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Date: 24 Jan 2009 05:03:56
From: Wayne
Subject: Nadal v Haas
Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
draw but it should be a lot easier now that Gonzo, his opponent in the
R16, has just played a 4 hour match against Gasquet. Rafa should be OK
against him. The QF will be a pretty tough grind though against either
Simon or Monfils, but again I'd tip Rafa to come through.

Really wouldn't like to call a Murray v Rafa SF, but I'd expect Fed to
come through his side of the draw to meet either of them in the final.
Djokovic will probably be in the SF too, but he has been the least
impressive of the "big 4" so far.





 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 07:57:45
From: Adam Thirnis
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
On Jan 24, 3:29=A0pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 24 Jan, 14:59, Adam Thirnis <adam.thir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 24, 1:03=A0pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked i=
n
> > > Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just t=
o
> > > avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a toug=
h
> > > draw
>
> > what? no top 70 player for first 3 rounds - hewitt the only slam
> > winner in his half. how is that "tough"?
>
> So an opponent has to be a "slam winner" in order to be a tough
> opponent for Nadal? It's obvious why it's a tough draw, at least for
> him, anyway: Gonzo beat him at AO two years ago, Monfils and Simon
> have both beaten him on HC recently, as have Murray and Tsonga.

gonzo 09 is a shadow of gonzo 07 - hard to see him getting a set off
rafa. nadal can only play 2 of the other 4 - and maybe only one - and
at least 2 of that 4 are "clowns" according to rst when they play
anyone else.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 07:29:48
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
On 24 Jan, 14:59, Adam Thirnis <adam.thir...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 24, 1:03=A0pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
> > Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
> > avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
> > draw
>
> what? no top 70 player for first 3 rounds - hewitt the only slam
> winner in his half. how is that "tough"?

So an opponent has to be a "slam winner" in order to be a tough
opponent for Nadal? It's obvious why it's a tough draw, at least for
him, anyway: Gonzo beat him at AO two years ago, Monfils and Simon
have both beaten him on HC recently, as have Murray and Tsonga.


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 16:48:28
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas

"Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:f0d41577-03a4-434d-8dfb-7ca435f1e5fa@v42g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
On 24 Jan, 14:59, Adam Thirnis <adam.thir...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 24, 1:03 pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
> > Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
> > avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
> > draw
>
> what? no top 70 player for first 3 rounds - hewitt the only slam
> winner in his half. how is that "tough"?

So an opponent has to be a "slam winner" in order to be a tough
opponent for Nadal? It's obvious why it's a tough draw, at least for
him, anyway: Gonzo beat him at AO two years ago, Monfils and Simon
have both beaten him on HC recently, as have Murray and Tsonga.


***

fedfuckers are shameless




   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 18:03:30
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
*skriptis wrote:
> "Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f0d41577-03a4-434d-8dfb-7ca435f1e5fa@v42g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
> On 24 Jan, 14:59, Adam Thirnis <adam.thir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 1:03 pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
>>> Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
>>> avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
>>> draw
>> what? no top 70 player for first 3 rounds - hewitt the only slam
>> winner in his half. how is that "tough"?
>
> So an opponent has to be a "slam winner" in order to be a tough
> opponent for Nadal? It's obvious why it's a tough draw, at least for
> him, anyway: Gonzo beat him at AO two years ago, Monfils and Simon
> have both beaten him on HC recently, as have Murray and Tsonga.
>
>
> ***
>
> fedfuckers are shameless
>
>

Well cuntsie is anyway.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 06:59:20
From: Adam Thirnis
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
On Jan 24, 1:03=A0pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
> Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
> avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
> draw

what? no top 70 player for first 3 rounds - hewitt the only slam
winner in his half. how is that "tough"?



  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 15:20:41
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
Adam Thirnis wrote:
> On Jan 24, 1:03 pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
>> Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
>> avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
>> draw
>
> what? no top 70 player for first 3 rounds - hewitt the only slam
> winner in his half. how is that "tough"?
>

Don't you know this is lousy preparation to face an opponent who
finished 2 marathon 5 set matches in his first 3 rounds against quality
opposition?

His 3R was practically as long as Nadal's first 3 rounds. In fact, his
last set against Gasquet had as many games as Nadal's 1R match and
lasted longer. Poor Nadal! He is going to be suffering from lack of
match play. ;-)

--
Cheers,

vc


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 06:44:03
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
On Jan 24, 9:21=A0am, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Wayne wrote:
> > Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
> > Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
> > avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
> > draw but it should be a lot easier now that Gonzo, his opponent in the
> > R16, has just played a 4 hour match against Gasquet. Rafa should be OK
> > against him. The QF will be a pretty tough grind though against either
> > Simon or Monfils, but again I'd tip Rafa to come through.
>
> > Really wouldn't like to call a Murray v Rafa SF, but I'd expect Fed to
> > come through his side of the draw to meet either of them in the final.
> > Djokovic will probably be in the SF too, but he has been the least
> > impressive of the "big 4" so far.
>
> Yeah, Nadal played great. Truly solid display of form against on formish
> *Haas*
>
> Horrible draw though so I'm not too hopeful...
>
> *Gonzo* is super dangerous and looked to be on form, can punish Rafa's
> floaters...but Nadal especially should be able to take advantage from
> Gonzo's weak backhand and slices. Not sure if today's match plays a role
> in couple of days. I hope it will! ;)
> Expect lots of running around backhands in that match. Probably two
> biggest forehands in the game.

I'd be shocked if Gonzo beat Rafa. This is almost a complete reversal
of the circumstances of their
match 2 years ago.

Throw in the fact that Rafa has owned their head to head since then
and is now an improved player on
hard court (whereas Gonzo is pretty much the same player) and this
should be a straight setter.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 06:34:02
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
On 24 Jan, 14:23, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:

> P.S. It's not surprising that other players have easier draws...they're
> all in Nadal's...

I know - Fed's draw is a joke.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 06:32:44
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
On 24 Jan, 14:21, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:

> Then he has to face *Murray* or *Tsonga* in the semis...and after that
> there would still be final. Duh.

Agreed it's a really tough draw, but he's capable of pulling it off.
And I'm certain that Gonzo won't be fresh for their match on Monday,
plus he isn't the same player that made the AO final in 07, where he
beat Rafa along the way.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 06:25:28
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
On Jan 24, 8:03=A0am, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
> Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
> avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
> draw but it should be a lot easier now that Gonzo, his opponent in the
> R16, has just played a 4 hour match against Gasquet. Rafa should be OK
> against him. The QF will be a pretty tough grind though against either
> Simon or Monfils, but again I'd tip Rafa to come through.
>
> Really wouldn't like to call a Murray v Rafa SF, but I'd expect Fed to
> come through his side of the draw to meet either of them in the final.
> Djokovic will probably be in the SF too, but he has been the least
> impressive of the "big 4" so far.

I thought Gonzo should be out from the first round.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 16:21:35
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
Wayne wrote:
> Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
> Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
> avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
> draw but it should be a lot easier now that Gonzo, his opponent in the
> R16, has just played a 4 hour match against Gasquet. Rafa should be OK
> against him. The QF will be a pretty tough grind though against either
> Simon or Monfils, but again I'd tip Rafa to come through.
>
> Really wouldn't like to call a Murray v Rafa SF, but I'd expect Fed to
> come through his side of the draw to meet either of them in the final.
> Djokovic will probably be in the SF too, but he has been the least
> impressive of the "big 4" so far.
>

Yeah, Nadal played great. Truly solid display of form against on formish
*Haas*

Horrible draw though so I'm not too hopeful...

*Gonzo* is super dangerous and looked to be on form, can punish Rafa's
floaters...but Nadal especially should be able to take advantage from
Gonzo's weak backhand and slices. Not sure if today's match plays a role
in couple of days. I hope it will! ;)
Expect lots of running around backhands in that match. Probably two
biggest forehands in the game.

*Monfils* and *Simon* are players on form and on rise plus have beaten
Nadal on hc recentlyishly. That could be one hell of a tough match. I'm
not even sure whom I wanted to play against Rafa. Maybe Monfils...it's
payback time.

Then he has to face *Murray* or *Tsonga* in the semis...and after that
there would still be final. Duh.


--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 16:23:29
From: TT
Subject: Re: Nadal v Haas
TT wrote:
> Wayne wrote:
>> Damn, Rafa is looking sharp, certainly a lot sharper than he looked in
>> Abi Dhabi/Doha. Haas gave it go but he had to play pretty well just to
>> avoid the score becoming an embarrassment. I thought Nadal had a tough
>> draw but it should be a lot easier now that Gonzo, his opponent in the
>> R16, has just played a 4 hour match against Gasquet. Rafa should be OK
>> against him. The QF will be a pretty tough grind though against either
>> Simon or Monfils, but again I'd tip Rafa to come through.
>>
>> Really wouldn't like to call a Murray v Rafa SF, but I'd expect Fed to
>> come through his side of the draw to meet either of them in the final.
>> Djokovic will probably be in the SF too, but he has been the least
>> impressive of the "big 4" so far.
>>
>
> Yeah, Nadal played great. Truly solid display of form against on formish
> *Haas*
>
> Horrible draw though so I'm not too hopeful...
>
> *Gonzo* is super dangerous and looked to be on form, can punish Rafa's
> floaters...but Nadal especially should be able to take advantage from
> Gonzo's weak backhand and slices. Not sure if today's match plays a role
> in couple of days. I hope it will! ;)
> Expect lots of running around backhands in that match. Probably two
> biggest forehands in the game.
>
> *Monfils* and *Simon* are players on form and on rise plus have beaten
> Nadal on hc recentlyishly. That could be one hell of a tough match. I'm
> not even sure whom I wanted to play against Rafa. Maybe Monfils...it's
> payback time.
>
> Then he has to face *Murray* or *Tsonga* in the semis...and after that
> there would still be final. Duh.
>
>

P.S. It's not surprising that other players have easier draws...they're
all in Nadal's...


--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"