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Date: 20 Jan 2009 18:36:24
From: John Doe
Subject: Seed order always follows rankings?

Are players always seeded according to their world rankings (except of
course for players who don't participate)? In other words. Nadal will
always be seeded number one in the Australian Open if he is ranked
number one in the world, even though another player is expected to win
the tournament?

Any exceptions?

Thanks.


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Date: 20 Jan 2009 21:25:05
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Seed order always follows rankings?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:36:24 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid >
wrote:

>
>Are players always seeded according to their world rankings (except of
>course for players who don't participate)? In other words. Nadal will
>always be seeded number one in the Australian Open if he is ranked
>number one in the world, even though another player is expected to win
>the tournament?
>
>Any exceptions?
>
>Thanks.

The exception is Wimbledon which has its own formula.



  
Date: 20 Jan 2009 11:56:20
From: Hops
Subject: Re: Seed order always follows rankings?
On Jan 20, 11:25=A0am, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:36:24 GMT, John Doe <j...@usenetlove.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Are players always seeded according to their world rankings (except of
> >course for players who don't participate)? In other words. Nadal will
> >always be seeded number one in the Australian Open if he is ranked
> >number one in the world, even though another player is expected to win
> >the tournament?
>
> >Any exceptions?
>
> >Thanks.
>
> The exception is Wimbledon which has its own formula.

Their formula uses the existing rankings as a baseline and adjusts per
grasscourt results going back two years. There should be surface-
adjusted seedings for all tournaments.



   
Date: 20 Jan 2009 21:10:32
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Seed order always follows rankings?

"Hops" <kev8128@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:0d1aaf3d-7502-4213-912e-b7f0e83bf831@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 20, 11:25 am, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:36:24 GMT, John Doe <j...@usenetlove.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Are players always seeded according to their world rankings (except of
> >course for players who don't participate)? In other words. Nadal will
> >always be seeded number one in the Australian Open if he is ranked
> >number one in the world, even though another player is expected to win
> >the tournament?
>
> >Any exceptions?
>
> >Thanks.
>
> The exception is Wimbledon which has its own formula.

Their formula uses the existing rankings as a baseline and adjusts per
grasscourt results going back two years. There should be surface-
adjusted seedings for all tournaments.


***
ATP points from the last 52 weeks including double grasscourt points and 50%
of the grasscourt points from the weeks 104-53 prior the event?
That's the formula?

I'd like to calculate how much ahead of Nadal Federer has to be if he
regains #1 position in order to be #1 seed.


Using race pts, calculating only extra points, it's 200+70 for Nadal at Wim,
and 35+something for Queens.
Federer 140+100 and 35+0 for Halle.

Nadal cca 315 means 3150pts.
Federer 175, cca 1750.

Nadal could be cca 1400 pts behind Federer and still be #1 seed at Wimbledon
this year?





 
Date: 21 Jan 2009 05:45:42
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Seed order always follows rankings?
John Doe wrote:
> Are players always seeded according to their world rankings (except of
> course for players who don't participate)?

Except at Wimbledon.