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Date: 21 Feb 2009 06:22:25
From: Quincy
Subject: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
golden shower porn.




 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 17:26:39
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
On Feb 21, 4:48=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
> > On Feb 21, 2:02 pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 21 Feb, 20:56, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Feb 21, 8:20 am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Feb 21, 8:22 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
> >>>>> It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
> >>>>> golden shower porn.
> >>>> would you care to post those paths?
> >>> 1997:
> >>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> >>> Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 =A0 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
> >>> Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 =A0 6-1 6-2 6-2
> >>> Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 =A0 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
> >>> Becker, Boris (GER) 18 =A0 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
> >>> Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 =A0 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
> >>> Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-4
> >>> 1998:
> >>> Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 =A0 6-3 6-3 6-2
> >>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A =A0 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
> >>> Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 =A0 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
> >>> Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> >>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 =A0 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
> >>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 =A0 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
> >>> Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 =A0 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
> >>> 1999:
> >>> Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> >>> Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-3
> >>> Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
> >>> Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-2
> >>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 =A0 4-6 2-1 RET
> >>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 =A0 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
> >>> Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
> >>> 2000:
> >>> Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> >>> Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 =A0 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
> >>> Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 =A0 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
> >>> Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 =A0 6-3 6-2 7-5
> >>> Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 =A0 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
> >>> Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 =A0 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
> >>> Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 =A0 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
> >>> Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
> >>> draws .... bwhwhhahaha.
> >> That is because in the 1990s there was a huge disconnect between the
> >> majority of players and their abilities on grass (and why in earlier
> >> years there was a specific Wimbledon seeding, abandoned after pressure
> >> from the ATP).
>
> >> Not Sampras' fault, and of course the fact that players were low
> >> ranked just means they had games that were relatively better on grass
> >> than on other surfaces (mainly HC). So they were tougher opponents at
> >> Wimbledon than their rankings might indicate.
>
> >> The numbers reflect my own belief that in the 1990s Wimbledon was
> >> relatively competitively weak (many top players just didn't think they
> >> had a chance and went through their obligations to attend), but the
> >> new truer, higher bouncing surface has meant it is more competitive
> >> now. As an example
>
> >> In the period 1997-2000 the champion met 2 top 10 players, and 9 seeds
> >> in total. An average of 2 seeds per championship
>
> >> In the last four years (Nadal/Federer/Federer/Federer) the champion
> >> has met these rankings:
>
> >> 2008 =A0 =A0Q/-/-/27/17/12/-/1 (Q=3D qualifier; - unseeded)
> >> 2007 =A0 =A0-/-/26/13/20/12/2
> >> 2006 =A0 =A0-/-/-/13/7/-/2
> >> 2005 =A0 =A0-/-/25/23/21/3/2
>
> >> 6 top 10 players, 17 seeds.
>
> > Does this mean we can create a new category, the clown tournament? ;-)
>
> That covers 98% of current tournaments. =A0Anything with guys like Blake,
> Berdych & Ljubo types in top 10 is automatic joke event.

Now, now. You're starting to sound shrill.


 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 17:13:56
From:
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
On Feb 22, 12:48=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
> > On Feb 21, 2:02 pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 21 Feb, 20:56, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Feb 21, 8:20 am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Feb 21, 8:22 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
> >>>>> It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
> >>>>> golden shower porn.
> >>>> would you care to post those paths?
> >>> 1997:
> >>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> >>> Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 =A0 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
> >>> Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 =A0 6-1 6-2 6-2
> >>> Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 =A0 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
> >>> Becker, Boris (GER) 18 =A0 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
> >>> Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 =A0 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
> >>> Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-4
> >>> 1998:
> >>> Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 =A0 6-3 6-3 6-2
> >>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A =A0 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
> >>> Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 =A0 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
> >>> Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> >>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 =A0 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
> >>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 =A0 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
> >>> Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 =A0 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
> >>> 1999:
> >>> Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> >>> Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-3
> >>> Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
> >>> Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-2
> >>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 =A0 4-6 2-1 RET
> >>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 =A0 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
> >>> Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
> >>> 2000:
> >>> Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> >>> Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 =A0 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
> >>> Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 =A0 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
> >>> Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 =A0 6-3 6-2 7-5
> >>> Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 =A0 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
> >>> Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 =A0 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
> >>> Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 =A0 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
> >>> Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
> >>> draws .... bwhwhhahaha.
> >> That is because in the 1990s there was a huge disconnect between the
> >> majority of players and their abilities on grass (and why in earlier
> >> years there was a specific Wimbledon seeding, abandoned after pressure
> >> from the ATP).
>
> >> Not Sampras' fault, and of course the fact that players were low
> >> ranked just means they had games that were relatively better on grass
> >> than on other surfaces (mainly HC). So they were tougher opponents at
> >> Wimbledon than their rankings might indicate.
>
> >> The numbers reflect my own belief that in the 1990s Wimbledon was
> >> relatively competitively weak (many top players just didn't think they
> >> had a chance and went through their obligations to attend), but the
> >> new truer, higher bouncing surface has meant it is more competitive
> >> now. As an example
>
> >> In the period 1997-2000 the champion met 2 top 10 players, and 9 seeds
> >> in total. An average of 2 seeds per championship
>
> >> In the last four years (Nadal/Federer/Federer/Federer) the champion
> >> has met these rankings:
>
> >> 2008 =A0 =A0Q/-/-/27/17/12/-/1 (Q=3D qualifier; - unseeded)
> >> 2007 =A0 =A0-/-/26/13/20/12/2
> >> 2006 =A0 =A0-/-/-/13/7/-/2
> >> 2005 =A0 =A0-/-/25/23/21/3/2
>
> >> 6 top 10 players, 17 seeds.
>
> > Does this mean we can create a new category, the clown tournament? ;-)
>
> That covers 98% of current tournaments. =A0Anything with guys like Blake,
> Berdych & Ljubo types in top 10 is automatic joke event.

Berdych's highest ranking is #9, which he reached twice for a total of
5 weeks. He has been outside the top 10 for the vast majority of his
career.



  
Date: 22 Feb 2009 17:24:08
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 22, 12:48 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
>>> On Feb 21, 2:02 pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 21 Feb, 20:56, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 21, 8:20 am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 21, 8:22 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
>>>>>>> golden shower porn.
>>>>>> would you care to post those paths?
>>>>> 1997:
>>>>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 6-4 6-4 6-2
>>>>> Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
>>>>> Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 6-1 6-2 6-2
>>>>> Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
>>>>> Becker, Boris (GER) 18 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
>>>>> Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
>>>>> Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 6-4 6-2 6-4
>>>>> 1998:
>>>>> Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 6-3 6-3 6-2
>>>>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
>>>>> Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
>>>>> Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 6-3 6-4 6-4
>>>>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
>>>>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
>>>>> Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
>>>>> 1999:
>>>>> Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 6-3 6-4 6-4
>>>>> Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 6-4 6-2 6-3
>>>>> Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 6-3 6-4 7-5
>>>>> Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 6-3 6-4 6-2
>>>>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 4-6 2-1 RET
>>>>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
>>>>> Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 6-3 6-4 7-5
>>>>> 2000:
>>>>> Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 6-4 6-4 6-2
>>>>> Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
>>>>> Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
>>>>> Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 6-3 6-2 7-5
>>>>> Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
>>>>> Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
>>>>> Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
>>>>> Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
>>>>> draws .... bwhwhhahaha.
>>>> That is because in the 1990s there was a huge disconnect between the
>>>> majority of players and their abilities on grass (and why in earlier
>>>> years there was a specific Wimbledon seeding, abandoned after pressure
>>>> from the ATP).
>>>> Not Sampras' fault, and of course the fact that players were low
>>>> ranked just means they had games that were relatively better on grass
>>>> than on other surfaces (mainly HC). So they were tougher opponents at
>>>> Wimbledon than their rankings might indicate.
>>>> The numbers reflect my own belief that in the 1990s Wimbledon was
>>>> relatively competitively weak (many top players just didn't think they
>>>> had a chance and went through their obligations to attend), but the
>>>> new truer, higher bouncing surface has meant it is more competitive
>>>> now. As an example
>>>> In the period 1997-2000 the champion met 2 top 10 players, and 9 seeds
>>>> in total. An average of 2 seeds per championship
>>>> In the last four years (Nadal/Federer/Federer/Federer) the champion
>>>> has met these rankings:
>>>> 2008 Q/-/-/27/17/12/-/1 (Q= qualifier; - unseeded)
>>>> 2007 -/-/26/13/20/12/2
>>>> 2006 -/-/-/13/7/-/2
>>>> 2005 -/-/25/23/21/3/2
>>>> 6 top 10 players, 17 seeds.
>>> Does this mean we can create a new category, the clown tournament? ;-)
>> That covers 98% of current tournaments. Anything with guys like Blake,
>> Berdych & Ljubo types in top 10 is automatic joke event.
>
> Berdych's highest ranking is #9, which he reached twice for a total of
> 5 weeks. He has been outside the top 10 for the vast majority of his
> career.
>


Small mercies.



 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 15:20:47
From: Rodjk #613
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
On Feb 21, 4:02=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 21 Feb, 20:56, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 8:20=A0am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 8:22=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > > It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
> > > > golden shower porn.
>
> > > would you care to post those paths?
>
> > 1997:
>
> > Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> > Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 =A0 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
> > Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 =A0 6-1 6-2 6-2
> > Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 =A0 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
> > Becker, Boris (GER) 18 =A0 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
> > Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 =A0 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
> > Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-4
>
> > 1998:
>
> > Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 =A0 6-3 6-3 6-2
> > Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A =A0 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
> > Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 =A0 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
> > Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> > Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 =A0 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
> > Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 =A0 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
> > Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 =A0 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
>
> > 1999:
>
> > Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> > Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-3
> > Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
> > Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-2
> > Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 =A0 4-6 2-1 RET
> > Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 =A0 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
> > Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
>
> > 2000:
>
> > Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> > Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 =A0 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
> > Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 =A0 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
> > Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 =A0 6-3 6-2 7-5
> > Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 =A0 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
> > Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 =A0 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
> > Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 =A0 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
>
> > Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
> > draws .... bwhwhhahaha.
>
> That is because in the 1990s there was a huge disconnect between the
> majority of players and their abilities on grass (and why in earlier
> years there was a specific Wimbledon seeding, abandoned after pressure
> from the ATP).
>
> Not Sampras' fault, and of course the fact that players were low
> ranked just means they had games that were relatively better on grass
> than on other surfaces (mainly HC). So they were tougher opponents at
> Wimbledon than their rankings might indicate.
>
> The numbers reflect my own belief that in the 1990s Wimbledon was
> relatively competitively weak (many top players just didn't think they
> had a chance and went through their obligations to attend), but the
> new truer, higher bouncing surface has meant it is more competitive
> now. As an example
>
> In the period 1997-2000 the champion met 2 top 10 players, and 9 seeds
> in total. An average of 2 seeds per championship
>
> In the last four years (Nadal/Federer/Federer/Federer) the champion
> has met these rankings:
>
> 2008 =A0 =A0Q/-/-/27/17/12/-/1 (Q=3D qualifier; - unseeded)
> 2007 =A0 =A0-/-/26/13/20/12/2
> 2006 =A0 =A0-/-/-/13/7/-/2
> 2005 =A0 =A0-/-/25/23/21/3/2
>
> 6 top 10 players, 17 seeds.

When did they start seeding 32 players?

Rodjk #613


 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 14:51:54
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
On Feb 21, 2:02=A0pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 21 Feb, 20:56, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 8:20=A0am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 21, 8:22=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > > It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
> > > > golden shower porn.
>
> > > would you care to post those paths?
>
> > 1997:
>
> > Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> > Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 =A0 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
> > Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 =A0 6-1 6-2 6-2
> > Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 =A0 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
> > Becker, Boris (GER) 18 =A0 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
> > Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 =A0 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
> > Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-4
>
> > 1998:
>
> > Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 =A0 6-3 6-3 6-2
> > Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A =A0 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
> > Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 =A0 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
> > Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> > Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 =A0 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
> > Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 =A0 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
> > Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 =A0 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
>
> > 1999:
>
> > Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> > Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-3
> > Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
> > Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-2
> > Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 =A0 4-6 2-1 RET
> > Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 =A0 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
> > Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
>
> > 2000:
>
> > Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> > Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 =A0 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
> > Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 =A0 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
> > Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 =A0 6-3 6-2 7-5
> > Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 =A0 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
> > Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 =A0 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
> > Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 =A0 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
>
> > Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
> > draws .... bwhwhhahaha.
>
> That is because in the 1990s there was a huge disconnect between the
> majority of players and their abilities on grass (and why in earlier
> years there was a specific Wimbledon seeding, abandoned after pressure
> from the ATP).
>
> Not Sampras' fault, and of course the fact that players were low
> ranked just means they had games that were relatively better on grass
> than on other surfaces (mainly HC). So they were tougher opponents at
> Wimbledon than their rankings might indicate.
>
> The numbers reflect my own belief that in the 1990s Wimbledon was
> relatively competitively weak (many top players just didn't think they
> had a chance and went through their obligations to attend), but the
> new truer, higher bouncing surface has meant it is more competitive
> now. As an example
>
> In the period 1997-2000 the champion met 2 top 10 players, and 9 seeds
> in total. An average of 2 seeds per championship
>
> In the last four years (Nadal/Federer/Federer/Federer) the champion
> has met these rankings:
>
> 2008 =A0 =A0Q/-/-/27/17/12/-/1 (Q=3D qualifier; - unseeded)
> 2007 =A0 =A0-/-/26/13/20/12/2
> 2006 =A0 =A0-/-/-/13/7/-/2
> 2005 =A0 =A0-/-/25/23/21/3/2
>
> 6 top 10 players, 17 seeds.

Does this mean we can create a new category, the clown tournament? ;-)


  
Date: 22 Feb 2009 11:48:17
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2:02 pm, topspin <goolagong...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 21 Feb, 20:56, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 21, 8:20 am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 21, 8:22 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>>>> It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
>>>>> golden shower porn.
>>>> would you care to post those paths?
>>> 1997:
>>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 6-4 6-4 6-2
>>> Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
>>> Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 6-1 6-2 6-2
>>> Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
>>> Becker, Boris (GER) 18 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
>>> Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
>>> Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 6-4 6-2 6-4
>>> 1998:
>>> Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 6-3 6-3 6-2
>>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
>>> Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
>>> Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 6-3 6-4 6-4
>>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
>>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
>>> Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
>>> 1999:
>>> Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 6-3 6-4 6-4
>>> Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 6-4 6-2 6-3
>>> Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 6-3 6-4 7-5
>>> Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 6-3 6-4 6-2
>>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 4-6 2-1 RET
>>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
>>> Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 6-3 6-4 7-5
>>> 2000:
>>> Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 6-4 6-4 6-2
>>> Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
>>> Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
>>> Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 6-3 6-2 7-5
>>> Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
>>> Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
>>> Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
>>> Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
>>> draws .... bwhwhhahaha.
>> That is because in the 1990s there was a huge disconnect between the
>> majority of players and their abilities on grass (and why in earlier
>> years there was a specific Wimbledon seeding, abandoned after pressure
>> from the ATP).
>>
>> Not Sampras' fault, and of course the fact that players were low
>> ranked just means they had games that were relatively better on grass
>> than on other surfaces (mainly HC). So they were tougher opponents at
>> Wimbledon than their rankings might indicate.
>>
>> The numbers reflect my own belief that in the 1990s Wimbledon was
>> relatively competitively weak (many top players just didn't think they
>> had a chance and went through their obligations to attend), but the
>> new truer, higher bouncing surface has meant it is more competitive
>> now. As an example
>>
>> In the period 1997-2000 the champion met 2 top 10 players, and 9 seeds
>> in total. An average of 2 seeds per championship
>>
>> In the last four years (Nadal/Federer/Federer/Federer) the champion
>> has met these rankings:
>>
>> 2008 Q/-/-/27/17/12/-/1 (Q= qualifier; - unseeded)
>> 2007 -/-/26/13/20/12/2
>> 2006 -/-/-/13/7/-/2
>> 2005 -/-/25/23/21/3/2
>>
>> 6 top 10 players, 17 seeds.
>
> Does this mean we can create a new category, the clown tournament? ;-)


That covers 98% of current tournaments. Anything with guys like Blake,
Berdych & Ljubo types in top 10 is automatic joke event.



 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 14:02:39
From: topspin
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
On 21 Feb, 20:56, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 8:20=A0am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 21, 8:22=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
> > > golden shower porn.
>
> > would you care to post those paths?
>
> 1997:
>
> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 =A0 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
> Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 =A0 6-1 6-2 6-2
> Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 =A0 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
> Becker, Boris (GER) 18 =A0 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
> Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 =A0 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
> Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-4
>
> 1998:
>
> Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 =A0 6-3 6-3 6-2
> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A =A0 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
> Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 =A0 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
> Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 =A0 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
> Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 =A0 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
> Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 =A0 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
>
> 1999:
>
> Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-3
> Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
> Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-2
> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 =A0 4-6 2-1 RET
> Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 =A0 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
> Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
>
> 2000:
>
> Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 =A0 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
> Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 =A0 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
> Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 =A0 6-3 6-2 7-5
> Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 =A0 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
> Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 =A0 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
> Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 =A0 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
>
> Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
> draws .... bwhwhhahaha.

That is because in the 1990s there was a huge disconnect between the
majority of players and their abilities on grass (and why in earlier
years there was a specific Wimbledon seeding, abandoned after pressure
from the ATP).

Not Sampras' fault, and of course the fact that players were low
ranked just means they had games that were relatively better on grass
than on other surfaces (mainly HC). So they were tougher opponents at
Wimbledon than their rankings might indicate.

The numbers reflect my own belief that in the 1990s Wimbledon was
relatively competitively weak (many top players just didn't think they
had a chance and went through their obligations to attend), but the
new truer, higher bouncing surface has meant it is more competitive
now. As an example

In the period 1997-2000 the champion met 2 top 10 players, and 9 seeds
in total. An average of 2 seeds per championship

In the last four years (Nadal/Federer/Federer/Federer) the champion
has met these rankings:

2008 Q/-/-/27/17/12/-/1 (Q=3D qualifier; - unseeded)
2007 -/-/26/13/20/12/2
2006 -/-/-/13/7/-/2
2005 -/-/25/23/21/3/2

6 top 10 players, 17 seeds.



 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 13:49:30
From: Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
On Feb 21, 2:56=A0pm, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 8:20=A0am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 21, 8:22=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
> > > golden shower porn.
>
> > would you care to post those paths?
>
> 1997:
>
> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 =A0 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
> Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 =A0 6-1 6-2 6-2
> Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 =A0 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
> Becker, Boris (GER) 18 =A0 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
> Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 =A0 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
> Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-4
>
> 1998:
>
> Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 =A0 6-3 6-3 6-2
> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A =A0 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
> Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 =A0 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
> Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 =A0 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
> Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 =A0 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
> Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 =A0 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2

This was probably the worst path to victory ever... oh wait...
>
> 1999:
>
> Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-4
> Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 =A0 6-4 6-2 6-3
> Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
> Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 =A0 6-3 6-4 6-2
> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 =A0 4-6 2-1 RET
> Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 =A0 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
> Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 =A0 6-3 6-4 7-5
>
> 2000:
>
> Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 =A0 6-4 6-4 6-2
> Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 =A0 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
> Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 =A0 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
> Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 =A0 6-3 6-2 7-5
> Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 =A0 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
> Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 =A0 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
> Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 =A0 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2

This is it... this definitely is!
>
> Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
> draws .... bwhwhhahaha.



 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 12:56:00
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
On Feb 21, 8:20=A0am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 21, 8:22=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
> > golden shower porn.
>
> would you care to post those paths?

1997:

Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 6-4 6-4 6-2
Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 6-1 6-2 6-2
Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
Becker, Boris (GER) 18 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 6-4 6-2 6-4

1998:

Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 6-3 6-3 6-2
Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 6-3 6-4 6-4
Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2

1999:

Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 6-3 6-4 6-4
Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 6-4 6-2 6-3
Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 6-3 6-4 7-5
Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 6-3 6-4 6-2
Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 4-6 2-1 RET
Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 6-3 6-4 7-5

2000:

Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 6-4 6-4 6-2
Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 6-3 6-2 7-5
Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2

Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
draws .... bwhwhhahaha.


  
Date: 22 Feb 2009 02:56:09
From: Bink B
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
> On Feb 21, 8:20 am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 21, 8:22 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>>> It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
>>> golden shower porn.
>> would you care to post those paths?
>
> 1997:
>
> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 6-4 6-4 6-2
> Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
> Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 6-1 6-2 6-2
> Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
> Becker, Boris (GER) 18 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
> Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
> Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 6-4 6-2 6-4
>
> 1998:
>
> Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 6-3 6-3 6-2
> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
> Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
> Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 6-3 6-4 6-4
> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
> Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
> Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
>
> 1999:
>
> Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 6-3 6-4 6-4
> Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 6-4 6-2 6-3
> Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 6-3 6-4 7-5
> Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 6-3 6-4 6-2
> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 4-6 2-1 RET
> Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
> Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 6-3 6-4 7-5
>
> 2000:
>
> Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 6-4 6-4 6-2
> Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
> Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
> Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 6-3 6-2 7-5
> Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
> Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
> Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
>
> Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
> draws .... bwhwhhahaha.

Which is why clown era stuff is ridiculous from all sides. You play who
you play whether it was 1950, 1975 or 2000 and that's all you can do.
This clown crap or Whispers clown crap just shows tennis history
ignorance. As does points for slams and counting only slams in all eras.
Base things on wins in the biggest events of their day against peers and
have done with it.


   
Date: 22 Feb 2009 11:20:12
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his Wimbledon wins 97-2000.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:56:09 -0800, Bink B <dungwad@disney.com > wrote:

>Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
>> On Feb 21, 8:20 am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 21, 8:22 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
>>>> golden shower porn.
>>> would you care to post those paths?
>>
>> 1997:
>>
>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 6-4 6-4 6-2
>> Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
>> Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 6-1 6-2 6-2
>> Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
>> Becker, Boris (GER) 18 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
>> Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
>> Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 6-4 6-2 6-4
>>
>> 1998:
>>
>> Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 6-3 6-3 6-2
>> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
>> Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
>> Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 6-3 6-4 6-4
>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
>> Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
>>
>> 1999:
>>
>> Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 6-3 6-4 6-4
>> Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 6-4 6-2 6-3
>> Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 6-3 6-4 7-5
>> Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 6-3 6-4 6-2
>> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 4-6 2-1 RET
>> Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
>> Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 6-3 6-4 7-5
>>
>> 2000:
>>
>> Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 6-4 6-4 6-2
>> Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
>> Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
>> Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 6-3 6-2 7-5
>> Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
>> Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
>> Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
>>
>> Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
>> draws .... bwhwhhahaha.
>
>Which is why clown era stuff is ridiculous from all sides. You play who
>you play whether it was 1950, 1975 or 2000 and that's all you can do.
>This clown crap or Whispers clown crap just shows tennis history
>ignorance. As does points for slams and counting only slams in all eras.
>Base things on wins in the biggest events of their day against peers and
>have done with it.


ah but then sampras wouldn't be the goat. whisper could never accept
it. a method can only be correct if sampras comes out on top ya see.


  
Date: 22 Feb 2009 11:47:04
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
> On Feb 21, 8:20 am, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 21, 8:22 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>
>>> It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
>>> golden shower porn.
>> would you care to post those paths?
>
> 1997:
>
> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) 54 6-4 6-4 6-2
> Dreekmann, Hendrik (GER) 78 7-6(2) 7-5 7-5
> Black, Byron (ZIM) 65 6-1 6-2 6-2
> Korda, Petr (CZE) 24 6-4 6-3 6-7(8) 6-7(1) 6-4
> Becker, Boris (GER) 18 6-1 6-7(5) 6-1 6-4
> Woodbridge, Todd (AUS) 37 6-2 6-1 7-6(3)
> Pioline, Cedric (FRA) 44 6-4 6-2 6-4
>
> 1998:
>
> Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 46 6-3 6-3 6-2
> Tillstrom, Mikael (SWE) N/A 6-4 6-4 7-6(4)
> Enqvist, Thomas (SWE) 17 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(3)
> Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA) 117 6-3 6-4 6-4
> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 28 7-6(5) 6-4 6-4
> Henman, Tim (GBR) 18 6-3 4-6 7-5 6-3
> Ivanisevic, Goran (CRO) 25 6-7(2) 7-6(9) 6-4 3-6 6-2
>
> 1999:
>
> Draper, Scott (AUS) 75 6-3 6-4 6-4
> Lareau, Sebastien (CAN) 100 6-4 6-2 6-3
> Sapsford, Danny (GBR) 595 6-3 6-4 7-5
> Nestor, Daniel (CAN) 87 6-3 6-4 6-2
> Philippoussis, Mark (AUS) 11 4-6 2-1 RET
> Henman, Tim (GBR) 6 3-6 6-4 6-3 6-4
> Agassi, Andre (USA) 4 6-3 6-4 7-5
>
> 2000:
>
> Vanek, Jiri (CZE) 80 6-4 6-4 6-2
> Kucera, Karol (SVK) 44 7-6(9) 3-6 6-3 6-4
> Gimelstob, Justin (USA) 99 2-6 6-4 6-2 6-2
> Bjorkman, Jonas (SWE) 78 6-3 6-2 7-5
> Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA) 56 6-4 6-7(4) 6-4 6-4
> Voltchkov, Vladimir (BLR) 237 7-6(4) 6-2 6-4
> Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 21 6-7(10) 7-6(5) 6-4 6-2
>
> Faced TWO top 10 players in 28 matches. Now that's what I call tough
> draws .... bwhwhhahaha.



He woulda loved to have played today's top 10 players in every rd - easy
20 slam haul with little effort.



 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 22:35:40
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his Wimbledon wins 97-2000.
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:22:25 -0800 (PST), Quincy <abydr@email.de >
wrote:

>It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
>golden shower porn.

Well of course, just the analogy I was thinking...


 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 11:20:25
From: Quincy
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
On Feb 21, 5:20=A0pm, Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol <zepflo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 21, 8:22=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
> > golden shower porn.
>
> would you care to post those paths?

Yes I would. I have already much work to do with tier 1 analyses here
on RST.


 
Date: 21 Feb 2009 08:20:35
From: Led-Yes-Pin-Bea-Rol
Subject: Re: Oh my dear, I just had a look as Pete Sampras' paths for his
On Feb 21, 8:22=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> It's a shame for Tennis. Embarassing like seeing own daughter in a
> golden shower porn.

would you care to post those paths?