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Date: 27 Jan 2009 08:26:56
From: The Truth
Subject: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
Evidences haven been revealed.




 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 23:47:00
From: Quincy
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
On Jan 27, 11:54=A0pm, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 27, 5:17=A0pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 27, 7:39=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
> > > Professor X wrote:
> > > > On Jan 27, 4:26 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> > > >> Evidences haven been revealed.
>
> > > > Fed won his first slam at 18th attempt Murray has only played 13.
>
> > > Nadal won his 5th at 18th. His first at 6th.
>
> > Becker won his first slam at 4th attempt, so what?!
>
> Wilander won his first on his 3rd attempt.

Wilander was owned by Becker on every single important occasion, e.g.
6-2 6-0 6-2 in a Davis Cup Final.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=3D190999

Only on their FO SF, it was vice versa. Becker > Wilander by a small
margin.


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 10:42:17
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.

"Quincy" <abydr@email.de > wrote in message
news:6fa8082f-e7d2-4a10-9106-379efcd3facd@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 27, 11:54 pm, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 27, 5:17 pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 27, 7:39 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
> > > Professor X wrote:
> > > > On Jan 27, 4:26 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> > > >> Evidences haven been revealed.
>
> > > > Fed won his first slam at 18th attempt Murray has only played 13.
>
> > > Nadal won his 5th at 18th. His first at 6th.
>
> > Becker won his first slam at 4th attempt, so what?!
>
> Wilander won his first on his 3rd attempt.

Wilander was owned by Becker on every single important occasion, e.g.
6-2 6-0 6-2 in a Davis Cup Final.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=190999

Only on their FO SF, it was vice versa. Becker > Wilander by a small
margin.

***

32 > 26, not such a small gap




 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 15:07:40
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
On Jan 27, 5:24=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Quincy wrote:
> > On Jan 27, 7:39 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >> Professor X wrote:
> >>> On Jan 27, 4:26 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> >>>> Evidences haven been revealed.
> >>> Fed won his first slam at 18th attempt Murray has only played 13.
> >> Nadal won his 5th at 18th. His first at 6th.
>
> > Becker won his first slam at 4th attempt, so what?!
>
> So talent.

These are the youngest-launching (1st slam final) 6+ slam champs in
the open era:
Becker launched at age 17 years, 7 months. His last slam final came at
age 28.
Wilander launched at age 17 years, 9 months. His last slam final came
at age 24.
Borg launched at age 18. His last slam final came at age 25.
Sampras launched at age 19. His last slam final came at age 31.

Nadal launched at age 19. Do you think he is more like Sampras/Becker
(not that these guys demonstrated unusually good longevity by any
means), or like Borg/Wilander?

Joe Ramirez


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 17:24:42
From: TT
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
Joe Ramirez wrote:
> On Jan 27, 5:24 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> Quincy wrote:
>>> On Jan 27, 7:39 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>> Professor X wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 27, 4:26 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Evidences haven been revealed.
>>>>> Fed won his first slam at 18th attempt Murray has only played 13.
>>>> Nadal won his 5th at 18th. His first at 6th.
>>> Becker won his first slam at 4th attempt, so what?!
>> So talent.
>
> These are the youngest-launching (1st slam final) 6+ slam champs in
> the open era:
> Becker launched at age 17 years, 7 months. His last slam final came at
> age 28.
> Wilander launched at age 17 years, 9 months. His last slam final came
> at age 24.
> Borg launched at age 18. His last slam final came at age 25.
> Sampras launched at age 19. His last slam final came at age 31.
>
> Nadal launched at age 19. Do you think he is more like Sampras/Becker
> (not that these guys demonstrated unusually good longevity by any
> means), or like Borg/Wilander?
>
> Joe Ramirez

Becker

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 14:54:08
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
On Jan 27, 5:17=A0pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> On Jan 27, 7:39=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>
> > Professor X wrote:
> > > On Jan 27, 4:26 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> > >> Evidences haven been revealed.
>
> > > Fed won his first slam at 18th attempt Murray has only played 13.
>
> > Nadal won his 5th at 18th. His first at 6th.
>
> Becker won his first slam at 4th attempt, so what?!

Wilander won his first on his 3rd attempt.

Joe Ramirez


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 14:17:54
From: Quincy
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
On Jan 27, 7:39=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Professor X wrote:
> > On Jan 27, 4:26 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
> >> Evidences haven been revealed.
>
> > Fed won his first slam at 18th attempt Murray has only played 13.
>
> Nadal won his 5th at 18th. His first at 6th.

Becker won his first slam at 4th attempt, so what?!


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 00:24:50
From: TT
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
Quincy wrote:
> On Jan 27, 7:39 pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> Professor X wrote:
>>> On Jan 27, 4:26 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>>>> Evidences haven been revealed.
>>> Fed won his first slam at 18th attempt Murray has only played 13.
>> Nadal won his 5th at 18th. His first at 6th.
>
> Becker won his first slam at 4th attempt, so what?!

So talent.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 10:01:31
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
On Jan 27, 4:26=A0pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de > wrote:
> Evidences haven been revealed.

Fed won his first slam at 18th attempt Murray has only played 13.


  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 20:39:22
From: TT
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
Professor X wrote:
> On Jan 27, 4:26 pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>> Evidences haven been revealed.
>
> Fed won his first slam at 18th attempt Murray has only played 13.

Nadal won his 5th at 18th. His first at 6th.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 08:42:59
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
On Jan 27, 11:26=A0am, The Truth <ob...@web.de > wrote:
> Evidences haven been revealed.

But you *knew* Fed wasn't overrated after FO 2003, right? ;-)


 
Date: 27 Jan 2009 08:33:48
From: Patrick Kehoe
Subject: Re: Overrated players: Del Potro, Djokovic and even Murray.
On Jan 27, 8:26=A0am, The Truth <ob...@web.de > wrote:
> Evidences haven been revealed.

++ Just one (big) tourney... relax... :))

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