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Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:14:37
From: wkhedr
Subject: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
much emotionally involved in tennis.

On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
congratulate him.




 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 13:12:45
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
On Feb 1, 4:08=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:16:31 -0800 (PST), RahimAsif
>
>
>
>
>
> <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 1, 8:14=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> >> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> >> He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> >> this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
> >> Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> >> much emotionally involved in tennis.
>
> >> On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
> >> history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
> >> congratulate him.
>
> >He would have been fine if it wasn't Nadal across the net - burden of
> >history is trivial compared to his Nadal problem. Put any other player
> >across the net and he would have probably won...
>
> Strange that it affected only his serve (and maybe volleys) today. All
> the other shots were fine.

Not in the fifth set. In the fifth set all Federer's strokes were a
bad as his serve. He lost control of everything.

Joe Ramirez


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 13:30:12
From:
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
In article
<1e5cdfbb-fc34-4b17-8d2a-c3b8fe20da99@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com >,
wkhedr@my-deja.com (wkhedr) wrote:

>
> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You
> remember
> Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> much emotionally involved in tennis.

It was a big deal for Sampras, too, of course - he struggled to get to 13
and 14. But Sampras got there, and I don't see why Federer shouldn't.

wg


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 08:34:54
From:
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
On Feb 1, 8:14=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
> Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> much emotionally involved in tennis.
>
> On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
> history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
> congratulate him.

yes, Nadal only cares about uncle Toni and why not -

"But I spoke with the coach, before the match, with Toni. He told me,
anyway, you go there and fight all the time and believe in the victory
all the time. I think that's what I did in the end. [It] was good,=94.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 15:44:35
From: RzR
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
wkhedr wrote:
> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> He is too emotional about history of tennis,

yup...he needs to forget all that, or hes got no chance to beat them
all...just needs to concentrate on tennis...


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:30:42
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
On 1 f=E9v, 15:16, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 8:14=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> > mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> > He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> > this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
> > Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> > much emotionally involved in tennis.
>
> > On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
> > history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
> > congratulate him.
>
> He would have been fine if it wasn't Nadal across the net - burden of
> history is trivial compared to his Nadal problem. Put any other player
> across the net and he would have probably won...

Very true as well.
Both of your post are showing two faces of Federer's troubles.
Facing both History & Nadal was (is?) too much for him these days.
The closer it gets, the harder too.

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 14:24:42
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
"wkhedr" <wkhedr@my-deja.com > wrote in message
news:1e5cdfbb-fc34-4b17-8d2a-c3b8fe20da99@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
> Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> much emotionally involved in tennis.
>
> On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
> history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
> congratulate him.

Nadal does care about the titles/history, he has huge respect for Wimbledon
and the other tournament, that is one of the reasons I like him.




 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:22:23
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
On 1 feb, 15:14, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
> Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> much emotionally involved in tennis.
>
> On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
> history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
> congratulate him.

He needs a little more muscle and firepower to beat Nadal. It's
useless trying to rally with him. He also needs to serve significantly
better than he did today. His serving seemed quite ineffective in just
about every service game.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:19:31
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
On Feb 1, 9:16=A0am, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 8:14=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> > mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> > He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> > this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
> > Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> > much emotionally involved in tennis.
>
> > On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
> > history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
> > congratulate him.
>
> He would have been fine if it wasn't Nadal across the net - burden of
> history is trivial compared to his Nadal problem. Put any other player
> across the net and he would have probably won...

He served at 50% today if I remember correctly. One set he served
below 40%.
He didn't play badly from the baseline, I think he won a good share of
them.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:20:39
From: The MAN
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
On Feb 1, 6:16=A0am, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 8:14=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> > mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> > He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> > this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
> > Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> > much emotionally involved in tennis.
>
> > On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
> > history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
> > congratulate him.
>
> He would have been fine if it wasn't Nadal across the net - burden of
> history is trivial compared to his Nadal problem. Put any other player
> across the net and he would have probably won...


True, but i think the OP is correct, in that Feddy
has to forget making all these records, and just play his
game.

ALSO, FEDDY NEEDS A COACH!!!!


 
Date: 01 Feb 2009 06:16:31
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
On Feb 1, 8:14=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
> Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> much emotionally involved in tennis.
>
> On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
> history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
> congratulate him.

He would have been fine if it wasn't Nadal across the net - burden of
history is trivial compared to his Nadal problem. Put any other player
across the net and he would have probably won...


  
Date: 01 Feb 2009 23:08:58
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:16:31 -0800 (PST), RahimAsif
<RahimAsif@gmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 1, 8:14 am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
>> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
>> He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
>> this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
>> Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
>> much emotionally involved in tennis.
>>
>> On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
>> history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
>> congratulate him.
>
>He would have been fine if it wasn't Nadal across the net - burden of
>history is trivial compared to his Nadal problem. Put any other player
>across the net and he would have probably won...

Strange that it affected only his serve (and maybe volleys) today. All
the other shots were fine.


  
Date: 01 Feb 2009 13:23:33
From: Javier Gonzalez
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
RahimAsif <RahimAsif@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 1, 8:14 am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
>> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
>> He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
>> this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
>> Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
>> much emotionally involved in tennis.
>>
>> On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
>> history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
>> congratulate him.
>
> He would have been fine if it wasn't Nadal across the net - burden of
> history is trivial compared to his Nadal problem. Put any other player
> across the net and he would have probably won...

Completely disagree - his serving had never deserted him in this fashion
against Nadal, for a complete match, until now. What a coincidence that it
just happens to be when it's time for 14...


  
Date: 01 Feb 2009 14:24:41
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Nothing wrong with Federer's FH and BH today.
"RahimAsif" <RahimAsif@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:3d1f709c-6fe6-40c5-98dc-2fa04a86b31c@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 1, 8:14 am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> His strokes were fine, but it became clear for me that he can't
> mentally handle the burden to achieve his goals.
> He is too emotional about history of tennis, Sampras, Laver, etc and
> this is destroying him specially when he gets very close. You remember
> Laver giving him the trophy and Federer can't stop crying. He is too
> much emotionally involved in tennis.
>
> On the other hand I like Nadal, he gives no shit about history or
> history greats, Nadla did not even stand when Laver came to
> congratulate him.
>
>He would have been fine if it wasn't Nadal across the net - burden of
>history is trivial compared to his Nadal problem. Put any other player
>across the net and he would have probably won...

Against a fully fit Murray or Djoker he'd be in trouble.