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Date: 12 Feb 2009 19:08:27
From: wkhedr
Subject: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
Battered from hours of exhausting play during the last few days of the
Australian Open, the world No. 1 could have surrendered to Federer
during the final. But weariness would be too feeble an excuse for
someone too stubborn to be submissive.
Instead, the increasingly mighty Nadal won his second straight five-
set match -- his semifinal win over Fernando Verdasco set an
Australian Open record when it went five hours, 14 minutes -- beating
Federer in a dramatic 7-5, 3-6, 7-6 (3), 3-6, 6-2 final.
"I would never, ever, ever put one dime on him to win this match in
five sets, and in fact, it was Roger that got tired," multiple Grand
Slam champion Martina Navratilova said. "For Rafa to be able to keep
that up is just the most amazing physical display I've ever seen. That
he could do it after that match two days ago is astonishing."
The outcome of the Australian Open presents a serious problem for
Federer, often anointed the best to ever play the game. He's a guy
accurately described as an Einstein with a tennis racket, a genius
with breaking records on his mind. Alas, in his way is a larger-than-
life Nadal who keeps getting better.
Could the 27-year-old Federer break Pete Sampras' record of 14 Grand
Slam titles? Absolutely. He was playing to tie Sampras in this final.
But the truth is the tennis world is starting to say Nadal's name when
it talks of who will win the most Grand Slam titles in history.
Although Nadal plays a physical brand of tennis and his knees already
pain him, he's young and owns a half dozen Grand Slam titles.
"I've said from the beginning, I think that Nadal wins more majors
than Roger," seven-time Grand Slam champion Mats Wilander said. "If he
physically keeps up, I think he wins more than anybody. Now he's
proven he can play on hard courts. He can be the boss everywhere."
Former player-turned-TV-analyst Justin Gimelstob, who couldn't find
enough superlatives to describe Nadal's winning performance, agrees
with Wilander.
"If he stays healthy, he has the ability to ratchet up Grand Slams
beyond the ability Roger and Sampras had," Gimelstob said. "He's 22,
and he has six Slams. Do the math. He's a huge threat. The record goes
through him. Whatever Federer ends up, Nadal is always a threat to
surpass it because there's nothing he can't win. And he's a freak,
physically, and I mean that in a positive way."
The confidence Federer once exhibited that he will break Sampras'
record definitely received another blow in Australia, as Nadal showed
he can beat him at a Grand Slam level on clay, grass and hard courts.
Federer was so disconsolate on court after the match, he dissolved
into tears and could not speak.
That's because with every match they play, Nadal shows himself to be
the more impressive talent.
When Federer isn't facing Nadal, it's a safe bet the Swiss thinks he's
the better player. But when he looks across the net to see the
muscular Spaniard with the deceitful southpaw style, Federer becomes a
fragile talent. Proof of that is a look at their career records
against each other: Nadal now holds a 13-6 record, has won their past
five matches and owns a 6-2 edge in Grand Slam meetings.
The clear-cut Nadal advantage brings to question how to judge their
rivalry: Is it one of the greatest, or not so great?
"It's the greatest tennis ever played," Gimelstob said. "They still
have a lot more chapters to write, but to have two of the last three
Grand Slam finals be this epic, it's unfathomable what's possible. I
think in terms of what they do to each other, this is the best tennis
ever played. What they're challenging each other to do on every point
is insane."
The other side takes note that Nadal is separating himself from
Federer by a very wide margin.
"I think it was potentially one of the greatest rivalries in the
history of the game, but it's turning out not to be," Wilander said.
"It's an unbelievable match, it's very attractive to watch it.
"It's not Borg-McEnroe where they're both winning until Borg quit.
It's not quite Sampras-Agassi. It's a little bit like that because
Sampras had Agassi's number, but Agassi won enough and Agassi played
longer than Pete. It's just not the same. This is a serious rivalry
that's become one-sided, literally."
And what does Nadal have to say about it all? He left happy he has six
Grand Slam titles and vowed to continue to work hard to win other
titles. And, as always, he paid homage to Federer.
"Today was a lot of emotions on court," the humble Nadal said. "I was
there with the best player I ever saw."

Sandra Harwitt is a freelance tennis writer for ESPN.com.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/aus09/columns/story?columnist=harwitt_sandra&id=3876694




 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 06:42:26
From:
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Feb 13, 2:38=A0pm, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 12:32=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
> > That's old news. The current conversation is will Dimitrov break
> > Nadal's slam record.
>
> I thought tomic was going to do that a few weeks ago ;-)

He would have done, except he will be banned for life ... leaves the
way clear for Dimitrov


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 16:53:25
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:42:26 -0800 (PST), gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Feb 13, 2:38 pm, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 12:32 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>>
>> > That's old news. The current conversation is will Dimitrov break
>> > Nadal's slam record.
>>
>> I thought tomic was going to do that a few weeks ago ;-)
>
>He would have done, except he will be banned for life ... leaves the
>way clear for Dimitrov

This all has given me an idea to write a little piece about Kontinen,
Dimitrov and Tomic. Our great hope, the Wimbledon finalist has been
away with a wrist injury since October, and is actually just now
returning to competition. Meanwhile the guy who he beat in Wimbledon
SF, and the guy who beat him in Wimbledon F, have already impressed in
ATP level. Thanks for the idea, it is always good to read rst :-)


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 06:39:08
From:
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Feb 13, 12:32=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> That's old news. The current conversation is will Dimitrov break
> Nadal's slam record.

Pah! Keep up - the latest thinking is whether Dimitrov's guaranteed
breaking of Nadal's slam record (which in turn breaks Federer's slam
record) proves that there is a permanent clown era, since Sampras 14
slams will already be passed by three players ...



  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 21:57:25
From:
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
gregorawe@hotmail.com writes:

> On Feb 13, 12:32 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>> That's old news. The current conversation is will Dimitrov break
>> Nadal's slam record.
>
> Pah! Keep up - the latest thinking is whether Dimitrov's guaranteed
> breaking of Nadal's slam record (which in turn breaks Federer's slam
> record) proves that there is a permanent clown era, since Sampras 14
> slams will already be passed by three players ...

How many interim GOATs can you have in one era?


  
Date: 14 Feb 2009 01:41:12
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 13, 12:32 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>> That's old news. The current conversation is will Dimitrov break
>> Nadal's slam record.
>
> Pah! Keep up - the latest thinking is whether Dimitrov's guaranteed
> breaking of Nadal's slam record (which in turn breaks Federer's slam
> record) proves that there is a permanent clown era, since Sampras 14
> slams will already be passed by three players ...
>



...with ears.



 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 06:38:11
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Feb 13, 12:32=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> That's old news. The current conversation is will Dimitrov break
> Nadal's slam record.

I thought tomic was going to do that a few weeks ago ;-)


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 06:09:45
From:
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Feb 13, 4:01=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> I would agree with Wilander. =A0I think Nadal is the best I've ever
> >> seen. It goes beyond the tennis. =A0We may never see a warrior like
> >> Nadal again as the #1. =A0There have been tough guys and talented guys=
,
> >> fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.- Hi=
de quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Typical bullshit from Wilander. First he should start off by saying
> > "I'm a dickhead for saying the AO
> > court doesn't take spin and therefore doesn't suit Fed and Nadal." His
> > picks for this year's tournament were
> > Tsonga and Djokovic if you can believe it. What tier 1 insight! Pick
> > the finalists from last year.
>
> ...whereas I was the only one to pick Rafa beats Fed in final
> pre-tournament.

True.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 06:08:50
From:
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Feb 13, 1:19=A0am, drew <d...@technologist.com > wrote:
> On Feb 12, 10:08=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Battered from hours of exhausting play during the last few days of the
> > Australian Open, the world No. 1 could have surrendered to Federer
> > during the final. But weariness would be too feeble an excuse for
> > someone too stubborn to be submissive.
> > Instead, the increasingly mighty Nadal won his second straight five-
> > set match -- his semifinal win over Fernando Verdasco set an
> > Australian Open record when it went five hours, 14 minutes -- beating
> > Federer in a dramatic 7-5, 3-6, 7-6 (3), 3-6, 6-2 final.
> > "I would never, ever, ever put one dime on him to win this match in
> > five sets, and in fact, it was Roger that got tired," multiple Grand
> > Slam champion Martina Navratilova said. "For Rafa to be able to keep
> > that up is just the most amazing physical display I've ever seen. That
> > he could do it after that match two days ago is astonishing."
> > The outcome of the Australian Open presents a serious problem for
> > Federer, often anointed the best to ever play the game. He's a guy
> > accurately described as an Einstein with a tennis racket, a genius
> > with breaking records on his mind. Alas, in his way is a larger-than-
> > life Nadal who keeps getting better.
> > Could the 27-year-old Federer break Pete Sampras' record of 14 Grand
> > Slam titles? Absolutely. He was playing to tie Sampras in this final.
> > But the truth is the tennis world is starting to say Nadal's name when
> > it talks of who will win the most Grand Slam titles in history.
> > Although Nadal plays a physical brand of tennis and his knees already
> > pain him, he's young and owns a half dozen Grand Slam titles.
> > "I've said from the beginning, I think that Nadal wins more majors
> > than Roger," seven-time Grand Slam champion Mats Wilander said. "If he
> > physically keeps up, I think he wins more than anybody. Now he's
> > proven he can play on hard courts. He can be the boss everywhere."
> > Former player-turned-TV-analyst Justin Gimelstob, who couldn't find
> > enough superlatives to describe Nadal's winning performance, agrees
> > with Wilander.
> > "If he stays healthy, he has the ability to ratchet up Grand Slams
> > beyond the ability Roger and Sampras had," Gimelstob said. "He's 22,
> > and he has six Slams. Do the math. He's a huge threat. The record goes
> > through him. Whatever Federer ends up, Nadal is always a threat to
> > surpass it because there's nothing he can't win. And he's a freak,
> > physically, and I mean that in a positive way."
> > The confidence Federer once exhibited that he will break Sampras'
> > record definitely received another blow in Australia, as Nadal showed
> > he can beat him at a Grand Slam level on clay, grass and hard courts.
> > Federer was so disconsolate on court after the match, he dissolved
> > into tears and could not speak.
> > That's because with every match they play, Nadal shows himself to be
> > the more impressive talent.
> > When Federer isn't facing Nadal, it's a safe bet the Swiss thinks he's
> > the better player. But when he looks across the net to see the
> > muscular Spaniard with the deceitful southpaw style, Federer becomes a
> > fragile talent. Proof of that is a look at their career records
> > against each other: Nadal now holds a 13-6 record, has won their past
> > five matches and owns a 6-2 edge in Grand Slam meetings.
> > The clear-cut Nadal advantage brings to question how to judge their
> > rivalry: Is it one of the greatest, or not so great?
> > "It's the greatest tennis ever played," Gimelstob said. "They still
> > have a lot more chapters to write, but to have two of the last three
> > Grand Slam finals be this epic, it's unfathomable what's possible. I
> > think in terms of what they do to each other, this is the best tennis
> > ever played. What they're challenging each other to do on every point
> > is insane."
> > The other side takes note that Nadal is separating himself from
> > Federer by a very wide margin.
> > "I think it was potentially one of the greatest rivalries in the
> > history of the game, but it's turning out not to be," Wilander said.
> > "It's an unbelievable match, it's very attractive to watch it.
> > "It's not Borg-McEnroe where they're both winning until Borg quit.
> > It's not quite Sampras-Agassi. It's a little bit like that because
> > Sampras had Agassi's number, but Agassi won enough and Agassi played
> > longer than Pete. It's just not the same. This is a serious rivalry
> > that's become one-sided, literally."
> > And what does Nadal have to say about it all? He left happy he has six
> > Grand Slam titles and vowed to continue to work hard to win other
> > titles. And, as always, he paid homage to Federer.
> > "Today was a lot of emotions on court," the humble Nadal said. "I was
> > there with the best player I ever saw."
>
> > Sandra Harwitt is a freelance tennis writer for ESPN.com.http://sports.=
espn.go.com/sports/tennis/aus09/columns/story?columnist...
>
> Good article.
>
> I would agree with Wilander. =A0I think Nadal is the best I've ever
> seen. It goes beyond the tennis. =A0We may never see a warrior like
> Nadal again as the #1. =A0There have been tough guys and talented guys,
> fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.

Rafa is like a much better version of warrior/fighter Connors, no?


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 05:36:44
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Sandra Harwitt is a freelance tennis writer for ESPN.com and an
On Feb 13, 8:22=A0am, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com > wrote:

>
> After Federer and Nadal are both retired, I will tell you how many
> slams each won.

Sampras still can come out of his retirement and win slams :)


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 05:22:27
From: Fan
Subject: Sandra Harwitt is a freelance tennis writer for ESPN.com and an
On Feb 13, 5:02=A0am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com > wrote:
> Blah blah blah, another stupid wall of text signifying nothing.

Who says only rst trolls are allowed to be fools?
Sandra Harwitt is a freelance tennis writer for ESPN.com and an
ignorant troll.

Paid troll and retired tennis professional trolls are just as likely
to make far-fetched predictions as the rst trolls. One minute a player
is GOD, the next minute the same player is DOG. The same people who
were willing to give Federer 25 slams just a couple of weeks ago call
him a bum and now they are ready to give Nadal 25 slams.

Tennis entertains us and to make the players fabulously rich but it is
just a game. I respect Becker because he said it better than anyone
else did.

After Federer and Nadal are both retired, I will tell you how many
slams each won.




 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 04:32:20
From:
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Feb 13, 4:01=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> I would agree with Wilander. =A0I think Nadal is the best I've ever
> >> seen. It goes beyond the tennis. =A0We may never see a warrior like
> >> Nadal again as the #1. =A0There have been tough guys and talented guys=
,
> >> fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.- Hi=
de quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Typical bullshit from Wilander. First he should start off by saying
> > "I'm a dickhead for saying the AO
> > court doesn't take spin and therefore doesn't suit Fed and Nadal." His
> > picks for this year's tournament were
> > Tsonga and Djokovic if you can believe it. What tier 1 insight! Pick
> > the finalists from last year.
>
> ...whereas I was the only one to pick Rafa beats Fed in final
> pre-tournament.

I'd listen to a handful of people in rst before I'd listen to what
Wilander has to say.

Great player obviously, but he has this ignoring habit of
overanalyzing nearly everything and missing
the Sahara for a few grains of sand.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 14:32:03
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record

That's old news. The current conversation is will Dimitrov break
Nadal's slam record.


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 14:50:08
From: felangey
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
> That's old news. The current conversation is will Dimitrov break
> Nadal's slam record.

Lol! :)




 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 02:08:57
From:
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Feb 13, 3:08=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> Battered from hours of exhausting play during the last few days of the
> Australian Open, the world No. 1 could have surrendered to Federer
> during the final. But weariness would be too feeble an excuse for
> someone too stubborn to be submissive.
> Instead, the increasingly mighty Nadal won his second straight five-
> set match -- his semifinal win over Fernando Verdasco set an
> Australian Open record when it went five hours, 14 minutes -- beating
> Federer in a dramatic 7-5, 3-6, 7-6 (3), 3-6, 6-2 final.
> "I would never, ever, ever put one dime on him to win this match in
> five sets, and in fact, it was Roger that got tired," multiple Grand
> Slam champion Martina Navratilova said. "For Rafa to be able to keep
> that up is just the most amazing physical display I've ever seen. That
> he could do it after that match two days ago is astonishing."
> The outcome of the Australian Open presents a serious problem for
> Federer, often anointed the best to ever play the game. He's a guy
> accurately described as an Einstein with a tennis racket, a genius
> with breaking records on his mind. Alas, in his way is a larger-than-
> life Nadal who keeps getting better.
> Could the 27-year-old Federer break Pete Sampras' record of 14 Grand
> Slam titles? Absolutely. He was playing to tie Sampras in this final.
> But the truth is the tennis world is starting to say Nadal's name when
> it talks of who will win the most Grand Slam titles in history.
> Although Nadal plays a physical brand of tennis and his knees already
> pain him, he's young and owns a half dozen Grand Slam titles.
> "I've said from the beginning, I think that Nadal wins more majors
> than Roger," seven-time Grand Slam champion Mats Wilander said. "If he
> physically keeps up, I think he wins more than anybody. Now he's
> proven he can play on hard courts. He can be the boss everywhere."
> Former player-turned-TV-analyst Justin Gimelstob, who couldn't find
> enough superlatives to describe Nadal's winning performance, agrees
> with Wilander.
> "If he stays healthy, he has the ability to ratchet up Grand Slams
> beyond the ability Roger and Sampras had," Gimelstob said. "He's 22,
> and he has six Slams. Do the math. He's a huge threat. The record goes
> through him. Whatever Federer ends up, Nadal is always a threat to
> surpass it because there's nothing he can't win. And he's a freak,
> physically, and I mean that in a positive way."
> The confidence Federer once exhibited that he will break Sampras'
> record definitely received another blow in Australia, as Nadal showed
> he can beat him at a Grand Slam level on clay, grass and hard courts.
> Federer was so disconsolate on court after the match, he dissolved
> into tears and could not speak.
> That's because with every match they play, Nadal shows himself to be
> the more impressive talent.
> When Federer isn't facing Nadal, it's a safe bet the Swiss thinks he's
> the better player. But when he looks across the net to see the
> muscular Spaniard with the deceitful southpaw style, Federer becomes a
> fragile talent. Proof of that is a look at their career records
> against each other: Nadal now holds a 13-6 record, has won their past
> five matches and owns a 6-2 edge in Grand Slam meetings.
> The clear-cut Nadal advantage brings to question how to judge their
> rivalry: Is it one of the greatest, or not so great?
> "It's the greatest tennis ever played," Gimelstob said. "They still
> have a lot more chapters to write, but to have two of the last three
> Grand Slam finals be this epic, it's unfathomable what's possible. I
> think in terms of what they do to each other, this is the best tennis
> ever played. What they're challenging each other to do on every point
> is insane."
> The other side takes note that Nadal is separating himself from
> Federer by a very wide margin.
> "I think it was potentially one of the greatest rivalries in the
> history of the game, but it's turning out not to be," Wilander said.
> "It's an unbelievable match, it's very attractive to watch it.
> "It's not Borg-McEnroe where they're both winning until Borg quit.
> It's not quite Sampras-Agassi. It's a little bit like that because
> Sampras had Agassi's number, but Agassi won enough and Agassi played
> longer than Pete. It's just not the same. This is a serious rivalry
> that's become one-sided, literally."
> And what does Nadal have to say about it all? He left happy he has six
> Grand Slam titles and vowed to continue to work hard to win other
> titles. And, as always, he paid homage to Federer.
> "Today was a lot of emotions on court," the humble Nadal said. "I was
> there with the best player I ever saw."
>
> Sandra Harwitt is a freelance tennis writer for ESPN.com.http://sports.es=
pn.go.com/sports/tennis/aus09/columns/story?columnist...

Should be a good article - oh hang on, there's some opinions from
Gimelstob in there ...



 
Date: 12 Feb 2009 22:36:56
From:
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Feb 13, 1:19=A0am, drew <d...@technologist.com > wrote:
> On Feb 12, 10:08=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Battered from hours of exhausting play during the last few days of the
> > Australian Open, the world No. 1 could have surrendered to Federer
> > during the final. But weariness would be too feeble an excuse for
> > someone too stubborn to be submissive.
> > Instead, the increasingly mighty Nadal won his second straight five-
> > set match -- his semifinal win over Fernando Verdasco set an
> > Australian Open record when it went five hours, 14 minutes -- beating
> > Federer in a dramatic 7-5, 3-6, 7-6 (3), 3-6, 6-2 final.
> > "I would never, ever, ever put one dime on him to win this match in
> > five sets, and in fact, it was Roger that got tired," multiple Grand
> > Slam champion Martina Navratilova said. "For Rafa to be able to keep
> > that up is just the most amazing physical display I've ever seen. That
> > he could do it after that match two days ago is astonishing."
> > The outcome of the Australian Open presents a serious problem for
> > Federer, often anointed the best to ever play the game. He's a guy
> > accurately described as an Einstein with a tennis racket, a genius
> > with breaking records on his mind. Alas, in his way is a larger-than-
> > life Nadal who keeps getting better.
> > Could the 27-year-old Federer break Pete Sampras' record of 14 Grand
> > Slam titles? Absolutely. He was playing to tie Sampras in this final.
> > But the truth is the tennis world is starting to say Nadal's name when
> > it talks of who will win the most Grand Slam titles in history.
> > Although Nadal plays a physical brand of tennis and his knees already
> > pain him, he's young and owns a half dozen Grand Slam titles.
> > "I've said from the beginning, I think that Nadal wins more majors
> > than Roger," seven-time Grand Slam champion Mats Wilander said. "If he
> > physically keeps up, I think he wins more than anybody. Now he's
> > proven he can play on hard courts. He can be the boss everywhere."
> > Former player-turned-TV-analyst Justin Gimelstob, who couldn't find
> > enough superlatives to describe Nadal's winning performance, agrees
> > with Wilander.
> > "If he stays healthy, he has the ability to ratchet up Grand Slams
> > beyond the ability Roger and Sampras had," Gimelstob said. "He's 22,
> > and he has six Slams. Do the math. He's a huge threat. The record goes
> > through him. Whatever Federer ends up, Nadal is always a threat to
> > surpass it because there's nothing he can't win. And he's a freak,
> > physically, and I mean that in a positive way."
> > The confidence Federer once exhibited that he will break Sampras'
> > record definitely received another blow in Australia, as Nadal showed
> > he can beat him at a Grand Slam level on clay, grass and hard courts.
> > Federer was so disconsolate on court after the match, he dissolved
> > into tears and could not speak.
> > That's because with every match they play, Nadal shows himself to be
> > the more impressive talent.
> > When Federer isn't facing Nadal, it's a safe bet the Swiss thinks he's
> > the better player. But when he looks across the net to see the
> > muscular Spaniard with the deceitful southpaw style, Federer becomes a
> > fragile talent. Proof of that is a look at their career records
> > against each other: Nadal now holds a 13-6 record, has won their past
> > five matches and owns a 6-2 edge in Grand Slam meetings.
> > The clear-cut Nadal advantage brings to question how to judge their
> > rivalry: Is it one of the greatest, or not so great?
> > "It's the greatest tennis ever played," Gimelstob said. "They still
> > have a lot more chapters to write, but to have two of the last three
> > Grand Slam finals be this epic, it's unfathomable what's possible. I
> > think in terms of what they do to each other, this is the best tennis
> > ever played. What they're challenging each other to do on every point
> > is insane."
> > The other side takes note that Nadal is separating himself from
> > Federer by a very wide margin.
> > "I think it was potentially one of the greatest rivalries in the
> > history of the game, but it's turning out not to be," Wilander said.
> > "It's an unbelievable match, it's very attractive to watch it.
> > "It's not Borg-McEnroe where they're both winning until Borg quit.
> > It's not quite Sampras-Agassi. It's a little bit like that because
> > Sampras had Agassi's number, but Agassi won enough and Agassi played
> > longer than Pete. It's just not the same. This is a serious rivalry
> > that's become one-sided, literally."
> > And what does Nadal have to say about it all? He left happy he has six
> > Grand Slam titles and vowed to continue to work hard to win other
> > titles. And, as always, he paid homage to Federer.
> > "Today was a lot of emotions on court," the humble Nadal said. "I was
> > there with the best player I ever saw."
>
> > Sandra Harwitt is a freelance tennis writer for ESPN.com.http://sports.=
espn.go.com/sports/tennis/aus09/columns/story?columnist...
>
> Good article.
>
> I would agree with Wilander. =A0I think Nadal is the best I've ever
> seen. It goes beyond the tennis. =A0We may never see a warrior like
> Nadal again as the #1. =A0There have been tough guys and talented guys,
> fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.- Hide =
quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Typical bullshit from Wilander. First he should start off by saying
"I'm a dickhead for saying the AO
court doesn't take spin and therefore doesn't suit Fed and Nadal." His
picks for this year's tournament were
Tsonga and Djokovic if you can believe it. What tier 1 insight! Pick
the finalists from last year.

And then what does he mean by "Agassi won enough?" Pete won every
single time they played at Wimby and
the USO, at all of their most high-profile matches. Fed's beat Nadal
in 2 Wimby finals so I have no idea what he's saying. Probably smoking
some more of that weed he gets his hands on out in Idaho or wherever
the hell he lives.


  
Date: 13 Feb 2009 20:01:23
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
>> I would agree with Wilander. I think Nadal is the best I've ever
>> seen. It goes beyond the tennis. We may never see a warrior like
>> Nadal again as the #1. There have been tough guys and talented guys,
>> fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Typical bullshit from Wilander. First he should start off by saying
> "I'm a dickhead for saying the AO
> court doesn't take spin and therefore doesn't suit Fed and Nadal." His
> picks for this year's tournament were
> Tsonga and Djokovic if you can believe it. What tier 1 insight! Pick
> the finalists from last year.


...whereas I was the only one to pick Rafa beats Fed in final
pre-tournament.



   
Date: 13 Feb 2009 11:04:31
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record

"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:499536e6$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I would agree with Wilander. I think Nadal is the best I've ever
>>> seen. It goes beyond the tennis. We may never see a warrior like
>>> Nadal again as the #1. There have been tough guys and talented guys,
>>> fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.- Hide
>>> quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Typical bullshit from Wilander. First he should start off by saying
>> "I'm a dickhead for saying the AO
>> court doesn't take spin and therefore doesn't suit Fed and Nadal." His
>> picks for this year's tournament were
>> Tsonga and Djokovic if you can believe it. What tier 1 insight! Pick
>> the finalists from last year.
>
>
> ...whereas I was the only one to pick Rafa beats Fed in final
> pre-tournament.

No, I picked that too. :)
http://www.tennis28.com/funstuff/rst_2009sp_AO.html




    
Date: 13 Feb 2009 22:05:43
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
*skriptis wrote:
> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:499536e6$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I would agree with Wilander. I think Nadal is the best I've ever
>>>> seen. It goes beyond the tennis. We may never see a warrior like
>>>> Nadal again as the #1. There have been tough guys and talented guys,
>>>> fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.- Hide
>>>> quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Typical bullshit from Wilander. First he should start off by saying
>>> "I'm a dickhead for saying the AO
>>> court doesn't take spin and therefore doesn't suit Fed and Nadal." His
>>> picks for this year's tournament were
>>> Tsonga and Djokovic if you can believe it. What tier 1 insight! Pick
>>> the finalists from last year.
>>
>> ...whereas I was the only one to pick Rafa beats Fed in final
>> pre-tournament.
>
> No, I picked that too. :)
> http://www.tennis28.com/funstuff/rst_2009sp_AO.html
>
>


We're the same person so doesn't count.



     
Date: 13 Feb 2009 12:22:13
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record

"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:4995540b$0$23945$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> *skriptis wrote:
>> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:499536e6$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> I would agree with Wilander. I think Nadal is the best I've ever
>>>>> seen. It goes beyond the tennis. We may never see a warrior like
>>>>> Nadal again as the #1. There have been tough guys and talented guys,
>>>>> fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.-
>>>>> Hide quoted text -
>>>>>
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> Typical bullshit from Wilander. First he should start off by saying
>>>> "I'm a dickhead for saying the AO
>>>> court doesn't take spin and therefore doesn't suit Fed and Nadal." His
>>>> picks for this year's tournament were
>>>> Tsonga and Djokovic if you can believe it. What tier 1 insight! Pick
>>>> the finalists from last year.
>>>
>>> ...whereas I was the only one to pick Rafa beats Fed in final
>>> pre-tournament.
>>
>> No, I picked that too. :)
>> http://www.tennis28.com/funstuff/rst_2009sp_AO.html
>
>
> We're the same person so doesn't count.


ahaha, I forgot that.




    
Date: 13 Feb 2009 10:09:16
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:04:31 +0100, "*skriptis"
<skriptis@post.t-com.hr > wrote:

>
>"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>news:499536e6$0$23934$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I would agree with Wilander. I think Nadal is the best I've ever
>>>> seen. It goes beyond the tennis. We may never see a warrior like
>>>> Nadal again as the #1. There have been tough guys and talented guys,
>>>> fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.- Hide
>>>> quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> Typical bullshit from Wilander. First he should start off by saying
>>> "I'm a dickhead for saying the AO
>>> court doesn't take spin and therefore doesn't suit Fed and Nadal." His
>>> picks for this year's tournament were
>>> Tsonga and Djokovic if you can believe it. What tier 1 insight! Pick
>>> the finalists from last year.
>>
>>
>> ...whereas I was the only one to pick Rafa beats Fed in final
>> pre-tournament.
>
>No, I picked that too. :)
>http://www.tennis28.com/funstuff/rst_2009sp_AO.html
>

so, skriptis=whisper what else is new ?


 
Date: 12 Feb 2009 22:19:30
From: drew
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
On Feb 12, 10:08=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> Battered from hours of exhausting play during the last few days of the
> Australian Open, the world No. 1 could have surrendered to Federer
> during the final. But weariness would be too feeble an excuse for
> someone too stubborn to be submissive.
> Instead, the increasingly mighty Nadal won his second straight five-
> set match -- his semifinal win over Fernando Verdasco set an
> Australian Open record when it went five hours, 14 minutes -- beating
> Federer in a dramatic 7-5, 3-6, 7-6 (3), 3-6, 6-2 final.
> "I would never, ever, ever put one dime on him to win this match in
> five sets, and in fact, it was Roger that got tired," multiple Grand
> Slam champion Martina Navratilova said. "For Rafa to be able to keep
> that up is just the most amazing physical display I've ever seen. That
> he could do it after that match two days ago is astonishing."
> The outcome of the Australian Open presents a serious problem for
> Federer, often anointed the best to ever play the game. He's a guy
> accurately described as an Einstein with a tennis racket, a genius
> with breaking records on his mind. Alas, in his way is a larger-than-
> life Nadal who keeps getting better.
> Could the 27-year-old Federer break Pete Sampras' record of 14 Grand
> Slam titles? Absolutely. He was playing to tie Sampras in this final.
> But the truth is the tennis world is starting to say Nadal's name when
> it talks of who will win the most Grand Slam titles in history.
> Although Nadal plays a physical brand of tennis and his knees already
> pain him, he's young and owns a half dozen Grand Slam titles.
> "I've said from the beginning, I think that Nadal wins more majors
> than Roger," seven-time Grand Slam champion Mats Wilander said. "If he
> physically keeps up, I think he wins more than anybody. Now he's
> proven he can play on hard courts. He can be the boss everywhere."
> Former player-turned-TV-analyst Justin Gimelstob, who couldn't find
> enough superlatives to describe Nadal's winning performance, agrees
> with Wilander.
> "If he stays healthy, he has the ability to ratchet up Grand Slams
> beyond the ability Roger and Sampras had," Gimelstob said. "He's 22,
> and he has six Slams. Do the math. He's a huge threat. The record goes
> through him. Whatever Federer ends up, Nadal is always a threat to
> surpass it because there's nothing he can't win. And he's a freak,
> physically, and I mean that in a positive way."
> The confidence Federer once exhibited that he will break Sampras'
> record definitely received another blow in Australia, as Nadal showed
> he can beat him at a Grand Slam level on clay, grass and hard courts.
> Federer was so disconsolate on court after the match, he dissolved
> into tears and could not speak.
> That's because with every match they play, Nadal shows himself to be
> the more impressive talent.
> When Federer isn't facing Nadal, it's a safe bet the Swiss thinks he's
> the better player. But when he looks across the net to see the
> muscular Spaniard with the deceitful southpaw style, Federer becomes a
> fragile talent. Proof of that is a look at their career records
> against each other: Nadal now holds a 13-6 record, has won their past
> five matches and owns a 6-2 edge in Grand Slam meetings.
> The clear-cut Nadal advantage brings to question how to judge their
> rivalry: Is it one of the greatest, or not so great?
> "It's the greatest tennis ever played," Gimelstob said. "They still
> have a lot more chapters to write, but to have two of the last three
> Grand Slam finals be this epic, it's unfathomable what's possible. I
> think in terms of what they do to each other, this is the best tennis
> ever played. What they're challenging each other to do on every point
> is insane."
> The other side takes note that Nadal is separating himself from
> Federer by a very wide margin.
> "I think it was potentially one of the greatest rivalries in the
> history of the game, but it's turning out not to be," Wilander said.
> "It's an unbelievable match, it's very attractive to watch it.
> "It's not Borg-McEnroe where they're both winning until Borg quit.
> It's not quite Sampras-Agassi. It's a little bit like that because
> Sampras had Agassi's number, but Agassi won enough and Agassi played
> longer than Pete. It's just not the same. This is a serious rivalry
> that's become one-sided, literally."
> And what does Nadal have to say about it all? He left happy he has six
> Grand Slam titles and vowed to continue to work hard to win other
> titles. And, as always, he paid homage to Federer.
> "Today was a lot of emotions on court," the humble Nadal said. "I was
> there with the best player I ever saw."
>
> Sandra Harwitt is a freelance tennis writer for ESPN.com.http://sports.es=
pn.go.com/sports/tennis/aus09/columns/story?columnist...

Good article.

I would agree with Wilander. I think Nadal is the best I've ever
seen. It goes beyond the tennis. We may never see a warrior like
Nadal again as the #1. There have been tough guys and talented guys,
fit guys and flakey guys at #1 but Nadal is in a class of his own.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 04:02:12
From: Stapler
Subject: Re: Now almost everybody says Nadal will make the new slam record
Blah blah blah, another stupid wall of text signifying nothing.