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Date: 20 Jan 2009 21:18:10
From:
Subject: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
-Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
-3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
-Letting Korolev outhit himself...
-etc. etc.




 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 22:05:57
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
On Jan 21, 1:01=A0am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jan 21, 12:52=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
> > produce an error.
>
> =A0Right, and you do this when you're playing against a player who has
> stronger shots than you. Otherwise you can free-wheel more and go for
> more winners.
>
> The stats of the match were telling. Korolev hit more winners than
> Federer but he also hit way way more errors than Fed.
> That's just smart tennis from Fed.

Safin is next, I hope he self-destruct :)


 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 22:01:30
From:
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
On Jan 21, 12:52=A0am, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:

> It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
> produce an error.


Right, and you do this when you're playing against a player who has
stronger shots than you. Otherwise you can free-wheel more and go for
more winners.

The stats of the match were telling. Korolev hit more winners than
Federer but he also hit way way more errors than Fed.
That's just smart tennis from Fed.



 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 21:56:06
From:
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
On Jan 21, 12:50=A0am, Patrick Kehoe <pke...@telus.net > wrote:

> > This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
> > next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
> > from then on.
>
> ++ And Fed defended well at times... went wide to both sides well...
> it was death by a thousand cuts out there... cause could he ever hit
> the ball hard, had Fed scrambling at times...

Right, but Fed made it just a little bit more difficult on himself
than he needed.
He landed a bunch of balls short and didn't think through all his
shots, so he allowed Korolev to punish the ball more often than he
should have.

I'm not sure if Fed read the book on Korolev before the match, or
figured him out on the fly.


 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 21:52:27
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
On Jan 21, 12:29=A0am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jan 21, 12:18=A0am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
> > -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
> > -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
> > -etc. etc.
>
> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
> from then on.

It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
produce an error.


  
Date: 21 Jan 2009 20:15:59
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
wkhedr wrote:
> On Jan 21, 12:29 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Jan 21, 12:18 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
>>> -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
>>> -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
>>> -etc. etc.
>> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
>> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
>> from then on.
>
> It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
> produce an error.


This is the exact style of tennis that works beautifully against clowns.
Will have no effect on Rafa.



   
Date: 21 Jan 2009 20:56:31
From: john
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer

"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:4976e7d2$0$9482$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> wkhedr wrote:
>> On Jan 21, 12:29 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Jan 21, 12:18 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
>>>> -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
>>>> -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
>>>> -etc. etc.
>>> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
>>> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
>>> from then on.
>>
>> It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
>> produce an error.
>
>
> This is the exact style of tennis that works beautifully against clowns.
> Will have no effect on Rafa.

The problem is Rafa's game has very little effect on hard court and
certainly
was not good enough to get him into any gs final so far. Rafa will get blow
away by someone in this AO again before the final.
>




    
Date: 21 Jan 2009 10:57:10
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:56:31 +1100, "john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>
>"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>news:4976e7d2$0$9482$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> wkhedr wrote:
>>> On Jan 21, 12:29 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> On Jan 21, 12:18 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
>>>>> -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
>>>>> -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
>>>>> -etc. etc.
>>>> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
>>>> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
>>>> from then on.
>>>
>>> It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
>>> produce an error.
>>
>>
>> This is the exact style of tennis that works beautifully against clowns.
>> Will have no effect on Rafa.
>
>The problem is Rafa's game has very little effect on hard court and
>certainly
>was not good enough to get him into any gs final so far. Rafa will get blow
>away by someone in this AO again before the final.
>>
>


correct. all it takes is a berdych, youzhny, blake, gonzo type to wipe
his behind right out of melbourne. not even a djock, murray or
Federer.


    
Date: 21 Jan 2009 21:20:24
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
john wrote:
> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4976e7d2$0$9482$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> wkhedr wrote:
>>> On Jan 21, 12:29 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> On Jan 21, 12:18 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
>>>>> -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
>>>>> -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
>>>>> -etc. etc.
>>>> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
>>>> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
>>>> from then on.
>>> It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
>>> produce an error.
>>
>> This is the exact style of tennis that works beautifully against clowns.
>> Will have no effect on Rafa.
>
> The problem is Rafa's game has very little effect on hard court and
> certainly
> was not good enough to get him into any gs final so far. Rafa will get blow
> away by someone in this AO again before the final.
>
>


Funny how he made AO semis last yr without dropping a set.

He's getting better at HC slams every yr so far.



     
Date: 21 Jan 2009 10:59:30
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:20:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>john wrote:
>> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4976e7d2$0$9482$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> wkhedr wrote:
>>>> On Jan 21, 12:29 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 21, 12:18 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
>>>>>> -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
>>>>>> -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
>>>>>> -etc. etc.
>>>>> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
>>>>> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
>>>>> from then on.
>>>> It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
>>>> produce an error.
>>>
>>> This is the exact style of tennis that works beautifully against clowns.
>>> Will have no effect on Rafa.
>>
>> The problem is Rafa's game has very little effect on hard court and
>> certainly
>> was not good enough to get him into any gs final so far. Rafa will get blow
>> away by someone in this AO again before the final.
>>
>>
>
>
>Funny how he made AO semis last yr without dropping a set.
>
>He's getting better at HC slams every yr so far.


He's still not tier 1 though. far from it. berdych will slaughter him
as would youzhny, blake, gonzo, monfils or most tier2 guys on a hc.

The fact he made one AO semi is meaningless. Hey look Sampras also
made one FO semi.

Once can be an accident remember.


      
Date: 21 Jan 2009 22:06:51
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:20:24 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> john wrote:
>>> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:4976e7d2$0$9482$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>> wkhedr wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 21, 12:29 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 21, 12:18 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
>>>>>>> -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
>>>>>>> -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
>>>>>>> -etc. etc.
>>>>>> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
>>>>>> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
>>>>>> from then on.
>>>>> It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
>>>>> produce an error.
>>>> This is the exact style of tennis that works beautifully against clowns.
>>>> Will have no effect on Rafa.
>>> The problem is Rafa's game has very little effect on hard court and
>>> certainly
>>> was not good enough to get him into any gs final so far. Rafa will get blow
>>> away by someone in this AO again before the final.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Funny how he made AO semis last yr without dropping a set.
>>
>> He's getting better at HC slams every yr so far.
>
>
> He's still not tier 1 though. far from it. berdych will slaughter him
> as would youzhny, blake, gonzo, monfils or most tier2 guys on a hc.


No, that's what you said they'd do to him at Wimbledon & he mowed then
down remember?

>
> The fact he made one AO semi is meaningless. Hey look Sampras also
> made one FO semi.
>
> Once can be an accident remember.



Don't cry when he crushes Roger in the final.


     
Date: 21 Jan 2009 21:26:00
From: john
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer

"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:4976f6ea$0$9537$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> john wrote:
>> "Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4976e7d2$0$9482$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> wkhedr wrote:
>>>> On Jan 21, 12:29 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 21, 12:18 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
>>>>>> -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
>>>>>> -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
>>>>>> -etc. etc.
>>>>> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
>>>>> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
>>>>> from then on.
>>>> It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
>>>> produce an error.
>>>
>>> This is the exact style of tennis that works beautifully against clowns.
>>> Will have no effect on Rafa.
>>
>> The problem is Rafa's game has very little effect on hard court and
>> certainly
>> was not good enough to get him into any gs final so far. Rafa will get
>> blow
>> away by someone in this AO again before the final.
>>
>>
>
>
> Funny how he made AO semis last yr without dropping a set.
>
> He's getting better at HC slams every yr so far.

Funny, he still got blow away in 3 sets even when he is getting better....
>




   
Date: 21 Jan 2009 09:40:31
From: Stapler
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:4976e7d2$0$9482$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> wkhedr wrote:
>> On Jan 21, 12:29 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Jan 21, 12:18 am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
>>>> -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
>>>> -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
>>>> -etc. etc.
>>> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
>>> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
>>> from then on.
>>
>> It's all about feeding his opponent the right ball that causes him to
>> produce an error.
>
>
> This is the exact style of tennis that works beautifully against clowns.
> Will have no effect on Rafa.
>


What makes you think he will play like this against Rafa? Remember Shanghai
2007? He hit Rafa off the court with bombs....



 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 21:50:16
From: Patrick Kehoe
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
On Jan 20, 9:29=A0pm, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jan 21, 12:18=A0am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
> > -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
> > -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
> > -etc. etc.
>
> This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
> next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
> from then on.

++ And Fed defended well at times... went wide to both sides well...
it was death by a thousand cuts out there... cause could he ever hit
the ball hard, had Fed scrambling at times...

P



 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 21:29:10
From:
Subject: Re: Smart cat'n mouse tennis from Federer
On Jan 21, 12:18=A0am, google3luo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> -Backhand slicing to bring Korolev in to net...
> -3/4 first serves to bring Korolev wide, then the finishing shot...
> -Letting Korolev outhit himself...
> -etc. etc.

This is the type of cerebral tennis that Fed will have to play for the
next while until he ties Sampras' slams. He may even keep doing it
from then on.