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Date: 06 Jan 2009 23:28:26
From: Whisper
Subject: Off topic - stringing question


Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from 59 &
am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.

eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control which
is really annoying me.

I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it could
be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll never regain
my touch?

Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?






 
Date: 07 Jan 2009 05:21:05
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
On Jan 7, 2:45=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Rodjk #613 wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 12:32 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Rodjk #613 wrote:
> >>> On Jan 6, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from =
59 &
> >>>> am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
> >>>> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
> >>>> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
> >>>> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control w=
hich
> >>>> is really annoying me.
> >>>> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
> >>>> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it co=
uld
> >>>> be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll never reg=
ain
> >>>> my touch?
> >>>> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?
> >>> Wendy gave a good answer below, I agree with what she is saying.
> >>> Patience is required.
> >>> It sounds like you changed your string and tension...is that correct?
> >>> Not sure when you said 'new strings' if you meant a different type or
> >>> just that you restrung and those are new strings of the same type as
> >>> before.
> >>> Either way, I would suggest that more than a few outings are necessar=
y
> >>> to adjust. In the years that I have played, I have gone from stringin=
g
> >>> in the high 70's to stringing in the low 50's. The adjustment can be
> >>> done, and I agree with you that there are some nice benefits to the
> >>> lower tension. But think of it this way, the longer you have used the
> >>> same string/tension/racquet combo, the longer it will take to adjust.
> >>> Just curious, what string are you using?
> >>> If you did switch, are you using a poly or hybrid?
> >>> Do you string yourself? (Makes it easier and cheaper to experiment)
> >>> Rodjk #613
> >> The strings are also different - a hybrid I can't recall the name - wi=
ll
> >> check with the pro but the long strings are tougher than the cross.
> >> Like I said I have played well with lower tensions in the past, just
> >> couldn't remember how long it took. =A0I've probably had 6 or 7 length=
y
> >> outings now (+5 hrs) but still surprised some routine shots are going
> >> long & wide, & also losing some touch on the volleys.
>
> >> I'll stick with it another month & if no improvement I'll get them
> >> replaced with higher tension.
>
> > The type of hybrid can change things a lot.
> > Generally, if you go to a poly you are advised to drop your tension at
> > least 5 lbs/2.26 kg (I think I did that conversion right. You are in
> > Australia, so use metric, right? Maybe not, since you mentioned
> > pounds, but I put both to be sure)
>
> I'm in Oz & we use lbs for string tension - arnab could probably tell
> you why.

Ok, that makes it easier. Seems to me that when we went to Oz they
mostly used the metric system, but maybe that was just distances and
temperature.

>
> > Do you hit a lot of spin? If you do, normally the problem is hitting
> > short, not long. If you don't hit a lot of topspin, I would think the
> > poly would cause you to hit long. Since we are not sure what you use,
> > its hard to say.
>
> I don't hit a lot of spin on my bread & butter (more slice & flattish
> strokes) so you're probably right about the poly sending it long. =A0At
> times I'll hit a shot with a lot of spin & results vary - from perfect
> winner with lots of power, to sending it long - guess it will just take
> playing a lot to get used to the nuances.

Ok. Yeah, the string is probably making more of a difference to you
rather than the tension. More on that below.

>
> > May be a good idea to only go down a few lbs/kg at a time, rather than
> > 9 lbs/4.08 kg all at once. That is a lot of tension to adjust to, and
> > with a new type string also it is no wonder you are having some
> > problems adjusting.
>
> Sure, but I used same or slightly lower tension yrs ago & figured it
> would be easy to adjust because of that experience - I figured wrong.

Probably not so much the tension as the poly, or a combination of
both. Did you find out what they used?

Poly makes a big difference. Dropping 9 lbs of tension and going to
poly would give anyone fits.

>
>
> > I play with the Babolet Aeropro Cortex (Nadal's racquet) with
> > Cyberflash mains (1.22) and Gosen crosses (1.20) strung at around 52
> > lbs/23.58. (I tend to jump around in tension. Anywhere from 48 lbs to
> > 55 lbs depending on my mood.) I was stringing it at about 58 lbs
> > before going to the Cyberflash mains.
>
> > Rodjk #613
>
> 52 lbs is pretty low - how do find that compared to the 58 lbs?

Not so bad for me. I tend to hit lots of topspin off both sides, and
mostly play s/v. The drop I took was less severe than yours (3 lbs
less) and since I hit with a lot of topspin I found that the poly
helps pull the ball into the court. Hence I hit a bit higher and a bit
harder, trusting that the extra spin pulls the ball into the court.

Oh, one other thing. Poly tends to go dead fairly quick. I find that
if I don't break a string within 2-3 weeks, I have to cut them out.
There's nothing like a fresh string job with poly, but the snappy feel
does not last long.

Luxilon is the 'hot' string now, but it is too expensive. $200+ for a
660 reel? I can get the cyperflash for $67 for a 660 reel and, to me
anyway, the play is similar to Lux. That is also the reason I use 18
gage string. If I am playing a lot I usually break strings right
around the 2 week mark anyway. Any longer than that and I cut them
out. So no sense in going to a thicker string.

Rodjk #613


  
Date: 08 Jan 2009 06:14:08
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
Rodjk #613 wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2:45 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Rodjk #613 wrote:
>>> On Jan 6, 12:32 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Rodjk #613 wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 6, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from 59 &
>>>>>> am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
>>>>>> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
>>>>>> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
>>>>>> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control which
>>>>>> is really annoying me.
>>>>>> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
>>>>>> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it could
>>>>>> be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll never regain
>>>>>> my touch?
>>>>>> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?
>>>>> Wendy gave a good answer below, I agree with what she is saying.
>>>>> Patience is required.
>>>>> It sounds like you changed your string and tension...is that correct?
>>>>> Not sure when you said 'new strings' if you meant a different type or
>>>>> just that you restrung and those are new strings of the same type as
>>>>> before.
>>>>> Either way, I would suggest that more than a few outings are necessary
>>>>> to adjust. In the years that I have played, I have gone from stringing
>>>>> in the high 70's to stringing in the low 50's. The adjustment can be
>>>>> done, and I agree with you that there are some nice benefits to the
>>>>> lower tension. But think of it this way, the longer you have used the
>>>>> same string/tension/racquet combo, the longer it will take to adjust.
>>>>> Just curious, what string are you using?
>>>>> If you did switch, are you using a poly or hybrid?
>>>>> Do you string yourself? (Makes it easier and cheaper to experiment)
>>>>> Rodjk #613
>>>> The strings are also different - a hybrid I can't recall the name - will
>>>> check with the pro but the long strings are tougher than the cross.
>>>> Like I said I have played well with lower tensions in the past, just
>>>> couldn't remember how long it took. I've probably had 6 or 7 lengthy
>>>> outings now (+5 hrs) but still surprised some routine shots are going
>>>> long & wide, & also losing some touch on the volleys.
>>>> I'll stick with it another month & if no improvement I'll get them
>>>> replaced with higher tension.
>>> The type of hybrid can change things a lot.
>>> Generally, if you go to a poly you are advised to drop your tension at
>>> least 5 lbs/2.26 kg (I think I did that conversion right. You are in
>>> Australia, so use metric, right? Maybe not, since you mentioned
>>> pounds, but I put both to be sure)
>> I'm in Oz & we use lbs for string tension - arnab could probably tell
>> you why.
>
> Ok, that makes it easier. Seems to me that when we went to Oz they
> mostly used the metric system, but maybe that was just distances and
> temperature.
>
>>> Do you hit a lot of spin? If you do, normally the problem is hitting
>>> short, not long. If you don't hit a lot of topspin, I would think the
>>> poly would cause you to hit long. Since we are not sure what you use,
>>> its hard to say.
>> I don't hit a lot of spin on my bread & butter (more slice & flattish
>> strokes) so you're probably right about the poly sending it long. At
>> times I'll hit a shot with a lot of spin & results vary - from perfect
>> winner with lots of power, to sending it long - guess it will just take
>> playing a lot to get used to the nuances.
>
> Ok. Yeah, the string is probably making more of a difference to you
> rather than the tension. More on that below.
>
>>> May be a good idea to only go down a few lbs/kg at a time, rather than
>>> 9 lbs/4.08 kg all at once. That is a lot of tension to adjust to, and
>>> with a new type string also it is no wonder you are having some
>>> problems adjusting.
>> Sure, but I used same or slightly lower tension yrs ago & figured it
>> would be easy to adjust because of that experience - I figured wrong.
>
> Probably not so much the tension as the poly, or a combination of
> both. Did you find out what they used?
>
> Poly makes a big difference. Dropping 9 lbs of tension and going to
> poly would give anyone fits.
>
>>
>>> I play with the Babolet Aeropro Cortex (Nadal's racquet) with
>>> Cyberflash mains (1.22) and Gosen crosses (1.20) strung at around 52
>>> lbs/23.58. (I tend to jump around in tension. Anywhere from 48 lbs to
>>> 55 lbs depending on my mood.) I was stringing it at about 58 lbs
>>> before going to the Cyberflash mains.
>>> Rodjk #613
>> 52 lbs is pretty low - how do find that compared to the 58 lbs?
>
> Not so bad for me. I tend to hit lots of topspin off both sides, and
> mostly play s/v. The drop I took was less severe than yours (3 lbs
> less) and since I hit with a lot of topspin I found that the poly
> helps pull the ball into the court. Hence I hit a bit higher and a bit
> harder, trusting that the extra spin pulls the ball into the court.
>
> Oh, one other thing. Poly tends to go dead fairly quick. I find that
> if I don't break a string within 2-3 weeks, I have to cut them out.
> There's nothing like a fresh string job with poly, but the snappy feel
> does not last long.
>
> Luxilon is the 'hot' string now, but it is too expensive. $200+ for a
> 660 reel? I can get the cyperflash for $67 for a 660 reel and, to me
> anyway, the play is similar to Lux. That is also the reason I use 18
> gage string. If I am playing a lot I usually break strings right
> around the 2 week mark anyway. Any longer than that and I cut them
> out. So no sense in going to a thicker string.
>
> Rodjk #613


Ok I'll take all that on board - thanks.


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 13:22:56
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
On Jan 6, 12:32=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Rodjk #613 wrote:
> > On Jan 6, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from 59=
&
> >> am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
>
> >> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
> >> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
> >> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control whi=
ch
> >> is really annoying me.
>
> >> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
> >> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it coul=
d
> >> be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll never regai=
n
> >> my touch?
>
> >> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?
>
> > Wendy gave a good answer below, I agree with what she is saying.
> > Patience is required.
>
> > It sounds like you changed your string and tension...is that correct?
> > Not sure when you said 'new strings' if you meant a different type or
> > just that you restrung and those are new strings of the same type as
> > before.
>
> > Either way, I would suggest that more than a few outings are necessary
> > to adjust. In the years that I have played, I have gone from stringing
> > in the high 70's to stringing in the low 50's. The adjustment can be
> > done, and I agree with you that there are some nice benefits to the
> > lower tension. But think of it this way, the longer you have used the
> > same string/tension/racquet combo, the longer it will take to adjust.
>
> > Just curious, what string are you using?
> > If you did switch, are you using a poly or hybrid?
> > Do you string yourself? (Makes it easier and cheaper to experiment)
>
> > Rodjk #613
>
> The strings are also different - a hybrid I can't recall the name - will
> check with the pro but the long strings are tougher than the cross.
> Like I said I have played well with lower tensions in the past, just
> couldn't remember how long it took. =A0I've probably had 6 or 7 lengthy
> outings now (+5 hrs) but still surprised some routine shots are going
> long & wide, & also losing some touch on the volleys.
>
> I'll stick with it another month & if no improvement I'll get them
> replaced with higher tension.

The type of hybrid can change things a lot.
Generally, if you go to a poly you are advised to drop your tension at
least 5 lbs/2.26 kg (I think I did that conversion right. You are in
Australia, so use metric, right? Maybe not, since you mentioned
pounds, but I put both to be sure)

Do you hit a lot of spin? If you do, normally the problem is hitting
short, not long. If you don't hit a lot of topspin, I would think the
poly would cause you to hit long. Since we are not sure what you use,
its hard to say.

May be a good idea to only go down a few lbs/kg at a time, rather than
9 lbs/4.08 kg all at once. That is a lot of tension to adjust to, and
with a new type string also it is no wonder you are having some
problems adjusting.

I play with the Babolet Aeropro Cortex (Nadal's racquet) with
Cyberflash mains (1.22) and Gosen crosses (1.20) strung at around 52
lbs/23.58. (I tend to jump around in tension. Anywhere from 48 lbs to
55 lbs depending on my mood.) I was stringing it at about 58 lbs
before going to the Cyberflash mains.

Rodjk #613



  
Date: 07 Jan 2009 19:45:39
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
Rodjk #613 wrote:
> On Jan 6, 12:32 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Rodjk #613 wrote:
>>> On Jan 6, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from 59 &
>>>> am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
>>>> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
>>>> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
>>>> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control which
>>>> is really annoying me.
>>>> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
>>>> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it could
>>>> be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll never regain
>>>> my touch?
>>>> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?
>>> Wendy gave a good answer below, I agree with what she is saying.
>>> Patience is required.
>>> It sounds like you changed your string and tension...is that correct?
>>> Not sure when you said 'new strings' if you meant a different type or
>>> just that you restrung and those are new strings of the same type as
>>> before.
>>> Either way, I would suggest that more than a few outings are necessary
>>> to adjust. In the years that I have played, I have gone from stringing
>>> in the high 70's to stringing in the low 50's. The adjustment can be
>>> done, and I agree with you that there are some nice benefits to the
>>> lower tension. But think of it this way, the longer you have used the
>>> same string/tension/racquet combo, the longer it will take to adjust.
>>> Just curious, what string are you using?
>>> If you did switch, are you using a poly or hybrid?
>>> Do you string yourself? (Makes it easier and cheaper to experiment)
>>> Rodjk #613
>> The strings are also different - a hybrid I can't recall the name - will
>> check with the pro but the long strings are tougher than the cross.
>> Like I said I have played well with lower tensions in the past, just
>> couldn't remember how long it took. I've probably had 6 or 7 lengthy
>> outings now (+5 hrs) but still surprised some routine shots are going
>> long & wide, & also losing some touch on the volleys.
>>
>> I'll stick with it another month & if no improvement I'll get them
>> replaced with higher tension.
>
> The type of hybrid can change things a lot.
> Generally, if you go to a poly you are advised to drop your tension at
> least 5 lbs/2.26 kg (I think I did that conversion right. You are in
> Australia, so use metric, right? Maybe not, since you mentioned
> pounds, but I put both to be sure)


I'm in Oz & we use lbs for string tension - arnab could probably tell
you why.


>
> Do you hit a lot of spin? If you do, normally the problem is hitting
> short, not long. If you don't hit a lot of topspin, I would think the
> poly would cause you to hit long. Since we are not sure what you use,
> its hard to say.


I don't hit a lot of spin on my bread & butter (more slice & flattish
strokes) so you're probably right about the poly sending it long. At
times I'll hit a shot with a lot of spin & results vary - from perfect
winner with lots of power, to sending it long - guess it will just take
playing a lot to get used to the nuances.


>
> May be a good idea to only go down a few lbs/kg at a time, rather than
> 9 lbs/4.08 kg all at once. That is a lot of tension to adjust to, and
> with a new type string also it is no wonder you are having some
> problems adjusting.


Sure, but I used same or slightly lower tension yrs ago & figured it
would be easy to adjust because of that experience - I figured wrong.



>
> I play with the Babolet Aeropro Cortex (Nadal's racquet) with
> Cyberflash mains (1.22) and Gosen crosses (1.20) strung at around 52
> lbs/23.58. (I tend to jump around in tension. Anywhere from 48 lbs to
> 55 lbs depending on my mood.) I was stringing it at about 58 lbs
> before going to the Cyberflash mains.
>
> Rodjk #613
>




52 lbs is pretty low - how do find that compared to the 58 lbs?


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 07:03:30
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
On Jan 6, 6:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from 59 &
> am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
>
> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control which
> is really annoying me.
>
> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it could
> be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll never regain
> my touch?
>
> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?

Wendy gave a good answer below, I agree with what she is saying.
Patience is required.

It sounds like you changed your string and tension...is that correct?
Not sure when you said 'new strings' if you meant a different type or
just that you restrung and those are new strings of the same type as
before.

Either way, I would suggest that more than a few outings are necessary
to adjust. In the years that I have played, I have gone from stringing
in the high 70's to stringing in the low 50's. The adjustment can be
done, and I agree with you that there are some nice benefits to the
lower tension. But think of it this way, the longer you have used the
same string/tension/racquet combo, the longer it will take to adjust.

Just curious, what string are you using?
If you did switch, are you using a poly or hybrid?
Do you string yourself? (Makes it easier and cheaper to experiment)

Rodjk #613


  
Date: 07 Jan 2009 05:32:08
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
Rodjk #613 wrote:
> On Jan 6, 6:28 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from 59 &
>> am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
>>
>> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
>> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
>> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control which
>> is really annoying me.
>>
>> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
>> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it could
>> be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll never regain
>> my touch?
>>
>> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?
>
> Wendy gave a good answer below, I agree with what she is saying.
> Patience is required.
>
> It sounds like you changed your string and tension...is that correct?
> Not sure when you said 'new strings' if you meant a different type or
> just that you restrung and those are new strings of the same type as
> before.
>
> Either way, I would suggest that more than a few outings are necessary
> to adjust. In the years that I have played, I have gone from stringing
> in the high 70's to stringing in the low 50's. The adjustment can be
> done, and I agree with you that there are some nice benefits to the
> lower tension. But think of it this way, the longer you have used the
> same string/tension/racquet combo, the longer it will take to adjust.
>
> Just curious, what string are you using?
> If you did switch, are you using a poly or hybrid?
> Do you string yourself? (Makes it easier and cheaper to experiment)
>
> Rodjk #613


The strings are also different - a hybrid I can't recall the name - will
check with the pro but the long strings are tougher than the cross.
Like I said I have played well with lower tensions in the past, just
couldn't remember how long it took. I've probably had 6 or 7 lengthy
outings now (+5 hrs) but still surprised some routine shots are going
long & wide, & also losing some touch on the volleys.

I'll stick with it another month & if no improvement I'll get them
replaced with higher tension.


   
Date: 06 Jan 2009 14:22:12
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:32:08 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote:

>The strings are also different - a hybrid I can't recall the name - will
>check with the pro but the long strings are tougher than the cross.
>Like I said I have played well with lower tensions in the past, just
>couldn't remember how long it took. I've probably had 6 or 7 lengthy
>outings now (+5 hrs) but still surprised some routine shots are going
>long & wide, & also losing some touch on the volleys.

Firstly, 59 to 50 is a *huge* change. Dropping five pounds would have been a
much more reasonable step. I'd recommend having one racquet restrung at 54/55
and seeing how you like that.

Secondly, going to hybrid stringing with something like Luxilon causes a loss of
touch all by itself. Combine this with a significant drop in tension, and what
you're experiencing should be no surprise.

Hybrid (Luxilon) mains seem to do best for most people with a very forgiving
string in the crosses -- something like Prince Syn Gut 17 or Wilson NXT 17 are
popular around here. If you've chosen a stiffer synthetic for the crosses,
you're aggravating the situation.

The book is that muscle memory takes on the order of 60 days to modify. And
since you're getting older, you shouldn't necessarily expect change to be
assimilated as easily as it was in the past.

I'm using Big Banger ALU mains and NXT crosses at 53 and 55 right now, and I
wouldn't want to go any lower. I warm up and start the first set with the 53,
and then switch to 55 as the ancient body starts to flow.

Good luck.

-- Larry (went through all this a year and a half ago...)

pps: oh, shit. I just replied to a Whisper post. Well, so much for 2009.


    
Date: 07 Jan 2009 07:12:42
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
pltrgyst wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:32:08 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>> The strings are also different - a hybrid I can't recall the name - will
>> check with the pro but the long strings are tougher than the cross.
>> Like I said I have played well with lower tensions in the past, just
>> couldn't remember how long it took. I've probably had 6 or 7 lengthy
>> outings now (+5 hrs) but still surprised some routine shots are going
>> long & wide, & also losing some touch on the volleys.
>
> Firstly, 59 to 50 is a *huge* change. Dropping five pounds would have been a
> much more reasonable step. I'd recommend having one racquet restrung at 54/55
> and seeing how you like that.
>
> Secondly, going to hybrid stringing with something like Luxilon causes a loss of
> touch all by itself. Combine this with a significant drop in tension, and what
> you're experiencing should be no surprise.
>
> Hybrid (Luxilon) mains seem to do best for most people with a very forgiving
> string in the crosses -- something like Prince Syn Gut 17 or Wilson NXT 17 are
> popular around here. If you've chosen a stiffer synthetic for the crosses,
> you're aggravating the situation.
>
> The book is that muscle memory takes on the order of 60 days to modify. And
> since you're getting older, you shouldn't necessarily expect change to be
> assimilated as easily as it was in the past.
>
> I'm using Big Banger ALU mains and NXT crosses at 53 and 55 right now, and I
> wouldn't want to go any lower. I warm up and start the first set with the 53,
> and then switch to 55 as the ancient body starts to flow.
>



Thanks. I'll discuss with the pro.


 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 08:49:41
From:
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
In article <49634e6b$0$28491$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au >,
beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:

>
> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from
> 59 & am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.

50, and not 45, like McEnroe? :)

>
> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control
> which is really annoying me.

Well, that's the standard trade-off - lower tension, more power but less
control; higher tension, less power but more control.

>
> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it
> could be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll
> never regain my touch?
>
> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?
>

When I had an elbow injury a few years ago as part of the recovery I
dropped the tension a lot on my strings. It *does* take time to get used
to it, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't adjust eventually. You can't
expect to retrain your muscles that fast if they're used to reacting in a
certain way. You're just going to have to practice and concentrate more on
how you're hitting the ball for a while.

wg




  
Date: 07 Jan 2009 05:27:11
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article <49634e6b$0$28491$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
> beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>
>> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from
>> 59 & am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
>
> 50, and not 45, like McEnroe? :)
>


I think his was 43.



>> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
>> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
>> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control
>> which is really annoying me.
>
> Well, that's the standard trade-off - lower tension, more power but less
> control; higher tension, less power but more control.
>
>> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
>> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it
>> could be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll
>> never regain my touch?
>>
>> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?
>>
>
> When I had an elbow injury a few years ago as part of the recovery I
> dropped the tension a lot on my strings. It *does* take time to get used
> to it, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't adjust eventually. You can't
> expect to retrain your muscles that fast if they're used to reacting in a
> certain way. You're just going to have to practice and concentrate more on
> how you're hitting the ball for a while.
>
> wg
>
>


I had used lower tensions in the past & played well, but had different
rackets so that's another issue.

I do expect to get used to it, just with my talent I figured it would
only take a week or so - might be a month or 2.




   
Date: 06 Jan 2009 19:00:26
From:
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
In article <4963a281$0$28515$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au >,
beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:

>
> I had used lower tensions in the past & played well, but had
> different rackets so that's another issue.
>
> I do expect to get used to it, just with my talent I figured it
> would only take a week or so - might be a month or 2.
>
>

You're getting less adaptable as you get older? :)

wg


  
Date: 06 Jan 2009 15:31:03
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article <49634e6b$0$28491$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
> beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>
>> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from
>> 59 & am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
>
> 50, and not 45, like McEnroe? :)
>
>> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
>> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
>> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control
>> which is really annoying me.
>
> Well, that's the standard trade-off - lower tension, more power but less
> control; higher tension, less power but more control.
>
>> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
>> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it
>> could be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll
>> never regain my touch?
>>
>> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?
>>
>
> When I had an elbow injury a few years ago as part of the recovery I
> dropped the tension a lot on my strings. It *does* take time to get used
> to it, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't adjust eventually. You can't
> expect to retrain your muscles that fast if they're used to reacting in a
> certain way. You're just going to have to practice and concentrate more on
> how you're hitting the ball for a while.
>
> wg
>
>

With the new strings, Whisper must have had a couple of matches where
the opponent almost won a game or two in a set? With his current level
of 12 to 15 matches a day (and a round or two of golf and a few hundred
laps in a pool), that seems likely.

His perfect string of 5555 perfect sets (or is it some other number?)
will be coming to an end soon. How deflating!

--
Cheers,

vc


   
Date: 07 Jan 2009 05:33:34
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
Vari L. Cinicke wrote:
> wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
>> In article
>> <49634e6b$0$28491$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
>> beaver999@ozemail.com.au (Whisper) wrote:
>>
>>> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from
>>> 59 & am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
>>
>> 50, and not 45, like McEnroe? :)
>>
>>> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
>>> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
>>> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control
>>> which is really annoying me.
>>
>> Well, that's the standard trade-off - lower tension, more power but
>> less control; higher tension, less power but more control.
>>> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
>>> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it
>>> could be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll
>>> never regain my touch?
>>>
>>> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?
>>>
>>
>> When I had an elbow injury a few years ago as part of the recovery I
>> dropped the tension a lot on my strings. It *does* take time to get
>> used to it, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't adjust eventually.
>> You can't expect to retrain your muscles that fast if they're used to
>> reacting in a certain way. You're just going to have to practice and
>> concentrate more on how you're hitting the ball for a while.
>>
>> wg
>>
>>
>
> With the new strings, Whisper must have had a couple of matches where
> the opponent almost won a game or two in a set? With his current level
> of 12 to 15 matches a day (and a round or two of golf and a few hundred
> laps in a pool), that seems likely.
>
> His perfect string of 5555 perfect sets (or is it some other number?)
> will be coming to an end soon. How deflating!
>


Naturally I've been losing more games, but the reasons are obvious. I'm
not concerned about losing to better play, but want my control back.



 
Date: 06 Jan 2009 04:43:46
From:
Subject: Re: Off topic - stringing question
On Jan 6, 7:28=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Wrong forum I know, but last restring I went down to 50 pounds from 59 &
> am having trouble with some shots I made blindfolded.
>
> eg sometimes just slicing back a routine 'safe' shot sails out by a
> couple feet. On the one hand I get more power on my serve & some
> groundie winners, but overall I seem to have lost a lot of control which
> is really annoying me.
>
> I want to persist until I get used to the new strings, as I believe
> lower poundage should in theory have some nice advantages, but it could
> be the lower poundage may not suit my racket at all & I'll never regain
> my touch?
>
> Anyone had similar experiences they'd like to share?

Give it at least two weeks. Google the racquet/string combination to
see if anyone else has had that problem.