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Date: 15 Jan 2009 10:43:10
From: Wayne
Subject: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521925.ece

That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
itself yet again.







 
Date: 17 Jan 2009 22:02:04
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 18, 3:11=A0am, Pepe Papon
<seth.at.rowtown.dot....@earthlink.invalid > wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:48:35 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
>
>
>
>
> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 16, 9:00=A0am, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid>
> >wrote:
> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:54:45 +0100, "*skriptis"
>
> >> <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
> >> >Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
> >> >terrorist state.
>
> >> >And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
> >> >organisations.
> >> >Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and w=
ho is
> >> >the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>
> >> It's amazing what some people try to pass off as logic on Usenet.
>
> >Jew Nazis love Hitler.
>
> Troll or plain stupidity?

Do you have a Hitler in every room?



  
Date: 18 Jan 2009 16:50:59
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:02:04 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 18, 3:11 am, Pepe Papon
><seth.at.rowtown.dot....@earthlink.invalid> wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:48:35 -0800 (PST), Fan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 16, 9:00 am, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:54:45 +0100, "*skriptis"
>>
>> >> <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
>> >> >Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
>> >> >terrorist state.
>>
>> >> >And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
>> >> >organisations.
>> >> >Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and who is
>> >> >the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>>
>> >> It's amazing what some people try to pass off as logic on Usenet.
>>
>> >Jew Nazis love Hitler.
>>
>> Troll or plain stupidity?
>
>Do you have a Hitler in every room?

Do you have a brain cell in your head?


 
Date: 17 Jan 2009 22:00:50
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 17, 11:02=A0pm, "Neverchop" <neverc...@lotto.com > wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3dcc6c73-80d2-4003-98a6-97149a421992@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Since when is using good ole Willie Pete shameful? =A0 America has used
> > it in every war it ever fought since it's availablility. I'm not 100%
> > sure that we have used it in the gulf, but we used thousands of tons
> > of it in WW2 Korea and Vietnam.
>
> Willie Pete is fine but to a neo-nazi\skinhead\punk-bitch such as those i=
n
> this thread, slaughtering sand niggers is just wrong. Personally when it
> comes to Gaza I'd use a small tactical nuke, preferably of the neutron bo=
mb
> kind - depending on the prevailing winds at the time, but that's just me.

No Nazi like a Jew Nazi...



 
Date: 17 Jan 2009 09:47:19
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 17, 1:46=A0pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com >
wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:10:30 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >Fan wrote:
> >> I am not in favor of killing anyone.
>
> >Neither am I, but some cases would be less serious than others (eg
> >Haze/Raja).
>
> too bad we are not living in rome around 50BC or I would have to
> challenge you to a fight to the death in the colosseum over that
> remark.

The Romans had gladiators fighting lions and stuff but I have never
heard of monkeys :)


 
Date: 17 Jan 2009 09:44:54
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 17, 12:10=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Fan wrote:
> > I am not in favor of killing anyone.
>
> Neither am I, but some cases would be less serious than others (eg
> Haze/Raja).

I have to think about that :)


 
Date: 17 Jan 2009 04:19:37
From: Alim Nassor
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 15, 12:43=A0pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>
> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> itself yet again.

Since when is using good ole Willie Pete shameful? America has used
it in every war it ever fought since it's availablility. I'm not 100%
sure that we have used it in the gulf, but we used thousands of tons
of it in WW2 Korea and Vietnam.


  
Date: 17 Jan 2009 16:02:48
From: Neverchop
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Alim Nassor" <alimnassor@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:3dcc6c73-80d2-4003-98a6-97149a421992@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Since when is using good ole Willie Pete shameful? America has used
> it in every war it ever fought since it's availablility. I'm not 100%
> sure that we have used it in the gulf, but we used thousands of tons
> of it in WW2 Korea and Vietnam.

Willie Pete is fine but to a neo-nazi\skinhead\punk-bitch such as those in
this thread, slaughtering sand niggers is just wrong. Personally when it
comes to Gaza I'd use a small tactical nuke, preferably of the neutron bomb
kind - depending on the prevailing winds at the time, but that's just me.







   
Date: 17 Jan 2009 16:34:24
From: Leo Sgouros
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
"Neverchop" <neverchop@lotto.com > wrote in message
news:gktkfo$uso$1@news.motzarella.org...
>
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnassor@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3dcc6c73-80d2-4003-98a6-97149a421992@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Since when is using good ole Willie Pete shameful? America has used
>> it in every war it ever fought since it's availablility. I'm not 100%
>> sure that we have used it in the gulf, but we used thousands of tons
>> of it in WW2 Korea and Vietnam.
>
> Willie Pete is fine but to a neo-nazi\skinhead\punk-bitch such as those in
> this thread, slaughtering sand niggers is just wrong. Personally when it
> comes to Gaza I'd use a small tactical nuke, preferably of the neutron
> bomb
> kind - depending on the prevailing winds at the time, but that's just me.
>
>
>

Prevailing winds don't matter with neutron weapons-it is designed to dump
most of its energy in the form of neutron radiation, the largest amount of
casualties are due to ionizing radiation from the initial blast.
However, we got the drift.



    
Date: 17 Jan 2009 17:15:42
From: Neverchop
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Leo Sgouros" <hanaram857@archangels.mil > wrote in message
news:gktmdv$dmf$1@nntp.motzarella.org...
> "Neverchop" <neverchop@lotto.com> wrote in message
> news:gktkfo$uso$1@news.motzarella.org...
> >
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnassor@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
news:3dcc6c73-80d2-4003-98a6-97149a421992@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> Since when is using good ole Willie Pete shameful? America has used
> >> it in every war it ever fought since it's availablility. I'm not 100%
> >> sure that we have used it in the gulf, but we used thousands of tons
> >> of it in WW2 Korea and Vietnam.
> >
> > Willie Pete is fine but to a neo-nazi\skinhead\punk-bitch such as those
in
> > this thread, slaughtering sand niggers is just wrong. Personally when it
> > comes to Gaza I'd use a small tactical nuke, preferably of the neutron
> > bomb
> > kind - depending on the prevailing winds at the time, but that's just
me.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Prevailing winds don't matter with neutron weapons-it is designed to dump
> most of its energy in the form of neutron radiation, the largest amount of
> casualties are due to ionizing radiation from the initial blast.
> However, we got the drift.


You are correct about the neutron flash but the choice was meant to
differentiate between the fallout of a standard nuke based on the prevailing
winds at the time. Wind blowing toward your enemy - use standard
thermonuclear device. Wind blowing toward you - use neutron device. Its
choices such as these that can result in a true win-win when it comes to
annihilating your enemy. Especially in such tiny nations. I bet Israel has
both kinds too. Not to mention the nation killing enhanced radiation cobalt
jacketed devices they would use on Russia or Syria or Iran, etc. I hear just
one of those can wipe out an area the size of Syria.







 
Date: 17 Jan 2009 01:17:09
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 17, 10:01=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "Fan" <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:64c29f8c-1a88-4d07-b01e-52051651034f@m4g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 16, 12:03 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:30:57 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
> > <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Jan 15, 8:18 pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> > >> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com=
...
>
> > >> >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521=
92...
>
> > >> > That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a
> > >> > bit
> > >> > thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was ther=
e
> > >> > any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shame=
d
> > >> > itself yet again.
>
> > >> The only shame Israel suffered was waiting so long to retaliate agai=
nst
> > >> Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired in to Israeli cities a=
nd
> > >> towns. Hamas are lying, terrorist murderers who hide behind civilian=
s
> > >> because they've never had the balls for a stand-up fight with the
> > >> Israelis.
> > >> Now that Hamas is getting its ass kicked it suddently wants to
> > >> negotiate a
> > >> cease fire. Israel will, once again, cave in to international pressu=
re
> > >> and
> > >> agree. Hamas will honor the cease fire just long enough to get in a
> > >> fresh
> > >> supply of rockets and guns from Iran and Syria. As soon as Hasas get=
s
> > >> reloaded they'll go back in to Gaza neighborhoods, grab more human
> > >> shields
> > >> to hide behind, and start firing rockets in to Israel again.
>
> > >> Irish Mike
>
> > >If the Jew Nazis are justified then so were the German Nazis.
> > >No more holoshit garbage, please.
>
> > a lot of people after seeing this are in fact wishing that Adolf had
> > finished the job.
>
> I am not in favor of killing anyone. Murdering helpless and innocent
> people was wrong then and it is wrong now. It is obvious that Jew
> Nazis are no different from what the German Nazis were. The victims
> and perpetrators are different but everything else is the same. Hitler
> is the spiritual guru and mentor of Jew Nazis. They must love him and
> honor him so much, that it would not surprise me to see them erect a
> large statue of Hitler in Tel-Aviv.
> It is just a matter of time before these Jew Nazis start hailing
> Hitler in Jewish :)
>
> You always hear about these anti-Semitic hate mongers who blame the Jews =
for
> all the world's ills but I'd never met one until you and a few of your pa=
ls
> started posting on RGP. =A0Personally, I don't get it. =A0Seems to me tha=
t with
> all the muslim nut cases that have sworn to destroy America and Israel, t=
he
> Jews are the least of America's problems. =A0I've yet to hear of Jews
> highjacking an airplane and flying it in to an American building. =A0Or o=
f a
> Jew strapping on a suicide bomber vest and blowing up a bunch of American=
s.
> Or of a Jew calling for a jihad against America. =A0Seriously bucko, guys=
like
> you are a total mystery to me.
>
> Irish Mike

You must have never heard of USS Liberty, the Rosenbergs and the
hordes of other Jews who betrayed America for Stalin.
Jewish Communists have done more harm to America and the free world
than the Muslim terrorists. We would not have the problems with the
Muslims we are having if Nazi Israel with the help of Jewish did not
make America their enemy. Until Nazi Israel started murdering them, we
got along just fine and they sold us their oil at reasonable prices.
We are in the mess we are because of Nazi Israel and the Jewish Lobby.
Nazi Israel is destroying America.




 
Date: 16 Jan 2009 23:39:56
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 16, 12:03=A0pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com >
wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:30:57 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
>
>
>
>
> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 15, 8:18=A0pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com..=
.
>
> >> >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192=
...
>
> >> > That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a b=
it
> >> > thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> >> > any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> >> > itself yet again.
>
> >> The only shame Israel suffered was waiting so long to retaliate agains=
t
> >> Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired in to Israeli cities and
> >> towns. =A0Hamas are lying, terrorist murderers who hide behind civilia=
ns
> >> because they've never had the balls for a stand-up fight with the Isra=
elis.
> >> Now that Hamas is getting its ass kicked it suddently wants to negotia=
te a
> >> cease fire. =A0Israel will, once again, cave in to international press=
ure and
> >> agree. =A0Hamas will honor the cease fire just long enough to get in a=
fresh
> >> supply of rockets and guns from Iran and Syria. =A0As soon as Hasas ge=
ts
> >> reloaded they'll go back in to Gaza neighborhoods, grab more human shi=
elds
> >> to hide behind, and start firing rockets in to Israel again.
>
> >> Irish Mike
>
> >If the Jew Nazis are justified then so were the German Nazis.
> >No more holoshit garbage, please.
>
> a lot of people after seeing this are in fact wishing that Adolf had
> finished the job.

I am not in favor of killing anyone. Murdering helpless and innocent
people was wrong then and it is wrong now. It is obvious that Jew
Nazis are no different from what the German Nazis were. The victims
and perpetrators are different but everything else is the same. Hitler
is the spiritual guru and mentor of Jew Nazis. They must love him and
honor him so much, that it would not surprise me to see them erect a
large statue of Hitler in Tel-Aviv.
It is just a matter of time before these Jew Nazis start hailing
Hitler in Jewish :)




  
Date: 17 Jan 2009 22:10:30
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
Fan wrote:
> I am not in favor of killing anyone.


Neither am I, but some cases would be less serious than others (eg
Haze/Raja).


   
Date: 17 Jan 2009 12:46:32
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:10:30 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Fan wrote:
>> I am not in favor of killing anyone.
>
>
>Neither am I, but some cases would be less serious than others (eg
>Haze/Raja).


too bad we are not living in rome around 50BC or I would have to
challenge you to a fight to the death in the colosseum over that
remark.


  
Date: 17 Jan 2009 04:01:29
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Fan" <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:64c29f8c-1a88-4d07-b01e-52051651034f@m4g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 16, 12:03 pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com >
wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:30:57 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
>
>
>
>
> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 15, 8:18 pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>
> >> > That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a
> >> > bit
> >> > thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> >> > any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> >> > itself yet again.
>
> >> The only shame Israel suffered was waiting so long to retaliate against
> >> Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired in to Israeli cities and
> >> towns. Hamas are lying, terrorist murderers who hide behind civilians
> >> because they've never had the balls for a stand-up fight with the
> >> Israelis.
> >> Now that Hamas is getting its ass kicked it suddently wants to
> >> negotiate a
> >> cease fire. Israel will, once again, cave in to international pressure
> >> and
> >> agree. Hamas will honor the cease fire just long enough to get in a
> >> fresh
> >> supply of rockets and guns from Iran and Syria. As soon as Hasas gets
> >> reloaded they'll go back in to Gaza neighborhoods, grab more human
> >> shields
> >> to hide behind, and start firing rockets in to Israel again.
>
> >> Irish Mike
>
> >If the Jew Nazis are justified then so were the German Nazis.
> >No more holoshit garbage, please.
>
> a lot of people after seeing this are in fact wishing that Adolf had
> finished the job.

I am not in favor of killing anyone. Murdering helpless and innocent
people was wrong then and it is wrong now. It is obvious that Jew
Nazis are no different from what the German Nazis were. The victims
and perpetrators are different but everything else is the same. Hitler
is the spiritual guru and mentor of Jew Nazis. They must love him and
honor him so much, that it would not surprise me to see them erect a
large statue of Hitler in Tel-Aviv.
It is just a matter of time before these Jew Nazis start hailing
Hitler in Jewish :)

You always hear about these anti-Semitic hate mongers who blame the Jews for
all the world's ills but I'd never met one until you and a few of your pals
started posting on RGP. Personally, I don't get it. Seems to me that with
all the muslim nut cases that have sworn to destroy America and Israel, the
Jews are the least of America's problems. I've yet to hear of Jews
highjacking an airplane and flying it in to an American building. Or of a
Jew strapping on a suicide bomber vest and blowing up a bunch of Americans.
Or of a Jew calling for a jihad against America. Seriously bucko, guys like
you are a total mystery to me.

Irish Mike




 
Date: 16 Jan 2009 01:50:29
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 16, 8:13=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "Fan" <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:759270fc-76be-4d0f-9dab-f90c872207f9@m22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 15, 9:22 pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>
> >news:gko3nv$6kp$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> > > "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > >news:W1Mbl.2088$%54.1927@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> > >> "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
> > >>news:gko0pv$t1g$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> > >>> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.co=
m...
> > >>>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521=
92...
>
> > >>>> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a
> > >>>> bit
> > >>>> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was ther=
e
> > >>>> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shame=
d
> > >>>> itself yet again.
>
> > >>> Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself int=
o
> > >>> terrorist state.
>
> > >>> And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
> > >>> organisations.
> > >>> Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and
> > >>> who
> > >>> is the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>
> > >> Israel is completely surrounded and out numbered 500 to 1 by muslims
> > >> who
> > >> have sworn to destroy it and slaughter all the Jews. Muslims who
> > >> constantly
> > >> call for their followers to murder Israeli men, women and children b=
y
> > >> any
> > >> means possible, including suicide bombing. And they tell these
> > >> followers
> > >> that if they die murdering Jews they will go to heaven and have 72
> > >> virgins.
> > >> The muslims worked with Hitler in WWII to murder Jews. The muslims
> > >> launched the "six day war" against
> > >> Israel in the 1960s. They've sent hundreds of terrorists and suicide
> > >> bombers to murder Israeli
> > >> women and children. They attacked and murdered Israeli athletes at t=
he
> > >> Olympics.
> > >> Israel offered them their own country at the Camp David meetings in =
the
> > >> 1990s. They rejected the offer and chose to send in more
> > >> terrorists and suicide bombers. Hezbollah crossed the border from
> > >> Lebanon
> > >> in to Israel and attacked, killed and kidnapped Israeli citizens. Th=
e
> > >> Israelis
> > >> pulled their people out of Gaza and gave it to the Palestinians to
> > >> promote
> > >> peace. Hamas rejected peace and used Gaza as a base to fire thousand=
s
> > >> of
> > >> rockets in to Israeli cities and towns. Both Hamas and Hezbollah hav=
e
> > >> repeatedly vowed to destroy Israel and murder all the Jews. Iran is
> > >> developing nuclear weapons and their leader has repeatedly said ther=
e
> > >> can
> > >> never be peace with Israel. He has repeatedly and publicly vowed to
> > >> destroy Israel and drive all of the Jews in to the sea.
> > >> America just elected an ultra liberal, retreat-and-surrender command=
er
> > >> in
> > >> chief who spent 20 years attending a church that preached anti-Semit=
ic
> > >> ideology. Then lied about it.
>
> > >> So put yourself in Israel's shoes for a minute. If you were surround=
ed
> > >> and
> > >> greatly out numbered by an enemy who says there can never be peace
> > >> between
> > >> you. Who has repeatedly vowed to destroy your country and slaughter
> > >> every
> > >> man, woman and child. Who has attacked your citizens repeatedly on y=
our
> > >> own
> > >> soil with suicide bombers. Who has launched a war of invasion agains=
t
> > >> you.
> > >> And has fired thousands of rockets in to your towns and cities. And =
now
> > >> this enemy is on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. And your
> > >> main
> > >> ally just elected a weak, inexperienced leader who says he's going t=
o
> > >> cut
> > >> and run out of the area as soon as he can. What would you do?
>
> > >> Irish Mike
>
> > > Any state that fires a misslile from a helicopter in the middle of a
> > > city
> > > to "execute" a terrorist leader, killing inocent civilians alongside =
is
> > > a
> > > terrorist state.
> > > Because of it I have no respect for the state of Israel nor I will
> > > regret
> > > any fate they suffer.
>
> > If the enemy is hiding behind civilians, as Hamas does, and is shooting=
at
> > you, you return fire. You want to get pissed about some one killing
> > civilians? Start with Hamas who uses them as human shields. If Hamas
> > didn't fight from civilian houses, Israel wouldn't bomb civilian houses=
.
>
> > > They have all the power there, all the help from the USA, all the
> > > recources, not the Palestinians. It was their responsability to achie=
ve
> > > peace and it was a task they were unable to fullfil during the last 6=
0
> > > years. Shame on them.
>
> > It is not Israel's "responsibility" to achieve peace. How do you "achie=
ve
> > peace with a fanatic, hate-obsessed islamic enemy who says there can ne=
ver
> > be peace and who has sworn to destroy your country and slaughter every
> > Jewish man, woman and child? Hamas has broken every agreement, truce an=
d
> > cease-fire that it ever signed with Israel. Israel gave them Gaza to
> > achieve peace. Hamas rejected peace and chose, instead, to hide behind
> > civilians in Gaza neighborhoods to fire rockets in to Israeli cities an=
d
> > towns. You refuse to accept the dundamental fact that Hamas are fanatic=
s.
> > They need a war with Israel to justify their existence and to keep thei=
r
> > power. If Hamas wanted peace with Israel they could have it tomorrow. A=
ll
> > they have to do is stop killing Jews on Israeli soil. Israel built a
> > security wall to keep islamic suicide bombers and terrorists out of the=
ir
> > country. Islamic terrorists climb over the wall because they want to ge=
t
> > in
> > to Israel to kill Jews.
>
> > Irish Mike
>
> Hitler must be your hero.
>
> Newsflash bucko. =A0The Jews were not the Nazis. =A0The Jews (about 6,000=
,000 of
> them) were the ones being exterminated by the Nazis. =A0I know these fact=
s can
> be confusing so maybe you should try writing yourself some post-it notes.
> BTW, did it sting when you had that swastika tattooed on your ass?
>
> Irish Mike

Jews are the Nazis now and Hitler is their hero and mentor.


  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 09:41:10
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Fan" <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:21769ed8-10bc-4350-b311-0827885772d1@p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...


>Jews are the Nazis now and Hitler is their hero and mentor.



D+




  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 10:55:45
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Fan" <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:21769ed8-10bc-4350-b311-0827885772d1@p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 16, 8:13 am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "Fan" <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:759270fc-76be-4d0f-9dab-f90c872207f9@m22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 15, 9:22 pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>
> >news:gko3nv$6kp$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> > > "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > >news:W1Mbl.2088$%54.1927@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> > >> "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
> > >>news:gko0pv$t1g$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> > >>> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> > >>>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>
> > >>>> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a
> > >>>> bit
> > >>>> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> > >>>> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> > >>>> itself yet again.
>
> > >>> Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
> > >>> terrorist state.
>
> > >>> And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
> > >>> organisations.
> > >>> Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and
> > >>> who
> > >>> is the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>
> > >> Israel is completely surrounded and out numbered 500 to 1 by muslims
> > >> who
> > >> have sworn to destroy it and slaughter all the Jews. Muslims who
> > >> constantly
> > >> call for their followers to murder Israeli men, women and children by
> > >> any
> > >> means possible, including suicide bombing. And they tell these
> > >> followers
> > >> that if they die murdering Jews they will go to heaven and have 72
> > >> virgins.
> > >> The muslims worked with Hitler in WWII to murder Jews. The muslims
> > >> launched the "six day war" against
> > >> Israel in the 1960s. They've sent hundreds of terrorists and suicide
> > >> bombers to murder Israeli
> > >> women and children. They attacked and murdered Israeli athletes at
> > >> the
> > >> Olympics.
> > >> Israel offered them their own country at the Camp David meetings in
> > >> the
> > >> 1990s. They rejected the offer and chose to send in more
> > >> terrorists and suicide bombers. Hezbollah crossed the border from
> > >> Lebanon
> > >> in to Israel and attacked, killed and kidnapped Israeli citizens. The
> > >> Israelis
> > >> pulled their people out of Gaza and gave it to the Palestinians to
> > >> promote
> > >> peace. Hamas rejected peace and used Gaza as a base to fire thousands
> > >> of
> > >> rockets in to Israeli cities and towns. Both Hamas and Hezbollah have
> > >> repeatedly vowed to destroy Israel and murder all the Jews. Iran is
> > >> developing nuclear weapons and their leader has repeatedly said there
> > >> can
> > >> never be peace with Israel. He has repeatedly and publicly vowed to
> > >> destroy Israel and drive all of the Jews in to the sea.
> > >> America just elected an ultra liberal, retreat-and-surrender
> > >> commander
> > >> in
> > >> chief who spent 20 years attending a church that preached
> > >> anti-Semitic
> > >> ideology. Then lied about it.
>
> > >> So put yourself in Israel's shoes for a minute. If you were
> > >> surrounded
> > >> and
> > >> greatly out numbered by an enemy who says there can never be peace
> > >> between
> > >> you. Who has repeatedly vowed to destroy your country and slaughter
> > >> every
> > >> man, woman and child. Who has attacked your citizens repeatedly on
> > >> your
> > >> own
> > >> soil with suicide bombers. Who has launched a war of invasion against
> > >> you.
> > >> And has fired thousands of rockets in to your towns and cities. And
> > >> now
> > >> this enemy is on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. And your
> > >> main
> > >> ally just elected a weak, inexperienced leader who says he's going to
> > >> cut
> > >> and run out of the area as soon as he can. What would you do?
>
> > >> Irish Mike
>
> > > Any state that fires a misslile from a helicopter in the middle of a
> > > city
> > > to "execute" a terrorist leader, killing inocent civilians alongside
> > > is
> > > a
> > > terrorist state.
> > > Because of it I have no respect for the state of Israel nor I will
> > > regret
> > > any fate they suffer.
>
> > If the enemy is hiding behind civilians, as Hamas does, and is shooting
> > at
> > you, you return fire. You want to get pissed about some one killing
> > civilians? Start with Hamas who uses them as human shields. If Hamas
> > didn't fight from civilian houses, Israel wouldn't bomb civilian houses.
>
> > > They have all the power there, all the help from the USA, all the
> > > recources, not the Palestinians. It was their responsability to
> > > achieve
> > > peace and it was a task they were unable to fullfil during the last 60
> > > years. Shame on them.
>
> > It is not Israel's "responsibility" to achieve peace. How do you
> > "achieve
> > peace with a fanatic, hate-obsessed islamic enemy who says there can
> > never
> > be peace and who has sworn to destroy your country and slaughter every
> > Jewish man, woman and child? Hamas has broken every agreement, truce and
> > cease-fire that it ever signed with Israel. Israel gave them Gaza to
> > achieve peace. Hamas rejected peace and chose, instead, to hide behind
> > civilians in Gaza neighborhoods to fire rockets in to Israeli cities and
> > towns. You refuse to accept the dundamental fact that Hamas are
> > fanatics.
> > They need a war with Israel to justify their existence and to keep their
> > power. If Hamas wanted peace with Israel they could have it tomorrow.
> > All
> > they have to do is stop killing Jews on Israeli soil. Israel built a
> > security wall to keep islamic suicide bombers and terrorists out of
> > their
> > country. Islamic terrorists climb over the wall because they want to get
> > in
> > to Israel to kill Jews.
>
> > Irish Mike
>
> Hitler must be your hero.
>
> Newsflash bucko. The Jews were not the Nazis. The Jews (about 6,000,000 of
> them) were the ones being exterminated by the Nazis. I know these facts
> can
> be confusing so maybe you should try writing yourself some post-it notes.
> BTW, did it sting when you had that swastika tattooed on your ass?
>
> Irish Mike

Jews are the Nazis now and Hitler is their hero and mentor.

***


I'd rather say Israelis, but yes, I agree.

Even during Hitler's regime children weren't taught to hate this much:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/thomasn528/bombsigning3.jpg

In the end causing this:
http://stopmebeforeivoteagain.org/cluster-bomb.jpg


From a child to a child.
Disgusting.





 
Date: 16 Jan 2009 01:48:35
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 16, 9:00=A0am, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid >
wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:54:45 +0100, "*skriptis"
>
> <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
> >Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
> >terrorist state.
>
> >And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
> >organisations.
> >Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and who =
is
> >the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>
> It's amazing what some people try to pass off as logic on Usenet.

Jew Nazis love Hitler.


  
Date: 17 Jan 2009 18:11:24
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:48:35 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 16, 9:00 am, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:54:45 +0100, "*skriptis"
>>
>> <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
>> >Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
>> >terrorist state.
>>
>> >And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
>> >organisations.
>> >Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and who is
>> >the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>>
>> It's amazing what some people try to pass off as logic on Usenet.
>
>Jew Nazis love Hitler.

Troll or plain stupidity?


  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 13:47:21
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:48:35 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 16, 9:00 am, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:54:45 +0100, "*skriptis"
>>
>> <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
>> >Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
>> >terrorist state.
>>
>> >And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
>> >organisations.
>> >Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and who is
>> >the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>>
>> It's amazing what some people try to pass off as logic on Usenet.
>
>Jew Nazis love Hitler.

Case in point.


 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 22:32:01
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 15, 9:22=A0pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>
> news:gko3nv$6kp$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> >news:W1Mbl.2088$%54.1927@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> >> "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
> >>news:gko0pv$t1g$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> >>> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com.=
..
> >>>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192=
...
>
> >>>> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a b=
it
> >>>> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> >>>> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> >>>> itself yet again.
>
> >>> Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
> >>> terrorist state.
>
> >>> And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
> >>> organisations.
> >>> Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and w=
ho
> >>> is the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>
> >> Israel is completely surrounded and out numbered 500 to 1 by muslims w=
ho
> >> have sworn to destroy it and slaughter all the Jews. =A0Muslims who
> >> constantly
> >> call for their followers to murder Israeli men, women and children by =
any
> >> means possible, including suicide bombing. =A0And they tell these foll=
owers
> >> that if they die murdering Jews they will go to heaven and have 72
> >> virgins.
> >> The muslims worked with Hitler in WWII to murder Jews. =A0The muslims
> >> launched the "six day war" against
> >> Israel in the 1960s. =A0They've sent hundreds of terrorists and suicid=
e
> >> bombers to murder Israeli
> >> women and children. =A0They attacked and murdered Israeli athletes at =
the
> >> Olympics.
> >> Israel offered them their own country at the Camp David meetings in th=
e
> >> 1990s. =A0They rejected the offer and chose to send in more
> >> terrorists and suicide bombers. =A0Hezbollah crossed the border from
> >> Lebanon
> >> in to Israel and attacked, killed and kidnapped Israeli citizens. =A0T=
he
> >> Israelis
> >> pulled their people out of Gaza and gave it to the Palestinians to
> >> promote
> >> peace. =A0Hamas rejected peace and used Gaza as a base to fire thousan=
ds of
> >> rockets in to Israeli cities and towns. =A0Both Hamas and Hezbollah ha=
ve
> >> repeatedly vowed to destroy Israel and murder all the Jews. =A0Iran is
> >> developing nuclear weapons and their leader has repeatedly said there =
can
> >> never be peace with Israel. =A0He has repeatedly and publicly vowed to
> >> destroy Israel and drive all of the Jews in to the sea.
> >> America just elected an ultra liberal, retreat-and-surrender commander=
in
> >> chief who spent 20 years attending a church that preached anti-Semitic
> >> ideology. =A0Then lied about it.
>
> >> So put yourself in Israel's shoes for a minute. =A0If you were surroun=
ded
> >> and
> >> greatly out numbered by an enemy who says there can never be peace
> >> between
> >> you. =A0Who has repeatedly vowed to destroy your country and slaughter
> >> every
> >> man, woman and child. =A0Who has attacked your citizens repeatedly on =
your
> >> own
> >> soil with suicide bombers. =A0Who has launched a war of invasion again=
st
> >> you.
> >> And has fired thousands of rockets in to your towns and cities. =A0And=
now
> >> this enemy is on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. And your ma=
in
> >> ally just elected a weak, inexperienced leader who says he's going to =
cut
> >> and run out of the area as soon as he can. What would you do?
>
> >> Irish Mike
>
> > Any state that fires a misslile from a helicopter in the middle of a ci=
ty
> > to "execute" a terrorist leader, killing inocent civilians alongside is=
a
> > terrorist state.
> > Because of it I have no respect for the state of Israel nor I will regr=
et
> > any fate they suffer.
>
> If the enemy is hiding behind civilians, as Hamas does, and is shooting a=
t
> you, you return fire. =A0You want to get pissed about some one killing
> civilians? =A0Start with Hamas who uses them as human shields. =A0If Hama=
s
> didn't fight from civilian houses, Israel wouldn't bomb civilian houses.
>
>
>
> > They have all the power there, all the help from the USA, all the
> > recources, not the Palestinians. It was their responsability to achieve
> > peace and it was a task they were unable to fullfil during the last 60
> > years. Shame on them.
>
> It is not Israel's "responsibility" to achieve peace. =A0How do you "achi=
eve
> peace with a fanatic, hate-obsessed islamic enemy who says there can neve=
r
> be peace and who has sworn to destroy your country and slaughter every
> Jewish man, woman and child? =A0Hamas has broken every agreement, truce a=
nd
> cease-fire that it ever signed with Israel. =A0Israel gave them Gaza to
> achieve peace. =A0Hamas rejected peace and chose, instead, to hide behind
> civilians in Gaza neighborhoods to fire rockets in to Israeli cities and
> towns. =A0You refuse to accept the dundamental fact that Hamas are fanati=
cs.
> They need a war with Israel to justify their existence and to keep their
> power. =A0If Hamas wanted peace with Israel they could have it tomorrow. =
=A0All
> they have to do is stop killing Jews on Israeli soil. =A0Israel built a
> security wall to keep islamic suicide bombers and terrorists out of their
> country. =A0Islamic terrorists climb over the wall because they want to g=
et in
> to Israel to kill Jews.
>
> Irish Mike

Hitler must be your hero.


  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 00:09:26
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:32:01 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>> It is not Israel's "responsibility" to achieve peace.  How do you "achieve
>> peace with a fanatic, hate-obsessed islamic enemy who says there can never
>> be peace and who has sworn to destroy your country and slaughter every
>> Jewish man, woman and child?  Hamas has broken every agreement, truce and
>> cease-fire that it ever signed with Israel.  Israel gave them Gaza to
>> achieve peace.  Hamas rejected peace and chose, instead, to hide behind
>> civilians in Gaza neighborhoods to fire rockets in to Israeli cities and
>> towns.  You refuse to accept the dundamental fact that Hamas are fanatics.
>> They need a war with Israel to justify their existence and to keep their
>> power.  If Hamas wanted peace with Israel they could have it tomorrow.  All
>> they have to do is stop killing Jews on Israeli soil.  Israel built a
>> security wall to keep islamic suicide bombers and terrorists out of their
>> country.  Islamic terrorists climb over the wall because they want to get in
>> to Israel to kill Jews.
>>
>> Irish Mike
>
>Hitler must be your hero.

Clearly, deductive reasoning isn't your strong suit.


  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 02:13:40
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Fan" <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:759270fc-76be-4d0f-9dab-f90c872207f9@m22g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 15, 9:22 pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>
> news:gko3nv$6kp$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> >news:W1Mbl.2088$%54.1927@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> >> "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
> >>news:gko0pv$t1g$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> >>> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>
> >>>> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a
> >>>> bit
> >>>> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> >>>> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> >>>> itself yet again.
>
> >>> Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
> >>> terrorist state.
>
> >>> And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
> >>> organisations.
> >>> Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and
> >>> who
> >>> is the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>
> >> Israel is completely surrounded and out numbered 500 to 1 by muslims
> >> who
> >> have sworn to destroy it and slaughter all the Jews. Muslims who
> >> constantly
> >> call for their followers to murder Israeli men, women and children by
> >> any
> >> means possible, including suicide bombing. And they tell these
> >> followers
> >> that if they die murdering Jews they will go to heaven and have 72
> >> virgins.
> >> The muslims worked with Hitler in WWII to murder Jews. The muslims
> >> launched the "six day war" against
> >> Israel in the 1960s. They've sent hundreds of terrorists and suicide
> >> bombers to murder Israeli
> >> women and children. They attacked and murdered Israeli athletes at the
> >> Olympics.
> >> Israel offered them their own country at the Camp David meetings in the
> >> 1990s. They rejected the offer and chose to send in more
> >> terrorists and suicide bombers. Hezbollah crossed the border from
> >> Lebanon
> >> in to Israel and attacked, killed and kidnapped Israeli citizens. The
> >> Israelis
> >> pulled their people out of Gaza and gave it to the Palestinians to
> >> promote
> >> peace. Hamas rejected peace and used Gaza as a base to fire thousands
> >> of
> >> rockets in to Israeli cities and towns. Both Hamas and Hezbollah have
> >> repeatedly vowed to destroy Israel and murder all the Jews. Iran is
> >> developing nuclear weapons and their leader has repeatedly said there
> >> can
> >> never be peace with Israel. He has repeatedly and publicly vowed to
> >> destroy Israel and drive all of the Jews in to the sea.
> >> America just elected an ultra liberal, retreat-and-surrender commander
> >> in
> >> chief who spent 20 years attending a church that preached anti-Semitic
> >> ideology. Then lied about it.
>
> >> So put yourself in Israel's shoes for a minute. If you were surrounded
> >> and
> >> greatly out numbered by an enemy who says there can never be peace
> >> between
> >> you. Who has repeatedly vowed to destroy your country and slaughter
> >> every
> >> man, woman and child. Who has attacked your citizens repeatedly on your
> >> own
> >> soil with suicide bombers. Who has launched a war of invasion against
> >> you.
> >> And has fired thousands of rockets in to your towns and cities. And now
> >> this enemy is on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. And your
> >> main
> >> ally just elected a weak, inexperienced leader who says he's going to
> >> cut
> >> and run out of the area as soon as he can. What would you do?
>
> >> Irish Mike
>
> > Any state that fires a misslile from a helicopter in the middle of a
> > city
> > to "execute" a terrorist leader, killing inocent civilians alongside is
> > a
> > terrorist state.
> > Because of it I have no respect for the state of Israel nor I will
> > regret
> > any fate they suffer.
>
> If the enemy is hiding behind civilians, as Hamas does, and is shooting at
> you, you return fire. You want to get pissed about some one killing
> civilians? Start with Hamas who uses them as human shields. If Hamas
> didn't fight from civilian houses, Israel wouldn't bomb civilian houses.
>
>
>
> > They have all the power there, all the help from the USA, all the
> > recources, not the Palestinians. It was their responsability to achieve
> > peace and it was a task they were unable to fullfil during the last 60
> > years. Shame on them.
>
> It is not Israel's "responsibility" to achieve peace. How do you "achieve
> peace with a fanatic, hate-obsessed islamic enemy who says there can never
> be peace and who has sworn to destroy your country and slaughter every
> Jewish man, woman and child? Hamas has broken every agreement, truce and
> cease-fire that it ever signed with Israel. Israel gave them Gaza to
> achieve peace. Hamas rejected peace and chose, instead, to hide behind
> civilians in Gaza neighborhoods to fire rockets in to Israeli cities and
> towns. You refuse to accept the dundamental fact that Hamas are fanatics.
> They need a war with Israel to justify their existence and to keep their
> power. If Hamas wanted peace with Israel they could have it tomorrow. All
> they have to do is stop killing Jews on Israeli soil. Israel built a
> security wall to keep islamic suicide bombers and terrorists out of their
> country. Islamic terrorists climb over the wall because they want to get
> in
> to Israel to kill Jews.
>
> Irish Mike

Hitler must be your hero.

Newsflash bucko. The Jews were not the Nazis. The Jews (about 6,000,000 of
them) were the ones being exterminated by the Nazis. I know these facts can
be confusing so maybe you should try writing yourself some post-it notes.
BTW, did it sting when you had that swastika tattooed on your ass?

Irish Mike




 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 22:30:57
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 15, 8:18=A0pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>
> > That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
> > thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> > any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> > itself yet again.
>
> The only shame Israel suffered was waiting so long to retaliate against
> Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired in to Israeli cities and
> towns. =A0Hamas are lying, terrorist murderers who hide behind civilians
> because they've never had the balls for a stand-up fight with the Israeli=
s.
> Now that Hamas is getting its ass kicked it suddently wants to negotiate =
a
> cease fire. =A0Israel will, once again, cave in to international pressure=
and
> agree. =A0Hamas will honor the cease fire just long enough to get in a fr=
esh
> supply of rockets and guns from Iran and Syria. =A0As soon as Hasas gets
> reloaded they'll go back in to Gaza neighborhoods, grab more human shield=
s
> to hide behind, and start firing rockets in to Israel again.
>
> Irish Mike

If the Jew Nazis are justified then so were the German Nazis.
No more holoshit garbage, please.


  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 11:03:49
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:30:57 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 15, 8:18 pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>>
>> > That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
>> > thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
>> > any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
>> > itself yet again.
>>
>> The only shame Israel suffered was waiting so long to retaliate against
>> Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired in to Israeli cities and
>> towns.  Hamas are lying, terrorist murderers who hide behind civilians
>> because they've never had the balls for a stand-up fight with the Israelis.
>> Now that Hamas is getting its ass kicked it suddently wants to negotiate a
>> cease fire.  Israel will, once again, cave in to international pressure and
>> agree.  Hamas will honor the cease fire just long enough to get in a fresh
>> supply of rockets and guns from Iran and Syria.  As soon as Hasas gets
>> reloaded they'll go back in to Gaza neighborhoods, grab more human shields
>> to hide behind, and start firing rockets in to Israel again.
>>
>> Irish Mike
>
>If the Jew Nazis are justified then so were the German Nazis.
>No more holoshit garbage, please.


a lot of people after seeing this are in fact wishing that Adolf had
finished the job.


   
Date: 16 Jan 2009 15:12:30
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote in message
news:dbq0n49di7ho3u4iftalqrhhlff3803ufg@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:30:57 -0800 (PST), Fan
> <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 15, 8:18 pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>>>
>>> > That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
>>> > thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
>>> > any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
>>> > itself yet again.
>>>
>>> The only shame Israel suffered was waiting so long to retaliate against
>>> Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired in to Israeli cities and
>>> towns. Hamas are lying, terrorist murderers who hide behind civilians
>>> because they've never had the balls for a stand-up fight with the
>>> Israelis.
>>> Now that Hamas is getting its ass kicked it suddently wants to negotiate
>>> a
>>> cease fire. Israel will, once again, cave in to international pressure
>>> and
>>> agree. Hamas will honor the cease fire just long enough to get in a
>>> fresh
>>> supply of rockets and guns from Iran and Syria. As soon as Hasas gets
>>> reloaded they'll go back in to Gaza neighborhoods, grab more human
>>> shields
>>> to hide behind, and start firing rockets in to Israel again.
>>>
>>> Irish Mike
>>
>>If the Jew Nazis are justified then so were the German Nazis.
>>No more holoshit garbage, please.
>
>
> a lot of people after seeing this are in fact wishing that Adolf had
> finished the job.

Bucko, you are one sick puppy.

Irish Mike




    
Date: 16 Jan 2009 20:34:41
From: Neverchop
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:sQ5cl.212$Lr6.77@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:dbq0n49di7ho3u4iftalqrhhlff3803ufg@4ax.com...
> >
> > a lot of people after seeing this are in fact wishing that Adolf had
> > finished the job.
>
> Bucko, you are one sick puppy.
>
> Irish Mike
>

Don't take this the wrong way but I'd like to see either you or Popinjay
argue the world would be a worse place if o'l daves momma had of aborted his
sorry fetus. Or adolf's for that matter.




  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 23:59:27
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:30:57 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>If the Jew Nazis are justified then so were the German Nazis.
>No more holoshit garbage, please.

The Jews were firing rockets at the Germans? Do you have a link?


  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 02:06:41
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Fan" <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:90686dfa-0174-4263-9923-969c75aef82e@y1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 15, 8:18 pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "Wayne" <waynet...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>
> > That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
> > thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> > any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> > itself yet again.
>
> The only shame Israel suffered was waiting so long to retaliate against
> Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired in to Israeli cities and
> towns. Hamas are lying, terrorist murderers who hide behind civilians
> because they've never had the balls for a stand-up fight with the
> Israelis.
> Now that Hamas is getting its ass kicked it suddently wants to negotiate a
> cease fire. Israel will, once again, cave in to international pressure and
> agree. Hamas will honor the cease fire just long enough to get in a fresh
> supply of rockets and guns from Iran and Syria. As soon as Hasas gets
> reloaded they'll go back in to Gaza neighborhoods, grab more human shields
> to hide behind, and start firing rockets in to Israel again.
>
> Irish Mike

If the Jew Nazis are justified then so were the German Nazis.
No more holoshit garbage, please.

"Jew Nazis"? You do realize you're seriously nuts, don't you?

Irish Mike




 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 22:28:01
From: Fan
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 15, 7:43=A0pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>
> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> itself yet again.

That is Jew Nazis for you. They would have us believe that only
antisemites object to the murder of helpless men, women and children,
mostly children.


  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 02:04:37
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Fan" <TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:8519df9f-e1bf-4dc5-9d2e-6f7f556c3b8b@v5g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 15, 7:43 pm, Wayne <waynet...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article552192...
>
> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> itself yet again.

That is Jew Nazis for you. They would have us believe that only
antisemites object to the murder of helpless men, women and children,
mostly children.

Are you nuts? You're seriously going to try and defend the actions of a
bunch of Hamas terrorists and suicide bombers ? Are you trying to say that
the Israeli women and children they murdered deserved to die because they
were Israelis? Hamas uses human shields and they fire rockets in to Israel
from civilian neighborhoods. After reading your posts, I don't think you
give a shit about any civilian casualties. You just hate Jews - period.

Irish Mike




 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 14:50:20
From: OrangeSFO
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Jan 15, 11:22=A0am, "Irish Reich" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:



> Israel is completely surrounded and out numbered 500 to 1 by muslims who
> have sworn to destroy it and slaughter all the Jews.



You're such a drama queen...



 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 20:21:18
From: Hg
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus'

A friend told me in the future when all the oil is finished in the mid east he
believes America's support for Israel will fade. I think the opposite will
happen, and America's support will grow stronger.
Don't think anybody really knows. A good question, though.


--
,/ \,
((___,---"""""---,___))
`-----)~ ~(-----`
'( \ / )'


 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 17:14:38
From:
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On 15 ene, 17:18, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> [snip the usual profound reflections]

I'll make you a bit glad, Mike.

There's one guy that must be scratching his itchings over this matter
-- Obama.
His relative silence about this plain carnage doesn't seem congruent
with his role.


 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 12:12:34
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On 15 Jan, 19:44, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr > wrote:

> The UN should have expelled all Arabs from from their homes from the present
> day controled Israel. It would have been less unfair than decades of
> hardship they and their posterites later had to suffer.
> I wonder who was the fool, or mastermind who drew map like this?http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/UN_Partition_Plan_...
>
> It was cleary done in a way to have on-going conflict there.-

I don't think that the UN Partition Plan was deliberately designed to
start a war between the two sides but you are right that it was
completely unworkable and just an absurd idea. Even if the
Palestinians had accepted the plan, war would still have been
inevitable at some point down the line because the Palestinians would
always have resented the fact that the UN gave so much land to the
Jews (who were only 1/3 of the population at the time) and the Zionsts
would never have accepted anything less than a Jewish state in all of
Palestine (not just one part of it):

http://www.cactus48.com/partition.html

Were the Zionists prepared to settle for the territory granted in the
1947 partition?

"While the Yishuv's leadership formally accepted the 1947 Partition
Resolution, large sections of Israel's society - including...Ben-
Gurion - were opposed to or extremely unhappy with partition and from
early on viewed the war as an ideal opportunity to expand the new
state's borders beyond the UN earmarked partition boundaries and at
the expense of the Palestinians." Israeli historian, Benny Morris, in
"Tikkun", March/April 1998.

Public vs private pronouncements on this question.

"In internal discussion in 1938 [David Ben-Gurion] stated that 'after
we become a strong force, as a result of the creation of a state, we
shall abolish partition and expand into the whole of Palestine'...In
1948, Menachem Begin declared that: 'The partition of the Homeland is
illegal. It will never be recognized. The signature of institutions
and individuals of the partition agreement is invalid. It will not
bind the Jewish people. Jerusalem was and will forever be our capital.
Eretz Israel (the land of Israel) will be restored to the people of
Israel, All of it. And forever." Noam Chomsky, "The Fateful Triangle."



 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 14:18:30
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521925.ece
>
> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> itself yet again.

The only shame Israel suffered was waiting so long to retaliate against
Hamas for the thousands of rockets they fired in to Israeli cities and
towns. Hamas are lying, terrorist murderers who hide behind civilians
because they've never had the balls for a stand-up fight with the Israelis.
Now that Hamas is getting its ass kicked it suddently wants to negotiate a
cease fire. Israel will, once again, cave in to international pressure and
agree. Hamas will honor the cease fire just long enough to get in a fresh
supply of rockets and guns from Iran and Syria. As soon as Hasas gets
reloaded they'll go back in to Gaza neighborhoods, grab more human shields
to hide behind, and start firing rockets in to Israel again.

Irish Mike




 
Date: 15 Jan 2009 19:54:45
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521925.ece
>
> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
> itself yet again.


Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
terrorist state.

And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
organisations.
Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and who is
the biggest obstacle in that direction.




  
Date: 16 Jan 2009 00:00:01
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:54:45 +0100, "*skriptis"
<skriptis@post.t-com.hr > wrote:

>Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
>terrorist state.
>
>And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
>organisations.
>Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and who is
>the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>

It's amazing what some people try to pass off as logic on Usenet.


  
Date: 15 Jan 2009 14:22:26
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr > wrote in message
news:gko0pv$t1g$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> "Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521925.ece
>>
>> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
>> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
>> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
>> itself yet again.
>
>
> Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
> terrorist state.
>
> And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
> organisations.
> Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and who is
> the biggest obstacle in that direction.

Israel is completely surrounded and out numbered 500 to 1 by muslims who
have sworn to destroy it and slaughter all the Jews. Muslims who constantly
call for their followers to murder Israeli men, women and children by any
means possible, including suicide bombing. And they tell these followers
that if they die murdering Jews they will go to heaven and have 72 virgins.
The muslims worked with Hitler in WWII to murder Jews. The muslims launched
the "six day war" against
Israel in the 1960s. They've sent hundreds of terrorists and suicide
bombers to murder Israeli
women and children. They attacked and murdered Israeli athletes at the
Olympics.
Israel offered them their own country at the Camp David meetings in the
1990s. They rejected the offer and chose to send in more
terrorists and suicide bombers. Hezbollah crossed the border from Lebanon
in to Israel and attacked, killed and kidnapped Israeli citizens. The
Israelis
pulled their people out of Gaza and gave it to the Palestinians to promote
peace. Hamas rejected peace and used Gaza as a base to fire thousands of
rockets in to Israeli cities and towns. Both Hamas and Hezbollah have
repeatedly vowed to destroy Israel and murder all the Jews. Iran is
developing nuclear weapons and their leader has repeatedly said there can
never be peace with Israel. He has repeatedly and publicly vowed to destroy
Israel and drive all of the Jews in to the sea.
America just elected an ultra liberal, retreat-and-surrender commander in
chief who spent 20 years attending a church that preached anti-Semitic
ideology. Then lied about it.

So put yourself in Israel's shoes for a minute. If you were surrounded and
greatly out numbered by an enemy who says there can never be peace between
you. Who has repeatedly vowed to destroy your country and slaughter every
man, woman and child. Who has attacked your citizens repeatedly on your own
soil with suicide bombers. Who has launched a war of invasion against you.
And has fired thousands of rockets in to your towns and cities. And now
this enemy is on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. And your main
ally just elected a weak, inexperienced leader who says he's going to cut
and run out of the area as soon as he can. What would you do?

Irish Mike





   
Date: 15 Jan 2009 20:44:54
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:W1Mbl.2088$%54.1927@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> "*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
> news:gko0pv$t1g$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>>
>> "Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521925.ece
>>>
>>> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
>>> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
>>> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
>>> itself yet again.
>>
>>
>> Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
>> terrorist state.
>>
>> And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
>> organisations.
>> Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and who
>> is the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>
> Israel is completely surrounded and out numbered 500 to 1 by muslims who
> have sworn to destroy it and slaughter all the Jews. Muslims who
> constantly
> call for their followers to murder Israeli men, women and children by any
> means possible, including suicide bombing. And they tell these followers
> that if they die murdering Jews they will go to heaven and have 72
> virgins.
> The muslims worked with Hitler in WWII to murder Jews. The muslims
> launched the "six day war" against
> Israel in the 1960s. They've sent hundreds of terrorists and suicide
> bombers to murder Israeli
> women and children. They attacked and murdered Israeli athletes at the
> Olympics.
> Israel offered them their own country at the Camp David meetings in the
> 1990s. They rejected the offer and chose to send in more
> terrorists and suicide bombers. Hezbollah crossed the border from Lebanon
> in to Israel and attacked, killed and kidnapped Israeli citizens. The
> Israelis
> pulled their people out of Gaza and gave it to the Palestinians to promote
> peace. Hamas rejected peace and used Gaza as a base to fire thousands of
> rockets in to Israeli cities and towns. Both Hamas and Hezbollah have
> repeatedly vowed to destroy Israel and murder all the Jews. Iran is
> developing nuclear weapons and their leader has repeatedly said there can
> never be peace with Israel. He has repeatedly and publicly vowed to
> destroy Israel and drive all of the Jews in to the sea.
> America just elected an ultra liberal, retreat-and-surrender commander in
> chief who spent 20 years attending a church that preached anti-Semitic
> ideology. Then lied about it.
>
> So put yourself in Israel's shoes for a minute. If you were surrounded
> and
> greatly out numbered by an enemy who says there can never be peace between
> you. Who has repeatedly vowed to destroy your country and slaughter every
> man, woman and child. Who has attacked your citizens repeatedly on your
> own
> soil with suicide bombers. Who has launched a war of invasion against
> you.
> And has fired thousands of rockets in to your towns and cities. And now
> this enemy is on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. And your main
> ally just elected a weak, inexperienced leader who says he's going to cut
> and run out of the area as soon as he can. What would you do?
>
> Irish Mike


Any state that fires a misslile from a helicopter in the middle of a city to
"execute" a terrorist leader, killing inocent civilians alongside is a
terrorist state.
Because of it I have no respect for the state of Israel nor I will regret
any fate they suffer.

They have all the power there, all the help from the USA, all the recources,
not the Palestinians. It was their responsability to achieve peace and it
was a task they were unable to fullfil during the last 60 years. Shame on
them.


The UN should have expelled all Arabs from from their homes from the present
day controled Israel. It would have been less unfair than decades of
hardship they and their posterites later had to suffer.
I wonder who was the fool, or mastermind who drew map like this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/UN_Partition_Plan_For_Palestine_1947.png


It was cleary done in a way to have on-going conflict there.




    
Date: 16 Jan 2009 00:05:45
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:44:54 +0100, "*skriptis"
<skriptis@post.t-com.hr > wrote:

>Because of it I have no respect for the state of Israel nor I will regret
>any fate they suffer.
>
>They have all the power there, all the help from the USA, all the recources,
>not the Palestinians. It was their responsability to achieve peace and it
>was a task they were unable to fullfil during the last 60 years. Shame on
>them.

How, pray tell, do you figure that it's Israel's responsibility to
achieve peace with a bloc who has no interest in making peace? Quick
quiz: Between 1) Israel and 2) the surrounding Muslim states, which
is devoted to the destruction of the other?


    
Date: 15 Jan 2009 15:22:26
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells

"*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr > wrote in message
news:gko3nv$6kp$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:W1Mbl.2088$%54.1927@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>> "*skriptis" <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote in message
>> news:gko0pv$t1g$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>>>
>>> "Wayne" <waynetv50@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6e5d0388-e9d1-41c9-b1ad-f6a59ff00d9c@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5521925.ece
>>>>
>>>> That "Hamas using human shields" explanation might start to wear a bit
>>>> thin after a while. And even if it was true in this case, was there
>>>> any need use the white phosphorus shells as well? Israel has shamed
>>>> itself yet again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hamas is a terrorist organisation, but Israel has turned itself into
>>> terrorist state.
>>>
>>> And states are much more powerful and more dangerous than some
>>> organisations.
>>> Therefore it's clear what it needs to be done to achieve peace, and who
>>> is the biggest obstacle in that direction.
>>
>> Israel is completely surrounded and out numbered 500 to 1 by muslims who
>> have sworn to destroy it and slaughter all the Jews. Muslims who
>> constantly
>> call for their followers to murder Israeli men, women and children by any
>> means possible, including suicide bombing. And they tell these followers
>> that if they die murdering Jews they will go to heaven and have 72
>> virgins.
>> The muslims worked with Hitler in WWII to murder Jews. The muslims
>> launched the "six day war" against
>> Israel in the 1960s. They've sent hundreds of terrorists and suicide
>> bombers to murder Israeli
>> women and children. They attacked and murdered Israeli athletes at the
>> Olympics.
>> Israel offered them their own country at the Camp David meetings in the
>> 1990s. They rejected the offer and chose to send in more
>> terrorists and suicide bombers. Hezbollah crossed the border from
>> Lebanon
>> in to Israel and attacked, killed and kidnapped Israeli citizens. The
>> Israelis
>> pulled their people out of Gaza and gave it to the Palestinians to
>> promote
>> peace. Hamas rejected peace and used Gaza as a base to fire thousands of
>> rockets in to Israeli cities and towns. Both Hamas and Hezbollah have
>> repeatedly vowed to destroy Israel and murder all the Jews. Iran is
>> developing nuclear weapons and their leader has repeatedly said there can
>> never be peace with Israel. He has repeatedly and publicly vowed to
>> destroy Israel and drive all of the Jews in to the sea.
>> America just elected an ultra liberal, retreat-and-surrender commander in
>> chief who spent 20 years attending a church that preached anti-Semitic
>> ideology. Then lied about it.
>>
>> So put yourself in Israel's shoes for a minute. If you were surrounded
>> and
>> greatly out numbered by an enemy who says there can never be peace
>> between
>> you. Who has repeatedly vowed to destroy your country and slaughter
>> every
>> man, woman and child. Who has attacked your citizens repeatedly on your
>> own
>> soil with suicide bombers. Who has launched a war of invasion against
>> you.
>> And has fired thousands of rockets in to your towns and cities. And now
>> this enemy is on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. And your main
>> ally just elected a weak, inexperienced leader who says he's going to cut
>> and run out of the area as soon as he can. What would you do?
>>
>> Irish Mike
>
>
> Any state that fires a misslile from a helicopter in the middle of a city
> to "execute" a terrorist leader, killing inocent civilians alongside is a
> terrorist state.
> Because of it I have no respect for the state of Israel nor I will regret
> any fate they suffer.

If the enemy is hiding behind civilians, as Hamas does, and is shooting at
you, you return fire. You want to get pissed about some one killing
civilians? Start with Hamas who uses them as human shields. If Hamas
didn't fight from civilian houses, Israel wouldn't bomb civilian houses.
>
> They have all the power there, all the help from the USA, all the
> recources, not the Palestinians. It was their responsability to achieve
> peace and it was a task they were unable to fullfil during the last 60
> years. Shame on them.
>

It is not Israel's "responsibility" to achieve peace. How do you "achieve
peace with a fanatic, hate-obsessed islamic enemy who says there can never
be peace and who has sworn to destroy your country and slaughter every
Jewish man, woman and child? Hamas has broken every agreement, truce and
cease-fire that it ever signed with Israel. Israel gave them Gaza to
achieve peace. Hamas rejected peace and chose, instead, to hide behind
civilians in Gaza neighborhoods to fire rockets in to Israeli cities and
towns. You refuse to accept the dundamental fact that Hamas are fanatics.
They need a war with Israel to justify their existence and to keep their
power. If Hamas wanted peace with Israel they could have it tomorrow. All
they have to do is stop killing Jews on Israeli soil. Israel built a
security wall to keep islamic suicide bombers and terrorists out of their
country. Islamic terrorists climb over the wall because they want to get in
to Israel to kill Jews.

Irish Mike