> - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
> >>>>> - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
> >>>>> - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
> >>>>> - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
> >>>>> - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
> >>>>> - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
> >>>>> - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve i=
n
> >>>>> five years (2003-07)
> >>>>> - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (o=
pen
> >>>>> era, tied w. McEnroe)
> >>>>> - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
> >>>>> games
> >>>>> - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since th=
e
> >>>>> inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
> >>>>> - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three tim=
es
> >>>>> each
> >>>>> - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
> >>>>> eventual champion
> >>>>> - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at le=
ast
> >>>>> three times.
> >>>>> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
> >>>>> records is of no consequence.
> >>>> None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
> >>>> finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or reme=
mber
> >>>> aside from Fedfuckers.
> >>> 24 straight final *wins* - it doesn't include losses at all ...
> >> Ok, but I believe he lost some matches in between eg semis?- Hide quot=
ed text -
>
> > Yes - otherwise it would have been 24 straight *tournament* wins.
>
> > That's like saying Federer's 5 straight Wimbledons are devalued
> > because he lost at other tournaments in between ...
>
> Not really - people remember Wimbledons but couldn't give fucks about
> tune-ups. =A0Proof =3D you couldn't name a single tune-up Laver won (with=
out
> guessing) even though he won > 150.
>
> Suggesting you will remember Fed's but not Laver's makes the record
> completely invalid.-

I didn't say that. I said that the 24 final wins record is not
devalued by Federer losing other matches in between (since they are
not part of the record).

What value it has in the first place is a different question.









      
Date: 10 Jan 2009 01:51:13
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 9, 1:41 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jan 9, 1:07 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 9, 5:03 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>>>>>>> Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
>>>>>>> significant records;
>>>>>>> - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
>>>>>>> - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
>>>>>>> - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
>>>>>>> - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
>>>>>>> - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
>>>>>>> - 24 straight final wins
>>>>>>> - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
>>>>>>> - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
>>>>>>> - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
>>>>>>> - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
>>>>>>> - reached 17 consecutive finals
>>>>>>> - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
>>>>>>> - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
>>>>>>> - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
>>>>>>> - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
>>>>>>> - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
>>>>>>> - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
>>>>>>> - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
>>>>>>> five years (2003-07)
>>>>>>> - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
>>>>>>> era, tied w. McEnroe)
>>>>>>> - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>> - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
>>>>>>> inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
>>>>>>> - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>> - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
>>>>>>> eventual champion
>>>>>>> - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
>>>>>>> three times.
>>>>>>> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
>>>>>>> records is of no consequence.
>>>>>> None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
>>>>>> finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or remember
>>>>>> aside from Fedfuckers.
>>>>> 24 straight final *wins* - it doesn't include losses at all ...
>>>> Ok, but I believe he lost some matches in between eg semis?- Hide quoted text -
>>> Yes - otherwise it would have been 24 straight *tournament* wins.
>>> That's like saying Federer's 5 straight Wimbledons are devalued
>>> because he lost at other tournaments in between ...
>> Not really - people remember Wimbledons but couldn't give fucks about
>> tune-ups. Proof = you couldn't name a single tune-up Laver won (without
>> guessing) even though he won > 150.
>>
>> Suggesting you will remember Fed's but not Laver's makes the record
>> completely invalid.-
>
> I didn't say that. I said that the 24 final wins record is not
> devalued by Federer losing other matches in between (since they are
> not part of the record).
>
> What value it has in the first place is a different question.
>
>
>


The value is clear.

You'll note Fedfuckers are very quick to highlight a record Fed has
broken that no one previously was conscious of.

Who knew or cared what the previous finals record was?

It's silly to suddenly start caring just because Fed broke it - & the
truth is we didn't care who held it before Fed or that Fed holds it now
- only Fedfuckers do & they are of no consequence.

There's your answer.


     
Date: 09 Jan 2009 05:34:03
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 9, 1:07=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 5:03 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> kaennorsing wrote:
> >>> On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >>>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
> >>> Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
> >>> significant records;
> >>> - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
> >>> - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
> >>> - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
> >>> - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
> >>> - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
> >>> - 24 straight final wins
> >>> - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
> >>> - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
> >>> - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
> >>> - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
> >>> - reached 17 consecutive finals
> >>> - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
> >>> - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
> >>> - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
> >>> - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
> >>> - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
> >>> - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
> >>> - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
> >>> five years (2003-07)
> >>> - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (ope=
n
> >>> era, tied w. McEnroe)
> >>> - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
> >>> games
> >>> - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
> >>> inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
> >>> - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
> >>> each
> >>> - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
> >>> eventual champion
> >>> - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at leas=
t
> >>> three times.
> >>> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
> >>> records is of no consequence.
> >> None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
> >> finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or rememb=
er
> >> aside from Fedfuckers.
>
> > 24 straight final *wins* - it doesn't include losses at all ...
>
> Ok, but I believe he lost some matches in between eg semis?- Hide quoted =
text -

Yes - otherwise it would have been 24 straight *tournament* wins.

That's like saying Federer's 5 straight Wimbledons are devalued
because he lost at other tournaments in between ...





      
Date: 10 Jan 2009 00:41:02
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 9, 1:07 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jan 9, 5:03 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>>> On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>>>>> Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
>>>>> significant records;
>>>>> - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
>>>>> - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
>>>>> - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
>>>>> - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
>>>>> - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
>>>>> - 24 straight final wins
>>>>> - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
>>>>> - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
>>>>> - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
>>>>> - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
>>>>> - reached 17 consecutive finals
>>>>> - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
>>>>> - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
>>>>> - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
>>>>> - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
>>>>> - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
>>>>> - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
>>>>> - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
>>>>> five years (2003-07)
>>>>> - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
>>>>> era, tied w. McEnroe)
>>>>> - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
>>>>> games
>>>>> - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
>>>>> inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
>>>>> - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
>>>>> each
>>>>> - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
>>>>> eventual champion
>>>>> - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
>>>>> three times.
>>>>> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
>>>>> records is of no consequence.
>>>> None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
>>>> finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or remember
>>>> aside from Fedfuckers.
>>> 24 straight final *wins* - it doesn't include losses at all ...
>> Ok, but I believe he lost some matches in between eg semis?- Hide quoted text -
>
> Yes - otherwise it would have been 24 straight *tournament* wins.
>
> That's like saying Federer's 5 straight Wimbledons are devalued
> because he lost at other tournaments in between ...
>
>
>


Not really - people remember Wimbledons but couldn't give fucks about
tune-ups. Proof = you couldn't name a single tune-up Laver won (without
guessing) even though he won > 150.

Suggesting you will remember Fed's but not Laver's makes the record
completely invalid.





     
Date: 09 Jan 2009 02:59:02
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
> > And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
> > records is of no consequence.
>
> Consecutive + combined + losses in finals etc...and only in open era.
> Those are not records but rather only statistics.
>

No, they are records, since no-one else has done better.

How important they are is a different question.



      
Date: 10 Jan 2009 00:09:12
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
>>> records is of no consequence.
>> Consecutive + combined + losses in finals etc...and only in open era.
>> Those are not records but rather only statistics.
>>
>
> No, they are records, since no-one else has done better.
>
> How important they are is a different question.
>


It's not a real record if you won 24 finals in a row but suffered losses
in earlier rounds within that streak.

That's pure Fedfuckery & has no legacy currency.





     
Date: 09 Jan 2009 02:56:41
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 9, 5:03=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> kaennorsing wrote:
> > On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>
> > Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
> > significant records;
>
> > - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
> > - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
> > - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
> > - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
> > - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
> > - 24 straight final wins
> > - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
> > - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
> > - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
> > - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
> > - reached 17 consecutive finals
> > - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
> > - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
> > - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
> > - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
> > - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
> > - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
> > - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
> > five years (2003-07)
> > - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
> > era, tied w. McEnroe)
> > - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
> > games
> > - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
> > inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
> > - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
> > each
> > - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
> > eventual champion
> > - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
> > three times.
>
> > And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
> > records is of no consequence.
>
> None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
> finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or remember
> aside from Fedfuckers.

24 straight final *wins* - it doesn't include losses at all ...





      
Date: 10 Jan 2009 00:07:18
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 9, 5:03 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>> On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>>> Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
>>> significant records;
>>> - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
>>> - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
>>> - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
>>> - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
>>> - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
>>> - 24 straight final wins
>>> - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
>>> - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
>>> - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
>>> - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
>>> - reached 17 consecutive finals
>>> - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
>>> - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
>>> - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
>>> - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
>>> - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
>>> - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
>>> - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
>>> five years (2003-07)
>>> - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
>>> era, tied w. McEnroe)
>>> - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
>>> games
>>> - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
>>> inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
>>> - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
>>> each
>>> - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
>>> eventual champion
>>> - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
>>> three times.
>>> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
>>> records is of no consequence.
>> None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
>> finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or remember
>> aside from Fedfuckers.
>
> 24 straight final *wins* - it doesn't include losses at all ...
>
>
>


Ok, but I believe he lost some matches in between eg semis?


     
Date: 08 Jan 2009 15:21:39
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 8, 6:11=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> kaennorsing wrote:
> > On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au=
>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.=
au >
> >>>>>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's nev=
er
> >>>>>> even been pushed to 5 sets.
> >>>>>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
> >>>>> Huh ?
> >>>>> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
> >>>>> Sampras 0 !
> >>>>> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statist=
ics
> >>>>> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No=
?
> >>>>> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
> >>>>> terms of "greatness".
> >>>>> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.
> >>>> Same as Fed.
> >>> Your lack of tennis knowledge becomes you.
> >>> I'll let others fill you in .....
> >> Please fill us in, what tournament records again did Federer hold? Sin=
ce
> >> when have these tournaments being played?
>
> >> Maybe he has won most tournaments?
>
> >> Perhaps he has most weeks at #1 then?
>
> >> Perhaps he has some surface streak greater than 71?
>
> >> Maybe he has consecutive wins record?
>
> >> Perhaps best career winning percentage?
>
> >> ...nope, can't be since Nadal has already better...actually none of th=
e
> >> above...but I'm sure he has some records then?
>
> >> Hamburg, that has a long history...nope...Von Cramm & pals won it 6+ t=
imes.
>
> >> Now I remember:
>
> >> Most (4) titles in DUBAI (since 1993)
> >> Most (5) titles in HALLE (since 1993)
>
> >> Are these the IMPORTANT titles you were talking about Dave? Now surely
> >> Nadal's two records are inferior to PRESTIGE of these ALL TIME records=
?!
>
> >> Also Federer has 66 streak on grass...would be best on Open Era, not a=
ll
> >> time though.
>
> > It's 65 and not *would be* but *is*. BTW who has the all-time grass
> > streak then?
>
> My guess would be Bill Tilden, he was about unbeatable for several years
> and probably played all on grass.
>
>
>
> >> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>
> > Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
> > significant records;
>
> > - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
> > - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
>
> I missed that then if it's truly a record. But notice the word
> consecutive in most of your "records". It doesn't matter whether you win
> your titles consecutive or not, it's the total of titles that counts.
>
> Nadal has all surface record of 81 though...but still a "consecutive".
>
> > - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
> > - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
> > - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
> > - 24 straight final wins
> > - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
> > - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
> > - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
> > - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
> > - reached 17 consecutive finals
> > - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
> > - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
>
> Combined. Not a record.
>
>
>
>
>
> > - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
> > - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
> > - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
> > - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
> > - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
> > five years (2003-07)
> > - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
> > era, tied w. McEnroe)
> > - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
> > games
> > - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
> > inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
> > - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
> > each
> > - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
> > eventual champion
> > - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
> > three times.
>
> > And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
> > records is of no consequence.
>
> Consecutive + combined + losses in finals etc...and only in open era.
> Those are not records but rather only statistics.

It would be surprising if he did have some major record considering
he's only been a Slam champion for less than 6 years.

Pete won Slams over a 12 year span. Becker over a 10 1/2 year span.
Agassi over a 10 1/2 year span.

Granted, they started younger than Fed also.


     
Date: 08 Jan 2009 12:47:57
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> >>>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
> >>>> even been pushed to 5 sets.
>
> >>>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>
> >>> Huh ?
>
> >>> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
> >>> Sampras 0 !
>
> >>> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
> >>> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?
>
> >>> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
> >>> terms of "greatness".
>
> >>> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.
>
> >> Same as Fed.
>
> > Your lack of tennis knowledge becomes you.
>
> > I'll let others fill you in .....
>
> Please fill us in, what tournament records again did Federer hold? Since
> when have these tournaments being played?
>
> Maybe he has won most tournaments?
>
> Perhaps he has most weeks at #1 then?
>
> Perhaps he has some surface streak greater than 71?
>
> Maybe he has consecutive wins record?
>
> Perhaps best career winning percentage?
>
> ...nope, can't be since Nadal has already better...actually none of the
> above...but I'm sure he has some records then?
>
> Hamburg, that has a long history...nope...Von Cramm & pals won it 6+ times.
>
> Now I remember:
>
> Most (4) titles in DUBAI (since 1993)
> Most (5) titles in HALLE (since 1993)
>
> Are these the IMPORTANT titles you were talking about Dave? Now surely
> Nadal's two records are inferior to PRESTIGE of these ALL TIME records?!
>
> Also Federer has 66 streak on grass...would be best on Open Era, not all
> time though.

It's 65 and not *would be* but *is*. BTW who has the all-time grass
streak then?

> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.

Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
significant records;

- 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
- 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
- No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
- 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
- 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
- 24 straight final wins
- 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
- won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
- reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
- reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
- reached 17 consecutive finals
- beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
- three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
- 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
- 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
- won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
- six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
- won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
five years (2003-07)
- won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
era, tied w. McEnroe)
- Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
games
- best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
- three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
each
- 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
eventual champion
- appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
three times.

And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
records is of no consequence.


      
Date: 09 Jan 2009 16:03:50
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
kaennorsing wrote:
> On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>
> Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
> significant records;
>
> - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
> - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
> - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
> - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
> - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
> - 24 straight final wins
> - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
> - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
> - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
> - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
> - reached 17 consecutive finals
> - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
> - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
> - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
> - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
> - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
> - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
> - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
> five years (2003-07)
> - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
> era, tied w. McEnroe)
> - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
> games
> - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
> inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
> - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
> each
> - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
> eventual champion
> - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
> three times.
>
> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
> records is of no consequence.


None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or remember
aside from Fedfuckers. 5 straight Wim & 5 USO also aren't records as
Sampras won 7 Wimbledons & Tilden won 6 USOs - the 'straight' is a
qualifiier to make up for winning less gross titles (ie the real
records) & thus not a record in the strictest sense of the word.

No point going on but you get the drift - these are records for
Fedfuckers only & not the real world.





       
Date: 09 Jan 2009 08:59:45
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Whisper wrote:
> kaennorsing wrote:
>> On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>>
>> Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
>> significant records;
>>
>> - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
>> - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
>> - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
>> - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
>> - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
>> - 24 straight final wins
>> - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
>> - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
>> - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
>> - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
>> - reached 17 consecutive finals
>> - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
>> - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
>> - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
>> - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
>> - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
>> - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
>> - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
>> five years (2003-07)
>> - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
>> era, tied w. McEnroe)
>> - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
>> games
>> - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
>> inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
>> - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
>> each
>> - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
>> eventual champion
>> - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
>> three times.
>>
>> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
>> records is of no consequence.
>
>
> None of these are records as they are all qualified - eg 24 straight
> finals includes losses so not a record that anyone will care or remember
> aside from Fedfuckers. 5 straight Wim & 5 USO also aren't records as
> Sampras won 7 Wimbledons & Tilden won 6 USOs - the 'straight' is a
> qualifiier to make up for winning less gross titles (ie the real
> records) & thus not a record in the strictest sense of the word.
>
> No point going on but you get the drift - these are records for
> Fedfuckers only & not the real world.
>
>
>

Tilden won 7 USOs, 6 of them in a row.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


      
Date: 09 Jan 2009 01:11:10
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
kaennorsing wrote:
> On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
>>>>>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
>>>>>> even been pushed to 5 sets.
>>>>>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>>>>> Huh ?
>>>>> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
>>>>> Sampras 0 !
>>>>> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
>>>>> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?
>>>>> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
>>>>> terms of "greatness".
>>>>> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.
>>>> Same as Fed.
>>> Your lack of tennis knowledge becomes you.
>>> I'll let others fill you in .....
>> Please fill us in, what tournament records again did Federer hold? Since
>> when have these tournaments being played?
>>
>> Maybe he has won most tournaments?
>>
>> Perhaps he has most weeks at #1 then?
>>
>> Perhaps he has some surface streak greater than 71?
>>
>> Maybe he has consecutive wins record?
>>
>> Perhaps best career winning percentage?
>>
>> ...nope, can't be since Nadal has already better...actually none of the
>> above...but I'm sure he has some records then?
>>
>> Hamburg, that has a long history...nope...Von Cramm & pals won it 6+ times.
>>
>> Now I remember:
>>
>> Most (4) titles in DUBAI (since 1993)
>> Most (5) titles in HALLE (since 1993)
>>
>> Are these the IMPORTANT titles you were talking about Dave? Now surely
>> Nadal's two records are inferior to PRESTIGE of these ALL TIME records?!
>>
>> Also Federer has 66 streak on grass...would be best on Open Era, not all
>> time though.
>
> It's 65 and not *would be* but *is*. BTW who has the all-time grass
> streak then?

My guess would be Bill Tilden, he was about unbeatable for several years
and probably played all on grass.

>
>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>
> Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
> significant records;
>
> - 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
> - 56 consecutive wins on hard courts

I missed that then if it's truly a record. But notice the word
consecutive in most of your "records". It doesn't matter whether you win
your titles consecutive or not, it's the total of titles that counts.

Nadal has all surface record of 81 though...but still a "consecutive".

> - No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
> - 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
> - 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
> - 24 straight final wins
> - 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
> - won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
> - reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
> - reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
> - reached 17 consecutive finals
> - beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
> - three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times

Combined. Not a record.

> - 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
> - 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
> - won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
> - six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
> - won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
> five years (2003-07)
> - won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
> era, tied w. McEnroe)
> - Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
> games
> - best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
> inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
> - three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
> each
> - 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
> eventual champion
> - appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
> three times.
>
> And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
> records is of no consequence.

Consecutive + combined + losses in finals etc...and only in open era.
Those are not records but rather only statistics.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


      
Date: 09 Jan 2009 00:02:47
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:47:57 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
<ljubitsis@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> > On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
>> >>>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
>> >>>> even been pushed to 5 sets.
>>
>> >>>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>>
>> >>> Huh ?
>>
>> >>> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
>> >>> Sampras 0 !
>>
>> >>> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
>> >>> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?
>>
>> >>> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
>> >>> terms of "greatness".
>>
>> >>> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.
>>
>> >> Same as Fed.
>>
>> > Your lack of tennis knowledge becomes you.
>>
>> > I'll let others fill you in .....
>>
>> Please fill us in, what tournament records again did Federer hold? Since
>> when have these tournaments being played?
>>
>> Maybe he has won most tournaments?
>>
>> Perhaps he has most weeks at #1 then?
>>
>> Perhaps he has some surface streak greater than 71?
>>
>> Maybe he has consecutive wins record?
>>
>> Perhaps best career winning percentage?
>>
>> ...nope, can't be since Nadal has already better...actually none of the
>> above...but I'm sure he has some records then?
>>
>> Hamburg, that has a long history...nope...Von Cramm & pals won it 6+ times.
>>
>> Now I remember:
>>
>> Most (4) titles in DUBAI (since 1993)
>> Most (5) titles in HALLE (since 1993)
>>
>> Are these the IMPORTANT titles you were talking about Dave? Now surely
>> Nadal's two records are inferior to PRESTIGE of these ALL TIME records?!
>>
>> Also Federer has 66 streak on grass...would be best on Open Era, not all
>> time though.
>
>It's 65 and not *would be* but *is*. BTW who has the all-time grass
>streak then?
>
>> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>
>Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
>significant records;
>
>- 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
>- 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
>- No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
>- 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
>- 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
>- 24 straight final wins
>- 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
>- won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
>- reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
>- reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
>- reached 17 consecutive finals
>- beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
>- three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
>- 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
>- 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
>- won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
>- six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
>- won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
>five years (2003-07)
>- won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
>era, tied w. McEnroe)
>- Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
>games

Is that a fact? Do you know when and against who? Interesting that
none of the huge servers doesn't have that record.

>- best three-year match and tournament winning percentages since the
>inception of the ATP rankings in 1973.
>- three different Grand Slam singles tournaments at least three times
>each
>- 18 consecutive Grand Slams being either champion or losing to
>eventual champion
>- appeared in the final of each Grand Slam singles tournament at least
>three times.
>
>And - as you know - what you, Whimper or anyone else think of these
>records is of no consequence.



     
Date: 08 Jan 2009 12:20:29
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Whisper wrote:
> TT wrote:
>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>> Links?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>>
>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...
>>
>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>
>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3)
>> and the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page
>> lists...in addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same
>> thing over and over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining
>> from that single fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...
>>
>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>
>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive
>> years.
>>
>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
>> think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>
>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>> consecutive years.
>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>
>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>> consecutive years.
>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>
>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>> consecutive years.
>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.
>>
>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
>> forever...
>>
>> Here's one pearl from the page you linked:
>> "Federer is the only male player during the open era who was a French
>> Open runner-up for three consecutive years (2006-08)"
>
>
>
> Does it mention the biggest ever flogging of a No.1 seed in a slam final?
>

I guess that should go to Nadal's records...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


      
Date: 08 Jan 2009 10:24:36
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:20:29 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org > wrote:

>Whisper wrote:
>> TT wrote:
>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>>> Links?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>>>
>>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...
>>>
>>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>>
>>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3)
>>> and the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page
>>> lists...in addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same
>>> thing over and over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining
>>> from that single fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...
>>>
>>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
>>> think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>>> consecutive years.
>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>>> consecutive years.
>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>> consecutive years.
>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.
>>>
>>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
>>> forever...
>>>
>>> Here's one pearl from the page you linked:
>>> "Federer is the only male player during the open era who was a French
>>> Open runner-up for three consecutive years (2006-08)"
>>
>>
>>
>> Does it mention the biggest ever flogging of a No.1 seed in a slam final?
>>
>
>I guess that should go to Nadal's records...


What records ? He doesn't have any.


       
Date: 08 Jan 2009 12:46:08
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:20:29 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
>> Whisper wrote:
>>> TT wrote:
>>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>>>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>>>> Links?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>>>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...
>>>>
>>>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>>>
>>>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3)
>>>> and the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page
>>>> lists...in addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same
>>>> thing over and over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining
>>>> from that single fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...
>>>>
>>>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>>>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
>>>> think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>>>> consecutive years.
>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>>>> consecutive years.
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>>> consecutive years.
>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.
>>>>
>>>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
>>>> forever...
>>>>
>>>> Here's one pearl from the page you linked:
>>>> "Federer is the only male player during the open era who was a French
>>>> Open runner-up for three consecutive years (2006-08)"
>>>
>>>
>>> Does it mention the biggest ever flogging of a No.1 seed in a slam final?
>>>
>> I guess that should go to Nadal's records...
>
>
> What records ? He doesn't have any.

Currently he has most Barcelona titles I believe. In the future most
Monte Carlo, Rome and Roland Garros titles perhaps. And we're talking
about records on tournaments that have been there for nearly or over
hundred years...not tournaments that began in the 90's...

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


        
Date: 08 Jan 2009 14:36:19
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On 8 jan, 23:02, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:47:57 -0800 (PST), kaennorsing
>
>
>
> <ljubit...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On 8 jan, 13:53, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> >> >>>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
> >> >>>> even been pushed to 5 sets.
>
> >> >>>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>
> >> >>> Huh ?
>
> >> >>> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
> >> >>> Sampras 0 !
>
> >> >>> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
> >> >>> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?
>
> >> >>> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
> >> >>> terms of "greatness".
>
> >> >>> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.
>
> >> >> Same as Fed.
>
> >> > Your lack of tennis knowledge becomes you.
>
> >> > I'll let others fill you in .....
>
> >> Please fill us in, what tournament records again did Federer hold? Since
> >> when have these tournaments being played?
>
> >> Maybe he has won most tournaments?
>
> >> Perhaps he has most weeks at #1 then?
>
> >> Perhaps he has some surface streak greater than 71?
>
> >> Maybe he has consecutive wins record?
>
> >> Perhaps best career winning percentage?
>
> >> ...nope, can't be since Nadal has already better...actually none of the
> >> above...but I'm sure he has some records then?
>
> >> Hamburg, that has a long history...nope...Von Cramm & pals won it 6+ times.
>
> >> Now I remember:
>
> >> Most (4) titles in DUBAI (since 1993)
> >> Most (5) titles in HALLE (since 1993)
>
> >> Are these the IMPORTANT titles you were talking about Dave? Now surely
> >> Nadal's two records are inferior to PRESTIGE of these ALL TIME records?!
>
> >> Also Federer has 66 streak on grass...would be best on Open Era, not all
> >> time though.
>
> >It's 65 and not *would be* but *is*. BTW who has the all-time grass
> >streak then?
>
> >> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>
> >Because you can't think very well. These are some of the most
> >significant records;
>
> >- 65 consecutive wins on grass (the only one you remember...)
> >- 56 consecutive wins on hard courts
> >- No. 1 for 237 consecutive weeks
> >- 5 consecutive US Open titles (open era)
> >- 34 consecutive matches at US Open (open era)
> >- 24 straight final wins
> >- 26 consecutive wins against top ten ranked opponents
> >- won five successive titles at two different Grand Slam events
> >- reached ten consecutive Grand Slam singles finals
> >- reached eighteen consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals
> >- reached 17 consecutive finals
> >- beat 10 different players in Grand Slam singles finals
> >- three Grand Slam titles in a calendar year three different times
> >- 2+ Grand Slam titles per year for 4 consecutive years.
> >- 36 consecutive Grand Slam singles set won
> >- won first seven Grand Slam singles finals
> >- six Grand Slam titles in seven attempts (tied w. Laver)
> >- won eight Grand Slam titles in three years (2005-07) and twelve in
> >five years (2003-07)
> >- won 11 consecutive Grand Slam singles matches in straight sets (open
> >era, tied w. McEnroe)
> >- Grand Slam record of 35 consecutive points won on his own service
> >games
>
> Is that a fact? Do you know when and against who? Interesting that
> none of the huge servers doesn't have that record.

Against Lopez at USO '07.


        
Date: 08 Jan 2009 11:57:49
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:46:08 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org > wrote:

>Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:20:29 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>> TT wrote:
>>>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>>>>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>>>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>>>>> Links?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>>>>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and Hamburg...
>>>>>
>>>>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3)
>>>>> and the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page
>>>>> lists...in addition to coming up with around 30 records for the same
>>>>> thing over and over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and combining
>>>>> from that single fact one can come up with so many magnificent records...
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>>>>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive
>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times. (I
>>>>> think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4 times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
>>>>> forever...
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one pearl from the page you linked:
>>>>> "Federer is the only male player during the open era who was a French
>>>>> Open runner-up for three consecutive years (2006-08)"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does it mention the biggest ever flogging of a No.1 seed in a slam final?
>>>>
>>> I guess that should go to Nadal's records...
>>
>>
>> What records ? He doesn't have any.
>
>Currently he has most Barcelona titles I believe. In the future most
>Monte Carlo, Rome and Roland Garros titles perhaps. And we're talking
>about records on tournaments that have been there for nearly or over
>hundred years...not tournaments that began in the 90's...


We are talking about NOW.

He has NONE.

None worth mentioning anyway (like Barcelona).


        
Date: 08 Jan 2009 13:27:18
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
TT wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:20:29 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>> TT wrote:
>>>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>>>>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he
>>>>>>>>> aims to
>>>>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary
>>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>>>>> Links?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>>>>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and
>>>>> Hamburg...
>>>>>
>>>>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open (3)
>>>>> and the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page
>>>>> lists...in addition to coming up with around 30 records for the
>>>>> same thing over and over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and
>>>>> combining from that single fact one can come up with so many
>>>>> magnificent records...
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>>>>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4 consecutive
>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times.
>>>>> (I think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>>>> times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go on
>>>>> forever...
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one pearl from the page you linked:
>>>>> "Federer is the only male player during the open era who was a
>>>>> French Open runner-up for three consecutive years (2006-08)"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does it mention the biggest ever flogging of a No.1 seed in a slam
>>>> final?
>>>>
>>> I guess that should go to Nadal's records...
>>
>>
>> What records ? He doesn't have any.
>
> Currently he has most Barcelona titles I believe. In the future most
> Monte Carlo, Rome and Roland Garros titles perhaps. And we're talking
> about records on tournaments that have been there for nearly or over
> hundred years...not tournaments that began in the 90's...
>

I checked.
Nadal has ALREADY 2 ALL TIME records, at the age of fucking 22!

-Most (3) titles in ROME (since 1930), shares with 3 other
players(Thomas Muster, Marty Mulligan, Jaroslav Drobny)

-Most(4) titles in BARCELONA (since 1953)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Masters#Men.27s_singles_finals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Seat#Singles


         
Date: 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
TT wrote:
> TT wrote:
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:20:29 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>>> TT wrote:
>>>>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying
>>>>>>>>>> that he
>>>>>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he
>>>>>>>>>> aims to
>>>>>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary
>>>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>>>>>> Links?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>>>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for
>>>>>>>> Switzerland"
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>>>>>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and
>>>>>> Hamburg...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open
>>>>>> (3) and the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page
>>>>>> lists...in addition to coming up with around 30 records for the
>>>>>> same thing over and over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and
>>>>>> combining from that single fact one can come up with so many
>>>>>> magnificent records...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>>>>>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4
>>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times.
>>>>>> (I think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go
>>>>>> on forever...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's one pearl from the page you linked:
>>>>>> "Federer is the only male player during the open era who was a
>>>>>> French Open runner-up for three consecutive years (2006-08)"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does it mention the biggest ever flogging of a No.1 seed in a slam
>>>>> final?
>>>>>
>>>> I guess that should go to Nadal's records...
>>>
>>>
>>> What records ? He doesn't have any.
>>
>> Currently he has most Barcelona titles I believe. In the future most
>> Monte Carlo, Rome and Roland Garros titles perhaps. And we're talking
>> about records on tournaments that have been there for nearly or over
>> hundred years...not tournaments that began in the 90's...
>>
>
> I checked.
> Nadal has ALREADY 2 ALL TIME records, at the age of fucking 22!
>
> -Most (3) titles in ROME (since 1930), shares with 3 other
> players(Thomas Muster, Marty Mulligan, Jaroslav Drobny)
>
> -Most(4) titles in BARCELONA (since 1953)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Masters#Men.27s_singles_finals
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Seat#Singles


It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
even been pushed to 5 sets.

Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.





          
Date: 08 Jan 2009 12:02:32
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>TT wrote:
>> TT wrote:
>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:20:29 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Whisper wrote:
>>>>>> TT wrote:
>>>>>>> kaennorsing wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7 jan, 20:35, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
>>>>>>>>>> g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying
>>>>>>>>>>> that he
>>>>>>>>>>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he
>>>>>>>>>>> aims to
>>>>>>>>>>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary
>>>>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>>>>>>>>>> He's not poor at math,
>>>>>>>>> Links?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>>>>>>>>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for
>>>>>>>>> Switzerland"
>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_held_by_Roger_Federer
>>>>>>> The fact is that Federer only have couple records, Halle and
>>>>>>> Hamburg...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That page is so full of fedfucking that it's not even possible...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Federer is undefeated in singles finals at the Australian Open
>>>>>>> (3) and the US Open (5)" ...one example of "records" that the page
>>>>>>> lists...in addition to coming up with around 30 records for the
>>>>>>> same thing over and over again...Yes Federer had 3 slam years and
>>>>>>> combining from that single fact one can come up with so many
>>>>>>> magnificent records...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess I could come up with around 100 records from NADAL'S clay
>>>>>>> success and other tournaments if I began *combining* tournament wins:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have ever won Monte Carlo in 4
>>>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nadal is the only one in Open Era to have won Monte Carlo 4 times.
>>>>>>> (I think Tony Wilding won it total of 4 or 5 times)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3
>>>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>>>> Nadal is the only only one to have won Monte Carlo and Rome 3 times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4
>>>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Barcelona 4 times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>>>>>> consecutive years.
>>>>>>> Nadal is the only one to have won Monte Carlo and Roland Garros 4
>>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nadal is the only one having won Barcelona and Rome...I could go
>>>>>>> on forever...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's one pearl from the page you linked:
>>>>>>> "Federer is the only male player during the open era who was a
>>>>>>> French Open runner-up for three consecutive years (2006-08)"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it mention the biggest ever flogging of a No.1 seed in a slam
>>>>>> final?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I guess that should go to Nadal's records...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What records ? He doesn't have any.
>>>
>>> Currently he has most Barcelona titles I believe. In the future most
>>> Monte Carlo, Rome and Roland Garros titles perhaps. And we're talking
>>> about records on tournaments that have been there for nearly or over
>>> hundred years...not tournaments that began in the 90's...
>>>
>>
>> I checked.
>> Nadal has ALREADY 2 ALL TIME records, at the age of fucking 22!
>>
>> -Most (3) titles in ROME (since 1930), shares with 3 other
>> players(Thomas Muster, Marty Mulligan, Jaroslav Drobny)
>>
>> -Most(4) titles in BARCELONA (since 1953)
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Masters#Men.27s_singles_finals
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Seat#Singles
>
>
>It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
>even been pushed to 5 sets.
>
>Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>
>

Huh ?

It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
Sampras 0 !

All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?

The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
terms of "greatness".

NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.


           
Date: 08 Jan 2009 14:32:21
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
TT wrote:
>>>
>>> -Most (3) titles in ROME (since 1930), shares with 3 other
>>> players(Thomas Muster, Marty Mulligan, Jaroslav Drobny)
>>>
>>> -Most(4) titles in BARCELONA (since 1953)
>>>

> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
> terms of "greatness".
>
> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be one of your strengths.


--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


           
Date: 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
>> even been pushed to 5 sets.
>>
>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>>
>>
>
> Huh ?
>
> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
> Sampras 0 !
>
> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?
>
> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
> terms of "greatness".
>
> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.



Same as Fed.



            
Date: 08 Jan 2009 12:13:30
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
>>> even been pushed to 5 sets.
>>>
>>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Huh ?
>>
>> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
>> Sampras 0 !
>>
>> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
>> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?
>>
>> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
>> terms of "greatness".
>>
>> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.
>
>
>
>Same as Fed.


Your lack of tennis knowledge becomes you.

I'll let others fill you in .....


             
Date: 08 Jan 2009 14:53:44
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
>>>> even been pushed to 5 sets.
>>>>
>>>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Huh ?
>>>
>>> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
>>> Sampras 0 !
>>>
>>> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
>>> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?
>>>
>>> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
>>> terms of "greatness".
>>>
>>> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.
>>
>>
>> Same as Fed.
>
>
> Your lack of tennis knowledge becomes you.
>
> I'll let others fill you in .....

Please fill us in, what tournament records again did Federer hold? Since
when have these tournaments being played?

Maybe he has won most tournaments?

Perhaps he has most weeks at #1 then?

Perhaps he has some surface streak greater than 71?

Maybe he has consecutive wins record?

Perhaps best career winning percentage?

...nope, can't be since Nadal has already better...actually none of the
above...but I'm sure he has some records then?

Hamburg, that has a long history...nope...Von Cramm & pals won it 6+ times.

Now I remember:

Most (4) titles in DUBAI (since 1993)
Most (5) titles in HALLE (since 1993)

Are these the IMPORTANT titles you were talking about Dave? Now surely
Nadal's two records are inferior to PRESTIGE of these ALL TIME records?!

Also Federer has 66 streak on grass...would be best on Open Era, not all
time though.

I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.

He has a chance to win most major titles on Open Era though (since 1968).


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Date: 09 Jan 2009 05:39:42
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
TT wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>>>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's
>>>>> never even been pushed to 5 sets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Huh ?
>>>>
>>>> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
>>>> Sampras 0 !
>>>>
>>>> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
>>>> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?
>>>>
>>>> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
>>>> terms of "greatness".
>>>>
>>>> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.
>>>
>>>
>>> Same as Fed.
>>
>>
>> Your lack of tennis knowledge becomes you.
>>
>> I'll let others fill you in .....
>
> Please fill us in, what tournament records again did Federer hold? Since
> when have these tournaments being played?
>
> Maybe he has won most tournaments?
>
> Perhaps he has most weeks at #1 then?
>
> Perhaps he has some surface streak greater than 71?
>
> Maybe he has consecutive wins record?
>
> Perhaps best career winning percentage?
>
> ...nope, can't be since Nadal has already better...actually none of the
> above...but I'm sure he has some records then?
>
> Hamburg, that has a long history...nope...Von Cramm & pals won it 6+ times.
>
> Now I remember:
>
> Most (4) titles in DUBAI (since 1993)
> Most (5) titles in HALLE (since 1993)
>
> Are these the IMPORTANT titles you were talking about Dave? Now surely
> Nadal's two records are inferior to PRESTIGE of these ALL TIME records?!
>
> Also Federer has 66 streak on grass...would be best on Open Era, not all
> time though.
>
> I can't think any other records for Roger at the age of 27.
>
> He has a chance to win most major titles on Open Era though (since 1968).
>
>


I'm not certain, but I believe he's using Sampras' 3 losses in 1st rd of
FO (same as Fed) to convert Fed's achievements to all time records - I
don't wanna see the math on those.



             
Date: 08 Jan 2009 23:23:23
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:04:48 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:35:40 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>>>> It's also remarkable he's never lost a match at FO - heck he's never
>>>> even been pushed to 5 sets.
>>>>
>>>> Only 1 guy has won more FO's - that's amazing given he's only 22.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Huh ?
>>>
>>> It's also just as amazing that Federer has made 3 FO' finals and
>>> Sampras 0 !
>>>
>>> All of a sudden whispy is resorting to second bests and set statistics
>>> to make his case to denigrate Federer ? I thought he was a fan ? No ?
>>>
>>> The fact is that Rafa holds NO records. None, worth mentioning in
>>> terms of "greatness".
>>>
>>> NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZEPHER. ZILCH.
>>
>>
>> Same as Fed.
>
>
> Your lack of tennis knowledge becomes you.
>
> I'll let others fill you in .....



My bad - I fogot;

13 slams > 14
5 Wimbledons > 7
4 yr-end No.1 > 6 yr-end No.1


  
Date: 07 Jan 2009 12:04:24
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
On Jan 7, 7:35=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> > In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88...@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
> > g...@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>
> >> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
> >> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
> >> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>
> >> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>
> > He's not poor at math,
>
> Links?

He knows that an 11th Wimbledon > 1 FO ... :-)





  
Date: 07 Jan 2009 11:35:36
From:
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88855@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi >,
gold@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:

>
> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>
> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...


He's not poor at math, and I suspect he's quite right that it's possible.
Nadal isn't as strong on hard courts - that's no secret. And wins and
finals count for more proportionately than they did last year, so if he
were to win the AO and IW that would push his points total much higher
than it would using last year's table. So I imagine- though I haven't
checked - that it is in fact possible.

wg


   
Date: 07 Jan 2009 21:35:06
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal sounding confident for the new season
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article <CFN8l.115048$_03.88855@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
> gold@Olympics.org (TT) wrote:
>
>> Oh and meanwhile Federer sounds overly? confident...saying that he
>> wants to take #1 back around Indian Wells. And also that he aims to
>> take his Wimbledon back. This according to tennis commentary today.
>>
>> Of course could be that he's just poor at maths...
>
>
> He's not poor at math,

Links?


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"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"