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Date: 10 Jan 2009 17:39:51
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Somdev Devvarman

There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
you think? :-)




 
Date: 11 Jan 2009 19:25:26
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
Sakari Lund wrote:
> There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
> Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
> Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
> Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
> you think? :-)


You can drop the 'what'.



 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 18:10:34
From: John P
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
BTW, Sakari, I saw an old Finnish movie today - Cross of Love (1946). I
don't think it was particularly Finnish, though. The Way You Wanted Me
(1944) was also playing, but Cross of Love was not very good so I
passed. probably should have gone to see Slumdog Millionaire, instead.



  
Date: 11 Jan 2009 01:51:44
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:10:34 -0500, JTPDC@webtv.net (John P) wrote:

>BTW, Sakari, I saw an old Finnish movie today - Cross of Love (1946). I
>don't think it was particularly Finnish, though. The Way You Wanted Me
>(1944) was also playing, but Cross of Love was not very good so I
>passed. probably should have gone to see Slumdog Millionaire, instead.

Huh. Finnish movies from that era are mostly unintenionally comical.
Funni if they have English names, and someone is actually watching
them abroad.


   
Date: 10 Jan 2009 19:00:01
From: John P
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
Sakari,

well, the National Gallery of Art is showing these old Finnish moves for
some reason. Cross of Love wasn't a comedy, intentionally or otherwise.
It was a drama. I was disappointed it wasn't good because normally the
modern Finnish films we get here are pretty good.



    
Date: 11 Jan 2009 04:52:02
From:
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On Jan 11, 12:42=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:11:12 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
>
>
>
> <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 11 Jan., 09:01, "gregorawe" <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "TT" <g...@Olympics.org> wrote in message
>
> >>news:5Jcal.117308$_03.45278@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>
> >> > gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >> On Jan 11, 2:05 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >>> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>>news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.=
com...
>
> >> >>>> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-t=
opic
> >> >>>> stuff about Finnish movies?
> >> >>> =A0Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....
>
> >> >> You'll have to explain - is Somdev Devvarman a Finnish film star?
>
> >> > You can't be this thick?
>
> >> =A0Yes, I'm actually a complete fuckwit since I don't get your oh-so-f=
unny
> >> in-joke
>
> >You two are developing a curious symbiotic relationship.
>
> It is just silly.

I don't see why I can't post a response to a question asked in another
thread without being accused of going off-topic and being biased. As
if no thread in this group ever deviated from the exact point in the
original post.

My first post in this thread was merely pointing that out ...



     
Date: 11 Jan 2009 14:57:12
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:52:02 -0800 (PST), gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Jan 11, 12:42 pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:11:12 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
>>
>>
>>
>> <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On 11 Jan., 09:01, "gregorawe" <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "TT" <g...@Olympics.org> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:5Jcal.117308$_03.45278@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>
>> >> > gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> On Jan 11, 2:05 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>>news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >>>> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
>> >> >>>> stuff about Finnish movies?
>> >> >>>  Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....
>>
>> >> >> You'll have to explain - is Somdev Devvarman a Finnish film star?
>>
>> >> > You can't be this thick?
>>
>> >>  Yes, I'm actually a complete fuckwit since I don't get your oh-so-funny
>> >> in-joke
>>
>> >You two are developing a curious symbiotic relationship.
>>
>> It is just silly.
>
>I don't see why I can't post a response to a question asked in another
>thread without being accused of going off-topic and being biased. As
>if no thread in this group ever deviated from the exact point in the
>original post.
>
>My first post in this thread was merely pointing that out ...

I know, I know. Just that you two get to similar "yes/no" arguments in
many, many threads often over very small things.





      
Date: 11 Jan 2009 11:12:36
From: John P
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
greg,

I'm sorry, I am the one who went OT in this thread (albeit after first
posting an on-point response to Sakari's initial question).

that said, however, I submit sometimes the OT threads turn out more
interesting than the original threads. indeed, as TT suggested, there
is just so much you can do with Somdev Devvarman...;-)



    
Date: 11 Jan 2009 04:22:53
From:
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On Jan 11, 3:44=A0am, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> gregorawe wrote:
> > "TT" <g...@Olympics.org> wrote in message
> >news:5Jcal.117308$_03.45278@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
> >> gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Jan 11, 2:05 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>>news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.co=
m...
>
> >>>>> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-top=
ic
> >>>>> stuff about Finnish movies?
> >>>> =A0Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....
>
> >>> You'll have to explain - is Somdev Devvarman a Finnish film star?
>
> >> You can't be this thick?
>
> > Yes, I'm actually a complete fuckwit since I don't get your oh-so-funny
> > in-joke
>
> Not complete but I have to admit I'm somewhat disappointed. :)
>
> The joke is of course on Somdev(and partly on Finnish movies): Even old
> Finnish movies are more interesting subject than Somdev Devvarman...And
> people probably know more about those too! :)

I was looking for something more subtle - should have known better




    
Date: 10 Jan 2009 20:11:12
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On 11 Jan., 09:01, "gregorawe" <gregor...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> "TT" <g...@Olympics.org> wrote in message
>
> news:5Jcal.117308$_03.45278@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>
>
>
> > gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Jan 11, 2:05 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com=
...
>
> >>>> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topi=
c
> >>>> stuff about Finnish movies?
> >>> =A0Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....
>
> >> You'll have to explain - is Somdev Devvarman a Finnish film star?
>
> > You can't be this thick?
>
> =A0Yes, I'm actually a complete fuckwit since I don't get your oh-so-funn=
y
> in-joke

You two are developing a curious symbiotic relationship.


     
Date: 11 Jan 2009 14:42:46
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:11:12 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
<arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote:

>On 11 Jan., 09:01, "gregorawe" <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "TT" <g...@Olympics.org> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5Jcal.117308$_03.45278@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>>
>>
>>
>> > gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Jan 11, 2:05 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>>news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >>>> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
>> >>>> stuff about Finnish movies?
>> >>>  Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....
>>
>> >> You'll have to explain - is Somdev Devvarman a Finnish film star?
>>
>> > You can't be this thick?
>>
>>  Yes, I'm actually a complete fuckwit since I don't get your oh-so-funny
>> in-joke
>
>You two are developing a curious symbiotic relationship.

It is just silly.



    
Date: 10 Jan 2009 18:16:44
From:
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On Jan 11, 2:05=A0am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com > wrote:
> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
> > stuff about Finnish movies?
>
> =A0Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....

You'll have to explain - is Somdev Devvarman a Finnish film star?



     
Date: 11 Jan 2009 04:21:53
From: TT
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2:05 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
>>> stuff about Finnish movies?
>> Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....
>
> You'll have to explain - is Somdev Devvarman a Finnish film star?
>

You can't be this thick?

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


      
Date: 11 Jan 2009 03:01:44
From: gregorawe
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
"TT" <gold@Olympics.org > wrote in message
news:5Jcal.117308$_03.45278@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
> gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Jan 11, 2:05 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
>>>> stuff about Finnish movies?
>>> Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....
>>
>> You'll have to explain - is Somdev Devvarman a Finnish film star?
>>
>
> You can't be this thick?

Yes, I'm actually a complete fuckwit since I don't get your oh-so-funny
in-joke



       
Date: 11 Jan 2009 05:44:49
From: TT
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
gregorawe wrote:
> "TT" <gold@Olympics.org> wrote in message
> news:5Jcal.117308$_03.45278@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi...
>> gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jan 11, 2:05 am, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> <gregor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
>>>>> stuff about Finnish movies?
>>>> Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....
>>>
>>> You'll have to explain - is Somdev Devvarman a Finnish film star?
>>>
>>
>> You can't be this thick?
>
> Yes, I'm actually a complete fuckwit since I don't get your oh-so-funny
> in-joke

Not complete but I have to admit I'm somewhat disappointed. :)

The joke is of course on Somdev(and partly on Finnish movies): Even old
Finnish movies are more interesting subject than Somdev Devvarman...And
people probably know more about those too! :)


--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


    
Date: 10 Jan 2009 17:41:57
From:
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
>
> I tried to search at imdb those movies you mentioned but couldn't find
> them. I used to watch old Finnish movies a lot when younger, maybe
> because they showed them a lot back then. Even nowadays I sometimes
> watch those although I must say that I'm somewhat fedup with the genre... :)

This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
stuff about Finnish movies?





     
Date: 11 Jan 2009 03:52:33
From: TT
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
gregorawe@hotmail.com wrote:
>> I tried to search at imdb those movies you mentioned but couldn't find
>> them. I used to watch old Finnish movies a lot when younger, maybe
>> because they showed them a lot back then. Even nowadays I sometimes
>> watch those although I must say that I'm somewhat fedup with the genre... :)
>
> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
> stuff about Finnish movies?
>

Just to annoy you, obviously.


--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


     
Date: 10 Jan 2009 21:05:13
From: ew
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman

<gregorawe@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...

>
> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
> stuff about Finnish movies?

Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....



      
Date: 11 Jan 2009 04:12:25
From: TT
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
ew wrote:
>
> <gregorawe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:50c68c45-3e74-485b-a2cb-04ecc0bc3620@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> This thread is about Somdev Devvarman - why are you posting off-topic
>> stuff about Finnish movies?
>
> Because it's about Somdev Devvarman....

lol. Good response.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


    
Date: 11 Jan 2009 03:40:06
From: TT
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
John P wrote:
> Sakari,
>
> well, the National Gallery of Art is showing these old Finnish moves for
> some reason. Cross of Love wasn't a comedy, intentionally or otherwise.
> It was a drama. I was disappointed it wasn't good because normally the
> modern Finnish films we get here are pretty good.
>

Finnish old drama movies are often OVERLY DRAMATIC but somehow they can
be great in their own way.

Ansa Ikonen, Tauno Palo were the biggest names for a long time for those
kind of movies.

I tried to search at imdb those movies you mentioned but couldn't find
them. I used to watch old Finnish movies a lot when younger, maybe
because they showed them a lot back then. Even nowadays I sometimes
watch those although I must say that I'm somewhat fedup with the genre... :)


--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 15:28:23
From: ew
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
Isner vs Devvarman - some first set college play. I think Devvarman won the
match.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4A87MAZW


"Sakari Lund" <sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote in message
news:e4ghm4t9dj9dr1ammra39rq79jvv9mn5g5@4ax.com...
>
> There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
> Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
> Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
> Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
> you think? :-)



  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 20:40:26
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On 11 Jan., 04:59, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:


I have found an analysis here (doesn't read good for Somdev):
http://thetennisguysays.googlepages.com/howwillsomdevdevarrmando%3F

How will Somdev Devvarman do in the Pro=92s?

An old Yankees scout used to say that there=92s a golden rule that all
baseball people live by when evaluating young ballplayers.

=93It ain=92t what he=92s done. It=92s what he=92s gonna do.=94

In tennis, companies like Reebok and Nike live by the same rule when
deciding which young players to sign to big contracts.

If these companies are smart, they=92ll stay away from Somdev Devvarman,
the 2008 NCAA singles champion from the University of Virginia.

The Indian-born Devvarman has had perhaps the greatest college tennis
career in American history. He reached the NCAA singles championship
three times, won two singles titles, and went undefeated his entire
senior season. But he doesn=92t have the game for the pro tour.

There are two ways to win on the ATP tour. Play with great power or
play with great athleticism. Somdev plays with neither.

Devvarman is 5=9210=94 and has dominated the college ranks with a spinny,
accurate forehand, solid court coverage and great mental toughness.
The problem is that by ATP standards, his strengths are not really
strengths.

His forehand will not intimidate any professional player. For a little
guy his movement isn=92t great. And his mental toughness? Right now it
is phenomenal, but it is easy to play with confidence when you are
winning every match in front of a big home crowd (Virgina was the
college tennis attendance leader this year). It is hard to foresee
Devvarman maintaining that same level of focus and confidence when he
is not surrounded by his teammates and fans, and is instead slumming
it at challenger tournaments all over the third world.

But none of these problems will prove to be his fatal flaw.
Devvarman=92s real killer will be his two-handed backhand. It is the
worst backhand I have ever seen for a pro tennis player (at an ATP
tournament in Washington D.C. last summer, I saw Devvarman shank at
least 40% of his two-handers during his blowout loss to Paul
Goldstein).

How bad is Devvarman=92s backhand? Think Andy Roddick when he first came
on the scene. You combine Roddick=92s backhand with Devvarman=92s serve
and you know what you get? A short career.

Now, you might ask, how could Devvarman be this bad? He has dominated
like no other college player, and in recent years college guys have
come through and done pretty well on the tour. Benjamin Becker knocked
Agassi out of his last US Open, and John Isner, who Devvarman beat in
the NCAA championship last year, almost beat Federer at Flushing
Meadows.

The difference between Devvarman and those two is that Isner and
Becker both have huge weapons. The only time either of them doesn=92t
break 130 on the gun is on second serves. It is a lot easier to stay
mentally fresh when you hold serve 90% of the time.

Devvarman on the other hand has no such go-to shot. He reminds me a
lot of Benedict Dorsch (pictured left), the Baylor player who won the
2005 NCAA title. Like Devvarman, Dorsch had absolutely no backhand,
and in college he won mostly on smarts and toughness. But on the ATP
tour Dorsch has struggled, never breaking into the top 100 in three
years of action.

By contrast, the guy who played number two on that Baylor team,
Benjamin Becker, has been inside the top 40 in the world.

Like they say, it ain=92t what you=92ve done, it=92s what you=92re gonna do=
.
In college, Somdev has done a lot. But in the pro=92s he=92ll spend his
career ranked in the 90 to 140 range. Nike and Adidas won=92t be
impressed.


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 14:59:25
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On 11 Jan., 04:06, Mad Max <madmax171_MA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> arnab.z@gmail prolije vodu po tipkovnici 10-sij-2009 22:35 koja u soku
> napise:
>
> > On 11 Jan., 03:23, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 11 Jan., 02:48, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On 11 Jan., 02:28, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Isner vs Devvarman - some first set college play. =A0I think Devvarm=
an won the
> >>>> match.
>
> >>>>http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3D4A87MAZW
>
> >>>> "Sakari Lund" <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>>news:e4ghm4t9dj9dr1ammra39rq79jvv9mn5g5@4ax.com...
>
> >>>>> There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize fro=
m
> >>>>> Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
> >>>>> Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him=
.
> >>>>> Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
> >>>>> you think? =A0:-)
>
> >>> damn 400+MB! that's too much.
>
> >> Alright I am downloading it. So far, it looks like his fundamentals
> >> are great. But he has a weak second serve. Won't go too much up the
> >> rankings with that second serve. Also he will have to run a lot with
> >> those smallish steps. He is not as small as the Rochus brothers, but
> >> he will have to rely on accuracy, quickness and agility.
>
> > The double-handed backhand also looks more like a slightly loopy rally
> > shot than a deal-sealer.
>
> Cilic will beat him in the finals, I don't see him loosing to Somdev.

Yeah, he needs to develop many more shots to become a real force in
tennis. Since he is only 5 feet 10, on the backhand he needs to go for
the Sebastien Grosjean-like on-the-jump drives to really press the
issue.


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 13:35:42
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On 11 Jan., 03:23, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 11 Jan., 02:48, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 11 Jan., 02:28, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Isner vs Devvarman - some first set college play. =A0I think Devvarma=
n won the
> > > match.
>
> > >http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3D4A87MAZW
>
> > > "Sakari Lund" <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:e4ghm4t9dj9dr1ammra39rq79jvv9mn5g5@4ax.com...
>
> > > > There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize fro=
m
> > > > Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
> > > > Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him=
.
> > > > Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
> > > > you think? =A0:-)
>
> > damn 400+MB! that's too much.
>
> Alright I am downloading it. So far, it looks like his fundamentals
> are great. But he has a weak second serve. Won't go too much up the
> rankings with that second serve. Also he will have to run a lot with
> those smallish steps. He is not as small as the Rochus brothers, but
> he will have to rely on accuracy, quickness and agility.

The double-handed backhand also looks more like a slightly loopy rally
shot than a deal-sealer.


   
Date: 10 Jan 2009 23:06:47
From: Mad Max
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
arnab.z@gmail prolije vodu po tipkovnici 10-sij-2009 22:35 koja u soku
napise:
> On 11 Jan., 03:23, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11 Jan., 02:48, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 11 Jan., 02:28, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Isner vs Devvarman - some first set college play. I think Devvarman won the
>>>> match.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4A87MAZW
>>>>
>>>> "Sakari Lund" <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:e4ghm4t9dj9dr1ammra39rq79jvv9mn5g5@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
>>>>> Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
>>>>> Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
>>>>> Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
>>>>> you think? :-)
>>>>>
>>> damn 400+MB! that's too much.
>>>
>> Alright I am downloading it. So far, it looks like his fundamentals
>> are great. But he has a weak second serve. Won't go too much up the
>> rankings with that second serve. Also he will have to run a lot with
>> those smallish steps. He is not as small as the Rochus brothers, but
>> he will have to rely on accuracy, quickness and agility.
>>
>
> The double-handed backhand also looks more like a slightly loopy rally
> shot than a deal-sealer.
>
Cilic will beat him in the finals, I don't see him loosing to Somdev.


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 13:23:56
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On 11 Jan., 02:48, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 11 Jan., 02:28, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Isner vs Devvarman - some first set college play. =A0I think Devvarman =
won the
> > match.
>
> >http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3D4A87MAZW
>
> > "Sakari Lund" <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e4ghm4t9dj9dr1ammra39rq79jvv9mn5g5@4ax.com...
>
> > > There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
> > > Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
> > > Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
> > > Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
> > > you think? =A0:-)
>
> damn 400+MB! that's too much.

Alright I am downloading it. So far, it looks like his fundamentals
are great. But he has a weak second serve. Won't go too much up the
rankings with that second serve. Also he will have to run a lot with
those smallish steps. He is not as small as the Rochus brothers, but
he will have to rely on accuracy, quickness and agility.


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 12:48:57
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On 11 Jan., 02:28, "ew" <yik7...@aol.com > wrote:
> Isner vs Devvarman - some first set college play. =A0I think Devvarman wo=
n the
> match.
>
> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3D4A87MAZW
>
> "Sakari Lund" <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e4ghm4t9dj9dr1ammra39rq79jvv9mn5g5@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
> > Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
> > Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
> > Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
> > you think? =A0:-)

damn 400+MB! that's too much.


 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 12:38:22
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:39:51 +0200, Sakari Lund <sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote:

>
>There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
>Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
>Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
>Has anyone here?

He's the guy who beat John Isner in the NCAA final. He made three straight NCAA
singles finals from the University of Virginia, winning in 2007 and 2008, and
played doubles with one of our DC-area locals, Treat Huey.

He played here in Washington at last year's Legg Mason, making the quarters.
Beat Taylor Dent first round, then Robert Kendrick, before losing to Kunitsyn.

According to his bio on Wikipedia, he's got wins over Querrey, Malisse, Moya,
and Karlovic.

Smallish guy (5'11"), very nice mover, excellent competitor, no particular
stroke weapon.

-- Larry


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 12:24:48
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On 11 Jan., 02:13, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:38:22 -0500, pltrgyst
>
> <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
> >On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:39:51 +0200, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
> >>There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
> >>Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
> >>Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
> >>Has anyone here?
>
> >He's the guy who beat John Isner in the NCAA final. He made three straight NCAA
> >singles finals from the University of Virginia, winning in 2007 and 2008, and
> >played doubles with one of our DC-area locals, Treat Huey.
>
> That seems to be the case usually with unknown players. They have
> played US college tennis, so nobody outside US doesn't know anything
> about that.
>
> >He played here in Washington at last year's Legg Mason, making the quarters.
> >Beat Taylor Dent first round, then Robert Kendrick, before losing to Kunitsyn.
>
> Should have heard about him then. But was that at the same time with
> Olympics? No time to follow regular tournaments then.
>
> >According to his bio on Wikipedia, he's got wins over Querrey, Malisse, Moya,
> >and Karlovic.
>
> Really should have heard about him then.

Don't be hard on yourself. Kid was practically born next door to me. I
didn't know about him either.


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 12:26:44
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On 11 Jan., 02:24, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 11 Jan., 02:13, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:38:22 -0500, pltrgyst
>
> > <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
> > >On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:39:51 +0200, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
>
> > >>There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
> > >>Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
> > >>Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
> > >>Has anyone here?
>
> > >He's the guy who beat John Isner in the NCAA final. He made three straight NCAA
> > >singles finals from the University of Virginia, winning in 2007 and 2008, and
> > >played doubles with one of our DC-area locals, Treat Huey.
>
> > That seems to be the case usually with unknown players. They have
> > played US college tennis, so nobody outside US doesn't know anything
> > about that.
>
> > >He played here in Washington at last year's Legg Mason, making the quarters.
> > >Beat Taylor Dent first round, then Robert Kendrick, before losing to Kunitsyn.
>
> > Should have heard about him then. But was that at the same time with
> > Olympics? No time to follow regular tournaments then.
>
> > >According to his bio on Wikipedia, he's got wins over Querrey, Malisse, Moya,
> > >and Karlovic.
>
> > Really should have heard about him then.
>
> Don't be hard on yourself. Kid was practically born next door to me. I
> didn't know about him either.

Heh, he even won his first futures tournament in a town which is very
close to me. :)


  
Date: 10 Jan 2009 22:13:56
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:38:22 -0500, pltrgyst
<pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:39:51 +0200, Sakari Lund <sakari.lund@welho.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
>>Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
>>Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
>>Has anyone here?
>
>He's the guy who beat John Isner in the NCAA final. He made three straight NCAA
>singles finals from the University of Virginia, winning in 2007 and 2008, and
>played doubles with one of our DC-area locals, Treat Huey.

That seems to be the case usually with unknown players. They have
played US college tennis, so nobody outside US doesn't know anything
about that.

>He played here in Washington at last year's Legg Mason, making the quarters.
>Beat Taylor Dent first round, then Robert Kendrick, before losing to Kunitsyn.

Should have heard about him then. But was that at the same time with
Olympics? No time to follow regular tournaments then.

>According to his bio on Wikipedia, he's got wins over Querrey, Malisse, Moya,
>and Karlovic.

Really should have heard about him then.




   
Date: 11 Jan 2009 14:43:57
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:13:56 +0200, Sakari Lund
<sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:38:22 -0500, pltrgyst
><pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:39:51 +0200, Sakari Lund <sakari.lund@welho.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
>>>Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
>>>Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
>>>Has anyone here?
>>
>>He's the guy who beat John Isner in the NCAA final. He made three straight NCAA
>>singles finals from the University of Virginia, winning in 2007 and 2008, and
>>played doubles with one of our DC-area locals, Treat Huey.
>
>That seems to be the case usually with unknown players. They have
>played US college tennis, so nobody outside US doesn't know anything
>about that.
>
>>He played here in Washington at last year's Legg Mason, making the quarters.
>>Beat Taylor Dent first round, then Robert Kendrick, before losing to Kunitsyn.
>
>Should have heard about him then. But was that at the same time with
>Olympics? No time to follow regular tournaments then.
>
>>According to his bio on Wikipedia, he's got wins over Querrey, Malisse, Moya,
>>and Karlovic.
>
>Really should have heard about him then.

Unless all those wins are from this week. I am too lazy to check. I
know Karlovic is this week.



 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 10:55:24
From: John P
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
I have heard of him because the Washington Post has had at least one
article about him, probably in the context of the Legg Mason tournament.
The Post did a piece on him because he is a local kid of sorts - he
played college tennis at the University of Virginia. Indeed, today's
Post reports:

Ivo Karlovic of Croatia lost, 7-6 (7-4), 6-4, to Indian wild-card Somdev
Devvarman in a quarterfinal at the Chennai Open in India. The
202nd-ranked Devvarman, who won NCAA titles in 2006 and '07 at Virginia,
reached his first ATP semifinal in his hometown tournament and becase
the first Indian to reach the Chennai semifinals since Leander Paes in
1998. He next plays Rainier Schuettler.



 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 16:46:03
From: m4816k
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
"Sakari Lund" <sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote in message
news:e4ghm4t9dj9dr1ammra39rq79jvv9mn5g5@4ax.com...
>
> There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
> Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
> Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
> Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
> you think? :-)

I watched him yesterday and the commentator said that 2008. was his first
real season cause he was playing college tennis in the States (and after
only such short time on tour he's already around #200). According to the
same source he is a double NCAA champion. From what I saw, he's playing like
a top50 already and is very quick around the court.




  
Date: 11 Jan 2009 19:26:48
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Somdev Devvarman
m4816k wrote:
> "Sakari Lund" <sakari.lund@welho.com> wrote in message
> news:e4ghm4t9dj9dr1ammra39rq79jvv9mn5g5@4ax.com...
>> There was a thread while ago about which names people recognize from
>> Doha qualifying. I knew most of the names. But now there is Somdev
>> Devvarman in the FINAL of Chennai, and I have never hears about him.
>> Has anyone here? India becoming a tennis power again? Raja, what do
>> you think? :-)
>
> I watched him yesterday and the commentator said that 2008. was his first
> real season cause he was playing college tennis in the States (and after
> only such short time on tour he's already around #200). According to the
> same source he is a double NCAA champion. From what I saw, he's playing like
> a top50 already and is very quick around the court.
>
>


Fed will need a Blake/Berdych type in slam final to get there.