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Date: 19 Jan 2009 14:35:30
From: X L
Subject: The court is slow as hell

I can't fathom why anybody thinks this slow court helps Federer. points
are longer. its harder to put the ball away. looks taylor made for
Nadals game. shame on Nadal if he can't win on this court. its slow like
Miami's hard court.





 
Date: 20 Jan 2009 01:00:46
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: The court is slow as hell
On Jan 19, 7:35=A0pm, Xzan...@webtv.net (X L) wrote:
> I can't fathom why anybody thinks this slow court helps Federer. points
> are longer. its harder to put the ball away. looks taylor made for
> Nadals game. shame on Nadal if he can't win on this court. its slow like
> Miami's hard court.

I thought the whole point of replacing the rebound ace was because
hewitt said it was like playing on dog shit. Seems this plexicushion
is even worse. What a bunch or clowns. SLOW hardcourts should NOT
exist...


  
Date: 20 Jan 2009 09:30:36
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: The court is slow as hell
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:00:46 -0800 (PST), Professor X
<suebokaian@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 19, 7:35 pm, Xzan...@webtv.net (X L) wrote:
>> I can't fathom why anybody thinks this slow court helps Federer. points
>> are longer. its harder to put the ball away. looks taylor made for
>> Nadals game. shame on Nadal if he can't win on this court. its slow like
>> Miami's hard court.
>
>I thought the whole point of replacing the rebound ace was because
>hewitt said it was like playing on dog shit. Seems this plexicushion
>is even worse. What a bunch or clowns. SLOW hardcourts should NOT
>exist...


You have to make allowances. Afterall, they're Australian.


 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 21:30:24
From: Carey
Subject: Re: The court is slow as hell


kaennorsing wrote:
> On 20 jan, 01:34, Patrick Kehoe <pke...@telus.net> wrote:
> > On Jan 19, 11:35?am, Xzan...@webtv.net (X L) wrote:
> >
> > > I can't fathom why anybody thinks this slow court helps Federer. points
> > > are longer. its harder to put the ball away. looks taylor made for
> > > Nadals game. shame on Nadal if he can't win on this court. its slow like
> > > Miami's hard court.
> >
> > ++ Brad Gilbert went on and on how it helps Federer (a slower hard
> > court) to run around strategic shots to unload the forehand... allows
> > him that little extra time to hit his back hand with authority (always
> > hits the backhand wing better on slower hardcourts") and since he
> > relies on placement and kick on his serves it especially helps him
> > there... and he's not exactly Fed's biggest fan... Brad being Brad
> >
> > P
>
> Fed usually hits a (relatively) flat ball when he runs around the
> forehand and the flat ball doesn't skid through a lot on the slow
> court. The retriever will simply guide the ball in the open corner for
> winner. I also disagree to the backhand being better on slower
> hardcourts. *Everybody* has that extra time on the backhand to hit it
> better. One of Federer's greatest strengths is what he's able to do
> with fast balls and little time.
>
> Illustrative are the slam titles. 5 on fast hc vs 3 on slow hc. Also
> 10 slams on 'fast' surfaces vs 3 on slow.
>
> He may be right about the court not bouncing as high and therefore
> hurting Nadal. The one player this court seems tailored for is Murray;
> counter punching with a mixture of off-pace stuff. Get his opponents
> to attack on or beyond the baseline and then to hit it back deep with
> some extra pace.

Good post- thanks.


 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 18:01:40
From: kaennorsing
Subject: Re: The court is slow as hell
On 20 jan, 01:34, Patrick Kehoe <pke...@telus.net > wrote:
> On Jan 19, 11:35=A0am, Xzan...@webtv.net (X L) wrote:
>
> > I can't fathom why anybody thinks this slow court helps Federer. points
> > are longer. its harder to put the ball away. looks taylor made for
> > Nadals game. shame on Nadal if he can't win on this court. its slow lik=
e
> > Miami's hard court.
>
> ++ Brad Gilbert went on and on how it helps Federer (a slower hard
> court) to run around strategic shots to unload the forehand... allows
> him that little extra time to hit his back hand with authority (always
> hits the backhand wing better on slower hardcourts") and since he
> relies on placement and kick on his serves it especially helps him
> there... and he's not exactly Fed's biggest fan... Brad being Brad
>
> P

Fed usually hits a (relatively) flat ball when he runs around the
forehand and the flat ball doesn't skid through a lot on the slow
court. The retriever will simply guide the ball in the open corner for
winner. I also disagree to the backhand being better on slower
hardcourts. *Everybody* has that extra time on the backhand to hit it
better. One of Federer's greatest strengths is what he's able to do
with fast balls and little time.

Illustrative are the slam titles. 5 on fast hc vs 3 on slow hc. Also
10 slams on 'fast' surfaces vs 3 on slow.

He may be right about the court not bouncing as high and therefore
hurting Nadal. The one player this court seems tailored for is Murray;
counter punching with a mixture of off-pace stuff. Get his opponents
to attack on or beyond the baseline and then to hit it back deep with
some extra pace.


 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 19:41:57
From: John P
Subject: Re: The court is slow as hell
well, Gilbert also said it hurts Nadal because his shots won't have as
much bounce.



 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 16:34:52
From: Patrick Kehoe
Subject: Re: The court is slow as hell
On Jan 19, 11:35=A0am, Xzan...@webtv.net (X L) wrote:
> I can't fathom why anybody thinks this slow court helps Federer. points
> are longer. its harder to put the ball away. looks taylor made for
> Nadals game. shame on Nadal if he can't win on this court. its slow like
> Miami's hard court.

++ Brad Gilbert went on and on how it helps Federer (a slower hard
court) to run around strategic shots to unload the forehand... allows
him that little extra time to hit his back hand with authority (always
hits the backhand wing better on slower hardcourts") and since he
relies on placement and kick on his serves it especially helps him
there... and he's not exactly Fed's biggest fan... Brad being Brad

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