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Date: 24 Jan 2009 00:59:20
From: Dr. GroundAxe
Subject: When did beating Safin become a big deal again?
This would be the same Safin that is retiring at the end of the season? The
same Safin with hip problems? Ahh, but his results, they must point to him
being a formidable opponent....err no.

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Date: 23 Jan 2009 17:29:40
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: When did beating Safin become a big deal again?
On Jan 23, 5:19 pm, "Dr. GroundAxe" <ground...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote in message
>
> news:gldq14$1o4p$1@adenine.netfront.net...
>
> > Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
> >> This would be the same Safin that is retiring at the end of the
> >> season? The same Safin with hip problems? Ahh, but his results, they
> >> must point to him being a formidable opponent....err no.
>
> > You can judge a player's form to a large extent independently of his
> > opponent,
> > particularly a player you are very familiar with. In movement, timing,
> > difficulty of shots made, UEs, serve, etc. Federer showed he will be a big
> > handful against anyone he plays.
>
> Bollocks.

Someone sounds bitter about having no acumen for tennis analysis.


 
Date: 24 Jan 2009 12:14:51
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: When did beating Safin become a big deal again?
Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
> This would be the same Safin that is retiring at the end of the
> season? The same Safin with hip problems? Ahh, but his results, they
> must point to him being a formidable opponent....err no.

You can judge a player's form to a large extent independently of his opponent,
particularly a player you are very familiar with. In movement, timing,
difficulty of shots made, UEs, serve, etc. Federer showed he will be a big
handful against anyone he plays.





  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 01:25:31
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: When did beating Safin become a big deal again?

On 23-Jan-2009, "Dr. GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:

> "DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote in message
> news:gldq14$1o4p$1@adenine.netfront.net...
> > Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
> >> This would be the same Safin that is retiring at the end of the
> >> season? The same Safin with hip problems? Ahh, but his results, they
> >> must point to him being a formidable opponent....err no.
> >
> > You can judge a player's form to a large extent independently of his
> > opponent,
> > particularly a player you are very familiar with. In movement, timing,
> > difficulty of shots made, UEs, serve, etc. Federer showed he will be a
> > big
> > handful against anyone he plays.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Bollocks.

Wait a minute, Fed wasn't playing this well most of last year and yet he
still managed to trouble Murray in the US Open, Nadal at Wimbledon, and
everyone but Nadal at the FO. Even if you say that Murray has grown up
since the US Open I wouldn't exactly say Fed-Murray matches have been
one-sided. What exactly are you arguing?


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 01:19:21
From: Dr. GroundAxe
Subject: Re: When did beating Safin become a big deal again?
"DavidW" <no@email.provided > wrote in message
news:gldq14$1o4p$1@adenine.netfront.net...
> Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
>> This would be the same Safin that is retiring at the end of the
>> season? The same Safin with hip problems? Ahh, but his results, they
>> must point to him being a formidable opponent....err no.
>
> You can judge a player's form to a large extent independently of his
> opponent,
> particularly a player you are very familiar with. In movement, timing,
> difficulty of shots made, UEs, serve, etc. Federer showed he will be a big
> handful against anyone he plays.
>
>
>



Bollocks.



   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 01:53:01
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: When did beating Safin become a big deal again?
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:19:21 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
<groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:

>"DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote in message
>news:gldq14$1o4p$1@adenine.netfront.net...
>> Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
>>> This would be the same Safin that is retiring at the end of the
>>> season? The same Safin with hip problems? Ahh, but his results, they
>>> must point to him being a formidable opponent....err no.
>>
>> You can judge a player's form to a large extent independently of his
>> opponent,
>> particularly a player you are very familiar with. In movement, timing,
>> difficulty of shots made, UEs, serve, etc. Federer showed he will be a big
>> handful against anyone he plays.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>Bollocks.

you're a regular sour grape factory.


    
Date: 24 Jan 2009 02:01:09
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: When did beating Safin become a big deal again?

On 23-Jan-2009, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:19:21 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >"DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote in message
> >news:gldq14$1o4p$1@adenine.netfront.net...
> >> Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
> >>> This would be the same Safin that is retiring at the end of the
> >>> season? The same Safin with hip problems? Ahh, but his results, they
> >>> must point to him being a formidable opponent....err no.
> >>
> >> You can judge a player's form to a large extent independently of his
> >> opponent,
> >> particularly a player you are very familiar with. In movement, timing,
> >> difficulty of shots made, UEs, serve, etc. Federer showed he will be a
> >> big
> >> handful against anyone he plays.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >Bollocks.
>
> you're a regular sour grape factory.

Yeah, he needs to put down the cheap wine once in a while...