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Date: 12 Feb 2009 11:48:22
From: number_six
Subject: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?

A - Nads
B - Fed
C - Dmitrov
D - None of the above

If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at RG
years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
elude him?




 
Date: 14 Feb 2009 00:15:41
From: Fan
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 14, 9:11=A0am, moonki...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 14, 2:38=A0am, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Who cares how they do years from now? It is the next encounter that
> > counts. It is always more enjoyable to watch finals when these two
> > super champions go at each other. Their contrasting styles make it
> > very interesting.
> > Give me Federer-Nadal final at the 2008 French, Wimbledon and US and
> > let the better player win.
>
> Please spare us the high-flown rhetoric. Coming from you, it's like a
> rat wearing a silk top hat.

Hey asshole, are you setting yourself up as rst censor?


 
Date: 14 Feb 2009 00:11:14
From:
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 14, 2:38=A0am, Fan <Turnagain...@hotmail.com > wrote:

> Who cares how they do years from now? It is the next encounter that
> counts. It is always more enjoyable to watch finals when these two
> super champions go at each other. Their contrasting styles make it
> very interesting.
> Give me Federer-Nadal final at the 2008 French, Wimbledon and US and
> let the better player win.

Please spare us the high-flown rhetoric. Coming from you, it's like a
rat wearing a silk top hat.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 23:38:06
From: Fan
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 12, 8:48=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?
>
> A - Nads
> B - Fed
> C - Dmitrov
> D - None of the above
>
> If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at RG
> years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
> elude him?

Who cares how they do years from now? It is the next encounter that
counts. It is always more enjoyable to watch finals when these two
super champions go at each other. Their contrasting styles make it
very interesting.
Give me Federer-Nadal final at the 2008 French, Wimbledon and US and
let the better player win.



 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 22:41:50
From:
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 13, 8:52=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com > wrote:

> Yes, quintessential Connors was when he said, after a tough loss to
> Borg, "I'll follow that Swede *** to the ends of the Earth." =A0There
> was a thread awhile ago about "channeling the inner Connors". =A0Fed
> better try it.

Connors was remarkable that way. He hated that Borg retired when he
did. Borg was beating Connors routinely by the late 70s (except at
USO), but Connors never stopped believing that he'd turn it around.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 17:52:43
From: number_six
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 13, 10:55=A0am, undecided <cost...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 13, 11:20=A0am, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 5:06=A0pm, moonki...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 12, 2:48=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?
>
> > > > A - Nads
> > > > B - Fed
> > > > C - Dmitrov
> > > > D - None of the above
>
> > > > If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at=
RG
> > > > years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
> > > > elude him?
>
> > > In purely physical terms, the five year age difference between the tw=
o
> > > means very little now, but if both are active five years from now, it
> > > will mean a lot. A 33-year-old has begun physical decline, while a 28=
-
> > > year-old is still on the plateau that precedes it.
>
> > > Of course, one must take style into account too. Nadal has been able
> > > to bounce back from injuries pretty well so far, but by 28, their
> > > cumulative effect may hurt his game more than Federer's.
>
> > > However, I would bet on Federer being retired five years from now.
> > > Once he slips down to about #5, I can't imagine he'd stick around too
> > > long. I think Nadal will still be playing at 28, but retire by age 30=
.
>
> > The match I can't help but think about is Wimbledon '82. =A0Connors was
> > what, seven years older than McEnroe, Mac had been the better player
> > in 80-81, yet his level dropped a bit, Connors didn't give up, and
> > stole the '82 W title from him. =A0Sure, Mac killed Jimbo in a
> > subsequent W final, but Connors was rewarded for his persistence.
>
> > Connors also beat Lendl in USO finals after being destroyed by Lendl
> > in some regular tournaments.
>
> > Here's the catch -- how much of Connors' psychological makeup can
> > Federer call upon?
>
> > But it does show that if player keeps his game at a high level, he can
> > have another chance at beating a younger rival who appears to have
> > surpassed him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Good point, but I can't imagine Connors balling like Fed did after a
> slam loss. Completely different mental makeup those two.- Hide quoted tex=
t -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, quintessential Connors was when he said, after a tough loss to
Borg, "I'll follow that Swede *** to the ends of the Earth." There
was a thread awhile ago about "channeling the inner Connors". Fed
better try it.

Also remember Becker saying "I intend to make things difficult for Mr.
Sampras." At least those guys went down swinging.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 10:55:05
From: undecided
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 13, 11:20=A0am, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 12, 5:06=A0pm, moonki...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 2:48=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?
>
> > > A - Nads
> > > B - Fed
> > > C - Dmitrov
> > > D - None of the above
>
> > > If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at R=
G
> > > years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
> > > elude him?
>
> > In purely physical terms, the five year age difference between the two
> > means very little now, but if both are active five years from now, it
> > will mean a lot. A 33-year-old has begun physical decline, while a 28-
> > year-old is still on the plateau that precedes it.
>
> > Of course, one must take style into account too. Nadal has been able
> > to bounce back from injuries pretty well so far, but by 28, their
> > cumulative effect may hurt his game more than Federer's.
>
> > However, I would bet on Federer being retired five years from now.
> > Once he slips down to about #5, I can't imagine he'd stick around too
> > long. I think Nadal will still be playing at 28, but retire by age 30.
>
> The match I can't help but think about is Wimbledon '82. =A0Connors was
> what, seven years older than McEnroe, Mac had been the better player
> in 80-81, yet his level dropped a bit, Connors didn't give up, and
> stole the '82 W title from him. =A0Sure, Mac killed Jimbo in a
> subsequent W final, but Connors was rewarded for his persistence.
>
> Connors also beat Lendl in USO finals after being destroyed by Lendl
> in some regular tournaments.
>
> Here's the catch -- how much of Connors' psychological makeup can
> Federer call upon?
>
> But it does show that if player keeps his game at a high level, he can
> have another chance at beating a younger rival who appears to have
> surpassed him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Good point, but I can't imagine Connors balling like Fed did after a
slam loss. Completely different mental makeup those two.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 08:20:05
From: number_six
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 12, 5:06=A0pm, moonki...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 12, 2:48=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?
>
> > A - Nads
> > B - Fed
> > C - Dmitrov
> > D - None of the above
>
> > If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at RG
> > years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
> > elude him?
>
> In purely physical terms, the five year age difference between the two
> means very little now, but if both are active five years from now, it
> will mean a lot. A 33-year-old has begun physical decline, while a 28-
> year-old is still on the plateau that precedes it.
>
> Of course, one must take style into account too. Nadal has been able
> to bounce back from injuries pretty well so far, but by 28, their
> cumulative effect may hurt his game more than Federer's.
>
> However, I would bet on Federer being retired five years from now.
> Once he slips down to about #5, I can't imagine he'd stick around too
> long. I think Nadal will still be playing at 28, but retire by age 30.

The match I can't help but think about is Wimbledon '82. Connors was
what, seven years older than McEnroe, Mac had been the better player
in 80-81, yet his level dropped a bit, Connors didn't give up, and
stole the '82 W title from him. Sure, Mac killed Jimbo in a
subsequent W final, but Connors was rewarded for his persistence.

Connors also beat Lendl in USO finals after being destroyed by Lendl
in some regular tournaments.

Here's the catch -- how much of Connors' psychological makeup can
Federer call upon?

But it does show that if player keeps his game at a high level, he can
have another chance at beating a younger rival who appears to have
surpassed him.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 08:13:26
From: number_six
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 12, 11:59=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Feb 12, 11:48=A0am, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?
>
> > A - Nads
> > B - Fed
> > C - Dmitrov
> > D - None of the above
>
> > If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at RG
> > years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
> > elude him?
>
> I don't think either Fed at 33 or Nadal at 28 will be playing.

One due to mental breakdown, and one due to physical breakdown, or
both physical?


 
Date: 12 Feb 2009 18:19:03
From: number_six
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 12, 2:22=A0pm, Mark <weiss.sl...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 12, 1:48=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?
>
> > A - Nads
> > B - Fed
> > C - Dmitrov
> > D - None of the above
>
> > If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at RG
> > years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
> > elude him?
>
> It's a stupid question. Period.

Please elaborate, if you can set the angry candy aside. Otherwise,
content yourself with the usual RST background radiation.


 
Date: 12 Feb 2009 17:06:45
From:
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 12, 2:48=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?
>
> A - Nads
> B - Fed
> C - Dmitrov
> D - None of the above
>
> If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at RG
> years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
> elude him?

In purely physical terms, the five year age difference between the two
means very little now, but if both are active five years from now, it
will mean a lot. A 33-year-old has begun physical decline, while a 28-
year-old is still on the plateau that precedes it.

Of course, one must take style into account too. Nadal has been able
to bounce back from injuries pretty well so far, but by 28, their
cumulative effect may hurt his game more than Federer's.

However, I would bet on Federer being retired five years from now.
Once he slips down to about #5, I can't imagine he'd stick around too
long. I think Nadal will still be playing at 28, but retire by age 30.


 
Date: 12 Feb 2009 15:11:15
From: Giovanna
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28

Rafa will look like 59


 
Date: 12 Feb 2009 14:22:09
From: Mark
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 12, 1:48=A0pm, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?
>
> A - Nads
> B - Fed
> C - Dmitrov
> D - None of the above
>
> If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at RG
> years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
> elude him?

It's a stupid question. Period.


 
Date: 12 Feb 2009 11:59:54
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: When Fed is 33 and Nadal is 28
On Feb 12, 11:48=A0am, number_six <cyberi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> When Federer is 33 and Nadal is 28, who wins?
>
> A - Nads
> B - Fed
> C - Dmitrov
> D - None of the above
>
> If you answered B, do you think Fed will get a win against Nadal at RG
> years from now, but lose to a young buck and still have the title
> elude him?

I don't think either Fed at 33 or Nadal at 28 will be playing.