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Date: 28 Jan 2009 04:06:50
From: Fan
Subject: What if Verdasco takes it all?
Who will hate him more?
Federer fans?
Nadal fans?
Murray fans?
Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?




 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 11:54=A0am, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before =
its
> >>>>> over?
> >>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
> >>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so =
I
> >>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consist=
ent,
> >>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
> >>>> PS.
> >>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
> >> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>
> > I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
> > play his best tennis ever this year.
>
> > Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
> > you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
> > are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
> > Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>
> > And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
> > sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
> > when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
> > extra-potent weed or what?
>
> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nadal
> at AO semi.
>
> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before FO
> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after the
> final...lol.

That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 19:19:05
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Jan 28, 11:54†am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> >> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>> >>>>> over?
>> >>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
>> >>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
>> >>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
>> >>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>> >>>> PS.
>> >>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
>> >> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>>
>> > I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
>> > play his best tennis ever this year.
>>
>> > Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
>> > you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
>> > are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
>> > Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>>
>> > And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
>> > sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
>> > when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
>> > extra-potent weed or what?
>>
>> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nadal
>> at AO semi.
>>
>> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before FO
>> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
>> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
>> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after the
>> final...lol.
>
>That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
>that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
>could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
>for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
>Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
>should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?

I get Eurosport with Finnish commentary at home, and with British
commentary at work. I have been a lot at work during this tournament,
and I have quite liked Wilander's commentary. Most of the time he
knows what he is talking about. I haven't really heard what exactly he
said about Fed's and Rafa's chances before the tournament. I can't
believe he wrote them off.




   
Date: 29 Jan 2009 09:32:51
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 28, 11:54 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>>>>>>>> over?
>>>>>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
>>>>>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
>>>>>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
>>>>>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>>>>>>> PS.
>>>>>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
>>>>> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>>>> I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
>>>> play his best tennis ever this year.
>>>> Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
>>>> you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
>>>> are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
>>>> Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>>>> And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
>>>> sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
>>>> when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
>>>> extra-potent weed or what?
>>> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nadal
>>> at AO semi.
>>>
>>> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before FO
>>> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
>>> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
>>> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after the
>>> final...lol.
>> That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
>> that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
>> could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
>> for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
>> Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
>> should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?
>
> I get Eurosport with Finnish commentary at home, and with British
> commentary at work. I have been a lot at work during this tournament,
> and I have quite liked Wilander's commentary. Most of the time he
> knows what he is talking about. I haven't really heard what exactly he
> said about Fed's and Rafa's chances before the tournament. I can't
> believe he wrote them off.
>
>


I know how Wilander feels. 99.97% of my analysis is spot on, but my
naysayers focus on the tiny bits I get wrong or are taken out of context
- childish behavior.





   
Date: 28 Jan 2009 21:28:26
From: TT
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
Sakari Lund wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 28, 11:54 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>>>>>>>> over?
>>>>>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
>>>>>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
>>>>>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
>>>>>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>>>>>>> PS.
>>>>>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
>>>>> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>>>> I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
>>>> play his best tennis ever this year.
>>>> Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
>>>> you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
>>>> are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
>>>> Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>>>> And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
>>>> sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
>>>> when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
>>>> extra-potent weed or what?
>>> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nadal
>>> at AO semi.
>>>
>>> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before FO
>>> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
>>> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
>>> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after the
>>> final...lol.
>> That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
>> that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
>> could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
>> for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
>> Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
>> should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?
>
> I get Eurosport with Finnish commentary at home, and with British
> commentary at work.

I'd like to know why it's with English commentary and how can I fix my
commentary being Scandinavian languages only. I'd choose Wilander any
day over Hedman commentary.

So the question would be how to get rid of "dubbed" audio and getting
original instead...My digibox doesn't seem to have options for that.
Maybe you could ask someone at your work how come you get undubbed?

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


    
Date: 29 Jan 2009 15:37:43
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:28:26 +0200, TT <gold@Olympics.org > wrote:

>Sakari Lund wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 11:54 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>>>>>>>>> over?
>>>>>>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
>>>>>>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
>>>>>>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
>>>>>>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>>>>>>>> PS.
>>>>>>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
>>>>>> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>>>>> I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
>>>>> play his best tennis ever this year.
>>>>> Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
>>>>> you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
>>>>> are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
>>>>> Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>>>>> And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
>>>>> sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
>>>>> when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
>>>>> extra-potent weed or what?
>>>> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nadal
>>>> at AO semi.
>>>>
>>>> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before FO
>>>> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
>>>> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
>>>> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after the
>>>> final...lol.
>>> That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
>>> that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
>>> could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
>>> for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
>>> Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
>>> should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?
>>
>> I get Eurosport with Finnish commentary at home, and with British
>> commentary at work.
>
>I'd like to know why it's with English commentary and how can I fix my
>commentary being Scandinavian languages only. I'd choose Wilander any
>day over Hedman commentary.
>
>So the question would be how to get rid of "dubbed" audio and getting
>original instead...My digibox doesn't seem to have options for that.
>Maybe you could ask someone at your work how come you get undubbed?

It is the old analog channel. Remember I am at YLE. I don't think you
can get it with British commentary at home. I don't at least.




   
Date: 28 Jan 2009 19:19:53
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:19:05 +0200, Sakari Lund
<sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com
>wrote:
>
>>On Jan 28, 11:54†am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> > On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>> >> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>>> >>>>> over?
>>> >>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
>>> >>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
>>> >>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
>>> >>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>>> >>>> PS.
>>> >>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
>>> >> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>>>
>>> > I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
>>> > play his best tennis ever this year.
>>>
>>> > Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
>>> > you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
>>> > are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
>>> > Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>>>
>>> > And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
>>> > sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
>>> > when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
>>> > extra-potent weed or what?
>>>
>>> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nadal
>>> at AO semi.
>>>
>>> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before FO
>>> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
>>> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
>>> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after the
>>> final...lol.
>>
>>That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
>>that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
>>could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
>>for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
>>Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
>>should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?
>
>I get Eurosport with Finnish commentary at home, and with British
>commentary at work. I have been a lot at work during this tournament,
>and I have quite liked Wilander's commentary. Most of the time he
>knows what he is talking about. I haven't really heard what exactly he
>said about Fed's and Rafa's chances before the tournament. I can't
>believe he wrote them off.

I don't believe is probably a better way to put it...



 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 08:43:39
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 11:29=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before it=
s
> >>> over?
> >> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
> >> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
> >> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consisten=
t,
> >> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>
> >> PS.
>
> > Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
>
> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?

I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
play his best tennis ever this year.

Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.

And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
extra-potent weed or what?


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:26:41
From: Javier Gonzalez
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 11:29†am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>> >>> over?
>> >> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
>> >> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
>> >> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
>> >> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>>
>> >> PS.
>>
>> > Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
>>
>> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>
> I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
> play his best tennis ever this year.

Stefanki is good at bringing discipline to unruly players. Tolerates no
bullshit. De la Pena was completely frustrated when he parted with Fernando
Gonzalez because he felt Gonzo was overusing the FH and not being patient
enough. Enter Stefanki, and a few months later you have Gonzo actually waiting
for the proper moment for the FH and in the final of the AO. (afterwards he
went overboard and became too cautious, tho...)

> Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
> you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
> are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
> Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.

I'll go even and say that the best players will NOT be the best coaches.
Imagine you get, say, Sampras as coach. Is he going to teach you his serve?
You'll probably end up with Sampras frustrated saying "just like this: *boom*"
while you look in befuddlement. Or Nadal as coach. "Ok, do it again, but
faster... faster...". You can't teach talent and/or physical/genetic traits.

I'd love to see what Santoro will be like as a coach. He is very wily and
makes up his lack of strength with good strategy/tactics/smarts, and those can
be taught.

> And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
> sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
> when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
> extra-potent weed or what?

:D


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 18:54:55
From: TT
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>>>>> over?
>>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
>>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
>>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
>>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>>>> PS.
>>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
>> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>
> I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
> play his best tennis ever this year.
>
> Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
> you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
> are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
> Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>
> And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
> sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
> when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
> extra-potent weed or what?

Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nadal
at AO semi.

...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before FO
final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after the
final...lol.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 08:11:14
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 8:00=A0am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
> > How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
> > over?
>
> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>
> PS.

Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.


  
Date: 29 Jan 2009 03:29:54
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>>> over?
>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>>
>> PS.
>
> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.


Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?



 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 04:54:36
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 7:28=A0am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Fan wrote:
> > Who will hate him more?
> > Federer fans?
> > Nadal fans?
> > Murray fans?
> > Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?
>
> Well, I would love it. I think he plays excellent tennis. He is a bit
> different from the rest of the Spaniards. His forehand is probably one
> of the most elegant on the tour. He has a great (unstable though) serve,
> great return and plays smart and controlled. One of the flaws in his
> game is his net game which he probably has to improve to win the biggest
> matches.
>
> I don't think he will win it though, but if he does he has obviously
> beaten both Nadal and Federer (probably) on this surface. And then it is
> well deserved of course. What category of fans who would dislike it
> most? It probably would be Federer's, because he is the one who is
> beaten in the final.
>
> PS.

How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
over?


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 16:11:03
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 6:42=A0pm, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net > wrote:

> Guess the infamous Roddick and Federer career analyses are just 0.03% of
> Whisp's oeuvre. Of course, he claims that he was spot on there too.


Sure! Steroids would have reduced Sampras to a one-slam wonder.


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:39:38
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 5:32=A0pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Sakari Lund wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> >> On Jan 28, 11:54 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrot=
e:
> >>>>>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this befo=
re its
> >>>>>>>> over?
> >>>>>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
> >>>>>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, =
so I
> >>>>>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and cons=
istent,
> >>>>>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
> >>>>>>> PS.
> >>>>>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot=
.
> >>>>> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
> >>>> I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he c=
an
> >>>> play his best tennis ever this year.
> >>>> Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I kn=
ow
> >>>> you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
> >>>> are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird=
,
> >>>> Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
> >>>> And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
> >>>> sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking abou=
t
> >>>> when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
> >>>> extra-potent weed or what?
> >>> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nada=
l
> >>> at AO semi.
>
> >>> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before=
FO
> >>> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
> >>> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
> >>> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after =
the
> >>> final...lol.
> >> That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
> >> that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
> >> could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
> >> for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
> >> Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
> >> should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?
>
> > I get Eurosport with Finnish commentary at home, and with British
> > commentary at work. I have been a lot at work during this tournament,
> > and I have quite liked Wilander's commentary. Most of the time he
> > knows what he is talking about. I haven't really heard what exactly he
> > said about Fed's and Rafa's chances before the tournament. I can't
> > believe he wrote them off.
>
> I know how Wilander feels. =A099.97% of my analysis is spot on, but my
> naysayers focus on the tiny bits I get wrong or are taken out of context
> - childish behavior.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL. So this ng is *dumber by the day* because so few picked a Nadal-
Fed final, but Wilander's still a genius even though he picked
Djokovic and Tsonga over both of them?

You do know he also picked Fed to beat Rafa at last year's FO final,
right?

If some anonymous poster of ng were making such crazy picks you'd say
he should be frogmarched out of the ng.


   
Date: 28 Jan 2009 23:42:35
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 5:32 pm, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Sakari Lund wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 28, 11:54 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>>>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>>>>>>>>>> over?
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
>>>>>>>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
>>>>>>>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
>>>>>>>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
>>>>>>>>> PS.
>>>>>>>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a shot.
>>>>>>> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>>>>>> I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he can
>>>>>> play his best tennis ever this year.
>>>>>> Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I know
>>>>>> you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
>>>>>> are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bird,
>>>>>> Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>>>>>> And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
>>>>>> sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking about
>>>>>> when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
>>>>>> extra-potent weed or what?
>>>>> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nadal
>>>>> at AO semi.
>>>>> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before FO
>>>>> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
>>>>> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
>>>>> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after the
>>>>> final...lol.
>>>> That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
>>>> that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
>>>> could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
>>>> for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
>>>> Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
>>>> should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?
>>> I get Eurosport with Finnish commentary at home, and with British
>>> commentary at work. I have been a lot at work during this tournament,
>>> and I have quite liked Wilander's commentary. Most of the time he
>>> knows what he is talking about. I haven't really heard what exactly he
>>> said about Fed's and Rafa's chances before the tournament. I can't
>>> believe he wrote them off.
>> I know how Wilander feels. 99.97% of my analysis is spot on, but my
>> naysayers focus on the tiny bits I get wrong or are taken out of context
>> - childish behavior.
>
> LOL. So this ng is *dumber by the day* because so few picked a Nadal-
> Fed final, but Wilander's still a genius even though he picked
> Djokovic and Tsonga over both of them?
>
> You do know he also picked Fed to beat Rafa at last year's FO final,
> right?
>
> If some anonymous poster of ng were making such crazy picks you'd say
> he should be frogmarched out of the ng.

Got to love the claimed accuracy of 99.97% from the Whisp. Not 99.96
which would obviously take him out of Tier I Analyst category nor 99.98
which would be vain and boastful no doubt.

Guess the infamous Roddick and Federer career analyses are just 0.03% of
Whisp's oeuvre. Of course, he claims that he was spot on there too.

--
Cheers,

vc


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 11:24:00
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 2:13=A0pm, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 28, 1:19 pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>> OK, here's the exact quote. Basically what he did was pick the guys
> >>> who did well
> >>> last year. Maybe you don't consider it a total write-off, but
> >>> definitely he didn't sound like he
> >>> liked Fed/Nadal's chances.
> >>> "Those baking courts won=92t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and
> >>> Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
> >>> =93Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It=92s a surface for the
> >>> likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier
> >>> and
> >>> hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it=92s fast
> >>> because it=92s so hot.=94
> >> There seems to be a lot of confusion about this surface in terms of
> >> speed and bounce.
>
> >> It looks to me reasonably slow with a good bounce and takes spin well.
> >> However, last year it was reported to be faster than the old surface
> >> and people were saying it was close to the USO in how it played. Now
> >> Wilander is saying it is fast, but maybe only during the day?
>
> > When I think about it more, the whole statement is bizarre. Does
> > Tsonga take the ball earlier than
> > Fed, who is known for hugging the baseline and jerking the other guy
> > around by taking the ball early.
>
> > Djokovic hits with *no spin*? Take that back, Mats WAS on some
> > seriously potent weed! Give me some of that
> > Mats!
>
> Djokovic does hit quite flat.
>

When he goes for winners. His normal rally shots, especially on the
forehand, have plenty of spin.


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 10:22:34
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 1:19=A0pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > OK, here's the exact quote. Basically what he did was pick the guys
> > who did well
> > last year. Maybe you don't consider it a total write-off, but
> > definitely he didn't sound like he
> > liked Fed/Nadal's chances.
>
> > "Those baking courts won=92t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and
> > Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
> > =93Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It=92s a surface for the
> > likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier
> > and
> > hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it=92s fast
> > because it=92s so hot.=94
>
> There seems to be a lot of confusion about this surface in terms of
> speed and bounce.
>
> It looks to me reasonably slow with a good bounce and takes spin well.
> However, last year it was reported to be faster than the old surface
> and people were saying it was close to the USO in how it played. Now
> Wilander is saying it is fast, but maybe only during the day?

When I think about it more, the whole statement is bizarre. Does
Tsonga take the ball earlier than
Fed, who is known for hugging the baseline and jerking the other guy
around by taking the ball early.

Djokovic hits with *no spin*? Take that back, Mats WAS on some
seriously potent weed! Give me some of that
Mats!


   
Date: 28 Jan 2009 21:13:23
From: TT
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
jasoncatlin1971@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 28, 1:19 pm, gregor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> OK, here's the exact quote. Basically what he did was pick the guys
>>> who did well
>>> last year. Maybe you don't consider it a total write-off, but
>>> definitely he didn't sound like he
>>> liked Fed/Nadal's chances.
>>> "Those baking courts wonít suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and
>>> Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
>>> ďMelbourne is not their favourite surface. Itís a surface for the
>>> likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier
>>> and
>>> hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and itís fast
>>> because itís so hot.Ē
>> There seems to be a lot of confusion about this surface in terms of
>> speed and bounce.
>>
>> It looks to me reasonably slow with a good bounce and takes spin well.
>> However, last year it was reported to be faster than the old surface
>> and people were saying it was close to the USO in how it played. Now
>> Wilander is saying it is fast, but maybe only during the day?
>
> When I think about it more, the whole statement is bizarre. Does
> Tsonga take the ball earlier than
> Fed, who is known for hugging the baseline and jerking the other guy
> around by taking the ball early.
>
> Djokovic hits with *no spin*? Take that back, Mats WAS on some
> seriously potent weed! Give me some of that
> Mats!

Djokovic does hit quite flat.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 10:19:13
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
> OK, here's the exact quote. Basically what he did was pick the guys
> who did well
> last year. Maybe you don't consider it a total write-off, but
> definitely he didn't sound like he
> liked Fed/Nadal's chances.
>
> "Those baking courts won=92t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and
> Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
> =93Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It=92s a surface for the
> likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier
> and
> hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it=92s fast
> because it=92s so hot.=94

There seems to be a lot of confusion about this surface in terms of
speed and bounce.

It looks to me reasonably slow with a good bounce and takes spin well.
However, last year it was reported to be faster than the old surface
and people were saying it was close to the USO in how it played. Now
Wilander is saying it is fast, but maybe only during the day?



  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 09:26:51
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 12:19=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:19:05 +0200, Sakari Lund
>
>
>
>
>
> <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
> >On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Jan 28, 11:54=A0am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> > On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>> >> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> >>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wro=
te:
> >>> >>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> >>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this bef=
ore its
> >>> >>>>> over?
> >>> >>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a bi=
g
> >>> >>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though,=
so I
> >>> >>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and con=
sistent,
> >>> >>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
> >>> >>>> PS.
> >>> >>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a sho=
t.
> >>> >> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>
> >>> > I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he =
can
> >>> > play his best tennis ever this year.
>
> >>> > Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I k=
now
> >>> > you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
> >>> > are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bir=
d,
> >>> > Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>
> >>> > And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
> >>> > sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking abo=
ut
> >>> > when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
> >>> > extra-potent weed or what?
>
> >>> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nada=
l
> >>> at AO semi.
>
> >>> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before=
FO
> >>> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
> >>> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
> >>> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after =
the
> >>> final...lol.
>
> >>That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
> >>that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
> >>could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
> >>for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
> >>Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
> >>should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?
>
> >I get Eurosport with Finnish commentary at home, and with British
> >commentary at work. I have been a lot at work during this tournament,
> >and I have quite liked Wilander's commentary. Most of the time he
> >knows what he is talking about. I haven't really heard what exactly he
> >said about Fed's and Rafa's chances before the tournament. I can't
> >believe he wrote them off.
>
> I don't believe is probably a better way to put it...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


OK, here's the exact quote. Basically what he did was pick the guys
who did well
last year. Maybe you don't consider it a total write-off, but
definitely he didn't sound like he
liked Fed/Nadal's chances.

"Those baking courts won=92t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and
Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
=93Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It=92s a surface for the
likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier
and
hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it=92s fast
because it=92s so hot.=94


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 09:23:53
From:
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 12:19=A0pm, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:19:05 +0200, Sakari Lund
>
>
>
>
>
> <sakari.l...@welho.com> wrote:
> >On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:23 -0800 (PST), jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Jan 28, 11:54=A0am, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
> >>> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> > On Jan 28, 11:29 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>> >> jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> >>> On Jan 28, 8:00 am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wro=
te:
> >>> >>>> vijay.jayachand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> >>>>> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this bef=
ore its
> >>> >>>>> over?
> >>> >>>> Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a bi=
g
> >>> >>>> favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though,=
so I
> >>> >>>> expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and con=
sistent,
> >>> >>>> I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.
> >>> >>>> PS.
> >>> >>> Maybe if Andy can win a couple of tiebreakers he could have a sho=
t.
> >>> >> Maybe if he wins 3 he'll have a chance?
>
> >>> > I think Stefanki is the best coach Roddick's ever had, so maybe he =
can
> >>> > play his best tennis ever this year.
>
> >>> > Sometimes the best players aren't necessarily the best coaches. I k=
now
> >>> > you're in Oz, but the best NBA coaches
> >>> > are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, etc who weren't great players, not Bir=
d,
> >>> > Magic and Jordan. They can't relate to lesser talents.
>
> >>> > And some of these past greats think they know a lot but they end up
> >>> > sounder dumber than most of rst. What the hell was Mats talking abo=
ut
> >>> > when he said the AO courts don't favor Rafa and Fed? He found some
> >>> > extra-potent weed or what?
>
> >>> Wilander impressed me last year predicting that Tsonga will beat Nada=
l
> >>> at AO semi.
>
> >>> ...Unfortunately he blew all that and much more by saying just before=
FO
> >>> final that Federer would win it...That must be one of the worst
> >>> predictions ever considering how Nadal was playing before the final.
> >>> Must have been hopeful thinking. You should have seen his face after =
the
> >>> final...lol.
>
> >>That whole convoluted explanation about the court not taking spin and
> >>that therefore it doesn't favor Fed and Rafa was just ridiculous. I
> >>could see picking someone else like Murray or Djoke to make the final
> >>for sure, but writing off the guys who have won 14 out of the last 15
> >>Slam titles was one of the worst bits of analysis I've heard. Maybe he
> >>should return whatever money he got for his pre-tournament analysis?
>
> >I get Eurosport with Finnish commentary at home, and with British
> >commentary at work. I have been a lot at work during this tournament,
> >and I have quite liked Wilander's commentary. Most of the time he
> >knows what he is talking about. I haven't really heard what exactly he
> >said about Fed's and Rafa's chances before the tournament. I can't
> >believe he wrote them off.
>
> I don't believe is probably a better way to put it...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm sure if there were a follow-up question he wouldn't have
completely written them off, but what he
said was that Fed and Nadal rely much more on spin than Murray and
Djoke and the AO court therefore
does not suit their games.

Someone posted it here earlier. I don't remember verbatim what he said.


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 14:00:22
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
vijay.jayachandran@gmail.com wrote:

> How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
> over?

Yes, I really hope so! It is just that Federer naturally is a big
favorite in that match. Both have been playing very well though, so I
expect an entertaining match. If Andy serves really huge and consistent,
I bet it will be difficult for Roger anyhow.

PS.


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 12:58:36
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:54:36 -0800 (PST), vijay.jayachandran@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Jan 28, 7:28†am, Petter Solbu <pettermann1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Fan wrote:
>> > Who will hate him more?
>> > Federer fans?
>> > Nadal fans?
>> > Murray fans?
>> > Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?
>>
>> Well, I would love it. I think he plays excellent tennis. He is a bit
>> different from the rest of the Spaniards. His forehand is probably one
>> of the most elegant on the tour. He has a great (unstable though) serve,
>> great return and plays smart and controlled. One of the flaws in his
>> game is his net game which he probably has to improve to win the biggest
>> matches.
>>
>> I don't think he will win it though, but if he does he has obviously
>> beaten both Nadal and Federer (probably) on this surface. And then it is
>> well deserved of course. What category of fans who would dislike it
>> most? It probably would be Federer's, because he is the one who is
>> beaten in the final.
>>
>> PS.
>
>How presumptuous. Maybe Roddick will have a say in all this before its
>over?


Roddick ? Is he playing ?


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 13:28:06
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
Fan wrote:
> Who will hate him more?
> Federer fans?
> Nadal fans?
> Murray fans?
> Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?

Well, I would love it. I think he plays excellent tennis. He is a bit
different from the rest of the Spaniards. His forehand is probably one
of the most elegant on the tour. He has a great (unstable though) serve,
great return and plays smart and controlled. One of the flaws in his
game is his net game which he probably has to improve to win the biggest
matches.

I don't think he will win it though, but if he does he has obviously
beaten both Nadal and Federer (probably) on this surface. And then it is
well deserved of course. What category of fans who would dislike it
most? It probably would be Federer's, because he is the one who is
beaten in the final.

PS.


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 12:44:44
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:28:06 +0100, Petter Solbu
<pettermann1984@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Fan wrote:
>> Who will hate him more?
>> Federer fans?
>> Nadal fans?
>> Murray fans?
>> Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?
>
>Well, I would love it. I think he plays excellent tennis. He is a bit
>different from the rest of the Spaniards. His forehand is probably one
>of the most elegant on the tour. He has a great (unstable though) serve,
>great return and plays smart and controlled. One of the flaws in his
>game is his net game which he probably has to improve to win the biggest
>matches.
>
>I don't think he will win it though, but if he does he has obviously
>beaten both Nadal and Federer (probably) on this surface. And then it is
>well deserved of course. What category of fans who would dislike it
>most? It probably would be Federer's, because he is the one who is
>beaten in the final.
>
>PS.


Hey look, if Verdasco were to beat Rafa in the SF he would be
considered a Spanish "traitor" and they would have to kill him and his
family before dawn.

Reference "The Replacement Killers"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120008/

He knows that.

The only question is does he retire before the match or during it.


   
Date: 28 Jan 2009 17:16:19
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:44:44 GMT, Dave Hazelwood
<the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:28:06 +0100, Petter Solbu
><pettermann1984@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Fan wrote:
>>> Who will hate him more?
>>> Federer fans?
>>> Nadal fans?
>>> Murray fans?
>>> Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?
>>
>>Well, I would love it. I think he plays excellent tennis. He is a bit
>>different from the rest of the Spaniards. His forehand is probably one
>>of the most elegant on the tour. He has a great (unstable though) serve,
>>great return and plays smart and controlled. One of the flaws in his
>>game is his net game which he probably has to improve to win the biggest
>>matches.
>>
>>I don't think he will win it though, but if he does he has obviously
>>beaten both Nadal and Federer (probably) on this surface. And then it is
>>well deserved of course. What category of fans who would dislike it
>>most? It probably would be Federer's, because he is the one who is
>>beaten in the final.
>>
>>PS.
>
>
>Hey look, if Verdasco were to beat Rafa in the SF he would be
>considered a Spanish "traitor" and they would have to kill him and his
>family before dawn.

So Fed wins the final without even playing?


    
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:54:17
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:16:19 +0200, Sakari Lund
<sakari.lund@welho.com > wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:44:44 GMT, Dave Hazelwood
><the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:28:06 +0100, Petter Solbu
>><pettermann1984@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Fan wrote:
>>>> Who will hate him more?
>>>> Federer fans?
>>>> Nadal fans?
>>>> Murray fans?
>>>> Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?
>>>
>>>Well, I would love it. I think he plays excellent tennis. He is a bit
>>>different from the rest of the Spaniards. His forehand is probably one
>>>of the most elegant on the tour. He has a great (unstable though) serve,
>>>great return and plays smart and controlled. One of the flaws in his
>>>game is his net game which he probably has to improve to win the biggest
>>>matches.
>>>
>>>I don't think he will win it though, but if he does he has obviously
>>>beaten both Nadal and Federer (probably) on this surface. And then it is
>>>well deserved of course. What category of fans who would dislike it
>>>most? It probably would be Federer's, because he is the one who is
>>>beaten in the final.
>>>
>>>PS.
>>
>>
>>Hey look, if Verdasco were to beat Rafa in the SF he would be
>>considered a Spanish "traitor" and they would have to kill him and his
>>family before dawn.
>
>So Fed wins the final without even playing?


unfortunately, yes.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 04:18:57
From: Fan
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Jan 28, 1:07=A0pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com >
wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:06:50 -0800 (PST), Fan
>
> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Who will hate him more?
> >Federer fans?
> >Nadal fans?
> >Murray fans?
> >Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?
>
> He's been bought. He's from Spain. Got it ? He will lie down and die
> for Rafa per Uncle Tony's intructions.

lol, I like that :)


  
Date: 28 Jan 2009 12:24:46
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:18:57 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>On Jan 28, 1:07†pm, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:06:50 -0800 (PST), Fan
>>
>> <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Who will hate him more?
>> >Federer fans?
>> >Nadal fans?
>> >Murray fans?
>> >Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?
>>
>> He's been bought. He's from Spain. Got it ? He will lie down and die
>> for Rafa per Uncle Tony's intructions.
>
>lol, I like that :)


It's true. Wait and see.

Moya wasn't up to the job so they brought in a professional hitman.

It is well known that Fernando is also one of Rafa's bitches.


 
Date: 28 Jan 2009 12:07:46
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: What if Verdasco takes it all?
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:06:50 -0800 (PST), Fan
<TurnagainArm@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Who will hate him more?
>Federer fans?
>Nadal fans?
>Murray fans?
>Djokovic fans (if there are any left)?

He's been bought. He's from Spain. Got it ? He will lie down and die
for Rafa per Uncle Tony's intructions.