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Date: 23 Jan 2009 04:18:56
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
of being a ditch-digger.




 
Date: 25 Jan 2009 14:28:44
From: suckyasimple
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
They always said Safin liked ass and booze more than practising. And
the ass liked him, but the booze, not so much.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 09:59:10
From: williemeikle
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Jan 23, 4:07=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 24 Jan., 00:15, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Could Safin have had a more impressive career? Probably. Should he be
> > condemned as a profligate who threw away a half-dozen or more slams? I
> > don't think so.
>
> > Joe Ramirez
>
> Maybe Safin didn't throw away a half-dozen slams. But we will never
> know. Because he didn't even give himself the chance. That's the
> disappointing thing about him.
>
> In the third set of today's match against Federer, I saw Safin make a
> ridiculously effortless halfvolley pickup at the net, where the ball
> kind of bobbed up and landed on the other side of the net, and won him
> the point. And it all looked extremely easy. These are the kinds of
> telltale marks or signs that you see in extremely talented tennis
> players. You know that he has a way with the ball that very few else
> does. And then I look at his career and the first thought that comes
> to my mind is: What a ginormous waste! He didn't even give himself the
> opportunity just to see how good he could become.

There's an old story about the football player George Best that might
apply in Safin's case...

A hotel worker walks into a room and finds George Best, lying on a bed
of money, eating caviar and drinking champagne out of a naked Miss
World's navel. And the hotel worker says: "Mr Best, where did it all
go wrong?"

Willie

http://www.williammeikle.com



  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 14:09:54
From: Trevor Smithson
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:59:10 -0800 (PST), williemeikle
<meiklewilliam@yahoo.com > wrote:

>On Jan 23, 4:07 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 24 Jan., 00:15, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Could Safin have had a more impressive career? Probably. Should he be
>> > condemned as a profligate who threw away a half-dozen or more slams? I
>> > don't think so.
>>
>> > Joe Ramirez
>>
>> Maybe Safin didn't throw away a half-dozen slams. But we will never
>> know. Because he didn't even give himself the chance. That's the
>> disappointing thing about him.
>>
>> In the third set of today's match against Federer, I saw Safin make a
>> ridiculously effortless halfvolley pickup at the net, where the ball
>> kind of bobbed up and landed on the other side of the net, and won him
>> the point. And it all looked extremely easy. These are the kinds of
>> telltale marks or signs that you see in extremely talented tennis
>> players. You know that he has a way with the ball that very few else
>> does. And then I look at his career and the first thought that comes
>> to my mind is: What a ginormous waste! He didn't even give himself the
>> opportunity just to see how good he could become.
>
>There's an old story about the football player George Best that might
>apply in Safin's case...
>
>A hotel worker walks into a room and finds George Best, lying on a bed
>of money, eating caviar and drinking champagne out of a naked Miss
>World's navel. And the hotel worker says: "Mr Best, where did it all
>go wrong?"
>
>Willie
>
Spot-on.


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:52:16
From:
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
Safin is another buffoon from the Fed clown era.


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:26:03
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On 24 Jan., 01:16, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:
> On Jan 23, 2:07=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 24 Jan., 00:15, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
> > > Could Safin have had a more impressive career? Probably. Should he be
> > > condemned as a profligate who threw away a half-dozen or more slams? =
I
> > > don't think so.
>
> > > Joe Ramirez
>
> > Maybe Safin didn't throw away a half-dozen slams. But we will never
> > know. Because he didn't even give himself the chance. That's the
> > disappointing thing about him.
>
> > In the third set of today's match against Federer, I saw Safin make a
> > ridiculously effortless halfvolley pickup at the net, where the ball
> > kind of bobbed up and landed on the other side of the net, and won him
> > the point. And it all looked extremely easy.
>
> The announcers here observed that that particular shot was a mishit
> off the racket throat. :)
>
> Joe Ramirez

Well, it wasn't the perfect shot of course. The ball bobbed up high.
And the commentators in my neck of the woods probably made a big deal
out of it. But still, it was a very good shot, a winning shot
nonetheless, and I thought making it required very good touch. And the
fact that Safin looked so nonchalant throughout the process was what
intrigued me.


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:16:19
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Jan 23, 2:07=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 24 Jan., 00:15, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Could Safin have had a more impressive career? Probably. Should he be
> > condemned as a profligate who threw away a half-dozen or more slams? I
> > don't think so.
>
> > Joe Ramirez
>
> Maybe Safin didn't throw away a half-dozen slams. But we will never
> know. Because he didn't even give himself the chance. That's the
> disappointing thing about him.
>
> In the third set of today's match against Federer, I saw Safin make a
> ridiculously effortless halfvolley pickup at the net, where the ball
> kind of bobbed up and landed on the other side of the net, and won him
> the point. And it all looked extremely easy.

The announcers here observed that that particular shot was a mishit
off the racket throat. :)

Joe Ramirez


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:07:22
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On 24 Jan., 00:15, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com > wrote:

>
> Could Safin have had a more impressive career? Probably. Should he be
> condemned as a profligate who threw away a half-dozen or more slams? I
> don't think so.
>
> Joe Ramirez

Maybe Safin didn't throw away a half-dozen slams. But we will never
know. Because he didn't even give himself the chance. That's the
disappointing thing about him.

In the third set of today's match against Federer, I saw Safin make a
ridiculously effortless halfvolley pickup at the net, where the ball
kind of bobbed up and landed on the other side of the net, and won him
the point. And it all looked extremely easy. These are the kinds of
telltale marks or signs that you see in extremely talented tennis
players. You know that he has a way with the ball that very few else
does. And then I look at his career and the first thought that comes
to my mind is: What a ginormous waste! He didn't even give himself the
opportunity just to see how good he could become.



  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:16:54
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 24 Jan., 00:15, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
>> Could Safin have had a more impressive career? Probably. Should he be
>> condemned as a profligate who threw away a half-dozen or more slams? I
>> don't think so.
>>
>> Joe Ramirez
>
> Maybe Safin didn't throw away a half-dozen slams. But we will never
> know. Because he didn't even give himself the chance. That's the
> disappointing thing about him.
>
> In the third set of today's match against Federer, I saw Safin make a
> ridiculously effortless halfvolley pickup at the net, where the ball
> kind of bobbed up and landed on the other side of the net, and won him
> the point. And it all looked extremely easy. These are the kinds of
> telltale marks or signs that you see in extremely talented tennis
> players. You know that he has a way with the ball that very few else
> does. And then I look at his career and the first thought that comes
> to my mind is: What a ginormous waste! He didn't even give himself the
> opportunity just to see how good he could become.
>


That's because you clearly know fuck all about tennis.



  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 19:47:20
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 24 Jan., 00:15, Joe Ramirez <josephmrami...@netzero.com> wrote:
>
>> Could Safin have had a more impressive career? Probably. Should he be
>> condemned as a profligate who threw away a half-dozen or more slams? I
>> don't think so.
>>
>> Joe Ramirez
>
> Maybe Safin didn't throw away a half-dozen slams. But we will never
> know. Because he didn't even give himself the chance. That's the
> disappointing thing about him.
>
> In the third set of today's match against Federer, I saw Safin make a
> ridiculously effortless halfvolley pickup at the net, where the ball
> kind of bobbed up and landed on the other side of the net, and won him
> the point. And it all looked extremely easy. These are the kinds of
> telltale marks or signs that you see in extremely talented tennis
> players. You know that he has a way with the ball that very few else
> does. And then I look at his career and the first thought that comes
> to my mind is: What a ginormous waste! He didn't even give himself the
> opportunity just to see how good he could become.
>

Safin is not a very cerebral player, to put it mildly. See his response
to Santoro to see what he could be reduced to by such an opponent. Given
that he is not one to bend as the circumstances demand to wrest glory,
the fact that he got his 2 slams beating two of the greatest players of
the Open Era is a great positive.

He is talented, sure. But the bottomline is that his preferred mode of
play is as a baseline basher. The traits that make him such a likable
character get in the way of his tennis.

--
Cheers,

vc


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 10:15:52
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Jan 23, 11:58=A0am, Voice of Reason <sasidha...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 23, 9:42=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 23, 1:03 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:58:46 -0800 (PST), erwin...@mail.com wrote:
> > > >On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career=
out
> > > >> of being a ditch-digger.
>
> > > >Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
> > > >Mecir did.
>
> > > Safin is way way way better than Rios and Mercir put together.
>
> > > Just add up their 7543 scores.
>
> > > Right Whisper ?
>
> > Well, since neither Rios nor Mecir ever won a single slam and Safin
> > has two, I think many would claim he is better than both put together.
>
> LOL The entire point that er...@gmail.com is trying to make is that
> neither Rios nor Mecir have won a slam for the talent they possessed -
> which makes in his opinion makes them a bigger waste than Safin since
> Safin has won two slams.
>
> But, I'm not entirely convinced. =A0Rios and Mecir's capacity - IMO - is
> prob 1-3 slams nothing great - so their result-talent deficit is -3 at
> worst.
>
> Safin's talent was IMO at least Agassi's range so his deficit is close
> to -6 to -7.
>
> So he ended up with fewer slams given his talent level than Mecir or
> Rios compared to their respective talent levels - relatively speaking.

I see your point, but I think you are extrapolating too much. The
longer the chain of events that must occur -- even if they are deemed
probabiliities -- the more tenuous the conclusion. Tennis champions at
the 8+ slam level are very rare, and many factors, such as luck (never
overlook this), individual preferences, and external circumstances
beyond the player's control affect such accomplishment. I don't think
any player can be *expected* to perform at that standard even if it's
conceivable that he could. Mecir/Rios made slam finals and had chances
at others, so it's not going too far out on a limb to suggest they
could or should have won one. Similarly, Safin won two slams, beating
GOAT-level players in the process, so it's within reason to argue that
he owed us a couple more. But insisting that he should have finished
with eight or nine is going too far, IMO. Slams are a finite resource,
and not everyone with the ability to win a bunch of them actually
will.

I don't believe it's legitimate to look at the maximum level of
achievement that might be wrung out of a given set of human assets,
and then declare anything short of that a "waste." Many people
launched computer software companies in the 1970s and 80s, and some of
these people were as smart as Bill Gates, or as hard-working as Bill
Gates, or even both. And some became very successful. I would not say
that any of them wasted their talent simply because they did not amass
a $50 billion personal fortune or establish a near-monopoly in PC
operating systems.

Or take the Obama example. I agree that his being a ditch-digger
probably would be a great waste of talent, but the real question is
whether his career would have been wasted if he had not become
president. Again, those slots are extremely limited. For example, each
year the Harvard Law Review sends out about 50 alumni into the world
at large. Most of these people are as smart as Obama, and a few
probably have a similar blend of intelligence and political skills.
But obviously, they can't all become president of the United States,
even assuming they are interested in trying.

Could Safin have had a more impressive career? Probably. Should he be
condemned as a profligate who threw away a half-dozen or more slams? I
don't think so.

Joe Ramirez


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:11:46
From:
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Jan 23, 8:16=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 18:58, erwin...@mail.com wrote:
>
> > On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career ou=
t
> > > of being a ditch-digger.
>
> > Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
> > Mecir did.
>
> Safin is much bigger waste than those two.

yup


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 23:32:04
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:11:46 -0800 (PST), Arancione@selin.com wrote:

>On Jan 23, 8:16 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 23 Jan., 18:58, erwin...@mail.com wrote:
>>
>> > On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
>> > > of being a ditch-digger.
>>
>> > Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
>> > Mecir did.
>>
>> Safin is much bigger waste than those two.
>
>yup


but still safin is safin and he adds color to the sport and is
respected and feared by the players.


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 08:58:12
From: Voice of Reason
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Jan 23, 9:42=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> On Jan 23, 1:03 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:58:46 -0800 (PST), erwin...@mail.com wrote:
> > >On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career o=
ut
> > >> of being a ditch-digger.
>
> > >Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
> > >Mecir did.
>
> > Safin is way way way better than Rios and Mercir put together.
>
> > Just add up their 7543 scores.
>
> > Right Whisper ?
>
> Well, since neither Rios nor Mecir ever won a single slam and Safin
> has two, I think many would claim he is better than both put together.

LOL The entire point that erwin@gmail.com is trying to make is that
neither Rios nor Mecir have won a slam for the talent they possessed -
which makes in his opinion makes them a bigger waste than Safin since
Safin has won two slams.

But, I'm not entirely convinced. Rios and Mecir's capacity - IMO - is
prob 1-3 slams nothing great - so their result-talent deficit is -3 at
worst.

Safin's talent was IMO at least Agassi's range so his deficit is close
to -6 to -7.

So he ended up with fewer slams given his talent level than Mecir or
Rios compared to their respective talent levels - relatively speaking.


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 22:45:50
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
Voice of Reason wrote:
> On Jan 23, 9:42 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Jan 23, 1:03 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:58:46 -0800 (PST), erwin...@mail.com wrote:
>>>> On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
>>>>> of being a ditch-digger.
>>>> Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
>>>> Mecir did.
>>> Safin is way way way better than Rios and Mercir put together.
>>> Just add up their 7543 scores.
>>> Right Whisper ?
>> Well, since neither Rios nor Mecir ever won a single slam and Safin
>> has two, I think many would claim he is better than both put together.
>
> LOL The entire point that erwin@gmail.com is trying to make is that
> neither Rios nor Mecir have won a slam for the talent they possessed -
> which makes in his opinion makes them a bigger waste than Safin since
> Safin has won two slams.
>
> But, I'm not entirely convinced. Rios and Mecir's capacity - IMO - is
> prob 1-3 slams nothing great - so their result-talent deficit is -3 at
> worst.
>
> Safin's talent was IMO at least Agassi's range


You have to be fucking kidding? His top range was 3.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 22:25:20
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history

"Voice of Reason" <sasidharpv@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:9b6b5baa-6946-40aa-9110-2921be19672c@m4g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 23, 9:42 am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> On Jan 23, 1:03 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:58:46 -0800 (PST), erwin...@mail.com wrote:
> > >On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career
> > >> out
> > >> of being a ditch-digger.
>
> > >Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
> > >Mecir did.
>
> > Safin is way way way better than Rios and Mercir put together.
>
> > Just add up their 7543 scores.
>
> > Right Whisper ?
>
> Well, since neither Rios nor Mecir ever won a single slam and Safin
> has two, I think many would claim he is better than both put together.

LOL The entire point that erwin@gmail.com is trying to make is that
neither Rios nor Mecir have won a slam for the talent they possessed -
which makes in his opinion makes them a bigger waste than Safin since
Safin has won two slams.

But, I'm not entirely convinced. Rios and Mecir's capacity - IMO - is
prob 1-3 slams nothing great - so their result-talent deficit is -3 at
worst.

Safin's talent was IMO at least Agassi's range so his deficit is close
to -6 to -7.

So he ended up with fewer slams given his talent level than Mecir or
Rios compared to their respective talent levels - relatively speaking.

***

No he didn't.
They're at 0%, he's at cca 25% using your predicted potential for them.




 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 06:42:59
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Jan 23, 1:03 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com >
wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:58:46 -0800 (PST), erwin...@mail.com wrote:
> >On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
> >> of being a ditch-digger.
>
> >Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
> >Mecir did.
>
> Safin is way way way better than Rios and Mercir put together.
>
> Just add up their 7543 scores.
>
> Right Whisper ?

Well, since neither Rios nor Mecir ever won a single slam and Safin
has two, I think many would claim he is better than both put together.


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 05:16:54
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On 23 Jan., 18:58, erwin...@mail.com wrote:
> On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
> > of being a ditch-digger.
>
> Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
> Mecir did.

Safin is much bigger waste than those two.


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 22:25:14
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 18:58, erwin...@mail.com wrote:
>> On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
>>> of being a ditch-digger.
>> Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
>> Mecir did.
>
> Safin is much bigger waste than those two.


Safin > Rios, but Mecir was far more talented than both those idiotas.



   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 11:34:21
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:25:14 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>arnab.z@gmail wrote:
>> On 23 Jan., 18:58, erwin...@mail.com wrote:
>>> On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
>>>> of being a ditch-digger.
>>> Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
>>> Mecir did.
>>
>> Safin is much bigger waste than those two.
>
>
>Safin > Rios, but Mecir was far more talented than both those idiotas.


No he was not. Evidence 7543.


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 04:58:46
From:
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
> of being a ditch-digger.

Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
Mecir did.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 13:03:16
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:58:46 -0800 (PST), erwindol@mail.com wrote:

>On 23 jan, 13:18, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
>> of being a ditch-digger.
>
>Not anywhere close. He has 2 grand slam titles. Look what Rios or
>Mecir did.


Safin is way way way better than Rios and Mercir put together.

Just add up their 7543 scores.

Right Whisper ?


   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 11:40:03
From: John P
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
Dave wrote:

"Safin is way way better than Rios and Mercir put together."

Safin said (after BEATING Rios at the Canadian Open in a close match a
few years ago):

"He's too talented."

Safin and Rios were both extremely talented, imo. A true pleasure to
watch when in form. Two of my favorite players ever, right up there
with fellow talents Mac and Fed.



 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 04:46:20
From:
Subject: Re: Safin is the biggest waste of talent in Tennis history
On Jan 23, 4:18=A0pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Ridiculous wastage. It's like watching Barak Obama making a career out
> of being a ditch-digger.

Like a ditch digger that became president twice.