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Date: 15 Feb 2009 12:06:02
From: wkhedr
Subject: When the end of Nadal's career starts..
he will not decline, he will crash.






 
Date: 15 Feb 2009 18:09:39
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: When the end of Nadal's career starts..
wkhedr wrote:
> he will not decline, he will crash.

Is this your hope?

PS.


  
Date: 15 Feb 2009 12:17:01
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: When the end of Nadal's career starts..
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/front_page/5137228.stm




Fuentes: "I have threatened"
The Spanish doctor discussed reveals: "I have received several phone
calls sgadevoli: the word used was not just death, but the meaning was
very clear"

Fuentes (right) to the microphones to Cadena Ser. Ansa
MILAN, July 7 2006 - A list B? And 'the title of the newspaper El
Mundo yesterday. A list B with athletes, tennis players and
footballers. A private list of the names that have never surfaced in
the Puerto doping linked all'Operaci=F3n. Only the names of Basso,
Ullrich, Heras, Hamilton, Botero, Pantani and 45 other cyclists came
out. Dr. Eufemio Fuentes, the main accused, however, declares that he
has also treated athletes, tennis players, football players. Given
the rank of cyclists, the list B if it exists, this is dynamite.
Fuentes has reported the existence of a "selective filter" that lets
the things of cycling and the other not. Yesterday he reiterated.
For the second consecutive night and spoke into the microphone of the
radio Cadena Ser, from midnight to two in the transmission larguero
El. An apologia of doping.
THREATS - He revealed, however, that he was threatened. He also made
it clear that he had received offers of money to keep the mouth
closed. The names, in fact, not made them. But that threat was?
Death? "Not exactly. The word was not this. But the meaning yes," he
replied.
SAIZ - The judge Antonio Serrano will have to investigate too.
Yesterday felt Manolo Saiz, the team manager of Liberty Seguros (now
Astana), accused for the crime against public health. Saiz, defended
by Carlos Bueren, replied to the judge but not to the fiscal, the
prosecutor, nor in Santiago Lucas, lawyer of Manzano. When he was
arrested by the Guardia Civil, May 23, Saiz were carrying a box, sent
by Ignacio Labarta from Zaragoza to Eufemio Fuentes, with 4 ampoules
dell'ormone prohibited Synacthene. E 'was also questioned about
60mila euro brought with him, on the relationship with the doctors
Fuentes and Merino Batres. Two hours of questions. He stated that
the money was for a meeting in France, with the two doctors were
personal, not professional ...
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH CECCHINI - In the night, however, Fuentes,
spoke of his relationship with Italian doctors: "In the Vuelta in
2001, I helped Casero, who had to doctor Luigi Cecchini, who did the
same with my riders. After many revolutions in Italy there was
collaboration. " Casero thus helped to win the Vuelta and beat
Sevilla, who was the kelma, his team. What gave Casero at the crucial
time trial? A placebo, was the reply. Investigators, however, also
explore this other side to see if the collaboration with doctors from
other countries were aimed at doping. The existence of an
international network has already emerged in the process of Magdeburg,
ended March 20, with the condemnation of "Thomas Springstein to 16
months in prison, for having a minor dopato: appear the names of two
doctors Madrid, Miguel Angel Peraita, and Jos=E9 Luis Merino Batres.
REAL SOCIEDAD - In football, Fuentes said he had done "the
planificaci=F3n physics, with suplementaci=F3n incluida de varios equipos
importantes de Primera Division." Began with the Elche in 1995-96,
"because I asked the brothers Quiles, managers of kelma. He worked
for the Las Palmas in 2000-01. "I also had a team that has touched
the shield. A year later, without me, just is not downgraded," he said
proudly. It would of Real Sociedad, second with 76 points, two from
Real Madrid in 2003, 15 =AA, 46 points the year after. Fuentes did not
want to talk about the recent cases of doping at Nandrolone, which
concern Gurpegi (Athletic Bilbao) and the Brazilian Giovanella
(Celta). Neither made reference to cases of Guardiola (Brescia,
former Barcelona) and Frank de Boer (Barcelona). He confirmed,
however, that it has received an offer from Barcelona and have
refused. He added: "Then did the same offer to Sabino Padilla, the
doctor of Miguel Indurain, who preferred to Athletic Bilbao."
Tennis - The tennis - sports that has 9 players suspended for doping,
with the Argentine Mariano Puerta disqualified for 8 years! - A
French newspaper has claimed that Rafael Nadal, twice king of Roland
Garros, is followed by Fuentes. In addition to the denial of Nadal,
Mercedes Cabreras, Minister of Education and Science, assured: "No
player or Spanish or foreign, is under investigation." For
politicians, there are tennis players, football players or athletes in
the vortex. For Fuentes, who should know, yes. The suspicion of a
pact the devil is there, while Madrid yesterday it has applied
successfully to the Olympic Games of 2016.
sent by our Claudio Gregori



   
Date: 15 Feb 2009 22:13:06
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: When the end of Nadal's career starts..
wkhedr wrote:
> Fuentes: "I have threatened"
> The Spanish doctor discussed reveals: "I have received several phone
> calls sgadevoli: the word used was not just death, but the meaning was
> very clear"

So this is how you define truth? I don't know if I want to laugh or to
cry of this kind of post.

PS.


  
Date: 15 Feb 2009 12:19:39
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: When the end of Nadal's career starts..
My hope is assuring fair play for all players, closing our eyes and choosing
to be blind to sell and make money is the worst thing that ruin our lives.
Every one knows the truth but many of us find ways to argue it and believe
the lies we create for ourselves.


"Petter Solbu" <pettermann1984@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:FJednYLWoKXC0QXURVnzvQA@telenor.com...
> wkhedr wrote:
>> he will not decline, he will crash.
>
> Is this your hope?
>
> PS.




   
Date: 15 Feb 2009 20:57:09
From: Petter Solbu
Subject: Re: When the end of Nadal's career starts..
wkhedr wrote:
> My hope is assuring fair play for all players, closing our eyes and choosing
> to be blind to sell and make money is the worst thing that ruin our lives.
> Every one knows the truth but many of us find ways to argue it and believe
> the lies we create for ourselves.

The truth about what?

PS.